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Sprout Social, Inc. (SPT)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 7, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Rebecca, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Sprout Social Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. I would now like to turn the call over to Alex Kurtz, Vice President of Investor Relations, Corporate Development. Please go ahead.

Alex Kurtz

Management

Thank you, operator, and welcome to Sprout Social's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Call. We will be discussing the results announced in our press release issued after the market closed today and have also released an updated investor presentation, which can be found on our website. With me are Sprout Social's CEO, Ryan Barretto; and CFO, Joe Del Preto. Today's call will contain forward-looking statements, which are made pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. All statements other than statements of historical fact are forward-looking. These include, among others, statements concerning our expected future financial performance, including our Q3 and 2025 outlook and business plans and objectives and can be identified by words such as expect, anticipate, intend, plan, believe, seek, opportunity or will. These statements reflect our views as of today only and should not be relied upon as representing our views at any subsequent date, and we do not undertake any duty to update these statements. Forward-looking statements address matters that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially. For a discussion of these risks and other important factors that could affect our actual results, please refer to our annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2024, as well as our quarterly report on Form 10-Q for the fiscal quarter ended June 30, 2025, to be filed with the SEC. During the call, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures, which are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. Definitions of these non-GAAP financial measures, along with the reconciliations to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our second quarter earnings release, which has been furnished to the SEC and is available on our website at investors.sproutsocial.com. With that, let me turn the call over to Ryan. Ryan?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Thank you, Alex, and welcome to our second quarter earnings call for fiscal 2025. We reported second quarter results with revenue of $111.8 million, representing year-over-year growth of 12% and non-GAAP operating margin expansion of almost 400 basis points. Our current remaining performance obligations, which reached $251.6 million, represented 18% year-over-year growth. Our go-to-market delivered another solid quarter with 18% growth in the $50,000 and above ARR customer cohort. We landed strategic wins with global brands like Honda, Cigna, Kimberly-Clark, Authentic Brands Group, LaCroix, Smuckers, the U.S. Department of Transportation and Texas Tech. These customers demonstrate our continued execution and strategic fit with the most socially sophisticated enterprise customers. During the quarter, Sprout continued to earn industry recognition. We secured 164 leader badges in G2's latest reports with top rankings in enterprise social media suites, analytics and customer service across North America, EMEA and APAC. We also earned TrustRadius 2025 top-rated awards in 8 categories, including social media marketing, audience intelligence and online reputation management, reinforcing the meaningful business outcomes our customers achieve with Sprout. Additionally, we received Silver for Best Influencer Marketing platform at the Global Influencer Marketing Awards and a Silver Shorty Award in the micro Influencer Strategy category for our own innovative influencer strategy that turned Sprout's listening data into thought leadership and helped shape industry conversations. Today, I'm excited to begin by discussing our recent acquisition of NewsWhip, a leader in AI-powered predictive media intelligence. Headquartered in Dublin, Ireland, NewsWhip was a privately held company with approximately 70 employees, and we couldn't be more excited to welcome the team to Sprout. NewsWhip has become a mission-critical tool for some of the largest global brands, media companies and agencies for crisis management, real-time media monitoring, research and strategy. Strategic customers such as Nissan, The Associated Press, a…

Joseph M. Del Preto

Management

Thanks, Ryan. I'll now run through our financial results and guidance. Our second quarter results were highlighted by a quarterly non- GAAP operating margin of 9.2%, up nearly 400 basis points from the year ago period. We generated $5.2 million in non-GAAP free cash flow during the quarter, up $2.7 million from our non-GAAP free cash flow in 2Q '24, an increase of 110% on a year-on-year basis. On a trailing 12-month basis, non-GAAP free cash flow is up 4x. We remain committed to growing operating leverage on a fiscal year basis. On to a summary of the quarter. Total revenue for the second quarter was $111.8 million, representing 12% year-over-year growth. Subscription revenue was $111.1 million, up 13% year-over-year. The number of customers contributing more than $10,000 in ARR grew 6% from a year ago. The number of customers contributing more than $50,000 in ARR grew 18% from a year ago. Q2 ACV was 15,321, up 14% year-over-year. As Ryan discussed earlier, our strategy to drive ACV growth remains focused on shifting to a higher enterprise mix and strengthening premium module attach rates such as influencer marketing and customer care. RPO totaled $347.0 million, down from $360.2 million as in Q1 and up 18% year-over-year. We expect to recognize 72% or $251.6 million of total RPO as revenue over the next 12 months, implying a CRPO growth rate of 80% year-over-year. Non-GAAP operating income totaled $10.3 million, which was ahead of the high end of our outlook. This was up from $5.3 million a year ago and equates to a non-GAAP operating margin of 9.2%. We're pleased that our progress here demonstrates our focus on continued growth in our margin profile. Before moving on to guidance, a few quick comments about our acquisition of NewsWhip. We acquired NewsWhip for…

Operator

Operator

Your first question comes from the line of Arjun Bhatia with William Blair.

Arjun Rohit Bhatia

Analyst

Maybe to start out with, just if you can zoom out and just take a step back for a second, I'd be very curious to hear just how you would characterize the core business as it stands today? Then I have a follow-up after that.

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Arjun, it's Ryan. I'll start. Thanks for the question. Yes, just in terms of the business, we've been really pleased with the progress that we've been seeing and incredibly proud of the effort from the team. The business has been performing really well and tracking the plan that we laid out to all of you at the beginning of the year. We've had some great wins this quarter, Cigna, Authentic Brands, Honda, Smuckers, Department of Transportation were a few that we had shared in the prepared remarks. We grew both the 10,000 and 50,000 customer accounts quarter-over-quarter. On top of that, our 50,000 trailing 12-month revenue cohort is growing greater than 30%, which just shows the enterprise execution. On the retention and renewal side, the performance has been really strong, and we've seen steady improvement in gross revenue retention year-over-year. We're seeing continued momentum with our teams and closing more annual and multiyear deals, which will contribute to retention and certainly gives us better visibility in the business. Then finally, from a non-GAAP operating margin, we're up nearly 400 basis points, which I think really speaks to the execution and the operating discipline that we have in the business. Everything considered, we're feeling really good about where the business is as we head into the back half.

Arjun Rohit Bhatia

Analyst

Then just as a follow-up, as I'm looking at the guidance, can you just give us a sense of what the impact of NewsWhip is and what you've incorporated into the guidance here?

Joseph M. Del Preto

Management

Yes. Thanks, Arjun. This is Joe. I'll jump in on this one, and thanks for the question. Maybe let me walk you through how we approach the guidance in total, and I think that will be most helpful to address the question you're asking. I think first, our core business came in slightly ahead in Q2 and continues to track to the plan we laid out to you at the start of the year. We haven't assumed a change in the broader demand environment, and we flowed through a modest portion of the Q2 beat into our updated full-year guide to reflect that. For the NewsWhip business, we're projecting that to contribute approximately $2.5 million over the final 5 months of the year. You got to remember, with any small tuck-in acquisition, we want to take a prudent approach looking ahead. We just closed the acquisition last week. There are still natural unknowns around renewal rates, pipeline conversion and other business fundamentals we need to consider. As a result, we are taking a very measured approach with our guidance. We're still early, but we believe this really sets us up to lead in an area that's becoming increasingly important to our customers and to the market, and we're really excited about this acquisition.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Scott Berg with Needham.

Robert Michael Morelli

Analyst · Needham.

This is Rob Morelli on for Scott Berg. Just to double click on the NewsWhip acquisition. Can you just touch on the time line to integration of the teams and products? You noted some positive momentum with enterprise conversations so far. Any other feedback from customers just regarding this acquisition and the capability being added to the suite?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes. Thanks, Rob. I appreciate it. We're digging in, as Joe said, we're about a week in. The teams are chugging along already. We've been working on a bunch of all hands with the teams and actually just in all hands with the NewsWhip team yesterday and a company all hands last week. We've been getting the CRMs together and aligning everything and working really closely on the go-to-market strategies. We've also just seen a number of conversations already in the first week, so lots of progress being made on the integration. In terms of product integration pieces, those will develop over the next probably a few quarters or so, but the teams are working in the background. Obviously, as we mentioned on the call, Paul, the Co-Founder is now the GM of our Listing business, and we'll be really working closely with the rest of the team there. Then from a customer perspective, one, I'd just say the teams are internally are incredibly excited about the opportunity to share the value of the NewsWhip product to our customers. We've seen this as a mission- critical solution for PR communications professionals and the ability to take the insights from NewsWhip and have them drive actions in the Sprout platform is really, really exciting. Initial feedback, and again, it's only been a week, it's been strong. I encourage all of you to take a look at the NewsWhip website and go to the customer stories, you get a great sense for the quality of the customers there and the types of problems that they're solving.

Robert Michael Morelli

Analyst · Needham.

Then last quarter, there was a reference to the launch of a multiproduct campaign. I understand it might still be early days, but have you seen any benefit from this effort resulting in expansions with existing customers or larger lands with new and sort of jump in new customer ARPU since this was launch?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes. Thanks, Rob. Yes. I mean I will say it's been a massive focus for our team across both the product organization and go-to-market. We've been seeing healthy pipeline being created there. Clearly, NewsWhip has been a big contributor to that and will be as we go forward. I mentioned Guardian on the call as well, another great example of a product that we launched in the quarter. I think lots of progress happening right now, but nothing else to add, and we'll certainly come back and share the progress along the way. Thanks for the question.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Adam Hotchkiss with Goldman Sachs.

Adam R. Hotchkiss

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

I guess I think we've heard from some of your peers, and I think you had mentioned that the growing cost of advertising, particularly, if you're a smaller business. I'd be curious if that is resonating with your customers when you talk to them about the value of social as a channel and if you're seeing any mix shift in the way that brands are thinking about their advertising strategies. It really feels like that, that's really ticked up in the last couple of quarters. I'm just curious if that's impacted you and your deals at all.

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes. I appreciate the question, Adam. It ties a lot to the final piece of my prepared remarks as I got into the idea of social search. We are certainly seeing customers talking a lot about the fact that they've seen pretty significant disruption to the things that they counted on in the past, specifically around search engine optimization and search engine marketing. Certainly, we're in this world right now where the cost per click on a lot of these things have increased significantly and people are clicking less. Our customers are definitely looking for more help and how do they show up in the right places where discovery is happening. We're seeing more and more of that happening on social. A lot of the conversations we're having with customers is, how are you reclaiming some of the lost traffic and performance in places like social. If you think about what our platform does, it really helps customers figure out the right type of content to produce, the right time to post it to their audience, give you analytics on both your paid and organic so that you can really double down on the things that are working. Clearly, in this environment, that's something that's really, really critical. I'd say that it's been a material part of the conversations that we're having with customers. I'd say, most of our customers are having that conversation right now with the disruption in the market for their funnels.

Adam R. Hotchkiss

Analyst · Goldman Sachs.

Then just on the RPO and the CRPO dynamic, I noticed that stepped down sequentially. I think you mentioned it. RPO, I think, was even below Q4 levels. Is that just churn at the low end of the market? Or anything else to call out there, seasonality would be helpful.

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes, Adam, I think really what is attributed to the last thing you said there, which is the seasonality part of the business. As we move more upmarket over the last couple of years, a lot of our bigger renewals and the larger deals were signing in Q3 and Q4. What you'll see is in the back half of this year, you'll see that those dollars start to tick up in the next couple of quarters. We feel pretty good about how we'll exit the year in 2025 as it relates to those metrics. We feel good about the momentum there. It's the seasonality that you called out.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Parker Lane with Stifel.

Jack McShane

Analyst · Stifel.

This is Jack McShane on for Parker. I wanted to touch on the macro. Obviously, there's been a lot of geopolitical headlines this quarter. I'd be curious to hear how both the pipeline was impacted by the noisy macro and how renewal conversations have been impacted as well?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Thanks, Jack. Appreciate the question. I'll start off on the pipeline side of it. Yes, clearly, we're still in the same demand environment. I wouldn't call out anything that's materially changed for us this quarter from the last previous quarters. For us, it's definitely leaning into the value prop. Similar to my feedback on the last question to Adam, a lot of this for our customers right now is this is an important part of the work that they're doing, whether it's discovery and making sure that they're getting their customers in the front door or thinking about how they respond to their customers from a Care perspective. We're certainly leaning in more, as I've shared in previous quarters on just the customer value and the ROI story, but I feel really good about what I'm seeing from the teams and the type of rigor that Mike and the team has created around pipe creation and pipe acceleration. Nothing to call out that's different from previous quarters there. On the renewal side, we feel really good about that. We've seen a lot of progress year-on-year in terms of our retention and renewal rates. I think this also speaks to the value of the product for our customers and the fact that they're spending hours a day in our products, and this is how they execute on their social strategy, but we've seen that as a strength for us.

Jack McShane

Analyst · Stifel.

As a follow-up, I'd be curious to touch on the customer care use case and more specifically, how Salesforce's emphasis on Agentforce has impacted the demand in this segment?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes. No, I appreciate it. The Care continues to be a really important use case for our customers. We shared a few stories today just highlighting with really large customers, how they're leveraging Care. One specifically was an example of a customer that moved over to us, a global health tech company that moved over to use the Service Cloud integration. I mean this customer is literally managing 90,000 customer support requests every single month, and they're able to execute on that with that speed and customer satisfaction because of the integration that we've built with Salesforce. It's continued to be a really important part of the strategy. Clearly, our customers are doing it directly in our product or they get the benefit of leveraging integrations like the Service Cloud, but more-and-more, we're seeing customers showing up on social as a place that they want to be served. Their expectations when they show up on social are higher than any other channel. The way that our platform is set up to support customers matters significantly. Yes, on the Agentforce side of things, we're excited about the work that we're doing there. We're coming off of connections and getting geared up for Dreamforce. I believe this will continue to be kind of the next chapter in the value that we're adding to customers that are joint Sprout and Service Cloud and Salesforce customers.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Surinder Thind with Jefferies.

Surinder Singh Thind

Analyst · Jefferies.

Can you maybe talk a little bit about just the sales of some of the premium modules and the attach rates that you referenced as part of the strategy? Does the environment like this make it a little bit more difficult? I mean it feels like things haven't really changed a lot in the last few quarters, but there just seems to be a lot of noise out there, and we're hearing different things from different channels.

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes. I appreciate the question. Yes, I alluded to it a little bit before, but I've been proud of what I'm seeing from the team in terms of creating this multiproduct pipeline, but the product teams have been working hard in the background here. We've talked through a few of the use cases that we have. We've added Guardian, our Trust and compliance products this past quarter. Obviously, NewsWhip is another addition there. I think this is just really important for us because what it means is it allows our sales team to show up to customers with a variety of different product problems that we can solve for our customer base. Clearly, the demand environment hasn't, to your point, changed over the last number of quarters, but that's why it's even more important for us to be able to really serve customers depending on where they are. We've got customers coming in where they got high volumes passing on social from a Care perspective, which we can do important. We've got other customers where we're seeing significant disruption at the top of the funnel from a marketing perspective and social ends up being a really important thing for them. These are some of the examples. I think the last piece I'd leave you with is that from an attach rate perspective, we continue to see a lot of headroom and opportunity for us to sell our products both from a new business perspective to land bigger as well as from a current customer perspective to be able to attach more products to our current base of almost 30,000 customers.

Surinder Singh Thind

Analyst · Jefferies.

Then when I think -- obviously, the international business, international clients is a little bit smaller part of the business. Just any color on the trends there? EMEA has been lagging the U.S. for a little bit, and I didn't see the Queue out yet. Just any color that you can provide there on some of those numbers and trends?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes, I appreciate it. You're right. International is still a smaller part of our business, but we feel really strongly about the market opportunity there and the teams that we have on the ground. Our distribution teams are still relatively small compared to the U.S. We're seeing good progress in terms of the pipeline and the opportunity. We're also with a lot of the multi-products that we're bringing to bear and the types of companies we're selling to, we're getting more of these global type opportunities where the footprint in the U.S. will open up opportunities for our teams in EMEA or in APAC. I think the main takeaway is that we're still early on that journey, but there's quite a bit of room there. Over time, we'll be continuing to invest in our distribution. Thind, just to answer the last part of your question, as far as the mix for international, Q1 to Q2, it hasn't changed materially. When you see the Queue come out, the ratio of international revenue versus the rest is pretty consistent, so no major shift there as of yet.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matt VanVliet with Cantor.

Matthew David VanVliet

Analyst · Cantor.

I guess when you look at where the NewsWhip technology fits in, in the current product platform, curious if this was sort of a discovered either gap or just a greater extension of the listening platform where you getting into situations where people are trying to push Listening into other use cases and you just needed more functionality. Just curious, I guess, if you could elaborate a little more on where it overlaps or complements the Listening platform?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes. I appreciate the question, Matt. It is an excellent complement for us. One of the things that we really appreciated about the NewsWhip team is what they do is really, really tied to a lot of our future product road map. Maybe the best way to think about this is we see it as really strengthening our overall approach to the market and really differentiating us against our closest competitors. If you think about the Sprout Listening, Sprout Listening is really about deep analysis and longer-term understanding of social conversations and share of voice and brand sentiment. It's ideal for brands when they're trying to understand the why behind historical trends and insights. NewsWhips is the command center for real-time action. It's built for speed and high stakes. It's helping today's teams figure out this massive fragmented media landscape, and it's giving them these proactive alerts to breaking stories with real-time monitoring and predictive analytics that allow them to know exactly where the trends are. It becomes this essential tool for crisis communications and any team that really needs to get ahead of the narrative. They've also just as a side note, and I mentioned it a little bit in my prepared remarks, they've launched some agents to their customers. which is being adopted really, really quickly here, and it's really helping customers cut through the -- from the signal to the noise. I think the main thing to highlight here is, it fits really well. It complements our overall strategy and a path towards our road map.

Matthew David VanVliet

Analyst · Cantor.

Then, Joe, you mentioned NewsWhip was on pace to be breakeven for the second half. Is that still incorporated in the guidance? Or is there some additional expenses related to integration, maybe speeding up anything they had in the works? I guess what's the second half impact or the next 5 months impact of NewsWhip on the operating income guidance?

Joseph M. Del Preto

Management

Yes. No, good question, Matt. The guidance contemplated that they would be breakeven for the rest of the year. There shouldn't be any incremental expense or any other expenses that we're incurring. That's kind of an all-in when it comes to guidance. Then I think over the longer term, we definitely believe there's a lot of leverage that can come out of that business. We think about putting that product in our sales team and the distribution we get over the more fixed costs that they have right now, I think we feel good about the ability to drive more leverage Sprout overall coming out of '25.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jackson Ader with KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Jackson Edmund Ader

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

The first one is in the core business. Ryan, you've mentioned a bunch of times about trying to capitalize on the struggles of organic and paid search and switching things over to social. I'm just curious, you guys -- especially with new sales leadership, are you running any particular sales plays or special incentives or something to really capitalize on this -- the beginning of this possible mega shifts?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes. Thanks for the question. I think the biggest thing to highlight is we've definitely been enabling the team on the value prop behind this and the things that we can do to help customers in social search, but also in AI search and traditional search. A lot of this has just been reps enablement and then obviously, customer communication. If we think about it, and I mentioned some of this in the prepared remarks, we're seeing more-and-more, especially in Gen Z, consumers showing up in social, searching in places like TikTok and YouTube and Reddit before they're going to traditional search. You showing up in the right place matters a ton, which our customers need to do. We also know that performing really well on social ties into how content is being presented in AI search. The better you do in social means that you will perform better in AI search. Then finally, we're seeing more-and-more of these relationships happening between social and traditional search where things like Reddit and Instagram are indexing on the first page. Again, if you're performing really well, in social, you will have a byproduct sales stream impact that's performing better on traditional search as well. For us, all of these things are things that we're enabling the team on to be able to have those conversations with customers.

Jackson Edmund Ader

Analyst · KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Then a quick follow-up. I think Joe, I think it was you, who mentioned in your prepared remarks that with any acquisition, there's always like the potential for some disruption as you train and add things to the plate of the salespeople. To an outsider, though, I hear NewsWhip's capabilities, and I think pretty similar to what the salespeople were already pitching, right, as far as like a value proposition. I'm just curious, is there something specific that you'll be adding to people's plate? Or is this just -- this is the business of acquisitions and things get a little noisy when you're integrating things?

Joseph M. Del Preto

Management

Yes. Well, first, I'll say we're 1 week in. I think the biggest thing that I'd highlight is -- and it's actually tied up in your question there. It's enablement on making sure that we can perfectly articulate what I shared in an earlier question here around the differences between Listing, our core listing product and NewsWhip and how they fit together, both for our internal team and then certainly for customers. There's enablement. There's things that come with any integration here, but we're off to the races on that. We had an all- hands call last Friday. The revenue team kicked off on Monday. We're deep in that already. I think to your point, these things are so close and so complementary. We also -- in many of our customer accounts, we have folks from the PR and media and [Quant] teams who are in our core platform. These are also people that we, in many cases, should know inside the organization and have an opportunity to now go and share more about this new solution that we have that can perfectly help us.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Rob Oliver with Baird.

Robert Cooney Oliver

Analyst · Baird.

I had 2. Ryan, first for you. I just wanted to ask about the influencer marketing portion of the business. It seems like still a lot of interest in the market around it, a lot of buzz around the potential impact of agentic AI or AI there? You guys obviously made a pretty strong tuck-in acquisition a couple of years ago, and you're not breaking that out anymore, but I just wanted to get a sense for how that's doing and how when you come in for those renewals for perhaps customers that don't have and how those negotiations are going? Then I had a quick follow-up for Joe.

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes. Thanks, Rob. Appreciate it. We feel really good about the opportunity for influencer marketing, the artist formerly known as Tiger. The team -- I shared a little bit on the prepared remarks there, but the product teams have just been cranking in terms of some of the advancements that we've done there. There's been some really nice AI enhancements in the way that we think about creator discovery for our customers. We've been doing a lot actually from a brand safety perspective. As you might imagine, as these large brands are leaning in and trying to figure out the right creators, they need to make sure that these creators perfectly fit their brand and that there's no risk. That's something that we've also just really built into the platform that has added a ton of value. Then just creator vetting to make it much easier for our customers to figure out how to build their strategy and how to add the right creators. A lot of automation and workflow and tools built into all of that. It continues to be a really nice wedge for us to go into accounts that might be vended for social media management, but this is a great way to land with a differentiated product and then leverage that to go back and be able to sell more to that customer later on. Continued progress there and feeling good about the opportunity in front of us. Last thing I'll say is tied to some of the earlier questions around if you're having disruption with traditional SEM or SEO and paid, we've seen that influencer marketing is returning a 5x to 6x on the dollars in. This has been a really great opportunity for our customers to get good return on ad spend in places that they probably aren't investing today.

Robert Cooney Oliver

Analyst · Baird.

Then Joe, just one for you. A lot of questions, obviously, on NewsWhip, but I guess, more broadly speaking, you guys are doing some product investments. I know you've been working on the go-to-market on the enterprise and sales side, pace of innovation. Just not asking you to guide to next year or anything, but just wanted to think about how you're thinking about balancing all of those and the potential for more tuck-in acquisitions onto your platform with potential continued margin expansion?

Joseph M. Del Preto

Management

Yes, Rob, thanks for the question. I think consistent with what we've shown over the last couple of years and what we've guided to this year, which is now you can expect a couple of hundred basis points of margin improvement year-over-year, and I don't see that changing in the near term. That's regardless of like what our growth rate is and what we're doing. I think we've got this commitment that, hey, we believe that we can manage this business in a very responsible manner in any type of condition, and we want to make sure we're continuing to drive that margin in the business. We're not moving off of that commitment to drive margin on a year-over- year basis.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Raimo Lenschow with Barclays.

Raimo Lenschow

Analyst · Barclays.

Ryan, one for you. Like with all the changes in the industry where people -- customers have to think about search, you have to think about social, you need to think about like what do we do through LLMs. How does pipeline conversation change for you as you engage with customers in terms of like number of conversations, but also like size of potential deals?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Thanks, Raimo. Appreciate it. Yes, there's certainly a lot that our customers have to be thinking about. I mean I think the biggest thing here, just goes back to making sure that we are perfectly tuned into the biggest problems for these customers. That is so dependent, obviously, on the key stakeholders we're getting in front of. If you're in front of a marketing audience, they're absolutely thinking about how AI is impacting search, how their SEO and SEM may not be working as well, how their website traffic may not be working as well. We're thinking a lot about social as the front door and trying to figure out how can we help them show up in the right places, drive awareness, get a better return on ad spend. Other customers might be seeing just a significant amount of demand changing channels from their call center or website into social from a care perspective. They've got to figure out how to manage that demand like that example of the 90,000 cases that we're managing. A lot of this just comes down to making sure that our teams are really doing a lot of discovery to understand where the biggest problem sets are and that we're leaning into those solutions and then tying that with real return on investment feedback on the places in which we think that we can help our customers. There's a lot in there for our teams in terms of just investing in the right places and understanding the right problems, but I feel like we've been making a lot of progress there and have been really proud of how the team is showing up in front of customers.

Raimo Lenschow

Analyst · Barclays.

Then I have one follow-up for Joe. If you think NewsWhip with kind of more AI usage, et cetera, is there any -- and you talked about breakeven already, but like is there anything we should be aware of in terms of gross margin implications from -- I assume they use GPUs, et cetera, that we need to consider?

Joseph M. Del Preto

Management

No, Raimo, we feel pretty good about -- we did a lot of work during diligence on the tech side to understand the scalability of their platform, and that was one of the real positives and one of the big check the boxes for our CTO was the way they built the back- end infrastructure and how this is scaling with the AI considered. We feel pretty good, Raimo, that there's not going to be any major change in the cost structure of that business as this ramp.

Operator

Operator

Your final question comes from the line of David Hynes with Canaccord Genuity.

David E. Hynes

Analyst

Ryan, 2 questions on NewsWhip. I get your positioning as command center for real-time action that makes a lot of sense. I didn't hear you say, does NewsWhip give you access to media sources that previously weren't being captured by the Listening offering?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes, DJ, it does.

David E. Hynes

Analyst

Can you elaborate like, what are those?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes. I mean think about pretty much any of the media sources out there that we'd be consuming and looking at all the articles, the value prop of their platform, it takes a little bit of a different angle than we've taken on our listing, right? Our listening is more deep brand sentiment. Our customers use it from a research perspective. They're going back and looking at trends. NewsWhip’s full angle is consuming all the news and media and publications out there, identifying articles that are being created and then figuring out where there's gravity around those articles and what's trending. This matters a lot for our customers because these articles -- as we've seen news breaking many different places over the last few weeks and months and years, these things can turn into real viral moments that are either good or bad, right? On the good side, it could end up creating a lot of demand if you're a product company. On the bad side, it can create a lot of crisis management. They're looking at those media articles and then figuring out where there's gravity around them in places like social to allow those PR and comms teams to figure out where they should be leaning in.

David E. Hynes

Analyst

Then the second, follow-up to that, like what's the price point for NewsWhip? I know it's an enterprise product, but like how much are people spending on it?

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Yes, it's an enterprise product. It's multiples bigger than our average deal size. If you go to their customer case studies, you'll see a lot of the large enterprises that are working with them fits really nicely into our enterprise segment, but we think that we'll see some opportunities there, certainly with agencies and mid-market as well.

Operator

Operator

I will now turn the call back over to Ryan Barretto for closing remarks.

Ryan Paul Barretto

Management

Great. Thank you very much, operator. Thanks for joining us tonight and for the thoughtful questions. I want to end by thanking our team for their continued dedication and effort. I'm really grateful for all you do for our customers and for our business. We look forward to spending more time with the rest of you later over the next quarter, and we will talk to you soon. Have a great night.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect.