Stephan Von Schuckmann
Analyst · UBS.
Thanks for the question. Let me elaborate a bit how we see data centers and what organic growth opportunities we have with them. So I think, first of all, very important to mention that we have -- that our products are in data centers today. So in existing data centers that are up and running. And I'll say that for products that are both inside data centers and outside of data centers. And that's really broad. So inside data centers, we're talking about electrical protection. So we're talking about circuit protection, circuit breakers, fuses, content. Those are all existing products. Think of sensing, so pressure and temperature sensing, think of refrigerant leak detection and so on. Those are all existing products within data centers today. They are designed in hyperscalers that design those Sensata products into data centers that exist. The same applies to products outside of data centers or Sensata products outside of data centers. So we're talking about power and peak management, which is converters, inverters. We're talking about electrical protection, so like contactors, motor protection and so on. So these are all existing products inside of the data center. That's very important. So this is all organic -- organic growth if we grow with -- if data centers are growing, we grow with them if they're designed into the concept. Now beyond that, it's still within the range of organic growth. We're also designed into future data center concepts. So you have the hyperscalers that specify the Tier 3 components. And basically, once they specified and once they're approved, they're designed into these future concepts. So we're designed into future data concepts with certain hyperscalers. So not all, but with certain. And on the other hand, we're in deep discussions with others. So we obviously have the ambition within 2026 to try and get design into most hyperscaler concepts of the Googles and Amazons and Meta and so on. And now beyond that, we want to leverage our sensing capabilities to develop further unique products to broaden the product portfolio that we have today, everything that I've just mentioned, which is organic growth, we're going to broaden that, and that is related to own R&D. And you could see on some of the slides, that's, for example -- one example is flow sensors. So that's within our own development, and we're going to design a specific flow sensor for data centers and going to design that in the future data centers that we're currently discussing. So that's just -- that's it. And then we have -- within data centers, we have specific focus areas, like liquid cooling for data center racks where we feel we have a very competitive position. So overall, strong position with existing products, a lot of ideas for future products that we're currently working on, and that will give us ample opportunity to grow within the data center segment -- market.