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TransDigm Group Incorporated (TDG)

Q1 2015 Earnings Call· Tue, Jan 27, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen and welcome to the quarter one 2014 TransDigm Group Incorporated earnings conference call. My name is Sally and I will be your operator for today. At this time all participants are in listen-only mode. We will conduct a question-and-answer session towards the end of the conference. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this call is being recorded for replay purposes. I would now like to turn the call over to Liza Sabol from Investor Relations. Please proceed.

Liza Sabol

Analyst

Thank you. I would like to thank you all that have called in today and welcome you to TransDigm's fiscal 2015 first quarter earnings conference call. With me on the call this morning are TransDigm's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Nick Howley, Chief Operating Officers, Bob Henderson and Kevin Stein and our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Greg Rufus. A replay of today's broadcast will be available for the next two weeks. Replay information is contained in this morning's press release and on our website at transdigm.com. Before we begin, the company would like to remind you that the statements made during this call, which are not historical in fact, are forward-looking statements. For further information about important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements, please refer to the company's latest filings with the SEC. These filings are available through the Investors section of our website or at sec.gov. The company would also like to advise you that during the course of the call, we will be referring to EBITDA, specifically EBITDA As Defined, adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share, all of which are non-GAAP financial measures. Please see the tables and related footnotes in the earnings release for a presentation of the most directly comparable GAAP measures and a reconciliation of EBITDA and EBITDA As Defined, adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share to those measures. With that, let me now turn the call over to Nick.

Nick Howley

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Good morning and thanks again to everyone for calling. As usual, today, I will first review our consistent business strategy then I will go through our financial performance and some market summary for Q1 2015 and then just a few comments on our guidance for the full year. To restate, we believe our business model is unique in the industry, both in its consistency and its ability to sustain and create intrinsic shareholder value through all phases of the cycle. To summarize a few of the reasons why we believe this, about 90% of our net sales are generated by proprietary engineered products and around three-quarters of our net sales come from products for which we believe we are the sole source provider. Over half of our revenues and a much higher percent of our EBITDA come from aftermarket sales. Aftermarket revenues have historically produced a higher gross margin and have provided relative stability through the downturns. Because of our uniquely high EBITDA margins and relatively low capital expenditures, TransDigm has, year in, year out, generated very strong free cash flow. This gives us a lot of operating and capital structure flexibility. We follow a very consistent long-term strategy. First, we own and operate proprietary aerospace businesses with significant aftermarket content. Second, we have a simple, well-proven, value-based operating strategy focused around our three value driver concept. Third, we maintain a decentralized organization structure and a unique compensation system with executives and senior management who think, act and are paid like owners. Fourth, we acquire proprietary aerospace businesses with significant aftermarket content where we see a clear path to PE-like returns. And lastly, we view our capital structure and capital allocation as another means to create shareholder value. To reiterate, we basically have four alternatives for capital allocations. Our priorities…

Greg Rufus

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Okay. Thanks, Nick. Good morning. As we have said in the past and just to remind you again, all of my comments are on a GAAP reported basis, where Nick's comments were mostly on a pro forma basis. Sometimes, we do have minor differences in our explanations. As disclosed in this morning's press release, our first quarter sales were $587 million and 11% greater than the prior year. Our organic sales were 3% higher than last year, driven by growth in commercial aftermarket and commercial OEM offset with a modest decline in GAAP defense sales. Our first quarter gross profit was $321 million, an increase of 13% over the prior year. The reported gross profit margin of 54.7% was one margin point higher than the prior year. A decrease in non-operating acquisition related cost versus the prior year contributed to the higher reported gross margin. Margins in the current quarter were also negatively impacted by approximately two margin points due to acquisition mix from Airborne and EME. In other words, excluding all acquisition activity, our gross profit margin in the remaining business versus the prior year quarter improved approximately two margin points. The base businesses continued to expand margins as a result of the strength of our proprietary products and continually improving our cost structure. Selling and administrative expenses were 11.5% of sales for the current quarter compared to 10.8% in the prior year. The current quarter was running a little higher than the prior period, primarily due to higher run rate as a percent of sales from our recent acquisitions. Interest expense was $99 million, an increase of approximately $18 million or 23% versus the prior-year quarter. This is a result of an increase in the weighted average total debt to $7.5 billion in the current quarter versus $5.7…

Liza Sabol

Analyst

Thank you, Greg. Operator, we are now ready to open the line.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. The first question comes from the line of Robert Stallard from the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert.

Robert Stallard

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Thanks very much. Good morning.

Greg Rufus

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Good morning.

Nick Howley

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Hi, Rob.

Robert Stallard

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Nick, I was wondering if we could kickoff with your thoughts on the debt market here, whether you are seeing any opportunities to raise debt at more attractive rates than what you have seen in recent history? And then also your follow-on from that, your thoughts on deploying that as a special dividend?

Nick Howley

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Yes. The debt market first. As I think you know, the recent history, the last round of financing we raised what was that? Nine months ago or something?

Greg Rufus

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

It was back in June.

Nick Howley

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Yes. I mean that was pretty darned attractive rates. I think those, particularly the bonds, are selling actually at just a hair under par, which would tell me that the rates are very, very, very close to what they are now. That market got a little bumpy but I think it's reasonably stable now. So I think if we went out today, we could raise money today. I don't know what tomorrow would be, but I think if we went out today we could probably raise money at very comparable rates to what we did six or nine months ago. Let me just presume that we had roughly the same leverage levels. As far as capital deployment, I think we will address that as the year proceeds. We have a fair amount of acquisition, I would say, activity we are working on and we probably will let them play out a little bit before we make a decision on capital allocation.

Robert Stallard

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Great and then as a follow up, you mentioned about some issues in the distribution channel in the aerospace aftermarket. I was wondering if you could elaborate on what you think might be going on there?

Nick Howley

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

I think they probably got a little held in terms of the ordering at the end of last year. You know that we ran 15% and 18%. We also moved a few distributors around which might have influenced it a little bit. I don't take a whole lot from that. But I just thought it was worthwhile data point to let people know.

Robert Stallard

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Okay. That's great. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead.

Gautam Khanna

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

Yes. Thank you. Good morning.

Greg Rufus

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

Good morning.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

Good morning.

Gautam Khanna

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

I just wanted to ask if you could elaborate on the defense bookings comment. You mentioned the two parachute orders and what was the trend if you X that out? Was it a book-to-bill of around one? Or any comment there?

Nick Howley

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

I don't remember the book. There's a couple of things. If you want to normalize it, if you go into the previous first quarter, we had some of those big Tarian shipments, if you remember them. So you almost have to normalize them both out and I don't think if you normalize both of those, I don't think the organic growth is that much different, whether you put it in or take it out on sales, on revenues. On the bookings, the big difference is if you may or may not recall, the first quarter of last year, things looked pretty ugly in the parachute business. But that has really started the book up. We have got some quite big orders dropped in. We have some more just cooking away. So that business is whereas we were a bit concerned six months into it, we are starting to feel significantly better now about it. I hope that answers [ph] your question.

Gautam Khanna

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

Okay.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

So I think when you normalize the revenues, the answer doesn't change a whole lot. If you normalize it for things in both quarters.

Gautam Khanna

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

Okay and could you give us -- you mentioned this pipeline of opportunities being active in the M&A pipeline? Can you give us some sense for what kind of things you were seeing international versus domestic whether you are seeing more in defense or commercial and relative sizes? Any way to kind of?

Nick Howley

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

I would say, the sizes are roughly comparable to what we have seen before, though I have to say we have seen a few of little more sizable. I don't mean in the $3 billion, $4 billion range, but a little more sizable. If you pull those couple out, the rest are more in the normal kind of things we see. We clearly continue to see more European activity than we have in the past. And I would say most of what we are looking at, not all but most, is commercial rather military.

Gautam Khanna

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

Okay and are most of these privates? Or are they --

Nick Howley

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

Range, the usual range of suspects. Private, strategic and PE

Gautam Khanna

Analyst · Gautam Khanna from Cowen and Co. Go ahead

Okay. Thanks a lot. I will get back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Robert Spingarn from Credit Suisse. Go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert Spingarn from Credit Suisse. Go ahead

Hi, good morning. This is actually Joe, on for Rob. Thanks for taking the question. Nick, I wanted to ask on BizJet OE and recognizing it is a small part of commercial OE but what's driving that big uptick in BizJet OE? Are there any particular platforms where you are seeing that strength?

Nick Howley

Analyst · Robert Spingarn from Credit Suisse. Go ahead

First of all, it is pretty broadly distributed across the platforms. I wouldn't draw much from that, other than it is just timing. You know, as everybody knows, the bigger, more expensive ones are doing a little better than the lower priced ones and we are reasonably represented in that. But I don't mean to imply anything as far as the production rate forecast for business jet OEM. I think it is just timing, just when the shipments happen to fall.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Robert Spingarn from Credit Suisse. Go ahead

Okay. Got it. That's very helpful. Thank you. I will jump back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah.

Noah Poponak

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

Hi. Good morning, everyone.

Greg Rufus

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

Good morning.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

Good morning.

Noah Poponak

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

I wondered if you could maybe help us out with how aftermarket averages something greater than 10% the rest of the year to get to your full-year guidance, just because the quarter at 5% and it seemed like end market conditions were reasonably strong in the quarter. I know you pointed out the distributor item but even if I adjust for that.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

Yes. That's not a lot.

Noah Poponak

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

Not a lot. So help us out with what changes in that growth rate through the rest of the year?

Nick Howley

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

I believe, Noah, that's a leading question. I believe to make it through the year, we will have to see pickup in the back-half of the year, to state the obvious.

Noah Poponak

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

So what changes in the actual end market? Because the comps get more difficult. It doesn't seem like traffic would accelerate. IT seems like you would almost have to be counting on airline inventory restocking or some deferred maintenance opening up or something else idiosyncratic to the company.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

I would say, as I said, if you look at the balance of the year, if I had a handy cap or guidance, I am going to take our guidance on EBITDA, which all of you know is the bps guidance too, I would say there's probably some uncertainty around the commercial aftermarket. Clearly, it has to pickup in the second half of the year. We were sort of halfway through the year last year with the same concern and then in the last six months we got pretty strong. I am not prepared at this point to say that the numbers we have been using are not good. I think there is some reasonable chance. But it clearly is a little bit of a stretch each quarter that goes by. On the other hand I think the defense, we probably could be conservative and I think we could be a little conservative on the margins. So sort of like the putting them all in the stew, it looks to me like there's probably a little more up and down at this point in the guidance. But I can't tell you I am absolutely sure about one segment versus the other, but hopefully you have got the sense.

Noah Poponak

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

Okay and then maybe following on that, Nick, I wondered if you might provide your view on what you think lower oil means for the industry? It would seem like that could potentially help the aftermarket, but it sounds like others are saying, at least, that it's not quite yet? And it seems like it could potentially stretch out the replacement decision for an airline. Anything you are already hearing and seeing or anything you think could happen as a result?

Nick Howley

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

I think, Noah, probably the same things you hear and see and surmise. First I would say, I think the oil prices have to stay down for a longer period of time to change anyone's behavior substantively. They have got to work out through the hedges or buy them out or something. And I don't think this is enough time to change people's thought patterns or behavior patterns. Now if it does, there are two schools of thought. As you know, on the one hand, if you fly all planes all the planes longer, that's better for the aftermarket. If you pull them out of the desert or if you keep flying them more hours, which you would tend to do, if you have lower prices, that's good. On the other hand, I will say, historically if fuel prices go down, then the airlines get profitable. Right or wrong, historically, when they make money, they start buying new airplanes. So that's sort of the counterbalance. At this point, I don't know how to call that, other than to say, it's something we have got to watch closely. But I suspect it takes a longer period of time for anyone to change their thought pattern.

Noah Poponak

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

So you haven't actually yet seen any real behavioral change?

Nick Howley

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

No. We have not.

Noah Poponak

Analyst · Noah Poponak from Goldman Sachs. Go ahead, Noah

Okay. All right. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir.

Lou Taylor

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

Yes. Hi. This is actually Lou, on for Myles. How are you guys doing?

Greg Rufus

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

Okay.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

Good.

Lou Taylor

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

Just a quick question. The cash flow was very strong in the quarter. Anything in particular to drive that? It's not usually the strongest quarter.

Greg Rufus

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

You are right. In the first quarter, first our quarter effectively ended December 25 and we didn't have any principal and paid almost no income taxes. So it was timing. That's why in my comments, I said we still expect to get the same amount by the end of the year because we have little bit of outflow for those payments in the second quarter.

Lou Taylor

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

I know it looked like working capital was a boost as well?

Greg Rufus

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

Well, I don't know what you mean when you say a boost. Can you expand on that?

Lou Taylor

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

It was $65 million. Prior years it was more of a use of cash.

Greg Rufus

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

Okay. Well, when I look at the working capital, when I look at operating, I look more at my DSOs and my inventory turns and they were well behaved versus our expectations. Sometimes when you look at the GAAP numbers it can get distorted with some acquisition accounting.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

The big numbers, Greg, are the timing.

Greg Rufus

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

The timing.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

So you didn't have an interest payment there.

Greg Rufus

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

That's right. There was a cutoff of it.

Lou Taylor

Analyst · Myles Walton from Deutsche Bank. Go ahead, sir

Perfect. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken.

Ken Herbert

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

Hi. Good morning.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

Good morning.

Ken Herbert

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

I wanted to first ask about Airborne and EME. It's been over a year for Airborne and almost a year for EME. Are these following sort of a trajectory in terms of margin improvement as you expected? Or is it maybe a little slower than expected, considering still sort of a two point of gross margin impact we saw from acquisition? Did I get it? It's all the related expenses, but how are these tracking relative to your expectations?

Nick Howley

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

Let me deal with them in two pieces. Airborne first. As you probably know, for the first year of ownership, Airborne was, frankly the revenues and bookings were lower than we expected and concurrently the EBITDA was little lower. However in 2015, it's starting off well. Our present expectation is that for this year, it will be at or above our expectations at the time we bought it. I remind you that both Airborne and EME, as we said when we bought them, we sort of had to buy these right. These are not businesses that are going to get the typical TransDigm margins. They will move up. And they are moving up, but they won't get to those kind of margins. We bought them at substantially below the margins we typically buy things. But we saw plenty value there. EME is again moving up. We bought that at a sub-20 or significantly kind of EBITDA margin. That is moving up reasonably nicely. Again it will never get up to full year 50%, but it's moving up significantly. It's a small business. So it's never going to move the average much. Dollar wise, it's also going to be impacted by the exchange rate situation. It's a Euro business. So the actually dollars have been knocked down on the conversion, though the margin is moving up reasonably well.

Ken Herbert

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

Okay. That's helpful.

Nick Howley

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

That was never going to move anything. That's never going to move anything.

Ken Herbert

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

Yes. It's a smaller deal. I guess, with EME in particular, being obviously based in Europe and in Germany, in particular, currency risk aside, because who knows about that, but has your experience with that acquisition changed your appetite at all for European transactions? Maybe you opened it up a little bit? Or is there anything we could infer from just your experience now almost a year in with EME that might alter your thinking as you review European --

Nick Howley

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

We feel okay about that. I think we feel okay about it. We see acquisitions with the right value proposition. We feel fine about them. I would remind you, we have a business in Belgium. We have a business in Germany now. We have a couple of businesses in U.K. that were operating. So we have, I would say in general, not 100%, but mostly our experiences has been positive.

Ken Herbert

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

Okay. That's good. And then just finally, just to follow up on the commercial aftermarket discussion. To your comment, Nick, that in an environment like this when the airlines have better visibility on profit, you are maybe not seeing utilization change in terms of the older aircraft or pulling them out of the desert or anything. But does their willingness to spend on new aircraft translate to the aftermarket environment either in terms of, maybe they might take a different approach, the airlines, different approach to their own working capital, their own inventory levels, their safety stocks, et cetera? Do you expect, perhaps, to see that as we go through the year, assuming ongoing lower crude prices?

Nick Howley

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

Typically, we have. Typically that's what happens, as you know. When they start to be profitable and they get money, they start buying more. Start buying more everything, airplanes, parts, everything. I can't say we have seen it yet, but that would be a not atypical pattern. As I said before, I don't think this situation of these low significant drop in fuel prices has been in there long enough that it's changing people's behavior yet.

Ken Herbert

Analyst · Ken Herbert from Canaccord. Go ahead, Ken

Okay. All right. I appreciate it. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Michael Ciarmoli from KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir.

Michael Ciarmoli

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

Hi. Good morning, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Nick, maybe just back on defense. It clearly sounds like you have got some, the orders you were waiting for on the Airborne side and I am just curious, were you guys expecting those orders to come in when you laid out your initial guidance? I know you talked, maybe there was potential upside to defense this year, but I am trying to get a sense of whether or not the Airborne order flow was baked into this year's outlook.

Nick Howley

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

We definitely had an increase in this year's outlook for Airborne. We expected a pickup.

Michael Ciarmoli

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

Okay.

Nick Howley

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

And at least first, one quarter end, it's looking quite strong and the pipeline looks strong.

Michael Ciarmoli

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

Okay.

Nick Howley

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

I don't want to start to pull out our full year's guidance between operating units, but it surely makes us feel better rather than worse.

Michael Ciarmoli

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

Sure and then what about just broad commentary about your remaining traditional military aftermarket activity? Are you seeing any movement there? I know there are some other companies expecting aftermarket to begin picking up here. Are you seeing any changes in purchasing pattern from the DoD or any discernible trends?

Nick Howley

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

I honestly can't say we have. I also am getting a little resistant to predict this. The only thing I can say with certainty is every time I tried it, it was wrong. By the way, we are on a little on the upside, thank God, but I can't say. It's mixed. If you look across our operating units, it's mixed.

Michael Ciarmoli

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

Okay.

Nick Howley

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

I don't know that I can give you a clear pattern or region for that. Other than in the parachute business, we know we had some big international orders [indiscernible].

Michael Ciarmoli

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

Okay. That's fair and last one. I don't know if you have color on this, but now that the A350 has been delivered, any kind of change in the view there on initial provisioning? I know there probably aren't too many airlines getting that platform this year, but any color on that? Could that be additive to this year or is that more going to be a --

Nick Howley

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

Yes, Michael, we are not figuring on any. Could it be? Yes, yes, maybe.

Michael Ciarmoli

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

Okay.

Nick Howley

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

But we are not figuring it in our guidance or numbers. We are not figuring.

Michael Ciarmoli

Analyst · KeyBanc. Go ahead, sir

Okay. Perfect. That's all I had. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from Joe Nadol from JPMorgan. Go ahead, Joe.

Joe Nadol

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead, Joe

Hi. Good morning.

Nick Howley

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead, Joe

Good morning, Joe.

Greg Rufus

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead, Joe

Good morning.

Joe Nadol

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead, Joe

I had a question. You mentioned that you didn't buy back any stock in the quarter and the last few quarters you have been buying back some stock. What caused you to hold back in the quarter?

Nick Howley

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead, Joe

What caused it? I don't know anything particular. We sort of bought up what we planned to buy up and we reauthorize more, but we just decided not to do it. I don't know that there's -- I wouldn't take too much out of that. But we bought quite about 900,000 or so shares.

Greg Rufus

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead, Joe

More unusual if we bought.

Nick Howley

Analyst · JPMorgan. Go ahead, Joe

Yes. It was more unusual if we bought them. We didn't buy. So we sort of bought up about what we had in mind to buy and we stopped.

Operator

Operator

Joe's line has disconnected.

Nick Howley

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Is that the end? We cut everybody off?

Liza Sabol

Analyst

Operator?

Operator

Operator

No, it's only Joe's line.

Nick Howley

Analyst · the Royal Bank of Canada. Go ahead, Robert

Okay. So we lost him.

Operator

Operator

Liza Sabol

Analyst

Okay. If there are no further questions, we thank you all for calling in today and look for our 10-Q to be filed on Friday, as Greg mentioned. Thank you.