Todd Clyde
Analyst · Tyson Bauer with KC Capital
Independently, yes. I think my -- where my concerns lie, is exactly what you highlighted, right? In terms of the scale. I think we have a very good product portfolio. I think that there are elements in the market in terms of dollar allocation and pressures that hospitals have and physician practices have that represent the lion's share of the issues that we face and have been very hard to kind of fight our way through. I -- as an example, Adam Peck was talking earlier about the ergo and we can get pretty good excitement on the ergo in a number of settings and those will go forward in a budget cycle. And then the hospital, because they've been stretching out, not buying equipment, and they're trying to forget where they go next, they end up allocating the budget dollars to a SPECT-CT camera, for example, okay? And so the camera then goes back in the budget cycle for the following year. Sometimes, that may go on for multiple cycles. Other times, we've been able to get it to bump in the following cycle. But when you play that out in your mind, that could be a 2-year cycle to get that camera in the door and sold, and it didn't have anything to do with the need and desire for the camera. Now I guess you could say it didn't have trumping value proposition over a SPECT CT, but it's -- we understand it wouldn't necessarily do that. So that's what concerns me quite a bit in terms of, can we drive enough scale to get back to the levels that we were at when I first took over and we did 85 cameras in the product business in 2008, I mean, that -- the profile, the profitability profile, the growth profile was just dramatically different than it has been today. And so -- but then when you balance and you say, "Okay, can you do it with someone else?" those are the alternatives that we're looking at. But I would say that the -- a potential buyer for that business, for example, or even maybe a partner on that side, if you stay in these traditional product lines, there's not a lot there, right? It's fairly anemic. Siemens, GE and Philips are spending their efforts and money on these much larger devices. They're kind of letting their cardiac lines just run their course and fall out. GE is probably the exception to that. So the ability to kind of find that effective partner that could scale it out is a little bit different. What I do believe in, Tyson, is that, that business unit can do better than it has been doing, okay, with more crisp, succinct execution. And that falls on us to make that happen. And -- but we don't want to run a business that's going to continue to just generate losses year over year over year, right? So we're grappling with all that, right? And the idea is how do you come out of this with a very clear, successful path that balances risk and reward with the shareholder? If it was really easy and there was this clear cut view, then we would have announced that already, right? There are some clear views, but they have larger risk elements associated with them. So those are the things that we're working through. Perhaps that was a little more than you were looking for. But we are considering what you described, but I just -- I -- my experience in the interactions we've had is the -- there aren't 20 groups lining up to do what you described.