Michael Colglazier
Analyst · TD Cowen. Your line is open.
Yeah. I'll talk -- I think Oliver, your question is both on competition and relatedly pricing. It's very difficult to compete with us. There's a huge technology and capital moat around human spaceflight, right? That's why it's, of course, previously only been a few governments that could afford to get there. So really, where SpaceX and governments are sending people further out. The only people doing anything in our competitive set is the Blue Origin company. And I don't have privy to their specific pricing anecdotally from the media, as they seem to have been pricing greater than $1 million as a base. So that's, I'd say, the only real kind of comparative from a competitive standpoint. So then I look internally and in anything that is a luxury or consumer offering, you want to look at the price-value relationship, and the value has to be there to drive price. So we have had -- I think, everybody is tracking with us, when we've had very recent openings, right? We've flown, had openings on some of the flights that we've just done. And when that opening comes up, we have basically sold that opening at a market available price. That's been very close to $1 million. And that's probably in line with what you're also seeing elsewhere and when you can fly kind of right now, that's where the market has shown for something right here. So then the question is, well, how is the value at that price? Because we've flown people that have been waiting for 17 years that were at $200,000, and we've flown people that are closer to $1 million. And I can tell you, having spoken with everyone, the value of what we are creating is so extraordinary that the price part of that equation is kind of diminished or minimized as an impact. So we feel that the value is so high. Our price value is good. We feel great that we're delivering enormous value at these recent prices we've been doing. I noted, I think Doug noted too that while we don't have sales open right now, we do maintain some house seats on our own, if we get a referral from our founders or customers, we can sell a few of those seats at the end of the queue. And we've moved those seats to $600,000, in line with our research pricing. I don't expect when we open up sales going forward to be going lower than that, I think the price-value maintains pressure on the price point more towards the upper angle of that. But that's where we sit right now. And again, I just don't think it's easy for people to come into this market, compete with the amount of upfront technology investment and diligence that has to be done. It's a very complicated endeavor.