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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the Analyst Call to Discuss IHS Q1 Earnings and Proposed Merger with Markit. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Eric Boyer, Vice President of Investor Relations. Sir, you may begin.

Eric Boyer

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

Good morning and thank you for joining us for the discussion of the IHS first quarter earnings and the proposed merger between IHS and Markit. We issued two press releases earlier this morning. First, we issued our Q1 earnings release and second, we issued a release announcing our intent and legal transaction with market. In addition, we posted to our website a presentation with supplemental information on proposed merger. If you do not have a copy of the releases and the supplemental materials, they are available on our website at ihs.com. The supplemental materials are also posted on the Markit website. Some of our comments and discussions on the quarter are based on non-GAAP measures. Our non-GAAP or adjusted numbers exclude stock-based compensation, amortization of acquired intangibles and other items. Our earnings release includes both our GAAP-based income statement and statement of cash flows and reconciliations to the non-GAAP measures discussed during this call. These reconciliation schedules are included in our release and can also be found on the website. The non-GAAP results are a supplement to the GAAP financial statements. IHS believes this non-GAAP presentation and the exclusion of these items is useful in order to focus on what we deem to be a more reliable indicator of ongoing operating performance. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded and webcast and is the copyrighted property of IHS and Markit. Any rebroadcast of this information in whole or in part without the prior written consent of IHS is prohibited. Please keep in mind that the conference call, especially the discussion of our outlook, may contain statements about expected future events that are forward-looking and subject to risks and uncertainties. Factors that could cause actual results to differ and vary materially from expectations can be found in IHS filings with the SEC and on the IHS website. After our prepared remarks, Jerre Stead, IHS Chairman and CEO; Lance Uggla, Markit Chairman and CEO; Todd Hyatt, IHS EVP and Chief Financial Officer; and Jeff Gooch, Markit Chief Financial Officer will be available to take your questions. With that, it is my pleasure to turn the call over to Jerre Stead. Jerre?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Thank you, Eric. Good morning and thank you for joining us as we share our first quarter results and the announcement of our intent to merge with Markit, a leading global provider of financial information services. This combination is transformational for both of our companies and will create an unparalleled global provider of information and analytics, which will provide significant value for our shareholders, our customers and our colleagues. Today, we will go over IHS’ Q1 2016 financial results, then Lance and I will go into the details of the proposed merger. After our prepared remarks, we will take questions. Now for Q1, results were in line with our expectations. The high level financial results in the period include revenue of $548 million, up 7% from Q1 of 2015; adjusted EBITDA margins of 32.7%, representing expansion of 170 basis points year-over-year and benefiting from operating model efficiencies and continued realization of synergies. Adjusted EPS was $1.40, up 10% over the prior year. In terms of our core industry verticals, transportation, which includes our automotive, maritime and trade and aerospace and defense teams, continue to produce very strong organic growth of 10% for the quarter. Resources which includes our energy and chemical teams, continues to experience declining subscription growth due to headwinds within the energy markets. However, as chemicals team continue to perform very well, our overall reported resources organic revenue benefited from strong non-subscription based growth due to the timing of CERAWeek in Q1 versus Q2 in the prior year. CMS total organic revenue growth of 4% continued to experience steady performance. Turning to M&A, in the beginning of February, we closed the acquisition of OPIS, Oil Price Information Services, which we detailed on our Q4 call. With that, I will turn it over the details to Todd.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Peter Appert with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open

Thank you, Jerre. Let’s start by reviewing the financial results for the first quarter. Revenue was $548 million, an increase of 7%. Adjusted EBITDA was $180 million, an increase of 13%, and margin expansion of 170 basis points. And adjusted EPS was $1.40, an increase of 10%. Relative to revenue, we continue to see trends similar to those discussed on the Q4 call. Total revenue growth was 7% and included 3% organic revenue growth, acquisitions of 5% and an FX drag of 2%. Subscription organic growth was 1% and non-subscription organic revenue growth was 14%. Revenue growth benefited by approximately $14 million of revenue from CERAWeek in Q1 this year versus Q2 in the prior year. Normalizing for timing impact of CERAWeek, our non-subs organic revenue growth was negative 3% and our total organic revenue growth was 1%. Looking at segment performance, transportation growth was 14%, which included 10% organic; 5% acquisitive; and negative 1% FX impact. Organic revenue growth was comprised of 10% subscription growth and 9% non-subscription growth. We continue to see very strong growth in our automotive businesses and stable growth in the other transportation businesses. Resources growth was negative 1%, which included negative 2% organic; 3%, acquisitive; and negative 2%, FX. Organic revenue growth was comprised of negative 7% subscription; and non-subscription growth of 28%. Normalizing for the timing impact of CERAWeek, resources non-subs organic revenue growth was negative 23% and total resources organic revenue growth was negative 9%. Resources organic subscription revenue growth was negatively impacted from the earn-out of negative year-over-year subscription bookings we experienced throughout 2015 as well as the Q1 negative sub-based activity. In Q1, on a constant currency basis, our resources organic subscription base, which represents the annualized value of subscription contracts, declined approximately $20 million or about 3% in line…

Jerre Stead

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Thanks, Todd. I was very pleased with our Q1 performance given the energy industry challenges and continue to feel good about our leading assets and market position. CERAWeek strengthened my conviction that the energy industry will be back. The world’s demand for oil by 2019, 2020 and beyond will outstrip current production capacity. IHS will continue to provide the information and insight our customers need to make strategic and operational decisions from the boardroom to the retail front to meet the world’s energy demand. Our non-energy businesses are performing very well due to our operational improvements and new product launches. We are especially pleased with our strong auto business performance, which we believe will continue to produce strong results through market cycles given our focus on both the new and used auto markets. And we continue to drive margin expansion as we have committed through our new business lines, operating structure and through operating efficiencies as well as generating strong free cash flow. Now, I would like to turn to today’s very exciting announcement and welcome to the call my new partner, Markit CEO, Lance Uggla. Markit is a leading provider of information processing and solutions for the financial markets. Over the weekend, both Boards of Directors unanimously approved the merger of equals. This transaction creates an information powerhouse with unrivaled information analytics and talent. We will have leading positions in the energy, financial services and transportation industry, among others. We have deep, senior and non-overlapping customer relationships across corporate, government, consumer and financial services. The rationale for this deal is very clear. By combining companies, we are creating a global highly scaled leader in information, analytics and solutions. This transaction offers immediate financial and strategic benefits, while in turn creating new significant, long-term opportunities for next generation of products.…

Lance Uggla

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Thanks, Jerre and we are both really excited to be here with you today and Jerre as my new partner, I am personally very excited. So before I discuss the strategic and financial rationale for this transaction, I want to take a moment to explain to you why this deal makes sense for Markit and our customers right now. Since I founded the company 13 years ago, our growth has been driven by delivering transparency and helping our customers manage regulatory change and reduce costs. These trends are not going away and in fact are still strong today. Our customers’ demands for unique information, continues to grow. By joining forces with IHS, we will substantively expand our unique content set and distribute them across our combined increased customer bases. Let’s take a look at the strategic and financial rationale of the transaction. First, IHS Markit will be a global leader in information services, delivering mission-critical, unique solutions to our broad customer base in order to improve decision-making. We will combine our datasets and complementary products and use technology to tailor delivery to the needs of our individual customers, allowing easier and more flexible access to information. This will allow us to develop next-generation products and services to meet our customers’ needs improving our competitive positioning. Second, IHS Markit will have a broad base of over 50,000 customers, including over 75% of the Fortune Global 500. These are long, tenured relationships with the senior leaders of a wide range of companies and government. Both our companies pride themselves on working closely with customers to develop products. And these relationships, together with our combined deep expertise, will help power innovation. Thirdly, we see meaningful and achievable cost and revenue synergies that will accrue from this combination. First, from a cost perspective, by…

Jerre Stead

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Thanks, Lance. A great summary. So before we take your questions and I will remind you that this is a 90-minute call today, so there will be time for questions. I also remind you that you should ask one question. And it would be very pleasing if you didn’t do the ABC today. So, let’s recap on why this merger makes immediate strategic sense and also discuss the long-term financial objectives of our company, IHS Markit. The combination will forge an information powerhouse that delivers mission-critical unique data to a broad customer set. The transaction is financially attractive with immediate and medium-term earnings enhancement through synergies and combines two companies with proven track records of delivering consistent, organic and acquisitive growth. We see increased opportunities as Lance just mentioned for our colleagues to grow and develop their careers. Over the long-term, we expect the combination of these two companies to deliver the following: mid single-digit organic revenue growth with significant opportunities to accelerate; adjusted EBITDA margin in the low to mid-40s range; and double-digit adjusted EPS growth and as I said earlier, 20% plus. Overall, the enhanced growth potential for the combined company will lead to significant long-term shareholder value creation. Today’s announcement marks day one of the race to complete all of the necessary steps for these two great companies to merge together. In all my years of business experience, including leading 7 public companies and serving on 35 public company boards, I have never seen a transaction with as much value creation potential as with this merger. I can’t wait to get started and Lance and I will have a great time creating a better company than ever before. With that, I am ready to take the questions. Operator, we are ready to go.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Gary Bisbee with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Gary Bisbee

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Hey, good morning.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Good morning, Gary.

Gary Bisbee

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

So the cost synergies, I think we all understand, I think a lot of people are scratching their heads here just trying to understand what would the fundamental synergies be? You referenced some revenue synergies, but can we just get some more color or examples on why one of the businesses helps the other together from a fundamental perspective outside of cost actions that there is – the deal really makes sense? Thanks.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

No, that’s fine, Gary. Thank you. I will start and have Lance pick up. By far, bigger potential for us is the ability to sell and Lance will give you a couple examples in just a minute, Gary, of the ability to sell the products that Markit has into our customer base and to do the reverse with our products into Markit’s customer base. Keep in mind what we said, we will now be doing business significant business at the C level for over 75% of the Global Fortune 500. I doubt if you will talk or hear from a company that can do that. That gives us an opportunity to sell products that exist today to get the short-term and medium-term benefits from an organic base of revenue increase, more exciting even though is the technology opportunities we have to add new products going forward, but Lance give him a couple of examples.

Lance Uggla

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Okay. No, I think that’s a great question, Gary. And when I was talking to my team, of course, Jerre and I have kept this under wrap since before Christmas. And so of course, when I was talking to my team, what do you think they would say? They go, how is this going to impact us? So I said, well, if I worked in the market index team and all of a sudden I had all this data coming from energy, transportation, chemicals, defense, automotive, economic and country measures that are unparalleled in the marketplace, I look at that and I go, that’s $10 billion, $20 billion, $30 billion, $40 billion, $50 billion of assets under management that need to be benchmarked against new indices and new overlays. That’s long-term growth and short-term low-hanging fruit. If I sat in my private equity valuations team when energy – money from the energy – from the private equity markets is lining up to flow into the energy sector, I would be sitting thinking, I am in the best seat in the house, getting to work with all this new analytics and research from the energy markets to help invest in private debt and private equity. If I sat in our KYC team and I have 3,500 financials that I was trying to get on our KYC platform and I woke up and had 50,000 at Jerre’s corporate and we could walk into C suite of the 75% of the global 500, I would think I have the best job in the world. And I could give you 20 more examples like that. So, this is about revenue. It’s about growth. It’s about opportunity. And the financial lens is damn good. It’s one that we are excited about. And I am sure Todd and Jeff will go through the numbers. But for Jerre and I it’s all about building a future for our company, our customers and our employees and there is nothing to be shy about on that side.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is now open

The biggest thing and then we will go on to the next question that when we met for 2 days offside a couple of weeks ago with our top development people and our top operational executives, the biggest opportunity for us is to pick the top 4 or 5 out of 30 or 40 opportunities to make things happen. So, that’s really the driver here and it’s one that’s going to change the world for all of our customers. Thanks, Gary. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open

Good morning, everyone.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open

Hi, Bill.

Bill Warmington

Analyst · Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open

Just want to say congratulations on the merger. My question is to ask about the how Markit defines subscription revenue. I saw the recurring fixed and recurring variable. I am trying to understand the distinction between that and the way that IHS had traditionally described subscription revenue?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open

That’s great, Bill. As Jeff will – who is the CFO for Markit will respond to that. That’s one of the many things we talked about early. Jeff?

Jeff Gooch

Analyst · Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open

Yes. Thanks, Jerre. You are right – the slide deck definition or differences between the two firms which we’ll work out. But in terms of our number is very simple. 95% of my revenues come from long-term relationships with our customers. To aid transparency, we break that down as we say into two groups. Fixed recurring revenues, I think is – some call it subscription revenue, has a fixed amount of money paid on an annual or quarterly basis for typically 2 or 3 years. Variable recurring revenues, we have a long-term relationship with the customer, but the exact amount of money they are going to pay varies with some other factor. So, it could be that someone is more interested in ETF using one of the Markit iBoxx indices. We get paid based on sequential AUM that goes up and down. It could be you were handing the interest swap business to JP Morgan, the number of trades they do in each given month goes up and down. It could be we are handling the valuation for fixed fund managers of the exact number of positions they have goes up and down. So for that variable business, it’s a long-term relationship. It’s very sticky. The exact quantum does move up and down with other factors.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Bill Warmington with Wells Fargo. Your line is now open

Thanks, Bill. Great question. And as we said, you put the two of us together and it’s almost 85% of our total revenue. For all practical purposes, as Jeff just described, very sticky, so it’s a great step forward. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Paul Ginocchio

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

Thanks. It seems like going forward this gives me lot more focus on product innovation than – or new products than acquisitions, is that the right message that for the next couple of years?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

Great question, Paul. I will start and have Lance pick it up. That was one of the things when Lance and I actually had breakfast in December that we spent a lot of time talking about, because it provides a new scale for us of really outstanding developers on a worldwide basis. And the answer is, yes, Lance pickup with that, because it’s so critical for us.

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

Yes. No, I think when I met Jerre and we started to describe our company, then we really did spend a month over December talking everyday, talking about our cultures, our employees, our customers and really getting to know each other’s business. And at the center and heart of each business are these unique content sets. And when I look at the world we are in today, it is all of our customers, both IHS and Markit’s, which are completely complementary are demanding more content available to them in every way possible from a cloud, from a feed, from a FTP feed, from a website. And so for us, innovation will come by delivering on the customers the existing products that we are growing with them today, developing new products, which means combining the expertise of the two companies, but finally using a little bit of that $1 billion of approximate free cash flow to reinvest in technology transformation over the next few years to have a platform that can deliver our content at unique, highly demanded content when, how, where our customers want it in the right format. So, we see innovation coming both ways: product design and delivery.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

Thanks. And just to pick up on that point, Lance. We have a headline number here of $1 billion buyback in 2017 and $1 billion buyback in 2018. So obviously, the shareholder return value here is significant, but it’s not all about shareholder return from a capital structure perspective. This is a business that will continue to have capital structure flexibility. And as we get to close, we will actually have a leverage level below the 3x that the combined companies are at right now. So, even as we are buying back $2 billion of shares over the next couple of years, we still retain capital structure flexibility to invest in the business and make strategic acquisitions. So, very important point.

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

Right. And that’s one thing Jerre and I spoke about with Todd and Jeff as we are putting this together. We have got a lot of focus on integration. So, you will see us quiet on the acquisition front. We will use our cash flows, Todd has described. And we see that combination will drive all the right shareholder returns and situate us very well for the future. Next question.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

Next question, yes.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Peter Appert with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open.

Peter Appert

Analyst · Peter Appert with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open

Thanks. Good morning. Jerre, you are killing me with this one question thing.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Peter Appert with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open

If you are really good, Peter, you will be on the top of the line on the way back.

Peter Appert

Analyst · Peter Appert with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open

Okay, thanks. I am wondering if you could just get into the tax issues and combining the companies, is there going to be any regulatory pushback in terms of perception of this as tax inversion strategy driven?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Peter Appert with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open

For sure, not. I will have Todd pick up on that, but great question, Peter and thanks for asking that. The answer is no, Todd gives the...

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Peter Appert with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open

Yes, Peter, this is a merger of equals. I mean, we have adopted some tax structure that we think that is the most appropriate for the combined company, certainly applies with all of the applicable tax rules and we don’t see this transaction as being implicated by the U.S. anti-inversion rules.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Peter Appert with Piper Jaffray. Your line is now open

Thanks Peter. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. Your line is now open.

Andrew Steinerman

Analyst · Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. Your line is now open

Hi, gentlemen. I wanted to ask about the mid-teens accretion for EPS in 2018, how much revenue synergies are assumed in that number and what’s the share count assumption?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. Your line is now open

Okay, Andrew, Todd will start, Jeff will pickup. And if we don’t answer it, Lance and I are pretty good technically, so…

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. Your line is now open

Well, I will give you a construct, how about that?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. Your line is now open

Yes.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. Your line is now open

So what we have said Andrew is just to make things simple, we have said at least a 20% adjusted EPS growth in 2017. And you can take the market consensus number and assume that growing north of 20% on that basis. For IHS, you can take the midpoint of our guidance, convert it into a market EPS number at the exchange rate and you can assume that we will be growing north of 20% on that basis. So, we have laid it out pretty clearly to make it – so that you would clear line of site. From a share count perspective, once again, you can take IHS shares, multiply it by the 3.5566. You can take the market shares out, add that to the market share count, certainly, you need to take account of market options and I think market provides a schedule that very clearly lays out options and strike price so you can do the Treasury method on that, and then you can layer on our buyback assumption. As far as stock-based comp, IHS has talked about moving the stock-based comp as a percent of total shares outstanding. This year, we moved it down to 1.25%. We talked about a target of moving that to 1% and we would expect that to continue with the combined companies. I think those give you all the pieces, Andrew, to walk through. Jerre, anything you want to add?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Andrew Steinerman with JPMorgan. Your line is now open

No, I think that’s it. Thanks. But I do want to emphasize what Todd said at the end, we spent a lot of time talking about it in our two companies. Lance and I agreed that we will target 1% in the future going forward. So, this is going to work out great for everybody. So thank you, Andrew. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sara Gubins with Bank of America. Your line is now open.

Sara Gubins

Analyst · Sara Gubins with Bank of America. Your line is now open

Hi, thanks. Good morning. Could you talk about how you plan to fund the $1 billion of share repurchase? Would you plan to take on more debt to do that given that it looks like free cash flow would be about, you were saying you were getting to a target of about $900 million a year?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Sara Gubins with Bank of America. Your line is now open

Well, yes.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Sara Gubins with Bank of America. Your line is now open

Yes.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Sara Gubins with Bank of America. Your line is now open

In year one.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Sara Gubins with Bank of America. Your line is now open

A couple of things. As of today, on a bank basis, the leverage ratio is 3x for the combined company. We will see some de-levering occur between the signing and the closing of the transaction. We also create capacity with EBITDA growth and this business will grow EBITDA. So, as we grow EBITDA and we look at the type of EBITDA growth that we get to with the synergies that we have talked about, we will see EBITDA then supporting additional capacity on an annual basis of some $300 million to $400 million. So, you have the free cash flow, you also have the capacity that’s created by the EBITDA growth. So with $1 billion buyback, this model will actually de-lever and we will continue to have capacity well below the 3x gross leverage ratio. Jeff, anything?

Jeff Gooch

Analyst · Sara Gubins with Bank of America. Your line is now open

Yes. I think you hit the main points there, Todd. I think just to kind of reiterate some of the key things here. Yes, we are looking to run the company on 2x to 3x gross leverage basis. We can spike up the big deals if we need to. And obviously, the first couple of years, we are going to focus on that buyback program. But as Todd said, that will leave us into a fantastic position in the 2 years time. We have been returning cash to shareholders, but also we have a balance sheet that gives us lot of flexibility around future M&A activity and further buybacks beyond that point. So yes, I think we end up in the best of both worlds, where our choice is still open. As you know, Sara, we are very focused on Markit on smart use of capital, making sure we get the right returns as we deploy our capital and that’s not going to change.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Sara Gubins with Bank of America. Your line is now open

Yes, this deal is a big step up for all of us. Thanks, Sara.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Andrew Jeffrey with SunTrust. Your line is now open.

Andrew Jeffrey

Analyst · Andrew Jeffrey with SunTrust. Your line is now open

Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking the question. Jerre, I look at IHS business and think about the barriers and pricing power and competitive position, it’s pretty well distinguished I think. By contrast, I wonder if you could talk a little bit about Markit. It’s – the company operates in a pretty competitive environment that has some sizable, formidable competitors. I just wonder about the compare contrast and the competitive positioning and pricing power and barriers between the two companies?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Andrew Jeffrey with SunTrust. Your line is now open

Great question and I will have Lance pick up on that. As we look at all of that, Lance started this company 2003, done in our view an incredible job of meeting customer needs that were not being met by historical competitors and continues to. Lance?

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Andrew Jeffrey with SunTrust. Your line is now open

Yes, good. Thanks, Jerre and hi, Andrew. So I guess the financial information services space, it is interesting, okay? It’s a big addressable market with large spending patterns that cross all financial market participants, insurance companies, hedge funds, asset managers, banks, the like. So there’s a large addressable market, and that extends into the corporate space. So the first word, I think, really important is, how these customer bases extend into each other. So that’s a great opportunity set. The place that Markit lies within the financial information services space, that gave us the ability to creep up, I think, on our competitors and take the $5.5 billion of market cap we have is that we focused on unique content, must-have content for decision-making. That’s exactly what it IHS does, must-have content, leveraging the news and analytics and research to deliver to their customers tools to make business decisions. Now, those customers’ decisions are generally about strategy, approach to their business decisions or their approach to their forward strategies. In the financial market, a lot of times, content is used for making the decision on a trading decision, pricing risk, something a little bit, a bit more short term, value an asset, buying an asset or selling an asset, so slightly different, but both rely on the same thing: unique content sets. So the one thing that we saw that Markit positioned really well is to have unique content with big moats that’s highly defensible and the leverage those into each of these services around there. So how has Markit grown and defended that? We took our strong OTC dataset, and we leveraged it into valuation. We took our strong position in the fixed income credit space and we leveraged it into a leading index franchise. We took our trusted partnerships and relationships, and we leveraged those into implementation of regulation and built out services like the Know Your Customer or Know Your Third Party. These get extended very naturally to each other’s content get each other’s customer set. And IHS’ data and information comes into the market customers very, very easily. And I think the competitive landscape has just changed. This is an information powerhouse together that is unparalleled. There really isn’t another of our size that has the reach and breadth of customers. And I can tell you Jerre and I, we had to slow our management teams down in terms of the opportunities lining up on the page. So, I think we pivoted ourselves us out of financial information and services as Markit and we are now information and services to the financial energy, transportation sectors. That’s one pivot. And I think for IHS what’s great is we have added a set of customers to leverage the content and take on the likes of those competitors that have been selling into the financial markets and there is a new game in town when we are together.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Andrew Jeffrey with SunTrust. Your line is now open

And it’s a great new game. Just one example is the people that have followed IHS, we talked about Vantage and how we have introduced it in the last 1.5 years. That’s a direct straight into financial community that we have a new opportunity to do like we never did before. We could go on and on with those. Thanks, Andrew. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Your line is now open.

Manav Patnaik

Analyst · Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Your line is now open

Yes, good morning gentlemen. So I think I have known you guys for a while and I see the cultural fit and the cost synergies sounds fine. I am trying to understand more so I think from IHS’ perspective, Jerre, you guys have always talked about you might get into new verticals, but it sounded like financial market data would be the last of them for you to get into. And Lance, from Markit’s perspective, I think you definitely alluded to the fact that you needed scale, but there was plenty of market data assets out there to give you scale. And I know you have gone through some of the examples, so maybe you can give us some background on when this thought came into your mind? I think you mentioned something about Christmas of last year, so was it just 3 months ago that you guys sat down and talked through this or maybe can you give us some context of how long you have had this vision in your mind?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Your line is now open

Happy. Thank you, Manav. By the way, to my knowledge, I never remember saying I wasn’t going to invest or partner in the future in this part of the world. If you think about what we have been doing with the example I just gave you, Vantage, pretty straightforward. So, let me just make a couple of comments that Lance and I first started talking with each other when Lance was a still a private company preparing to go public. And I was fascinated by what he was doing, so impressed with what he had found as an attack mechanism to a huge market growing quickly. So stayed close, talked to him. I actually talked to him when he was doing his IPO, stayed in close view of the great work he was doing. We met, as we said, in December for a breakfast and then both spent our 2-week holidays on the phone about 80% of the time. So, when we have got done with holiday, we were pretty square on how we are going to go. I am very proud, just quick comment, Lance and I are very proud of what we did. I mean, you think about, we set a stake in the ground of announcing on March 21, less than 2 months ago, had an incredible job done by our team and our advisers. And where we are sitting today, I think is the best and I hesitate to use this word, but I will for starters, the best cross-selling opportunity I have ever seen and that’s where we will start from. And then Lance, pickup on Manav’s piece to you?

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Your line is now open

Okay. Manav thanks for all your enthusiasm and support for us. We know you know us, and Jerre and I are – I couldn’t ask for a better person to get to work with and learn from. So, that’s part of what makes the transaction works is when two people come together and they want to be together. I did not need to do this deal nor did Jerre. We are doing it because we want to and we wanted to once we started to analyze this combination. And really, as Jerre said, if we analyze IHS content, unique content needed by our customers, my customers are all the asset managers, hedge funds and banks are all participating in automotive, energy, chemical and financial products. And they need information and content to make trading decisions, business decisions, investment decision and that’s the power of this first bit is the content and that cross-sell. The second bit it’s taken me a decade to get 3,500 trusted relationships in finance and it’s taken IHS 60 years to have 50,000 corporate relationships. Together, IHS Markit now has all of those relationships. And when you start looking at the products that we have and thinking about that cross-sell, I think you can see that the production of organic growth just became a lot easier. So, yes, you can say financials and energy doesn’t sound that interesting, but we don’t even look at it as financial and energy. We look at it as world leading content needed by corporate, government consumers financial market participants with world leading customer set, the best customers in the world at C suite level that between Jerre and I and our teams we know and employees together. When we brought our teams together, it was the excitement in the room for the opportunity in the future was substantive. So, I feel like I woke up in Aladdin’s cave and I know Jerre feels the same way.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Your line is now open

Right.

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Your line is now open

So we have got a lot to do and we are going to do it. We are both executors. We have got great teams around us. And I don’t think we are worried about a lot except getting out there, selling the story and getting back to work.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Manav Patnaik with Barclays. Your line is now open

Thanks, Manav. That’s great. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel. Your line is now open.

Shlomo Rosenbaum

Analyst · Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel. Your line is now open

Hi, good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Hey, I wanted to focus, maybe this is for Todd, a little bit more on the free cash flow potential of the business. You’ve got as IHS standalone you were at kind of targeting mid-60s%. If I look at it, you are merging with a company with lower leverage and lower tax rate. And I am actually a little bit surprised that the free cash flow conversion on Markit for last year, I would have thought it was a little bit higher. Maybe you could just talk a little bit about the opportunity to improve the free cash flow conversion of the combined businesses given some of the backdrop that we just discussed?

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel. Your line is now open

Well, I think when we look at the combination certainly the free cash flow on an absolute basis will increase from the synergies that we have talked about in terms of revenue and expense. We will see some cash benefit in terms of I think a better cost structure from a borrowing perspective. I think this is going to be a better credit, a stronger credit. And so we certainly believe that we can continue to maintain a good, strong cost of capital position. From a tax perspective, we have seen adjusted tax rate of the combined companies of the low 20s to mid 20s. So, I think we will see some benefit from there as well. So, I think when you take it all together, we see an ability to actually elevate the cash conversion on a going forward basis. I mean, Jeff, anything you would add to that?

Jeff Gooch

Analyst · Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel. Your line is now open

Yes. I can say from a Markit perspective, we have also been very focused over the last 12, 18 months in improving cash flow. You heard in our earnings release a few weeks ago that we improved free cash flow generation 17% last year year-on-year. And if you remember, we had a $45 million class-action settlement. So, without that, we do have a very substantial increase in free cash generation. So, I know Todd is equally passionate about cash as I am in my team. So together, I think we can do a great job in getting that cash flow conversion number up a little bit.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Shlomo Rosenbaum with Stifel. Your line is now open

Great answers, guys. Thanks. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Andre Benjamin with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open.

Andre Benjamin

Analyst · Andre Benjamin with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open

Thanks. Good morning.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Andre Benjamin with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open

Good morning, Andre.

Andre Benjamin

Analyst · Andre Benjamin with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open

I was wondering if you would be able to share the numbers behind how much of your revenue overlaps with the same customers, any insight to what industries those are primarily concentrated in and where you see the strongest near-term opportunities that the customer will be on that?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Andre Benjamin with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open

Thanks. That’s a great question. The answer is almost none. That’s what makes this so exciting, the ability to, as Lance has been such a great job of describing to move products both ways sets us up as clean as it can be. The other thing that’s so important like Lance said is it gives us C level capacity of relationships with at least 75%, up to 80% of the global Fortune 500. It’s just as good as it gets.

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Andre Benjamin with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open

And maybe I can add to that, it was quite funny I was in the Geneva last week and I was at an energy company. Of course, Markit has some energy relationships, commodities trading firms that need some of our solutions. But a big piece of our growth, one of our top 10 products globally is enterprise data management and that’s a piece of technology that sells for between $200,000 to $1 million per year for an installation of software and generally, we have been selling it 140 of the world’s leading financial asset managers, with trillions of assets across them, use our technology to manage the data flow that comes into their firms and then to apply those to their accounting systems, risk systems, regulatory reporting, forward reporting to create the golden copy of data inside the firm. So, here I am inside a commodities company in Geneva. I have never been there before. Of course, I am heading in, I am seeing a CTO and a CIO and I was feeling like, God, I don’t know a lot about this company at all. I picked up the phone to Jerre. I told where I was going he said, say hi to the CEO and he is the personal friend of mine and it just – it clicks over and over like that for us where our combined relationships are going to allow us to deliver solutions, deliver content, build relationships and drive long-term organic growth. That’s what this combination is about. Our employees are excited. We are excited. Our customers will be excited. And when you guys figure out the story, you are going to be excited as well and it’s – this is a good one. So, let’s grab the next question.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Andre Benjamin with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open

Yes, it’s as good at it gets. Next question, please.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Joseph Foresi with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open.

Joseph Foresi

Analyst · Joseph Foresi with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open

Hi. This is a question for Jerre. Jerre, I was wondering if you spoke with anyone else sort of strategic alternatives? And how much, if anything, did the impact of the recent oil prices and some of that’s impact in the business have to do with making this decision?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Joseph Foresi with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open

No, that’s good question. Thank you. Zero from an oil standpoint. We have been crystal clear where we are at. This is the first time in my career of 221 quarterly calls that I haven’t had any questions or actually good comments about what a good quarter we delivered. So, I will forget that for today, but it’s very consistent with what we said we were going to do, so it has zero impact. As you heard when I talked about this morning, oil is going to come back and in fact by the third quarter or early 2019, there will be a shortage again. And in fact, your number of where it will be and we will be back in great business. I will say that over the years, if you go back to 2009, I said that our commitment to our shareholders over time was to reduce the 51% of our revenue of energy down, and actually, we did. We are at about 33% now with gas and oil and this will get us down to 27%, 28%, which is a good thing. And when we look at the balance, actually, if you look at the anti-cyclical pieces of our businesses together, it really plays almost in any up or down economically on a global basis. So, that’s very positive. And we have looked towards that for years. The answer to your first part of the question was I didn’t talk to anybody else. This was – we are always looking at acquisitions as you know. And in fact, while we were busy, Lance and I were busy talking we were closing two important acquisitions for our company. So this one was I think a deal made in heaven to be straightforward with it, because it gives us the opportunity to do something nobody has ever done for our customers going forward. So, the answer was nobody else. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Anj Singh with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open.

Anj Singh

Analyst · Anj Singh with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. I have a multiple part question on the synergies.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Anj Singh with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open

No, no, I said no ABC, so make it a long A.

Anj Singh

Analyst · Anj Singh with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open

Okay, I will try to make it a long A. Could you help us slice up how much of that $100 million revenue synergy is coming from Markit solutions into IHS customers, then how much from IHS solutions to Markit customers? And then if you could just slice up what you are assuming to accomplish in the separate years for the cost synergies, it seems like you have got an incremental $60 million in ‘18 over ‘17, just trying to get a sense of what’s driving that? Thanks.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Anj Singh with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open

Let’s work backwards, thanks. That was a good job. Jeff, you want to give just the answer on the cost synergies?

Jeff Gooch

Analyst · Anj Singh with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open

Yes. So, I think, as Jerre or Lance mentioned in their earlier comments, in terms of the cost synergies, we have about $125 million we are targeting at the moment. We expect to get rid of those. As we break those over the 3 years, we think we will in a run-rate basis of $35 million in year 1, $95 million in year 2, then bring up to $425 million in year 3. As Lance mentioned here, from a business perspective, there is not a lot of overlap, which is one of the fantastic things about this field. We believe from an administrative perspective there are things that we can do to bring cost together. And also both firms have had aspirations to do things in terms of lower cost, more efficient locations and we will continue to work on that strategy. So from a cost perspective, Jerre, that’s really the story.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Anj Singh with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open

Thanks, Jeff. Okay, Lance. This is great question. And where the revenue is coming from, the $100 million?

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Anj Singh with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open

Yes. Well, so we did a lot of detailed work on the revenue side building up our models, but the $100 million for us that we are committing in the first 3 years, this is our low hanging fruit. It doesn’t include any of our transformative, bigger things that we will work on and we see providing long-term growth, but if you really want to take it down to what’s easy to do? What can people get off the ground running immediately? So, Markit has nearly $100 billion of AUM against its indices built up over the last several years. So, we are an active player in the index market. Passive investment, as you know, is increasing. In equities, it’s about 3.5% of the market. But in fixed income, it’s less than 1%. I think it’s a 0.25%. So, passive investment strategies are growing. Markit’s position, but the way you make money in the index space is having unique content. And Markit’s unique content is generally around our credit market expertise. Now, our unique content as IHS Markit is across multiple content sets, energy, automotive, defense, aerospace, chemicals, all of economic and country risk, political risk. These are all very interesting what you would call index overlays. So, that’s going to easily drive a 1% organic growth as a kind of a low hanging fruit that we will go after over the next 3 years. Second one that we see is very low hanging fruit. IHS has created some great products that they already sell into the finance area. But guess what, they only have 25 salespeople selling into finance. Now, we have ’ve got several hundred sales people selling into finance and we are going to sell IHS Vantage, Mint, global view and the products of IHS that are…

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Anj Singh with Credit Suisse. Your line is now open

Thanks, Lance and that’s great question. The way I would think about it is, we both are aware our whole companies are that we don’t usually get full credit for the upfront synergies on revenue. We will demonstrate that so you clearly and consistently, including showing you good examples that Lance just gave you. So, he described it perfectly. That’s just the opening bells. Thank you. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open.

Jeff Silber

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Thanks so much. Can you give us an indication about the specific milestones that are needed to get this deal closed and how those will be communicated to shareholders and investors? Thanks so much.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Yes. Todd, you start with that and I will pick up on it, too.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Well, the primary approvals will be regulatory and shareholder vote. And regulatory, we will file the necessary regulatory documents over the next several weeks. And we need regulatory approval, I believe in the U.S., Germany and Russia. We don’t anticipate significant challenges, because there really is very little overlap in these companies. But from a shareholder approval perspective, really, the long pole in the tent will be to get the proxy and get through the SEC review process on that. It’s always hard to predict whether or not there will be comments or not, but we think if we lay out timeline and look at if things go reasonably well, we would hope that we would be in a position to close this transaction in the Q3, Q4 timeframe. I mean anything you want to add there?

Jeff Gooch

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

No, I think the only thing about sort of merger logistics just to make it clear is that as a result of this combination, we will be moving to U.S. GAAP at the moment.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Yes.

Jeff Gooch

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

IFRA filer. We are also a foreign private issuer and in the current U.S. distinct rules.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Yes.

Jeff Gooch

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

The intention is to run this as a standard U.S. GAAP, domestic listings we research for that.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

Thanks for bringing that up. So, the reporting basis will be an IHS reporting basis. As Jeff said, we will convert Markit to U.S. GAAP. Year end will continue to be 11/30. And then from a balance sheet perspective, effectively, Markit comes on to the IHS balance sheet via purchase accounting. So, that’s how to think about it from that perspective.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Jeff Silber with BMO Capital Markets. Your line is now open

We will put on both websites decks that we will be using as we visit investors. And in that deck is a pretty complete – will be a pretty complete step by step of what we have got accomplished. And as I said, this is – we are in a race now. We want to get this done, because the quicker we get it done, the better for our customers, the better for our shareholders and the better for our colleagues. Thanks for the question. Next?

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Your line is now open.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Your line is now open

Ashwin? Okay, let’s go to the next question…

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Your line is now open

Sorry, I was on mute. Hello. I beat the buzzer there.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Your line is now open

You do it all the time, Ashwin. So, it’s okay.

Ashwin Shirvaikar

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Your line is now open

The question was on revenue synergies and cross-sell. So the vision I can understand, but it seems like synergies rely on a lot on products and services potentially not yet developed. In other words, this is about creating markets not just about tapping existing ones. So, is that accurate? Can you then describe the investments needed to get to these projects, to get these projects going and also tell me how each of your businesses perform on an organic basis during the last downturn?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Your line is now open

Fine. Great question. Go ahead.

Jeff Gooch

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Your line is now open

So, it’s Jeff, why don’t I take that one, Ashwin? I think that $100 million of revenue synergies over the early years of this deal, that is really around cross-selling slightly modifying existing product. That’s not about build anything new. We have very basic things there are enormous opportunities in the first 6 to 9 months of the deal. I mean a couple of which Lance has already mentioned we already have tax solutions which are used by some of the S&P 500, which Markit sells today. We have no sales force or reach to get to the other potential customers. That is very easily fixed through this combination. We have fantastic, unique datasets which IHS owns, which are enormously valuable to financial institutions. Historically, they have not been packaged in a way that’s financial market friendly. They have been packaged with a corporate engineering customer base. Some great work happened in the last couple of years with Vanguard to change that situation. Then the combination of that delivery tool without relationships means we can rapidly accelerate the growth of putting those products in. The final thing, which Lance mentioned here of the KYC, KY3P, we always talk about those things anyway as you know. But in the index business, the whole business index today is smart meter, index overlays finding unique perspectives on markets to make those indexes more effective. We have fantastic technology to do that already. What we need today to receive it as somebody else is doing from this deal very quickly. So, this is not about building fantastic new products, I am sure we are going to do that, I am sure in future earnings calls, we’ll be talking about those kind of things. This day one stuff is real basic blocking and tackling of cross-sell, small modifications to products we think very achievable.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Ashwin Shirvaikar with Citi. Your line is now open

Very well said, Jeff. Thank you. Thanks, Ashwin. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Vincent Hung with Autonomous. Your line is now open.

Vincent Hung

Analyst · Vincent Hung with Autonomous. Your line is now open

Hi, good morning.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Vincent Hung with Autonomous. Your line is now open

Good morning.

Vincent Hung

Analyst · Vincent Hung with Autonomous. Your line is now open

So maybe I missed this, but is there a break fee for the transaction?

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Vincent Hung with Autonomous. Your line is now open

Absolutely, there is a break fee, 3.5%. And you will see that in the publicized details. Thank you. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open.

Toni Kaplan

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

Good morning.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

Good morning, Toni. How are you?

Toni Kaplan

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

Okay. Jerre, congratulations, this is a very creative way to diversify away from energy.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

It’s just a great step of being two wonderful companies together, Toni.

Toni Kaplan

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

That, too. Can you just give a little bit more color on why an acquisition was the right move not just partnering and creating indices? And Jeff or Todd, if you could just give us the pro forma EBITDA margin on a GAAP basis for ‘15, if you have it? Thanks.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

You want to pick that up, Todd, please? Thanks, Toni.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

On an adjusted GAAP basis, the pro forma EBITDA margin is 37. On a GAAP basis, I will need to take a minute or two to calculate it. So, I will get back to you at the end of this as we cycle through a couple of calls.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

And the first part of your question, Toni, about why did we do a merger of equals, because the opportunities this gives us for scale far exceed anything we would ever find on either side of our companies if we were doing an acquisition. This one gives us scale in every way. I have said and we have talked about it, but if you think about – I have not – I said I have never seen one like this. Remember, there is three 20s here, 20% plus accretion, 20% plus EPS growth and 20% or thereabouts of share buyback. That’s about as good as it ever gets. So, I would hope today, among other things, we recognize that remember that 20, 20, 20 – and that’s a rock solid numbers that we are going to deliver. Thanks, Toni. Next question.

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

And Toni, in the back of the deck, we have the reconciliation to adjusted EBITDA for both companies, so for you to do the calculation.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

Yes and that deck is on both websites?

Todd Hyatt

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

Yes, on both websites.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Toni Kaplan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open

Thanks, Toni. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jeff Meuler with Robert W. Baird. Your line is now open.

Jeff Meuler

Analyst · Jeff Meuler with Robert W. Baird. Your line is now open

Thank you. I guess a clarifying question. What is the baseline EPS figure that you are using that you are building the 20% growth in 2017 and mid-teens accretion in 2018 off of, i.e. is it Markit’s current estimate? Is it Markit’s current estimates on a GAAP basis? And then the growth rates are those all-in including underlying growth, cost synergies, revenue synergies, tax synergies, buyback, etcetera? Thank you.

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Jeff Meuler with Robert W. Baird. Your line is now open

Great question. Yes, the underlying number for IHS that we are building this 20% target, 20% plus target is the midpoint of our guidance. So, if you take the IHS guidance of $6.15 and convert for the exchange rate, the $1.73 base that we are building that target, that 20% growth target. For Markit, where we are using consensus, which is $1.52, so Markit is lower than IHS. And obviously, if IHS will be above the 20%, so Markit will be well above that. And what was the -- I am sorry, what was the second part of the question.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Jeff Meuler with Robert W. Baird. Your line is now open

That was it. Thanks. Next question.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open.

Paul Ginocchio

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

That was my exact question. Thank you.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

Okay. I think that ends the questions. I would just want to say on behalf of all of us, thank you very much for the attention. We look forward to getting this done as quickly as we can and delivering as we said. I have never looked forward to anything more than what Lance and I are thinking about today, which is go, go, go, because this is a good one. Lance, last words?

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

I think you covered it all. And as my new partner, friend, colleague and boss, I am looking forward to all of it and...

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

That will work.

Lance Uggla

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

You got all of it. Thank you.

Jerre Stead

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

Thank you all very much.

Eric Boyer

Analyst · Paul Ginocchio with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today’s conference. This does conclude the program and you may all disconnect. Everyone, have a great day.