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Spire Inc. (SR)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Apr 30, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Spire Inc. Q2 FY 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Megan McPhail, Managing Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Megan McPhail

Analyst

Good morning and welcome to Spire's fiscal 2025 second quarter earnings call. On the call with me today is Scott Doyle, President and CEO; and Adam Woodard, Executive Vice President and CFO. We issued an earnings news release this morning and you may access it on our website at spireenergy.com under News Room. There is a slide presentation that accompanies our webcast, which can be downloaded from our website under Investors and then Events and Presentations. Before we begin, let me cover our safe harbor statement and use of non-GAAP earnings measures. Today's call including responses to questions may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Although our forward-looking statements are based on reasonable assumptions, there are various uncertainties and risk factors that may cause future performance or results to be different than those anticipated. These risks and uncertainties are outlined in our quarterly and annual filings with the SEC. In our comments, we will be discussing non-GAAP measures used by management when evaluating performance and results of operations. Explanations and reconciliations of these measures to their GAAP counterparts are contained in both our news release and slide presentation. Now here is Scott who will start on Page 4 of the presentation.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · JPMorgan

Thank you, Megan. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today for our fiscal second quarter earnings conference call. I am honored to address you today as the newly appointed President and CEO of Spire. I'd like to express my gratitude to Steve Lindsey for his dedicated service and commitment to Spire over the years. Under his leadership, the company made significant strides and built a strong foundation for the future. Steve is assisting me over the next several months ensuring we have a seamless transition. I want to assure you our strategy remains unchanged. We'll continue to focus on organic growth, infrastructure investment and continuous improvement. This includes modernizing our systems to benefit our customers, advancing our regulatory engagement and maximizing value for our customers and other stakeholders while keeping the safety of our employees, customers and communities at the center of it all. Before I dive into results, I would like to express my gratitude to our employees for their dedication to providing safe and reliable gas service for our customers. Despite challenges of extreme cold at times throughout the winter, our natural gas system performed exceptionally well, thanks to their hard work and commitment. Turning to our performance for the quarter. This morning, we announced adjusted earnings of $3.60 per share compared to $3.45 per share a year ago. The year-over-year increase reflects strong growth in our Utility and Midstream segments, partially offset by slightly lower results in gas marketing. Our performance is driven by strategic infrastructure investments to modernize our natural gas systems coupled with our ongoing commitment to disciplined cost management. Adam will provide a more detailed breakdown of our results and share insights into our outlook. Now for an update on regulatory matters. Since our last earnings call, we have worked closely…

Adam Woodard

Analyst · JPMorgan

Thanks, Scott, and good morning, everyone. I'll start with a review of our quarterly results, which are detailed on pages 7 and 8 of our presentation. During the second quarter, we reported adjusted earnings of over $214 million, an increase of almost $18 million compared to last year. The gas utility segment had earnings of approximately $195 million in the second quarter, over $7 million higher than last year. The increased results reflect higher contribution margin at Spire Missouri driven by an increase in distress revenues and usage net of weather mitigation as well as new rates at Spire Alabama. These favorable items were partially offset by lower Spire Alabama usage net of weather mitigation. Excluding bad debt, utility earnings also reflected lower run rate O&M expense and higher depreciation expense. During the quarter, we continued to see strong earnings growth in our Midstream segment driven by new contracts on additional capacity, higher rates on contract renewals and asset optimization at Spire Storage. Earnings in our Marketing segment were strong, but slightly lower than the prior year due to reduced market volatility. Lastly, other corporate costs were higher primarily due to higher borrowing balances. In both Missouri and Alabama, we experienced colder temperatures than last year and slightly colder than normal temperatures. Our volumetric margins in Missouri for the quarter were higher by nearly $7 million, but short of our expectations. This adjustment is highly dependent on the relationship between heating degree days and customer usage set in the previous rate proceeding. The weather mitigation adjustment in Missouri was not effective as revenues were not aligned with usage over the course of the quarter. Looking now to Alabama, while we experienced a higher than anticipated adjustment under the weather mitigation mechanism during the quarter, the year-to-date results are largely in…

Scott Doyle

Analyst · JPMorgan

Thanks, Adam. As you've heard today, we have made significant progress towards achieving our priorities for the year strengthening our position as a more resilient, efficient and sustainable company that creates value for both customers and shareholders. Our unwavering commitment to delivering natural gas safely and reliably remains at the core of our efforts. We are executing on our capital investment plan while actively collaborating with key stakeholders to secure constructive regulatory outcomes that benefit both our customers and shareholders. Additionally, we are focused on meeting our fiscal 2025 adjusted earnings per share guidance range and preserving the strength of our balance sheet. Executing on these objectives is not just a focus for FY 2025, but a long-term commitment to driving success and delivering meaningful results in the years to come. Thank you for your ongoing support of Spire and we look forward to seeing many of you at the AGA Financial Forum in a few weeks. We're now ready to take questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And the first question comes from Richard Sunderland with JPMorgan.

Richard Sunderland

Analyst · JPMorgan

Hey, good morning and Scott, congrats on your new leadership of the company.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · JPMorgan

Morning, Rich. Thank you.

Richard Sunderland

Analyst · JPMorgan

Digging into the results a little bit in finer detail, some moving pieces on the segment guidance. I realize share count is tweaked as well. Can you speak a little bit about 1H trends and then where you're trending on a full year basis given all these moving pieces?

Adam Woodard

Analyst · JPMorgan

Hey, Rich, it's Adam. We wanted to stop and take a minute and really took -- we saw the margin weakness in Missouri and had elected to take that guidance down. Now fortunately, the midstream had exceeded our expectations and we're able to move that up. So from a trend line perspective, obviously, we're moving into the summer months and you won't see a lot of performance out of the gas utilities, but we do see the midstream trending well into the end of the year. And as I mentioned on the last call, marketing, we feel very good about where they're at and where they're going through the year.

Richard Sunderland

Analyst · JPMorgan

Understood. So it sounds like the sort of weather at the utility is obviously unfortunate. Is that really the sole deviation on the utility side? I think you referenced $9 million of customer margin. So it looks like there should be a few other small pieces in there too. Just trying to understand the weather versus where else you're having difficulty forecasting the utility.

Adam Woodard

Analyst · JPMorgan

That's the main driver. As you mentioned, there's a few other pieces, but the main driver really is the weather-related margin.

Richard Sunderland

Analyst · JPMorgan

Okay. Understood. And then with the midstream guidance, that $8 million increase, is it solely a one-off for 2025 or are you seeing a higher run rate for the business going forward?

Adam Woodard

Analyst · JPMorgan

That's a great question. There's a little bit about -- we mentioned optimization there that there -- one, we are seeing relative to where we started the year feeling better about kind of where we're at on capacity and pricing, but a piece of that's optimization. So this would indicate some run rate lift over time, but I want to stress that it's not a complete lift on run rate. There is some optimization in there around circumstances or volatility that we saw in the first couple of quarters.

Richard Sunderland

Analyst · JPMorgan

Okay. Understood. And sorry, just one last one on Midstream while we're on that. The higher capex for Midstream, is that impacting your return expectations for the storage expansion project?

Adam Woodard

Analyst · JPMorgan

Yes, it's Adam again. No, it's not. We did see some higher capital costs going into that and really it continues to exceed our return expectations.

Richard Sunderland

Analyst · JPMorgan

Great. I'll leave it there. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from David Arcaro with Morgan Stanley.

David Arcaro

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Hey, good morning. Thanks so much. Hey, best wishes to Steve and congratulations, Scott.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you, David. Appreciate that.

David Arcaro

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, absolutely. I was curious just maybe on the weather mechanism. Could you elaborate a bit more on kind of what you see as the path forward here within the rate case, just prospects and where that could go?

Adam Woodard

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes. Thanks, David. It's Adam. Obviously, it's front and center in the rate case and it's something beyond the normal kind of cost of service, cost of capital reviews that we're going through is really the one of the main issues for us. And we do feel like we're in a good position to have that conversation with staff and the commission and other stakeholders. But there's -- clearly we need to -- there's something that we need to get fixed here. We realize that and it's a big focus for us.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes. And David, I'll just add. We've proposed in this current case a couple of different options that we want to work with commission staff on and all the stakeholders as we get into the next elements of this case. And it ranges from decoupling to updating the weather time horizon that uses the comparison as well. So a lot of detail that we've got provided in the case, but clearly some work to be done there and we look forward to those discussions going forward.

David Arcaro

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes, got it. Makes sense. Thanks. And then I was just curious your latest thinking on the prospects for a settlement within the rate case?

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Yes. Hey, great question and we still have a lot of work to do. So that's a little early in the process. Maybe just kind of lay out process where we are in these stages. We do have the community meetings that take place. They're coming up here very shortly. Then we have the public hearing or the commission hearing later this summer. There'll be opportunity that's built into the schedule for settlement discussions and those settlement talks can take place both prior to and after the commission hearing as well. The commission at least that we're just watching over the last 12 to 18 months appears to be working towards settlement. So we're certainly willing to entertain those types of discussions as well. So look forward to collective and collaborative discussions going forward.

David Arcaro

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Okay. Excellent. I appreciate the color. Thanks.

Adam Woodard

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thank you.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Morgan Stanley

Thanks, David.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Gabe Moreen with Mizuho.

Gabe Moreen

Analyst · Mizuho

Hey, good morning and congrats, Scott, as well. I would just ask, I know it's a little premature to ask about subsequent rate cases in Missouri given that you're still involved in the midst of one right now. But as far as SB 6 and its passage, can you talk about timing on future rate cases? Do you have to wait until that's implemented before you even start another rate case? So I'm just curious in terms of timing and how that may or may not influence your thoughts about future regulatory activity in Missouri?

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Mizuho

Yes. Hey, Gabe, good morning and thank you for the question. Yes, maybe that's -- and you set it up very well, clearly, our focus is this case right now and that's where our mind's attention is. If you look at Senate Bill 4 and see what's laid out there, July of 2026 is the first time that either a gas or water utility can file based on a future test year basis for their rate case. And so it won't be until that time before we clearly would be able to file, but we have an interest in working under that new paradigm for Missouri. And so more to come in that space as we move forward. But clearly, our efforts right now are focused on this case and getting it to conclusion.

Gabe Moreen

Analyst · Mizuho

Thanks, Scott. Maybe if I could just add a follow on Missouri regulation. I know you're trying to reform the weather mechanism in this rate case here. And I think staff is going to opine sometime soon on that. Is that a negotiation? Is it sort of a thumbs up, thumbs down? I'm just curious how you envision that sort of shaking out within the rate case.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Mizuho

Yes, good question. I think as in all cases, these are things that both parties clearly take sides and then work together and it's something that could be worked on together to get to the right solution that addresses both the needs of the customer, but as well as the company as well. And I think that's the posture we're going to take as we work through this as well. So just like in all cases, there's opportunity for both sides to bring the issues to the table and work together to get to a constructive solution. That's what we're working towards.

Gabe Moreen

Analyst · Mizuho

Understood. Thanks, Scott. Appreciate it.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from Stephen D'Ambrisi with Ladenburg Thalmann. Stephen D’Ambrisi: Hey, guys, thanks very much for taking my question. Scott, congratulations on the new role and best of luck leading the company.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann

Thank you, Stephen, good morning. Stephen D’Ambrisi: Good morning. Just I guess my question would be just on the guidance modification. I guess listening to some of the answers and the earlier questions, it kind of sounds like the takeaway is that to the extent you can fix the weather norm mechanism in the context of this rate case, the earnings power of the utility business hasn't really changed. And then maybe you're seeing some slight structural uplift in the marketing and midstream businesses. So can you just -- am I reading that right or just how are you framing this guidance revision?

Adam Woodard

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann

Yes. Hi, Steve, it's Adam. And I'll give you my point of view and let Scott chime in as well. I think that's a fair assumption. We do expect to get to a constructive outcome on the weather mechanism -- weather mitigation mechanism and we do see some -- obviously with how I characterize the midstream guidance revision, we do see some structural uplift there relative to our earlier expectations. So I think that's a fair assumption.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann

Yes. And Stephen, I think what I'd add maybe just take it up a level is just think about what's happening at the macro level within our company and it's the things we laid out in the script and also just kind of what's been happening in particular as we've been working through this case. But it really is about building momentum as we are finishing out this fiscal year going into 2026. Clearly, you can see the pull through of our customer affordability project that we implemented last year. Those expenses are -- we're seeing the benefit of those expenses staying where they need to be in the right places. I think if a little deeper into the numbers, you can see we're down in administrative in general, but slightly up in our field activities and that means we're putting the money to the places that benefit our customers. So then coming out of that, if you think about the pull-through of capital across both midstream and our utilities that's what we're working on right now. You're seeing the -- as the project -- the storage projects coming to life and we're seeing the pull through of the returns there. And then as we're updating our capital recovery in this instant case that we have before the commission right now, those are things that are providing momentum to us to get us back to the returns that we expect in this business. And we feel-good about the future and that's what we're focused on right now. Stephen D’Ambrisi: Okay. That sounds great. Thank you. And then just one follow-up, just on implementation I guess. So that's before I know you guys have a rate case that you're prosecuting and there's some time here, but do you expect the commission -- do they need to do a rulemaking or will there be some type of process that gets done? And does that go concurrently or is there anything that needs to get done from a regulatory perspective before you guys are actually able to file with a future test year? Thanks.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann

Yes. So maybe just -- I'll just point to the bill, how it's laid out in the bill. The bill does allow for a case to be filed after -- or in July of 2026 or later. It speaks to some rulemaking that has to be completed by a certain date, which is July of the following year. But what we anticipate and I don't want to get ahead of our commission or kind of how they're thinking on it is once they start up, the rulemaking will be active in that and we'll certainly work within the confines of the legislation as we think about the timing of our next case. Stephen D’Ambrisi: Okay. That's great. Thank you very much for the time. Appreciate it.

Scott Doyle

Analyst · Ladenburg Thalmann

Thanks, Steve.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] All right. Well, this does conclude our question-and-answer session. So I would like to turn the floor back over to Megan McPhail for any closing comments.

Megan McPhail

Analyst

So thank you for joining the call today. Have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you so much. Thank you for attending today's presentation. The conference has now concluded and you may now disconnect your lines.