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Q2 2020 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 8, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon and welcome to Shotspotter’s Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. My name is Shamali, and I will be your operator for today’s call. Joining us are Shotspotter’s CEO, Ralph Clark; and CFO, Alan Stewart. Please note that certain information discussed on the call today will include forward-looking statements about future events and Shotspotter’s business strategy and future financial and operating performance. These forward-looking statements are only predictions that are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions that are difficult to predict and may cause actual results to differ materially from those stated or implied by those statements. Certain of these risks and assumptions are discussed in Shotspotter’s SEC filings, including its registration statement on Form S-1. These forward-looking statements reflect management’s beliefs, estimates, and predictions as of the date of this live broadcast, August 6, 2020. And Shotspotter undertakes no obligation to revise or update any forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances after the date of this call. Finally, I would like to remind everyone that this call will be recorded and made available for replay via a link available in the Investor Relations section of the company’s website at ir.shotspotter.com. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Shotspotter CEO Ralph Clark. Sir, please proceed.

Ralph Clark

Management

Good afternoon and thanks for joining us today. I hope everyone on the call is doing well. We’re managing the stay safe at Shotspotter and are following local health care department guidelines with respect to COVID-19. As usual, I’m going to start with a quick overview of the quarter and our operational outlook before Alan details the quarterly results. We’ll then take your questions after that. We’re pleased to report that some of our field customer-facing teams have been a bit more mobile, since late May. Their ability to get back out into the field has had a positive impact on both customer engagement and moving our pipeline forward. The second-quarter was a solid step toward reestablishing our previous momentum after the lockdown suspended most of our sales and renewal activity. We reported quarterly revenues of $11.3 million, up 10% from $10.3 million a year ago. And net income of $866,000 or $0.07 per diluted share versus $387,000 or $0.03 per diluted share in the second quarter of 2019. We went live with 26 new mines, including expansions in Cincinnati in New York City, as well as new deployments in Springfield, Illinois, Albuquerque, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Mammoth County in New Jersey. During and subsequent to the end of the quarter, we also booked two new cities, Cleveland and Fort Lauderdale. And we’ve also been selected to provide gunshot detection services to a portion of Broward County, which is the largest sheriff’s department in the State of Florida. We are also awaiting the final award decision for a RFP bid we submitted to a large Tier 1 MidWestern. These fine engagements are in addition to a couple of Tier 4 savings that we booked since our last earnings call. These deals are fully staffed and active projects that we…

Alan Stewart

Management

Thank you, Ralph. We’re very pleased with our performance in the second quarter, we successfully deployed 26 new miles with no attrition. We added four new cities, achieved record revenue, record gross profit and record adjusted EBITDA. These were all accomplished despite the ongoing COVID-19 Pandemic, along with the [indiscernible] that is affecting our police department. We believe our progress is a reflection of the increased need for our services and the resiliency of our business model. As we discussed last quarter, in light of ongoing concerns around municipal budget, our full-year guidance includes approximately 5% attrition, whereas 2% to 3% we normally expect. We continue to experience strong renewal, including receipt of the delayed $300,000 we mentioned in our first quarter earnings call. With the continuing issues around municipal budgets, we’re certainly not ready to say the risk to renewals is behind us. The conversations with customers and from our belief, that as Ralph mentioned our technology, the solutions we provide and how they assist in community policing is more important than ever. Let me provide more details in the quarter, and then I will share some thoughts around the balance of the year. Second quarter revenues were slightly ahead of expectations at $11.3 million a 10% increase over $10.3 million in the second quarter of 2019. The increased revenues reflect a significant increase in new models, as well as delayed renewals from last quarter. Gross profit for the second quarter of 2020 was $6.9 million or 61% of revenue versus $6 million or 58% of revenue for the prior-year period. We also saw a significant improvement in adjusted EBITDA for the second quarter, which is $3.4 million, a 41% increase from the $2.4 million in the second quarter of 2019. As a reminder, adjusted EBITDA is calculated by…

Ralph Clark

Management

Thank you very much, Alan. I’ll close by reiterating the point that I made last quarter, that while we don’t believe ShotSpotter is recession-proof, we do feel the company is somewhat recession-resistant because public safety is always top of mind with those that control and influence municipal budget. And our service is a critical element in cost-effectively addressing public safety in its most acute form, gun violence. Our unit economics remain strong, our scale and operational efficiency continues to expand, creating a solid profitable foundation on which to grow. And now we’ve not only proven that we have the resiliency to survive, but can even modestly thrive in a difficult operating environment. Thank you very much for joining us today and we’re now prepared to take your questions.

Operator

Operator

At this time, we will be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Joe Osha from JMP Securities. Please proceed with your question.

Hilary Cauley

Analyst

Hello, this is actually Hillary on for Joe. And I just wanted the first kind of touch on your revised guidance range. I was just wondering if you could provide any clarity on what that might look like broken across those different revenue buckets that you spoke about at the Analyst Day?

Alan Stewart

Management

Yes, this is Alan, at this point. So, I mean we just narrowed the guidance because we’re getting more visibility into how the rest of the year looks. We raised that $0.5 million of the bottom and just lowered it $0.5 million at the top as well. The midpoint remains the same, so we feel pretty optimistic right now about how our renewals are going. We had originally thought we might have as high as 5% of the renewals. Our attrition and the renewals and now we expect that to be significantly lower back into our normal range, somewhere around 2% to 3% in terms of actual attrition. But the range itself is predicated on the miles actually lighting up and going live. So, we just thought it was appropriate to keep the midpoint range where it was as we evaluated how fast the deployments are actually going. Travel has improved, access to customers has improved and deployments have improved a bit, but they certainly aren’t back to normal, and we continue to monitor that.

Hilary Cauley

Analyst

Okay, great. And then I just kind of wondering when you look at New York City, obviously, the deployment has been hugely successful. I was just wondering like what’s the potential there to see further expansion or is kind of the 74 miles kind of cover the key target areas there. Thank you.

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So this is, Ralph. Thank you for that question. So, I think New York is fairly well deployed at this point in time. We’re cross five boroughs, we’re in over 70 square miles, and they’re just doing an incredible job in responding to and following up on ShotSpotter activation. So I don’t think it would be appropriate for us to really expect too much more out of New York City at this point in time. Although, of course, anything is possible. I know we said that earlier, yet, we were able to get a very small expansion here in this quarter, but I’ve got to feel like we’re pretty close to being top and in our New York City, which is our second-largest customer in terms of miles deployed at this point in time.

Hilary Cauley

Analyst

All right. Great, thanks for taking my questions.

Alan Stewart

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Richard Baldry with Roth Capital. Please proceed with your question.

Richard Baldry

Analyst

Thanks. So, I’m curious if you can talk about how the selling cycle is changing in the work from home environment, either for the core gunshot detection or missions as well, how well that’s working with your prospects?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So this is, Ralph. I’ll start and, Alan, jump in as appropriate. So, I think like a lot of other companies, I mean we’re finding very creative and innovative ways to do things digitally and remotely. We’ve made a little bit of an investment, I would say, in kind of perfecting the art of giving presentations to prospects over Zoom. We’re still seeing some really good uptake on our marketing outreach – oh, inside sales group outreach to prospects. And I would say we have a number of customers that seem just because of the recent social unrests and the uptick in gun violence that we’re seeing a little bit more of a frothy, I would say inbound activity than what we’ve seen. This is very similar, I think in many ways, to what we saw several years ago after the Ferguson event – the Michael Brown Ferguson event where the nature of the conversations around policing and how policing gets done changes and that generates a lot of interest with potential prospects. I would say for our existing customers that we’re always in dialog with some of which are – we’re having dialogs with them around expansions. It’s kind of two buckets, I would say. There are some that we’ve been talking with them about expansions. And those conversations have been accelerated, I would say. And I think there is other conversations that we’re having that have maybe been pushed back a little bit. They’re still very interested, but their attention is really being away by kind of dealing with the pandemic response and now with social unrest response and maybe their budget thing is a little bit less clear at this point in time, but there’s still interest bit. So, I think there is some puts and takes there, but overall we’re feeling really, really good about the relevancy of our solution and the market’s understanding about how we can make a difference and how they police in this modern era.

Richard Baldry

Analyst

And a follow-up, I think last quarter, you said admissions was operational in two cities with – or more and more sort of booked waiting to go live. So, could we get an update on that and how you feel about its pipeline going into the second half. Thanks.

Alan Stewart

Management

Sure, this is Alan.

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes, you want me to go, Alan?

Alan Stewart

Management

Yes, go ahead. Yes, yes, go ahead. We’ve gone live on two more of the emissions customers and expect the balance of those to go live fairly soon. Admissions is something that requires a lot of in-person activity for data ties and things like that. So it is something that we do expect to be a little slower, at least for the next couple of months, but it is actually picking up. The interest is there, and it is something we’re still very optimistic about over the longer term.

Richard Baldry

Analyst

I’m not sure if I’m willing to comment on this. I’ve been so curious about the disinformation campaign you alluded to. So, we can understand the types of things that we might see in the media and sort of your responses to those – how you overcome those types of objections. Thanks a lot and congrats on the big adds in the quarter.

Ralph Clark

Management

Great, thank you. So I think in general, I would say, there is a lot of energy around defund the police and there are certain segments that I will call extreme segments of defund the police, where they are actually being quite literal. Fortunately, that’s a bit of a minority, but it’s a significant minority actually, that’s been our observation. I think the core of the movement, as I mentioned earlier is really more around how we re-imagine, and re-prioritize how policing gets done, so that they continue to un-overpolice [ph] less and underserve more. I mean, we want to move policing where they’re appropriately serving at-risk communities, particularly around gun violence. One of the interesting things that I’ve observed around what’s different kind of post-pandemic, in terms of how city council meetings happen, is before, you’d have to be really motivated to kind of drive down to City Hall and participate in a discussion around a funding issue and the like. In this world now, where things are being done digitally, all of a sudden people can show up from their living rooms through Zoom or whatever and proffer any amount of opinions that they have on things, and that was a little bit of what we saw in a few of our renewals, where this isn’t very active, mobilized front, where people are saying things like defund police, but in a very not constructive way, I guess I would say, because it’s just not practical to abolish the police or cut their budgets by 50%, and expect that you can have public safety outcomes. And so – but what we’ve tried to do in that environment, I think, we talked earlier about our renewal taskforce. We’re always pretty intentional around how we communicate and discuss our value proposition…

Richard Baldry

Analyst

Thanks.

Operator

Operator

And our next question is from Zach Cummins with B. Riley, FBR. Please, proceed with your question.

Zach Cummins

Analyst

Hi, Good Afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions and congrats on the solid results. Ralph, I know you were talking about, you’ve done a really great job in terms of renewals, so far this year, especially in Q2 with no attrition. But can you give us a sense of, I guess how you’re feeling as we go into some of the budgetary meetings for these other municipalities in the back half of the year? It sounds like there is a little more clarity there, but just to get some of your perspective on that would be very helpful.

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So I think we’re feeling pretty good. Our first line of defense, really, as I mentioned earlier is really around fortifying our value proposition. That’s the first line of defense. And if we do a good job at – if the solution works and we know it works very well and we’re very intentional around establishing, reestablishing, reaffirming our value proposition, that’s the very first line, and most important line of defense around a renewal. And then after that, as Alan and I talked about, we have some other tools in our tool kit that if there is truly a budgetary issues, the second line of defense is to go help them find funding to go support their ShotSpotter service offering and so we’re ready and have resources to be able to lean in with an agency if there truly is a budget issue, where that second line of defense is, hey, I understand the value, but now I still don’t have the money, let’s go work together to figure out how to go get the money from other sources. Fortunately, we’ve seen a lot of stimulus dollars that have been provided by the federal government. In fact, I was recently reading an email from the US Conference of Mayors where the White House and Republicans were really arguing that a lot of the money that they’ve given a number of cities, 38 cities, in fact, have not been spent and the numbers are pretty big numbers, I think. In the case of New York City, there is $1.5 billion of stimulus back there that’s still unspent; Sacramento, $90 million; Denver, $127 million. So it is much as these municipal budgets are a challenge, they’re a little bit offset from some of the federal stimulus money. So, I think we’re still feeling quite constructive. We’re not out of the woods yet as Alan said. It’s not going to be 5%. It’s clearly not going to be zero. We think we’re going to do better than that. I think at this point in time and Alan, correct me if I’m wrong, I think we’re feeling that if we end the year with our normal attrition cadence of 2% to 3%, I think we would count that as a very big win in this really interesting year. Does that answer your question?

Zach Cummins

Analyst

Yes, it does. Thank you for that. And in terms of the ever-changing restrictions across each state and municipality with COVID-19 restrictions. It sounds like your deployment teams had some more mobility in this quarter, but are you still seeing some challenges in certain pockets of the country where you’re unable to get feet on the ground to do these deployments?

Ralph Clark

Management

Absolutely, yes. Yes. It’s not back to normal, yes.

Zach Cummins

Analyst

Got it. And just one final question, in terms of opportunities in the pipeline, it sounds like you are in the final stages with a Tier 1 city. I was just wondering if you could provide some extra context around any of the other opportunities that you’re seeing in the pipeline at this point.

Alan Stewart

Management

So this is Alan. I would say – yes – I don’t know that we want to comment too much on that other than to say that our pipeline is strong. Probably as strong as it’s ever been and we are seeing some opportunities that are even maybe more sort fused and have a shorter sales cycle and we’ll be talking about those in the future, but I don’t think we really want to comment too much more beyond that.

Zach Cummins

Analyst

Understood. Well, thanks for taking my questions and best of luck in Q3.

Alan Stewart

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Matt Pfau with William Blair. Please proceed with your question.

Matt Pfau

Analyst

Hey guys, nice quarter and thanks for taking my questions. Wanted to ask on some of the wins that you mentioned both at the end of the second quarter and subsequently, some – obviously, some big cities that are in that mix. Were these opportunities that were in the pipeline pre-COVID and then perhaps got delayed a bit. And then finally closed or were they put in during COVID. And then, I guess what – each one is probably different, but what sort of was maybe the tipping point that made these cities feel comfortable with executing the contract with you?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes. So maybe I’ll – this is Ralph. I’ll try to take that. And I think – I don’t think we want to comment specifically on any individual deal. I would say it’s a category of deals. Most of those deals were deals that we had been working on prior to COVID. I think you’re – know the company to know that we typically talk about our sales cycles being 12 months to 18 months. I would say that there was some greater than zero of things that kind of happened post-COVID. I think Alan alluded to the fact that we are seeing some banks that are happening on really, really short pieces because of this really significant uptick in gun violence, that we’re seeing. And hopefully, we’re going to be able to see a lot more about that in the next earnings calls, about things that we are seeing in terms of sales cycles and how they might be deferring for certain types of customers, but I think I would say it’s a mix at this point in time and leave it at that.

Matt Pfau

Analyst

Okay, got it. And then in terms of your Latin American opportunities, how are those progressing?

Alan Stewart

Management

So, this is Alan. We think the pipeline is strong as it’s ever been. We still do expect to have at least one Latin American booking before the end of the year and more to follow on that.

Matt Pfau

Analyst

Got it. Great, guys. That’s it for me. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it.

Alan Stewart

Management

Thank you

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Jeremy Hamblin with Craig-Hallum. Please, proceed with your question.

Ryan Hamblin

Analyst

Hey, guys, this Ryan on for Jeremy. You guys talked a little bit about inbound interest being a little frothy, I think you said. Can you talk about the level of interest you’ve seen and I know the environment is wildly different, but if you could maybe put in the context compared to last year at this time?

Ralph Clark

Management

That’s a really…

Alan Stewart

Management

This is Alan. I would say – yes, it’s a hard comparison to me in terms of – in the middle of COVID and the social unrest right now versus last year where neither of those were there, but I will say that if we were to take a snapshot and just take a like – a look at the pipeline, it’s stronger now than it was then. And I think gun violence, as Ralph mentioned in his earlier comments, is increasing at a rapid rate and I think that’s also one of the reasons that some of the opportunities are coming in. We say Fauci [ph] or whatever, but they’re coming in faster than some of us would have expected, but I don’t know, Ralph. Other thoughts there?

Ralph Clark

Management

Yes, I would use this opportunity just to remind folks the difficulty of like doing point to point comparisons is, and I say this every earnings call, our business is lumpy. And so I guess I would be a little bit reticent to try to make too much of a comparison for any one quarter this year versus a quarter last year. Just understanding that things happen lumpy and this was a fantastic quarter. We’re really pleased with it. And – but you don’t want to draw too much of a parallel or comparison to other quarters just because of the lumpiness of our business.

Ryan Hamblin

Analyst

Okay, thanks, guys. That’s helpful. And then I guess sort of housekeeping a little bit, you mentioned travel getting back to normal, I’m kind of curious with cases rising again, have you had to restrict travel or any sales efforts in particular places that have been hit hard by the sort of second wave that we’ve seen? And I guess, going into the back half of the year, how are you guys thinking about that doing with things on that front?

Alan Stewart

Management

So, this is Alan, and Ralph, feel free to ask me. Travel is not back to normal. So I think when we say getting closer to normal, it means that you know as opposed to the latter part of March and April where we had a travel ban; in May, we did allow our team to go out and do business necessary travel, which includes you know, some salesforce implementation, things like that, but some of the areas are still locked down not accessible. Certainly not like they were last year even into January, but we are working around that. Our customers are working around that. And notwithstanding things getting even worse than they are, we are able to conduct a significant amount of our meetings and do what we need to do and working around that. But there is things like we talked about Houston maybe this time we’ve talked about it, we haven’t yet been able to make substantial progress in Houston, because they still have a lot of problems down there that they’re dealing with. So our ability to work on that pilot program has been delayed. It’s not going away, but it’s been delayed. But that’s just an example of some of the limitations in travel.

Ryan Hamblin

Analyst

All right, great thanks, guys, and congrats on the quarter.

Ralph Clark

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

At this time, this concludes our question and answer session. If your question was not taken, you may contact ShotSpotter’s Investor Relations team by emailing ssti@gatewayir.com. I’d now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Clark for his closing remarks.

Ralph Clark

Management

Great. Yes. Thank you very much. Really, hope that everyone is doing well and keeping safe and really appreciate your support over the quarters and looking forward to chatting with you in the next 90 days or so when we’re reporting on Q3. Everyone take care. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Great. Yes. Thank you very much. Really, hope that everyone is doing well and keeping safe and really appreciate your support over the quarters and looking forward to chatting with you in the next 90 days or so when we’re reporting on Q3. Everyone take care. Thank you.