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Sonos, Inc. (SONO)

Q1 2024 Earnings Call· Tue, Feb 6, 2024

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Operator

Operator

At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Sonos First Quarter Fiscal 2024 Conference Call. Please note that this call is being recorded. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to James Baglanis, Head of Investor Relations. You may begin.

James Baglanis

Analyst

Thank you, Briana. Good afternoon, and welcome to Sonos first quarter fiscal 2024 earnings conference call. I’m James Baglanis and with me today are Sonos CEO, Patrick Spence; CFO, Saori Casey; and Chief Legal Officer and Strategy Officer, Eddie Lazarus. For those who joined the call early, today’s hold music is a sampling from our Say It Loud station, which is curated in collaboration with Black at Sonos in recognition of Black History Month. Before I hand it over to Patrick, I would like to remind everyone that today’s discussion will include forward-looking statements regarding future events and our future financial performance. These statements reflect our views as of today only and should not be considered as representing our views as of any subsequent date. These statements are also subject to material risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from expectations reflected in the forward-looking statements. A discussion of these risk factors is fully detailed under the caption Risk Factors in our filings with the SEC. During this call, we will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. For information regarding our non-GAAP financials and a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures, please refer to today’s press release regarding our first quarter fiscal 2024 results posted to the Investor Relations portion of this website. As a reminder, the press release, supplemental earnings presentation and conference call transcript will be available on our Investor Relations website, investors.sonos.com. I would also like to note that for convenience, we have separately posted an investor presentation to our Investor Relations website, which contains certain portions of our supplemental earnings presentation. I will now turn the call over to Patrick.

Patrick Spence

Analyst

Thank you, James, and hello everyone. I’m pleased to report that we kicked off fiscal 2024 with a successful first quarter. We exceeded our expectations by delivering revenue of $612.9 million, a GAAP gross margin of 46.1%, an adjusted EBITDA of $115 million and free cash flow of $269 million. We also delivered on the commitment we made last quarter to vigilantly work down our owned inventory position. This performance sets us up well to meet our previous outlined fiscal 2024 targets of $1.6 billion to $1.7 billion revenue, 45% to 46% GAAP gross margins, and $150 million to $180 million in adjusted EBITDA, while continuing to improve free cash flow conversion relative to last year. These results were hard won as we navigated the cyclical challenges in our categories and a highly promotional environment. As we have discussed in the past, the home theater category has not yet recovered and remains subdued across all of our geographies. This is in part due to a slow market for TV purchases as well as difficult economic conditions in parts of EMEA and APAC. We saw some modestly improved performance in the streaming audio category, though the market remains highly competitive. Despite these conditions, we continued to execute and win. We decided to do something different this holiday season. We opted to run an extended pre-Christmas promotion on select products. This is atypical for us, but we felt it was necessary to meet consumer expectations of discounting throughout the holiday season rather than having the promotions concentrated heavily in the select windows of Black Friday, Cyber Monday. Customers responded in force. We exceeded our own sales expectations and saw market share gains in key categories; all while delivering strong gross margins for the quarter. Specifically, we saw further share gains in U.S.…

Saori Casey

Analyst

Thank you, Patrick. It’s an honor to step in as Chief Financial Officer of a consumer brand as iconic as Sonos. I’ve spent the past two weeks meeting with our leadership across the organization and I’m struck by the caliber of talent here at Sonos, and I’m very energized by the opportunity to work hand in hand with our people to help lead Sonos into the next phase of growth. I look forward to getting to know our analysts and investors in the weeks to come. Now, I’ll pass it over to Eddie to provide more details on our results and our outlook.

Eddie Lazarus

Analyst

Thank you, Saori. Hi everyone. I just wanted to start by saying I am incredibly grateful for the opportunity served as CFO of Sonos during the last 16 months. I’m proud of all that we accomplished and of the hard work the team put in, including in delivering this very strong holiday quarter. It’s already been a great pleasure to work with Saori on a seamless transition as she takes the helm of this deeply talented finance organization. I have no doubt she’ll build upon our success and help lead Sonos into the next phase of growth. In my new role, I look forward to partnering with Saori, Patrick and the rest of our executive leadership team as I dedicate more of my time to crafting the strategies that will position Sonos to succeed over the long term. And of course, I will continue to oversee legal and our strategy to defend our intellectual property and specifically to hold Google accountable for their widespread infringement of our patents. Turning now to the numbers. Q1 revenues were $612.9 million, a year-over-year decline of 8.9% or 10.5% constant currency. On a sequential basis, revenues increased 101%, though conditions in our categories remain challenging. Q1 revenue came in ahead of our initial expectations due to strong customer response to the extended promotions that we ran in the quarter and to a lesser extent, timing of channel fill. We believe that these two factors had the effect of pulling some Q2 sales into Q1. Hence, I would note our overall expectations for revenue in the first half are unchanged from last quarter. I’ll discuss this further when we cover our guidance. Products sold declined 15% year-over-year, which was more than revenue on a percentage basis due to a 7% increase in revenue per product…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Erik Woodring with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead.

Erik Woodring

Analyst

Hey guys. Good afternoon. Congrats on the really good quarter. I had two questions, maybe one for Patrick and one for you, Eddie. Patrick, it's nice to see you obviously talking about gaining share whether that's in the U.S. home theater market or sequentially in some of the streaming markets. Can you maybe just take a step back and give us a bit more detail on kind of the trends you're seeing that are notable either by product, price point or end market? And then – and specifically just – can you just help us understand when you call out partners normal ordering levels in the earnings deck exactly what you mean by that? And then I have a follow-up. Thank you so much.

Patrick Spence

Analyst

Sure. I'll talk about the – what we see from a trend perspective is, and we talked about it a little bit last quarter in terms of how promotional it's been throughout calendar 2023. I think really what we saw in the holiday quarter was our products really standing out and our brand kind of shining through, if you will. And particularly when I think about the streaming audio category, the Era 300 and Era 100 and our strategy of continuing to raise the bar in those existing categories, paid off in terms of winning the share and in fact, helping drive some growth in those categories, which I think is interesting. And again just another reflection of our leadership position in that category. And then in a tough sound bar market continued strength from Arc and Beam in terms of being able to really take leadership spots across all of the markets there. And I think, ultimately consumers see the value – they see the value in the ecosystem. We have the advantage versus our competition of the fact that people are coming back and adding more to their system as well and they're thinking about Sonos as a system and helping power our flywheel. So I think all of those things together have just enabled us to navigate a 2023 where these categories were very challenged. And so we are making sure we put ourselves in that position. And I think to be successful going forward and I think we – as we look at our marketing efforts, as we look at our distribution efforts, I think we feel good that we can continue to compete and win. There's lots of opportunity there, as I talked about, in terms of our share of both the overall audio market and then as well in terms of the number of homes that we're in today. And yes, and so I think at this point we feel good about our ability to continue to execute and win in the face of whatever the market throws at us.

Erik Woodring

Analyst

Okay. That's really helpful. Thank you, Patrick. And then maybe, Eddie, just for you, gross margins in the first quarter kind of did the opposite of how you guided. You talked about them being below the long term – below the annual target and they came in above. Can you maybe just help us understand one, why you outperformed despite the more promotional period year-over-year? And then second, kind of as we think about the full year guide, why we should be expecting maybe a flat-to-slightly worsening trajectory of gross margins this year when 90 days ago, I think it was a bit more of a recovery shape as we look through the year. So just trying to understand how the year might look a little bit different than you thought 90 days ago when it comes to gross margin trajectory? That's it from me. Thanks so much and congrats.

Eddie Lazarus

Analyst

Sure. Well, thank you. So on the gross margin that we did a little bit better on the component costs and the logistics costs than we expected. Those things fluctuate sometimes quite quickly, and it turned out, especially on the shipping side of things that we did better than we thought. And we did have a little bit of an FX tailwind, too. So – while we are always pleased to do better than expected, they were just – it turned out that this time the surprises were a little bit in our favor. As for the rest of the year, things in the world are still quite volatile. We're looking at the Red Sea situation very carefully, which could raise shipping costs again. We're also looking out at what's coming in the second half to see whether – where we think gross margins might land for things that we have upcoming, and so it just penciled out the way it has. But we're delighted that we overperformed in the first quarter. It, I would say de-risks the gross margin guidance from where we stood before the quarter. And fingers crossed, nothing will happen in the interim to disrupt the good trajectory.

Erik Woodring

Analyst

Super. Thanks very much Eddie.

Eddie Lazarus

Analyst

Thanks Erik.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Steve Frankel with Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.

Steve Frankel

Analyst · Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.

Afternoon and congratulations on the performance, Patrick, I wonder if you might give us some color on the larger initial purchase sizes by your new consumers? How much is that driven by them just moving up the product line versus maybe a trend towards people buying more product to the initial bundle?

Patrick Spence

Analyst · Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.

Yes. Thanks Steve. We have been working hard, particularly our DTC team, but as well now with some of our partners on how we get people started the right way with Sonos, which as everybody on this call will know is being able to enjoy multiroom, being able to enjoy home theater and all its glory with surrounds and a sub. And so we've been made a very concerted effort to have more people start in that way, and it's paying off. And so we're going to continue to try and get more people started that way because we know that if we do that, they're happier customers, their NPS is higher, and we also know that their lifetime value is higher. And so that's been a concerted effort and will continue to be a concerted effort even as we think about new categories that we go into, how do we get customers to be seeing the full value of the Sonos ecosystem. So that's an important part of the strategy, and it's paying off in Q1.

Steve Frankel

Analyst · Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.

And then one more, maybe some insight into channel inventories in the installer channel and in European retail.

Eddie Lazarus

Analyst · Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.

We feel very comfortable where we are in both of those channels. On the IS side, all last year we were deleveraging that channel registrations were running significantly ahead of sell in, and we feel like we’ve gotten back to a more balanced place with respect to the IS channel. So, we feel like that’s in good shape going forward. As we said, European retail has been soft, but that softness isn’t based on excessive channel fill. It’s really just the consumer environment there has been subdued.

Steve Frankel

Analyst · Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.

Great. Thank you.

Patrick Spence

Analyst · Rosenblatt. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jason Haas with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Jason Haas

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Hey, good afternoon, and thanks for taking my questions. I’m curious if you could talk about what you think is needed to see a pickup in the industry demand broadly. There’s some expectation that we should inevitably see a pickup in housing with lower rates. So, I’m curious to what extent you think that could potentially help your business and the industry broadly?

Patrick Spence

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Yes. I think, Jason, that’s probably one of those factors that know helps. Ultimately, TV sales have been down as well. So as that picks up at some point, I’m sure that will help. And just general consumer sentiment towards buying goods versus services, interest rates, all of those things. But at the same time, I would also just make sure everybody here is loud and clear that we believe we have opportunity despite these challenges. Right. So, we are definitely making every effort we can to take more and more of the addressable market that’s out there, because there is a lot for us. And even in a more challenged environment, we’ve shown the ability to take more. And that’s something that I think with our marketing efforts and kind of the things that we’re renewing there, some of the distribution agreements I referenced and then the work in the new categories, I actually think we have an opportunity to go and take more. And so we’re very focused on that. And then I think it’s just a nice tailwind as those things come back whenever they do, but we’re staying very focused on the things we can control.

Jason Haas

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

That’s great. And then as a follow up question, I wanted to ask about the cadence of EBITDA through the year. I know you’ve given some good color on it. I was getting this question even before you reported results. It sounds like the cadence hasn’t really changed too much. But basically the question I’ve been getting is just, it seems like it’s going to be a little bit more back half weighted year from an EBITDA perspective versus if we look at the years pre-pandemic. So, I’m curious what’s driving that. I recognize you’ll have the new product introduction, so I’m sure that’s part of it. But any other tailwinds that we should be aware of for the second half of the year?

Eddie Lazarus

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

I would say that it reflects the fact that this year, the percentage of revenue that we’ll get in the first half is a little bit lighter than we typically do because of this significant new product introduction. So if usually the first half would be 55% to 60% of revenue this year, we’re projecting 52%. And that’s because we have this new category, multibillion dollar category we’re going into. And so the EBITDA will follow that. We’re going to have a dip in the second quarter, which is typically our weakest, and then it will rebound for the back half of the year.

Jason Haas

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Got it. That makes sense. Thank you.

Patrick Spence

Analyst · Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Jason.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Jake Norton with Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Jake Norton

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Hey, perfect. Thank you. Of course, there’s a lot of excitement around entering a new product category in the back half of this year. How are you internally thinking about a new product launch into what is potentially a soft consumer and macro environment versus a more typical, traditional, stronger market that you’ve seen in the past?

Patrick Spence

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Well, I think, Jake, when we’re thinking about a new category that is new to us, it’s all opportunity. And so we are approaching it with the kind of energy, excitement and prudence around investments that I think we always do. But I think everybody across the company is super excited to get in there. And I think just like we’ve shown in the categories that we’re the leader in today, I believe we’ll have a great opportunity to take others share and at the same time probably bring some buyers into the category that weren’t even contemplating being buyers this year. So, we’re excited right across the company and we’re aggressively getting ready to launch because we think this is a big long term opportunity.

Jake Norton

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Okay, perfect. And then last one for me, welcoming Saori as CFO, can you just speak to what this organizational change will enable from an operations and maybe even a long term strategic standpoint? Thank you.

Patrick Spence

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

So, yes, Saori is two weeks in at this point picking up the finance team and technology team. And really, I think the thing that we’ve talked a lot about is her expertise in helping drive growth and scale in a sustainable, profitable way with companies in the past like Cisco and Apple. And she knows consumer electronics and the right kind of investment and financial profiles. And so she is going to help us make sure we are investing wisely for the future to drive the kind of sustainable, profitable growth that we’ve talked to in the past. So, I could not be more excited to see her impact on the organization, but it’ll take a little bit more than two weeks.

Jake Norton

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Thanks for the color. I appreciate that. Congrats on the quarter.

Patrick Spence

Analyst · Raymond James. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Jake.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Alex Fuhrman with Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Alex Fuhrman

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Hi guys. Thanks very much for taking my question. Patrick, you mentioned being more promotional during the holidays to meet consumer expectations, given what a lot of your competitors were doing, presumably that’s not going away this upcoming holiday season or the one after that. Does it start to change, how you think about initial prices now that a more promotional holiday environment is starting to become the more new normal?

Patrick Spence

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

If I’ve learned one thing, Alex, it’s that we can’t project what will know next holiday necessarily, right, given some of the ways that these things work. And so this was a pretty unique holiday, I will say. And we were monitoring closely and I was super proud of the way the team adapted and moved with a sense of urgency to kind of do the right thing to make sure that we were meeting the customers where they were in this quarter. But I’m very confident that we have the right level of product investment, innovation and brands kind of leading products that put us in a position where we will continue to deliver the kind of gross margin we’ve talked about and products that customers love, right, and are willing to pay for. And so we have a good strategy when it comes to, I think, the value for the price we provide at a premium level, and we’re going to continue to deliver that. So, I think perhaps 2024 we see the kind of discounts we saw in 2023, but I also believe we can continue to execute and win, just as we did throughout that year with our strategy.

Alex Fuhrman

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Great. That’s really helpful. Thanks very much, Patrick.

Patrick Spence

Analyst · Craig-Hallum Capital Group. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Alex.

Operator

Operator

Your final question comes from Brent Thill with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Brent Thill

Analyst

Patrick. I’m just curious; you talked a little bit about these green shoots you’re starting to see, I mean where are you seeing kind of the biggest excitement and the return to growth? What’s been standing out to you? Kind of ex-out the new category you’re going into. But what’s standing out in the existing categories that’s reigniting now?

Patrick Spence

Analyst

Well, I think our ability to continue to gain share with the products that we have and seeing Era 300 and Era 100 really help drive streaming audio as a category, in the holiday quarter was something that just for me, I think helps us kind of prove out our hypothesis about raising the bar in existing categories. But make no mistake, Brent, we want to be, we believe that given the opportunity in our existing categories, plus the things we’re investing in for the new categories. Our typical growth aspirations are higher for the long term than what we’re seeing right now because of the challenged kind of category growth rates. But we’re going to continue to do everything we can through our product introductions, our distribution, our marketing to continue to compete and win in those existing categories. We know there’ll be tailwinds when spending comes back in those categories, but we are doing everything we can in the meantime to capture more of that, if you will. And then, to your point, we have exciting new categories that we’re entering one in Q3.

Brent Thill

Analyst

Okay. And then I know you mentioned the outlook is on change, but when you think about the new category impact on the numbers for this year, can you just remind us what you’ve embedded at that midpoint at 1.65 [ph].

Eddie Lazarus

Analyst

$100 million in new product introductions this year.

Brent Thill

Analyst

Terrific. Thank you.

Patrick Spence

Analyst

Thanks, Brent.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Seeing no further questions, I will now turn the call back to Sonos CEO Patrick Spence for any closing remarks.

Patrick Spence

Analyst

Thanks, Briana. I just want to hit two things in closing. First, we delivered a successful Q1 in a challenging and highly promotional environment. Our performance in Q1 puts us on track to meet our first half and fiscal 2024 expectations in terms of revenue, gross margin and adjusted EBITDA. Second, we are laser focused on what we can control. We are taking share without compromising on gross margin. We are at the onset of a multiyear product cycle as we harvest the benefits of our investments to enter new categories and launch new products, starting with the one we will be announcing and shipping in Q3. We are expanding our distribution to ensure we meet the customer where they want to shop. We are reinventing our brand marketing and activation to tap into culture and address new audiences. Our commitment to operational excellence means improving our gross margins tightly, managing our expenses to deliver adjusted EBITDA, margin expansion and working down our inventory position to improve our free cash flow conversion. We made great progress this quarter and will look to build upon our success in the quarters and years to come. Thanks for your time today and we look forward to speaking with you again next quarter.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.