David Fischel
Analyst · Lake Street Capital Markets. Please go ahead.
Sure. It's been asked sometimes in the past. I mean we feel like we're a tiny, tiny fish in a big ocean, and so whether the macro environment raises the tide a little bit, reduces the tide a little bit, to some extent, we're fighting our own fight, and it doesn't make a major difference for us. There's definitely some macro weakness, headwinds in China. There are kind of macro factors there that are making it difficult, not just for us, but we know all the other capital equipment companies. They have similar challenges now, and no one knows exactly when that's going to turn. But hopefully, by the time we are getting approval for the full ecosystem of robot catheter mapping system in China, it will be a better macro environment there. Despite that -- and again, even in bad macro environments, there still is always some opportunities, some purchasing. So we definitely have a pipeline of customers, real engaged customers, also in China. And in Europe and the U.S., I think that it's -- I don't sense any major changes to the overall environment. Since we started rebuilding a capital sales capability in 2020, it has been overall a macro headwind environment, right? We had the chaos of COVID, the chaos of personnel challenges where hospitals didn't have nurses, didn't have techs, were spending huge amounts to try to recruit and hire people just to run their daily operations. The macroeconomic environment hasn't been the easiest environment. So I think that's been kind of an overarching kind of reality since we restarted capital sales four years ago. And obviously, we've been able to make some headway despite that. So I think kind of we don't see things being particularly different, neither on the negative or the positive. If the environment changes where it's a macro tailwind environment, that will be awesome, but we're not betting on that. And to some extent, it's the things that we do in-house to make the -- to being the small fish in a very, very big ocean, becoming a stronger fish on our own that, to some extent, changes everything irrespective of whether the tides go up a few feet or down a few feet.