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Sprout Social, Inc. (SPT)

Q4 2020 Earnings Call· Tue, Feb 23, 2021

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to the Sprout Social's Fourth Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today, to Mr. Jason Rechel, Head of Investor Relations. Thank you. Please go ahead.

Jason Rechel

Analyst

Thank you, operator and welcome to Sprout Social's fourth quarter 2020 earnings call. We will be discussing the results announced in our press release issued after the market closed today and have also released an update investor presentation which can be found our website. With me are Sprout Social's CEO, Justyn Howard; CFO, Joe Del Preto; and President, Ryan Barretto. Today's call will contain forward-looking statements, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements include statements concerning financial and business trends, our expected future business and financial performance and financial condition, our guidance for the first quarter of 2021 and the full year 2021 and can be identified by words such as expect, anticipate, intend, plan, believe, seek or will. These statements reflect our views as of today only, should not be relied upon as representing our views at any subsequent date and we do not undertake any duty to update these statements. Forward-looking statements address matters that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For a discussion of the risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2019 filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission, our quarterly report on Form 10-Q and our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended December 31st, 2020 to be filed with the SEC as well as our other filings with the SEC. During the call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures, which are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. A reconciliation of each of these non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our earnings press release, which has been furnished to the SEC and is also available on our website at investors.sproutsocial.com. And with that, let me turn the call over to Justyn.

Justyn Howard

Analyst

Thank you, Jason, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us. As we roll into a new year and our second as a public company. I want to express my gratitude to our employees, our partners and our customers. We're in a fortunate position to share amazing results today because of the many people that have contributed to our success. Our teams delivered an emphatic close to 2020 and we expect to deliver a fantastic 2021 as Social takes center stage in the digital strategy for millions of businesses around the globe. I want to first briefly touch on our fourth quarter results then discuss high level trends in our business and market that have occurred over the past year, which will build into our priorities for 2021. Our accelerating growth and strong results across the board give us confidence in our strategy and the investments we are making in our future. Social has never been more mission critical and our momentum and competitive position I've never been stronger. During Q4, we delivered record net new ARR added a record number of greater than 10,000 customers drove meaningful improvements in customer retention and growth and saw acceleration in ACV growth as our product and up market strategies take hold. We also delivered on our commitment to growth with leverage, expanding our operating margins by more than 1,200 basis points year-over-year, while nearly doubling the ARR added to our business in Q4 versus a year ago. Looking back over the full year 2020 made it clear that social media will be a cornerstone in the next evolution of business. Social has dramatically changed the way businesses reach, engage, serve and build relationships with our customers and potential customers. It's not simply a way to market a brand. It's increasingly becoming…

Ryan Barretto

Analyst

Thank you, Justyn and thanks for the ongoing trust, guidance and support. I'm incredibly proud of our team's fourth quarter performance which shines a light on the sheer size of our opportunity. Justyn is right, Social is more important to more businesses than ever before. And we feel like we're just warming up. Our business and competitive differentiators are becoming more pronounced, which is why this is a perfect time to more closely align our sales, success and marketing efforts in a tightly integrated go-to-market motion. I'm excited to partner even more closely with our talented CMO, Jamie Gilpin and our entire marketing team has been building one of the best inbound engines in SaaS. My goal for today is to provide insight into what we're seeing from customers, and what it looks like when organizations begin to fully operationalize social. I'll start by sharing some interesting data points about the way buyer behavior is evolving. According to a recent report from TrustRadius 87% of b2b technology buyers now want a self service option. TrustRadius found that the top three things that buyers trust and are influenced by are free trials, product demos, and user reviews. As, well, we lead with the trial. And according to J2, which compiled feedback from more than 3,000 customers. Sprout's user reviews lead the industry in every category. We've built a product and a sales motion that matches the modern software buyer with a product they want to buy. It's our mission to get the user's hands on the keyboard, empowering them to engage with our technology and our team well before they need to make a commitment to us. And this is how we live. These preferences are likely to have permanently shifted over the past 12-month. According to a study by McKinsey,…

Joe Preto

Analyst

Thanks, President Barretto. And I'll walk you through our fourth quarter and full year 2020 results in detail before moving on to guidance for the first quarter and full year 2021. Total revenue for the fourth quarter was $37.3 million representing 33% year-over-year growth. Excluding the impact from legacy simply measured organic revenue was up 36% year-over-year. For the full year 2020, total Revenue was $132.9 million, up 29% year-over-year, organic revenue was up 36%. Total ARR ended in Q4 was $158.3 million, up 34% year-over-year. Organic ARR was $157.2 million, up 36% year-over-year. We again achieved record net new ARR with held across the entirety of our business and acceleration in ACV. We had 1,162 net new customers in Q4 to finish the year with 26,718 customers, up 13% year-over-year. This fantastic net add result is a reflection of very strong performance across all of our segments. As a quarterly reminder, we may focus on long term double digit customer growth with a focus on high quality unit economics. The number of customers contribute more than $10,000 in ARR reach 3,149, up 44% from a year ago and up from 2,790 in Q3 2020. The tax rates of both listening and premium analytics are rising across the customer base as businesses harness the power of social data. We are leaning into a full platform because our customers are operationalizing social across the entirety of their business. We expect that this will drive double ACV expansion, and even stronger unit economics for many years to come. Our mix of enterprise and mid market customers is also growing. Within this our large customers are getting bigger. This resulted in acceleration in our ACV to 90% growth, even after two quarters in a row, accelerating overall customer growth. In discussing the remainder…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Raimo Lenschow from Barclays.

RaimoLenschow

Analyst

Hey, thanks for taking my question. And congrats on a great finish to the year. I wanted to go back to the dollar net retention numbers you gave out, Justyn of about 120% over in Q that we saw in Q4 if you ex out the SMB part, like can you talk a little bit about the drivers of that? And what are the -- what -- how do you see this changing going forward or policy going forwards? Then I have a follow-up, please.

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes. Hey, Raimo, how are you? This is Justyn, I'll start with that. And Joe may have some to add here. So generally speaking, the ex SMB bucket does contain our agency segment as well. The SMB and agency were probably disproportionately impacted during the Q2 timeframe, which we talked about. And we did see some during that primarily Q2, and maybe part of Q3 timeframe, some slower expansion in some of the existing customer base that may be looking to grow with us, and maybe it put a pause on things temporarily. So that generally just came back to what we would normally expect of those levels for the remainder of the year, which is where we saw that that upward trend and improved performance frankly over the last half of the year, but primarily just build through from that Q2 impact that we saw.

RaimoLenschow

Analyst

Okay. Perfect. And then just one follow up, like as we all think about like the world evolving this year with more vaccinations, et cetera like, what do you see in terms of early signals in terms of engagement levels with prospects, prospecting, et cetera like, how do you see this year playing out in terms of like is it like decent first time stronger second half? Or like how do you think about it, as you kind of look out? Thank you.

RyanBarretto

Analyst

Yes, hey, Raimo. This is Ryan. Thanks for the question. We feel really good about the trajectory of the business right now. We've proven through 2020, that our business can quickly evolve. And we're set up for this remote engagement and all the data that we're seeing, even with vaccines, is really highlighting that this remote engagement, digital interaction is going to be here to stay. And so when we think about the go-to-market motion, that our team has our success and being able to get customers up and running in remote fashion, having them not only implement but drive adoption in a remote fashion has us really well set up on a go forward. So we feel like when we look at the rest of the year, we're well positioned to keep executing the way that we've been executing through 2020.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from a line of Rob Oliver from Baird.

RobOliver

Analyst

Great. Good evening, guys. Thank you very much for taking the questions. Justyn, one for you. You made a comment in your prepared remarks about being pulled into new use cases within the enterprise. And I know just profound you guys for a while. Definitely it's always interesting to encounter different departments that are using your software. But that sounds like it might be a little bit more to that. So I just was wondering if you could maybe flush out that comment. And then I had a quick follow up.

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes, sure. Happy to do it. Hey, Rob. So, I think what we're seeing really is more volume of adoption across customers where are -- what progressive customers previously had been looking at new use cases, and they've been starting to operationalize social into things like their customer service and product feedback loops, customer retention strategies, et cetera. What we're seeing right now is more than anything, there's just more businesses that have reached that level of maturity. We're certainly seeing some new use cases as well, I think comp and investor relations is something that has come up more specifically in acutely over the last couple quarters. We're starting to see more of that. So the one that I would flag that I think is going to be more material throughout 2021 is likely on the commerce side. The other is our use cases that we've seen just in small batches in the past, but it's starting to be something that we hear a lot more often and a lot more of the deals that we're in are thinking more holistically across the organization about Social than they were in prior quarters or years ago.

RobOliver

Analyst

Great, okay, that's really helpful. Thanks for that. And I don't know if this one's for you or for Ryan or for Joe. But I mean, Joe, I know you mentioned in your prepared remarks that your operating budget includes all the investments for this year and adjust, Justyn you just you gave us some color on what those were in a general sense. But so maybe I'll take that as a backdrop to Ryan and say as you're seeing customers pull right now, clearly really good demand for premium products with 100% year-over-year growth, listening, I can't remember your exact words, but it sounds like customers are really scurrying to get this stuff. Can you talk maybe a little bit about what some of those investments might be or what you guys are thinking to the extent that you can add color there? Thanks guys.

RyanBarretto

Analyst

Yes, thanks for the question, Rob. In terms of investments; one, we feel really great going into this year with the momentum from last year, a few different areas that we see a lot of opportunity, we've continued to see the up market potential continuing to invest there, our marketing team has been doing a fantastic job, the top of the funnel has been incredibly healthy for us across all segments, we'll continue to invest in some areas there both on the SEO and SEM side is that's proven to be a really fruitful thing for us. And then from a team perspective, we see a lot of opportunity across all of our segments. And the ones where you could probably see outsized investment will continue to be the mid market and enterprise space. In terms of products that the product team has been delivering some really great stuff for our customers, you're seeing it in the net dollar retention, but also the expansion of our new lands. And so you'll continue to see us putting our foot down on the attach rates and those premium products.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Alex Kurtz from KeyBanc.

MikeMcMahon

Analyst

Hi, this is Michael and for Alex and congrats on the quarter. So as you head into 2021, are you making any changes to the salesforce compensation around extending customer spend verse acquiring the customers, and then also on the selling more add-on products?

RyanBarretto

Analyst

Hey, Mike, this is Ryan; we are not making any changes to the way that we compensate. We've always had the same model. So one thing that's probably important to note here is we have dedicated sales teams on both the new business side, and then on the customer side. And so it's the same teams that are specialized in working with those customers. So our approach to 2020 will look very similar to what it did in 2020 from just from an expense standpoint.

MikeMcMahon

Analyst

Okay, great. And then the second -- sorry --

JustynHoward

Analyst

No, sorry about that. I was just going to add, I think part of the spirit of the question was just around the mix shift that we're seeing in some of the attach rates. To Ryan's point, we've baked a lot of that into the compensation model to date. So we're carrying that through, and we think part of the traction that we're seeing is certainly that alignment. But we see much the same opportunity in 2021.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from a line of Matt VanVliet from BTIG.

MattVanVliet

Analyst

Yes, hi, guys. Great job on the quarter and maybe just expanding on those last couple of questions thinking about a little differently. You talked about the fourth quarter really recovered on and will go up market and say there are dollar based revenue retention was 120 plus, as you think about kind of proliferating through your existing customers with modules already using versus selling some of the more premium modules as an upsell cross sell. Can you help us break it down a little bit in terms of that additional sell? What's contributing more there and maybe how you think about that heading into 2021.

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes, this is Justyn. I'll add some color there. So we see the both the expansion of ACVs on the core platform as well as the expansion when we've got a catchments of the premium plot products. Both of those are growing at a very healthy clip. We definitely are seeing more customer engagements where there are not just needs for those additional products but needs for additional seats across the organization, some of those additional use cases that we talked about other departments that are being becoming involved in social. We also have, there are some mechanics in the premium add-ons that do have a bit of leverage spent to them, where as even those add-ons are adopted further across the organization. There is greater investment involved with that in terms of additional data, additional queries and things like that. So we've got a couple of different sort of pricing principles to play there. But we love that we're seeing the core platform just in its intended use without the add-on data is growing very nicely as well. So both of those in combination has really been a great tailwind for us.

MattVanVliet

Analyst

Right, very helpful. And then as you look at your international markets, it's really been a good driver of growth so far this year. Where are you at or where do you feel like you are in terms of your longer-term plan in getting into specific markets making kind of step function investments of opening local, local offices and hiring local people? I guess how long should we think about that? That is kind of a bigger chunk of the investment pie versus getting to a level where you can really start seeing some tremendous efficiency there.

RyanBarretto

Analyst

Thanks, Matt. This is Ryan. Yes, I would say that we're still very early innings here. We opened up our first international office back in 2019 in EMEA in Dublin, and have seen really good progress with that group. From a productivity standpoint, getting people in the market has been very helpful for us locally being on the right time zone and the right accent, in the right language, we are continuing to invest there, I think it's going to be a big opportunity for us over the next number of years, expanding beyond just EMEA into APAC and LATAM, we are going to be increasing our headcount there. This year, in the next few years, we also see just more localization opportunities, getting more marketing efforts within those international locations, and then also exploring channel opportunities internationally. So I think we're early right now. But we do see it as a big lever in the future states of the company.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from a line of Tom Roderick from Stifel.

TomRoderick

Analyst

Great. Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking my questions. Happy New Year. Justyn let me throw a product question at you here first. And I'd love to hear a little bit more about how the reputation product is being embraced by customers. But I guess the product question on reputation would be just sort of how ready is the product from data ingestion, machine learning analytics framework to be able to take advantage of all that unstructured data? And then how integrated is it with the rest of the portfolio? So a bit of an open ended question on that front, but we'd love to hear a little bit more about that.

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes, happy to speak to and you had mentioned in the context of reputation, is that correct?

TomRoderick

Analyst

Correct.

JustynHoward

Analyst

Okay, cool. Yes. So to the first part of that question, so the platform is built in a way while the data is unstructured, and it's a little different than some of the data structures of the other social platforms that we integrate with. There's not a ton of variation, right? There are some commonalities there. And we built against kind of those common frameworks. So for us to add new data sources on ingest side is actually a pretty quick effort at this point, like we've done the legwork to get there. Now, it's just about getting those relationships where we may not have those or the ones that we do, deciding which capabilities we want to turn on. So it's a pretty quick process. And I do think that the tools that are built are ready for the additional platforms that will add on that side. The big investments that you'll see from us on in the reputation segment have primarily to do with adding those additional data sources like you mentioned, but also looking into deeper analytics, better ability to identify opportunities for improvement and things like that, particularly across the larger organizations. So you're going to see that team within our product or make a ton of advances, we still consider the reputation product to be very much kind of a V1with tons of room to grow.

TomRoderick

Analyst

Yes, that's great feedback. Thanks for that. And I guess my follow up question here. I'll direct this one at President Barretto. Ryan, congratulations on the promotion greatly deserved. And I'd love to hear a little bit more about sort of your view on the upgrade path. I mean, look, you had 1,200 new customers last quarter, almost 1,200 again, this quarter. There's just a tremendous number relative to what you've been historically doing. And so, that flywheel seems like it can spin a little bit faster with respect to the upgrade path. But perhaps you could talk about that a little bit in the context of go-to-market, how you're arming your reps with the tools they need to successfully upgrade at a faster clip.

RyanBarretto

Analyst

Yes, thanks, Tom. Appreciate it. We are really excited, as you said the customer adds have been awesome. And it's a combination of just great execution from the marketing team and driving awesome top of funnel as well as the sales team really getting after it. You add in there that for us, obviously, we want to land as big as we can with our premium products. But the team also realizes that part of what's made us so successful here is just the velocity of the sales motion. And so when we get these customers in the product, we get their hands on not just publishing an engagement, but analytics and listening. And if we can't secure the full deal right away, that's okay, we've got a sales team and a great customer success team on the other side, that's able to, as you say, kind of goes in and increase the velocity of the flywheel. So we're trying to win bigger, but even when we don't, we're setting up the team from a customer success and growth perspective, to know what opportunities exist there that we're going to be able to grow. And because we have the dedicated sales team on both the new business side and the growth side, we feel like we're well covered as we continue to have these opportunities to grow. And the last thing I'll say here, and Justyn touched on it earlier is for us, it's not just these premium add-on products, which add a tremendous amount of value. We're just seeing the proliferation of use cases and users across the organization. So even if we land in marketing today, our growth teams or customer success teams know there's a customer care use case on the other side and many others. And so that's kind of how we're thinking about it right now making sure that the team knows the full gambit of opportunity that exists when they're looking at the potential of an account.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Chris Merwin from Goldman Sachs.

ChrisMerwin

Analyst

Okay, thanks so much for taking the question. I think one of the things you mentioned in the prepared remarks was improving the yield on sales and marketing spend. And I know there's an effort to grow internationally, of course, you're showing great traction out market as well as. So can you talk a bit about how you're balancing the increased investment in sales and marketing with improving that yield as well as what specifically we will be driving that up as we move through 2021. Thank you.

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes, so one of the -- thanks for the question, one of the things that is kind of a driving force in the new business acquisition, and the top of the funnel, really revolves around conversion rates from the demo process from the free trial, et cetera. Where we're able to continually make improvements across all of that upper funnel, part of the business. So while we're investing heavily and making tremendous progress, building out the teams on the acquisition side, there's still an opportunity for improved yield. When we think about just what is the funnel look like from our content strategy into the trial or demo flow, or from folks that are visiting our website, et cetera, and getting them fully engaged in the sales cycle.

ChrisMerwin

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you. And then maybe just a quick follow up for Joe on the billings number that was really strong and accelerated strongly in the quarter. As you sign larger customers who I assume are on annual billing, can you talk a bit about to what degree you saw any sort of duration tailwinds in the quarter? And are you able to sort of say what it was like organically or maybe there wasn't much of a tailwind. But just curious about any impact you can call out there. Thanks.

JoePreto

Analyst

Yes, On the billing from there, Chris, I think one thing we're seeing now, as we move more to the mid market enterprise, we're definitely seeing a much stronger, let's say Q4, than we have historically, right, we're getting more of those enterprise deals that are closing towards the end of the year. And so you saw a little bit of that with the acceleration in billings in the quarter. We're also, the sales team is incentive now to close annual deals, so there's definitely an incentive on that side when it comes to annual versus monthly, and so you're also going to do a little bit more momentum on that front, even down market in the SMB and agency space, because there's more incentive now to kind of sign those annual deals.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from a line of Arjun Bhatia from William Blair.

ArjunBhatia

Analyst

Guys, thank you for taking my question. And I'll add my congrats on the results really great quarter. Justyn, maybe I'll start off with you on the first on a product related question. You touched in your prepared remarks on add investing more in core capabilities around care and commerce. And I think you emphasize commerce maybe a little bit to an earlier question. But as you're thinking of enhancing these capabilities, I'm just curious how you're thinking of maybe spinning these capabilities out as separate solutions versus incorporating them into the core platform and giving customers access to it that are already subscribed to the engagement side of the platform?

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes, great question. So from the product side, I think that there are a couple flavors, when we're thinking about the roadmap and the things that we're going to be building a couple categories that they fall into, I think one is what we would consider to be part of the core capabilities, but certainly our enhancements and improvements for our customers, where there's an opportunity to drive not only retention and expansion, but just deal size, seat count, et cetera. And monetize those improvements, while not on new skews very much in a way that flows through to the unit economics to the ACVs and to the growth opportunities. So that's one flavor. And then the other typically comps when we've seen enough gravity around a certain set of features. So similar to what you saw from us with reputation or analytics or listening. Once we built out the capabilities to a point where they are fitting a specific use case, where they are above and beyond what the core platform, what the customers' need of the core platform, there's an opportunity for us to repackage that as an additional SKU. And I think you're going to see some of that from us as well. You'll also reputations, an example of where we brought in entirely new capability into the fold, and monetize that through the addition of profiles and locations that our customers are managing. So there's a bunch of different ways that that product development can start to contribute to revenue, whether it's through a new SKU, or the things I mentioned, where it's retention, it's expansion, additional seats, et cetera.

ArjunBhatia

Analyst

Great. That's very helpful color. And then I wanted to touch on your customer additions. We talked about this a little bit. But it looks like over the last few quarters, I think you've added just as many new customers as you did in 2019. So great to see the momentum there but as you're looking at this new cohort, I'd be curious to see if you're noticing any differences in how these customers are coming into your funnel, how they're landing, the expansion cadence, anything else that you can point out with this cohort relative to what you've seen historically, and new customers are coming to the platform.

RyanBarretto

Analyst

Yes, thanks for question, Arjun. This is Ryan. Most of it actually feels very similar. So we're running a lot of the same place. If I think about the marketing approach and our focusing on content marketing and driving people to our site and to our trial, a lot of those plays look the same, we've certainly increased the throughput on content. And we're having great conversations with those customers. But the approach has been very similar that what I will say is and you can see it in ACV increase in 19%. We're landing these customers much bigger, and we're having more growth opportunities with the current customer base. So I think the major takeaways are we've seen an evolution of our customers coming in, Justyn mentioned it a little bit before there's a different certification for these customers. There's more use cases, which means typically, more users and oftentimes more of the add-ons. And I think that's one of the big things. The other thing and Joe mentioned a few minutes ago are just the opportunity to grow these customers into longer term contracts as well. So generally just feel really great about the cohort that we've been seeing this whole year, and especially in Q3 and Q4.

JustynHoward

Analyst

And a quick add there. I think another important point that we talk about it in the past is somewhat out of the norm our customers, the larger that they come in the more likely and to greater magnitude they are to grow. And so it's not a case where they are -- while our ACVs are growing, that actually represents a bigger growth opportunity for us, which is counter to what you may see in some other models.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Stan Zlotsky from Morgan Stanley.

StanZlotsky

Analyst

Perfect. Thank you so much, guys. I would say I wanted to follow up on the previous question on net add, but specifically focus on the much bigger customers, you guys are landing, essentially, the greater than 10,000, the 359, that you put up net new in Q4, essentially as much as you put up in all of the first half of 2020. So how much of these larger the 10,000 plus on net new add, how much of it was just existing customers kind of crossing over that threshold versus net new logo lands and then just a follow up on that specifically for the net new logo lands? What's driving those larger lands for those 10 plus 10,000 plus customers? And I have a quick follow up.

RyanBarretto

Analyst

Thanks Stan. This is Ryan; it's actually a pretty healthy balance. When you think about the net adds 10,000 we certainly seen our new business acquisition continue to execute really well. Q4 is historically a really strong quarter for the up market customers. So we saw a lot of success there. But we've also seen a lot of growth happening from our current install base. And then that tends to be both users and add-on. So I would say it's a pretty healthy balance right now. And again, this goes back to the fact that we have dedicated teams on both in new business, as well as the customer growth side. So pretty healthy one two punch there from that perspective. And I think your second question was just about what's driving the larger growth will address?

StanZlotsky

Analyst

Yes, the initial lands above the 10,000 what's driving that? That the momentum there?

RyanBarretto

Analyst

Yes. So it's kind of a healthy combination, again, of both the users and the premium add-ons. From a user perspective, what I've seen change over the four and a half years that I've been here is just the number of users that want access to the platform. When I first started, what used to be a marketing person that was responsible for Social has expanded to social media teams that need access, people in the marketing department across PR comms brand content? And now more and more, we're seeing it go into care, social care, social support, as well as just business users are trying to tap into the business intelligence from social. So it's a combination of more users landing, but then we've added these premium products over the last couple years. And they've really started to take hold over the last year from a listening and analytics perspective. So it's been a good combination of both, but I'd say that the users are slightly greater than the add-on products at this point.

StanZlotsky

Analyst

Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you, Ron. And maybe just a follow up for, Joe. Joe, when we look at commentary around you guys getting into new use cases like Investor Relations, communications, as well as just a very strong traction with add-ons like listening premium analytics, reputation, and then we put them into context. So you are saying that your net dollar retention rate can really start to accelerate from here from current levels. How high can they go, right? As we all sit down and kind of start to calibrate our models where should you -- how high can the net dollar retention rates go as we go into 2021, 2022 and beyond? Thank you.

JoePreto

Analyst

Yes, Stan, I think you know what, I'll give out a specific number, I think over the next, multiple years, we see this number continue to increase, we don't see a really a feeling right now, as far as like pegging to a number I will say that our larger customers grow at way more than 120% we have. And so if we look back, for example, Stan, five to seven years ago and look at our top decile customers, and what they were growing at, there's no reason to believe that four, five, six years from now that we can have a large part of our customer base, growing at what our NDR now is now. And then our top decile customers are growing even faster than that. And so we feel pretty good about maintaining growth in those areas for at least the future we can see right now.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Hynes from Canaccord Genuity.

DavidHynes

Analyst

Hey. Thank you, guys. Congrats on the results. Great to see the acceleration. Justyn, I want to ask a question about how you see the space evolving. So if you take a sort of like Qualtrics, right, and a bunch of us initiate coverage on that stock this morning. So I think it's top of mind for investors. If we think about what they're doing in experience management, where -- for them, survey is the primary mode of data collection, how do you think the problem they're solving kind of overlaps with your capabilities in listening or reputation? Like do you see the functional Venn diagrams or used cases for the tech converging over time? And look, obviously, these are huge markets. There's plenty of room for both of you guys, but I'd love to get your thoughts on that.

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes, great question. Thank you. So a couple of things I'd say there. I think when we think about the type of data that exists in the listening and the analytics tools that we're providing to our customers, that is data that is immensely valuable specifically because it's not targeted as a survey might be where a focus group might be these are the folks that don't have a specific polar inclination to provide feedback, but they're speaking their mind. They're talking about their preferences and their trends. And I think that's a really important aspect that businesses has been starting to really understand the value there and being able to understand not just the known universe, but what about all of the people that we're not yet working with that we don't yet know what is it that they want? How can we better serve them? So I think that's an important distinction. I think some of that organization like Qualtrics can start to get to. So I certainly think that there's a bit of overlap there. But the other thing that I'll say a lot of the value that our platform provides is because it's horizontal in nature. And what I mean by that is the people that can then turn that information into action, whether it's planning campaigns or understanding how to better serve customers through engagement on the platforms, et cetera, it's all fluid, right? It's all happening in the same place. The marketers the customer service people, the product people, everyone can be working in the same place. And that creates a really interesting dynamic for our customers. So it's kind of like where is the proximity to the action and where we can get real-time information that really kind of have a pulse on the world to drive quicker decisions. And so I think that will be a distinction. But probably the bigger of the two is just the fact that all of those use cases are able to come together and Sprout and able to drive kind of immediate action across the platforms that are really shaking brands today. So I think that's going to continue to be important.

DavidHynes

Analyst

Yes. Good color there. And then I want to ask about social commerce. Look, I'm not sure I've heard you talk about in the past, and it's come up now a handful of times in the call. Can you just elaborate maybe on like where specifically you see opportunities there? And how Sprout might participate?

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes, totally. So I'll start by saying it's the commitment from the platforms around commerce has really picked up over the last couple of quarters. I think we've heard that on some of their earnings and just seen that in some of the things that they're focused on. For us, the opportunity is in two dimensions. The first is any time that there is more engagement happening in social channels. That's an area where we can add value to our customers and stand to benefit, right? The more business that's happening through social channels, whether it's private, public, etc, the more need they have for tools like ours that are able to capture that conversation to be able to engage with it, to drive those things, etc. So it's kind of like a rising tide effect. The more things that we do as consumers that are happening in social, the better. The second dimension is kind of directly around commerce and the capabilities that the platform to introduce. So where are the opportunities for us to, whether to be providing analytics on the efficiency of those efforts, whether it's to actually provide publishing tools around getting those products and those digital storefronts in front of people, whether it's using the listening data to start to kind of tailor those offerings and adjust them in real time? There's a lot of different ways that could play out. We're working on a handful of things related to commerce. That will evolve a lot through 2021, particularly as it becomes clear what the kind of variety of efforts from the various platforms is going to be. I think that's still kind of early days.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Berg from Needham & Company.

ScottBerg

Analyst

Hi, everyone. Congrats on the great quarter. I see we're up against the clock. So I'll make it one question, but what I'm trying to figure out is your platforms obviously had a big benefit from some of the work-at-home trends and as people are just online more, whether it's from a support or from the marketing kind of front offices that we've spoken about historically. But how do you start thinking about the usage of the platform moving forward as things reopen a little bit here this year? At least, I hope it's going to reopen this year.

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes. Great question. I mean I think the way that we think about it is the events over the last year really behaved as a catalyst for new ways of interaction and engagement. It was the hurdle that allowed people to discover something better. That interacting with brands and buying products in this way, etc, is a great experience, right? Similar to people who maybe haven't made a purchase through Amazon Prime before and now they do, and they're discovering something that can be very beneficial. So a lot of that is going to be, at least in our opinion, lasting effect, right? That -- this was inevitable over a longer period of time, it's been accelerated. But we think that a lot of the trends in terms of just consumer engagement with brands across social are going to stick around. The hours might change as more people go into the office, etc, but that hasn't shifted so dramatically over the last year that there's any reason to believe that there's like some pent-up shift happening. We think it's probably just accelerating on a faster timeline than it might have on its own.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brett Knoblauch from Berenberg Capital Markets.

BrettKnoblauch

Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my question. Just one quick one for me. You mentioned the messaging experience a bit in the prepared remarks. Just wondering if you could elaborate on that and maybe how your product is currently set up or what you'd have to do to get it set up to enable your customers to engage with their customers via messaging channels? Thank you.

JustynHoward

Analyst

Yes, great question. So the product is set up to do that today, it does that today. When we think about our investments around messaging, some of it has to do with just expansion of channels, right? There are more options for people who want to communicate that way with brands and the folks they do business with. So we want to make sure that we've got good coverage there. But we've also seen as those patterns have evolved and as that's become the preferred channel of communication with many brands. There are just additional capabilities that we can be adding there. So it's this dynamic environment where you can introduce new capabilities that just aren't possible over phone or email or others. And so us thinking about what is the next couple of generations of those messaging interactions look like and then making sure we've got that coverage, and we're everywhere our customers need to be from a messaging perspective. Those are really our priorities on that aspect of the platform this year.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Justyn Howard, I turn the call back over to you for some closing remarks.

Justyn Howard

Analyst

All right. Fantastic. Well, thank you all for joining us today. Thanks for the great questions. I think we did go over a few minutes. So thank you for that. I know there's a busy day today. Thanks always for the support to the team, and we look forward to catching up with you in our conversations throughout the quarter, some of the events we'll be attending. Have a wonderful evening.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect.