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Talos Energy Inc. (TALO)

Q3 2008 Earnings Call· Wed, Nov 5, 2008

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Erin and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Stone Energy third quarter 2008 earnings conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator instructions) I would now like to turn the call over to your host, Mr. David Welch.

David Welch

Management

Thank you very much, Erin. Hello everyone and welcome to our third quarter conference call. Joining us this afternoon is Ken Beer, our Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. First, Ken will read the forward-looking statement warning and then briefly walk you through the financials. Then I'll come back and make a few general comments about the quarter and the future. Following that, we'd be happy to take your questions. Ken?

Ken Beer

Management

Thank you, Dave. Let me start with the forward-looking statement. In this conference call, we may make forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934. These forward-looking statements are subject to all the risks and uncertainties normally incident to the exploration for and development, production and sale of oil and natural gas. We urge you to read our 2007 annual report on Form 10-K for a discussion of the risks that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those in any forward-looking statements we may make today. In addition, in this call we may refer to financial measures that may be deemed to be non-GAAP financial measures as defined under the exchange act. Please refer to the press release we issued yesterday, which is posted on our web site for a reconciliation of the differences between the financial measures and the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures. Rather than go through the financials in great detail, I'll assume everyone has seen the press release and the attached financials. This was a very unusual quarter with a lot of moving parts. The biggest news item of the quarter was obviously the Bois d'Arc acquisition on August 28. A $1.65 billion transaction which was paid for using $935 million in cash and the remainder which was $11.3 million SGY shares valued at $63 per share at the signing date in late April. The second biggest news item was the double hurricane impact especially on production. Unfortunately, due to the September hurricane shut-ins, the Bois d'Arc had minimal impact on production and minimal impact on the quarterly income statement. However, the impact on the balance sheet was significant, which I will walk through shortly. Our quarterly net income totaled around $34.1…

David Welch

Management

Okay, thank you very much, Ken. As you’ve heard through the numbers, this was a very eventful quarter for Stone as we completed the merger with Bois d’Arc, August 28. You saw the price of hydrocarbon is roughly cut in half. We’re hit with two hurricanes and saw the financial markets in turmoil. So how do these events balance out for the future of Stone? Here’s a few comments on each of these happenings. First, the Bois d’Arc merger. The merger increased our production reserves by over 50% and importantly gave us a drilling inventory of five to six years. As well, it created the participation of agreement with Gary Blackie and several members of his exploration team where we have the future option to participate for 50% on future exploration prospects they generate. We paid full value for these reserves and opportunity that they will provide the cash flow and the time bridge to enable us to achieve larger successes in the deep water and price advantaged onshore gas resource plays. Before the transaction closed, Bois d’Arc went from a debt position of owing about $56 million to a positive cash position of $20 million. In addition during this time, Stone grew cash from about $500 million at the time of the merger agreement to over $600 million at the time of closing. So when we closed the merger, we still had a very manageable debt to total capitalization ratio of 35% and that 35% excludes the goodwill. If you were to include that, we’d be down around 31%. We presently retained about $230 million of unused liquidity by our revolver. We also have about 75% of the projected Bois d’Arc volumes hedged through the end of 2009 and we’re at presently attractive prices. The exact hedges are shown…

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions) Your first question comes from the line of Dave Kistler from Simmons & Company. Your line is open. Dave Kistler – Simmons & Company: Good afternoon guys.

David Welch

Management

Hi, good afternoon. Dave Kistler – Simmons & Company: Real quickly, you discussed a production exit rate of about 275 million a day. Can we just for the purposes of trying to get a handle on what CapEx might look like, run that forward through ’09 or do you think you’ll have incremental really redevelopment programs that can drive that materially higher?

Ken Beer

Management

This is Ken. Again, the exit of 275 is probably a pretty good starting point to look at ’09. Obviously we have not poured [ph] our budget, but in terms of trying to get incremental production on top of the 275, obviously we are looking to do that. But in terms of a starting point looking ahead to ’09, that is I think a pretty appropriate starting point and as we forward pour [ph] our budget and come out with guidance, full guidance on 2009, we’ll certainly adjust from that exit rate. Dave Kistler – Simmons & Company: Okay, and kind of building on that question a little bit, with Ewing Bank 305 where you had a drilling program in place, if I look at the results of Ship Shoal 113 and South Timbalier 100, can I expect to see a drilling program applied there and can you kind of walk me through the timing of that?

David Welch

Management

Well, the Ewing 305 program is nearing completion. That’s added about 40 million cubic feet a day to that program. On Main Pass 74, is that one you’re asking about David? Dave Kistler – Simmons & Company: Really Ship Shoal and South Timbalier, I’m just trying to think about when the development process might take place for those and how to think about the production we just spoke about and then when to think about where we could see production coming here?

David Welch

Management

Yes those are really right now tangled up in our budget process and as you can imagine we’re trying to make the trade-off between exploration and development drilling and it’s a little premature for us to give you any real insight into that. Dave Kistler – Simmons & Company: Okay, no problem, may be something a little bit closer to the right in front of you, in terms of Amberjack and time to actually tied that back into pipelines, so you don’t suffer variability of a barging situation if we experience regular winter weather.

David Welch

Management

Yes, we are seeing a little weather impact already in the barging and obviously we’d like to get this back on production as quickly as we can. That Amberjack production goes over the South Pass 49 platform and the riser going to shore from there, which I believe is a Chevron riser, has been parted by the storm. We have not yet been over to inspect our riser either. It’s possible that we may have another issue there, but hopefully not. But at any rate, we’re going to just have to work with Chevron to get them to do that as quickly as we can and there’s no forecast that that’s going to be done within the next couple of weeks. It’s probably going to be months rather than weeks I would guess.

Ken Beer

Management

Yes, I think that is correct. Again as you can appreciate David, a lot of the equipment, inspection equipment, has been in very high demand in that some equipment that we just now – both in demand as well as there’d been some weather issues even getting equipment to different spots throughout the Gulf. In that scenario, obviously it's very important to us and so we’re trying to get as much information on both the cost and timing of the downstream pipeline repairs. But in the Interim, our operations guys to their credit jumped on the concept of barging. We did spend some incremental dollars a couple years ago when we bought Amberjack and put in the facilities to allow for barging and this is obviously now coming back to help us out and certainly there will be weather variability but at least we’ve got production flowing out of one of the more important properties we own. Dave Kistler – Simmons & Company: Great, and then last question, I will hop off. Looking at the Bois d’Arc acquisition and given that you guys went through a formal reserve audit earlier this year, I’m imagining we can expect to see the same thing now with the integrated Bois d’Arc, but I’m just trying to get a handle on timing around that in terms of when we’d be seeing that and will you guys be breaking out 2P and 3P as well.

David Welch

Management

You’ll see that around the, just at the [ph] first of the year. Generally we’ll do that just as quickly as Neville and Sue [ph] who does our third-party work can get to it, typically late January or February timeframe. And yes, we will include our 2P and our 3P reserves.

Ken Beer

Management

And clearly we’ll incorporate all of the Bois d’Arc properties as well, so all will be under the same umbrella. Dave Kistler – Simmons & Company: Great, thanks so much guys. Appreciate the clarifications.

Ken Beer

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Pavel Molchanov from Raymond James. Your line is open. Pavel Molchanov – Raymond James: Hi, good afternoon guys. Quick question about a couple of cost items. LOE following the fourth quarter as your production run rate normalizes, any thoughts on what your LOE run rate should be?

Ken Beer

Management

Yes, this is Ken. If you reverse engineer everything and look at kind of the dollars that we are expecting might come in to the LOE line in the fourth quarter because of hurricane repairs and you use not the average for the quarter but rather the exit for the quarter, I think you’d come up with about a $2 per Mcf number. I mean I think that’s the reverse Math. And once similar to production, that’s probably not a bad starting point. Once again, we haven’t poured [ph] budget, we don’t have guidance or estimates out there, but at least that’s maybe an unfiltered number that you could look at the exit of the fourth quarter. Pavel Molchanov – Raymond James: Absolutely, and then same question for DD&A, should we assume $5 plus number for 2009 as well?

Ken Beer

Management

Yes, at least for now that is the case. Again, through the accounting standards, we end up with obviously a DD&A rate much higher than what we had before. We were at about $4 and obviously now we’re at or above the $5 number and a lot has to do with bringing the Bois d'Arc properties in and as we calculate the DD&A rate, we not only look at the acquisition cost but also fully burden it with all the future development cost. And so we were effectively taking a $4 number, averaging it was a $6 number with all the future cost coming up with the DD&A rate of about $5 plus. So the answer is yes going forward, I think that’s probably the place to start. Pavel Molchanov – Raymond James: That’s helpful. And just lastly, housekeeping item. Can you give us your share count as of September 30?

Ken Beer

Management

Just under 40 million shares. We’ll have that in the 10-Q to be filed, but if you use 40 million you’ll be right at it. Pavel Molchanov – Raymond James: Great. Thanks very much.

Ken Beer

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions) Your next question comes from the line of Nicholas Pope from JP Morgan. Your line is open. Nicholas Pope – JP Morgan: Good afternoon guys.

David Welch

Management

Hey, Nick. Nicholas Pope – JP Morgan: A couple of quick questions, could you break out the working interest, specifically on the Ewing Bank 305 but then on the other wells you’ve drilled, Main Pass, Ship Shoal, kind of what the (inaudible)?

David Welch

Management

Ewing 305, we’re 100% on that one. Ken, do you have the backed interested in [ph]?

Ken Beer

Management

Yes. The numbers that we have put out are net numbers. For the most part, the Bois d'Arc properties that came in are 100%; Main Pass is 74%, I think it's 100%. So, the numbers that we put in the release are the net numbers as well. Nicholas Pope – JP Morgan: Okay. And then, I guess with the rigs – am I right, you’re drilling with four rigs right now and I guess – did you say yes?

Ken Beer

Management

Yes. We’ve got two to three rigs right now. We’re also non-opportunity, so that will be the fourth. So looking at the rig schedule, we’re about to bring two rigs on and that one rig goes somewhere right in the midst of going from three to four with also a non-op at the storage [ph] prospect being drilled and that's excluding onshore obviously. Nicholas Pope – JP Morgan: The terms like the bigger potential wells, the deep shelf, deep water, what is, I guess, kind of – what can we look forward to in the next couple of months?

David Welch

Management

Yes. There are several wells that we hope to get going in 2009. The storage [ph] well that we have, we only have a 10% interest in that. But that’s a deep water prospect that is currently drilling. We have an interest in a prospect called La Pesada which is kind of a deep shelf well that’s actually projected back onshore in South Louisiana and then we hope to and believe that our partners will be drilling a couple of deep water wells in 2009. Nicholas Pope – JP Morgan: All right. Do you foresee, with some of the hurricane damages, as you continue to make assessments, is there a potential that you could have some more write-downs in terms of reserves? Ken, what’s at risk at this point?

David Welch

Management

I think we've got a pretty good handle on the post-hurricane reserves and I would not anticipate any material revisions based on the storms.

Ken Beer

Management

Nick, just as Dave indicated, really except for that one platform, the other five platforms were virtually idle wells, so there was almost no – minimal less than a half – really almost no reserves associated with five out of the six and I think we have indicated in the press release – earlier press release that the sixth well that did go down and was on production had reserves of around 2 Bcfe. Nicholas Pope – JP Morgan: And just to clarify, it’s Vermillion 122, is that right?

Ken Beer

Management

Yes, correct. Nicholas Pope – JP Morgan: Okay. Thanks guys.

David Welch

Management

Thank you, Nick.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Tom Novak from Merrill Lynch. Your line is open. Tom Novak – Merrill Lynch: Hi. Good afternoon.

David Welch

Management

Hi, Tom. Tom Novak – Merrill Lynch: Just regarding the borrowing base redetermination, can you say what’s the prior price decks were used to come to the $700 million? And the second question is do you have any sense if the banks are going to be using materially lower price decks going forward to arrive at the borrowing base?

Ken Beer

Management

Yes, Tom. It’s Ken. As you know, the banks use their own price decks and it rarely is the current. It tends not to be the current price but rather the price that they are comfortable with on a long-term basis. Suffice to say that the $700 million facility, even though it was put in place in the summer, certainly did not anticipate oil prices going to $100. The banks have their own price deck but I think it’s fair to suggest that the drop from whatever price deck they were using in the summer versus what they would be using for the November redetermination is not nearly the drop that we saw in the absolute price from $140 down to $65. So certainly, there is probably some difference, but I think the difference is significantly muted by their original starting point which was not even anywhere close to $100 plus oil price that we experienced in the summer. Tom Novak – Merrill Lynch: Okay, so given they're not cutting their price deck by 50%, it sounds like you still expect a reasonable reduction of borrowing base redetermination post this redetermination?

Ken Beer

Management

, : Tom Novak – Merrill Lynch: Great, okay, thanks a lot.

Ken Beer

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions in queue.

David Welch

Management

Okay. Thank you very much, Erin and thank you everyone for joining our call.

Ken Beer

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.