Frederick A. Henderson
Analyst · the DRI opportunities that you guys have been looking at. And does that announcement from BlueScope North Star change at all the expectations you outlined earlier in the year, for there being a sort of 4 million to 6 million ton per annum DRI opportunity in North America
I would say a very -- first, first point, that the use of DRI is going to be very specific to the firm or the mill. One of the things I've learned from understanding this is it's all a function of logistics, not all a function, but a substantial function of logistics, nat gas availability and then the question of ore versus scrap, and what your views are over time and how much you want to diversify. I wasn't surprised in North Star BlueScope's decision. I think it, yes, it would reduce the 4 million to 6 million, I mean, because they were actively looking at it. So as we look -- they weren't necessarily actively looking at it with us, but they were actively looking at whether or not they might use it. And so I think it would, on balance, reduce that -- the 4 million to 6 million opportunity. But what I've learned from dialogue with various different steel companies on the subject is it depends on their firm-specific procurement, and it really depends on scrap, scrap logistics and their ability to source ore competitively -- high-quality ore in order to do the DRI. So I do think that, that reduces the opportunity over time, but I don't think it means there won't be more capacity built. I do think, frankly, the fundamentals of low-cost gas, number one, and number two, what's interesting is recently, I don't -- you don't know if this is going to continue, but there's been a pretty significant gap created between ore prices and scrap prices. Shows you that if you can diversify, if you can hedge yourself, the DRI can provide a pretty powerful benefit to you as a steelmaker. So we remain positive. Interestingly, we did receive in the quarter the private letter ruling on DRI. So that it just would generate qualifying income, which we were encouraged by. So at this point, Lisa advises me there are no more questions. Again, we'd like to thank everybody for your interest in SunCoke Energy, for your support and for your ownership of our shares and coverage of our company and look forward to talking to you soon. Thank you.