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TransDigm Group Incorporated (TDG)

Q2 2017 Earnings Call· Tue, May 9, 2017

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the TransDigm Group Incorporated Second-Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will be given at that time. As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Liza Sabol, Investor Relations. Ma'am, you may begin.

Liza Sabol - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Thank you. I'd like to thank all of you for calling in today and welcome you to TransDigm's fiscal 2017 second-quarter earnings conference call. With me on the call this morning are TransDigm's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Nick Howley; President and Chief Operating Officer, Kevin Stein; and Chief Financial Officer, Terry Paradie. A replay of today's broadcast will be available for the next two weeks and details are contained in this morning's press release on our website at transdigm.com. Before we begin, we would like to remind you that statements made during this call, which are not historical in fact, are forward-looking statements. For further information about important factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied in the forward-looking statements, please refer to the company's latest filings with the SEC, available through the Investors section of our website or at sec.gov. We'd also like to advise you that during the course of the call, we will be referring to EBITDA, specifically EBITDA As Defined, adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share, all of which are non-GAAP financial measures. Please see the tables and related footnotes in the earnings release or a presentation of the most directly comparable GAAP measures and a reconciliation of EBITDA, EBITDA As Defined, adjusted net income and adjusted earnings per share to those measures. With that, now, let me turn the call over to Nick.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Good morning. Thanks to all of you for calling in. Today, I'll start off as always with comments about our consistent strategy. Then, I'd like to give a little more color on commercial aftermarket business and few other topics relating to Q2. Then, I'll give a quick summary of fiscal-year 2017 Q2 performance and an update on 2017 guidance. Kevin will review more specifics on Q2 and then, Terry will run through the financials. This may take a little longer than usual. To restate, we believe our business model is unique in the industry, both in its consistency and its ability to sustain and create intrinsic shareholder value through all phases of the cycle. About 90% of our net sales are generated by proprietary products and about three-quarters of our net sales come from products for which we believe we are the sole source provider. Over half our revenues and a much higher percent of our EBITDA comes from aftermarket sales. Aftermarket revenues have historically produced higher gross margins and provided relative stability through the cycles. Our long-standing financial goal is to give shareholders, over time, private equity-like returns with the liquidity of a public market. To meet our goal, we have to stay focused on the details of operating management, value creation as well as careful management of our balance sheet and allocation of our capital. We follow a consistent long-term strategy. We own and operate proprietary aerospace businesses with significant aftermarket content. Second, we have a simple, well-proven, value-based operating strategy based around our three value driver concepts. Third, we maintain a decentralized organization structure and a unique compensation system that closely aligns us with the shareholders. Fourth, we acquire proprietary aerospace businesses with significant aftermarket content, where we see a clear path to PE-like returns. And fifth,…

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

$340 million.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Oh, $340 million, excuse me. We also raised $300 million of high-yield debt to reload, to take advantage of a good price for fixed debt and to confirm our ready access to the market. Last quarter, Standard & Poor (sic) [Standard & Poor's] (19:29) upgraded both our fixed and variable rate debt as well as our overall corporate ratings. We also amended our credit agreement to allow us over a 12-month period to either buy about $1.5 billion of our stock or payout $1.5 billion of special dividend. We have about $1.3 billion of this authorization still unused. As we have explained in the past, 75% of our debt is either fixed or capped. The net result is to significantly reduce our exposure to interest movements through at least 2021. At April 1, 2017, our liquidity was strong. We had slightly under $1 billion in cash, about $600 million of open revolver and additional room under our credit agreement. We believe we have adequate capacity to make over $1 billion of acquisition. This grows steadily through the year. This does not imply anything about likely levels of acquisitions for the year. In Q2, we completed the acquisition of Schroth Safety Products and certain other aerospace assets from Takata Corporation for about $90 million. This business primarily manufactures multi-point restraint harnesses in Germany and the U.S.A., used primarily in commercial pilot and flight attendant restraints as well as certain military and racing applications. The products are primarily proprietary and have significant aftermarket. Our acquisition effort remains active. The pipeline is, as usual, mostly small and mid-sized businesses. And closings, as always, are tough to predict. Kevin is going to review the Q2 operating performance and a few other items, but a few comments. Year-to-date, all of our market segments are booking…

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Thanks, Nick. Now, let me touch on the details of the quarter. For Q2, total company GAAP revenues and EBITDA As Defined were strong, with a revenue up about 10%, EBITDA As Defined about over 14%. EBITDA As Defined was strong at 48.2% of sales. The strength in EBITDA as a percentage of sales was due to the continued realization of our value-driver concepts across our base businesses and from the continued integration of recent TransDigm acquisition. Now, let's review our revenues by market category. For the remainder of the call, I will provide color commentary on a pro forma basis versus prior-year Q2; that is assuming we own the same mix of businesses in both periods, similar to a same-store sales metric. In the commercial market, which makes up about 70% of our revenue, we will split our discussion to OEM and aftermarket. In the commercial OEM market channel, revenues were up approximately 2% versus prior Q2. Commercial transport OEM revenues, which make up the majority of our commercial OEM revenue, were up about 4% versus prior-year Q2. Bookings year-to-date for this segment have increased modestly versus first half of prior year and have outpaced fiscal-year 2017 sales by a similar modest amount. Business jet and helicopter revenue make up about 15% of our commercial OEM revenues. In total, year-to-date revenues in this market are down modestly compared to the first half of fiscal year 2016. Given the performance of this market recently, this result was not unexpected. However, bookings grew sequentially in Q2 and have outpaced shipments by over 5% for the first half of 2017. However, any optimism for this sector is tempered by business jet and helicopter OEM forecasts. We see that inventory management by our OEM customers and rate reductions on some wide-body platforms have…

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Thank you, Kevin. I will now review our financial results. Second-quarter net sales were $873 million or approximately 10% greater than the prior year. The collective impact of the acquisitions of DDC, Young & Franklin/Tactair and Schroth contributed $70 million of additional sales for the period. Our organic sales were up approximately 1%. Our second-quarter gross profit was $491 million, an increase of 15%. Our reported gross profit margin of 56.2% was almost 3 margin points higher than prior year. Gross profit margin increased almost 1 margin point due to the lower non-operating acquisition-related expenses. Excluding these costs, our gross profit margins in the remaining businesses versus the prior-year quarter improved almost 2 margin points due to the strength of our proprietary products continually improving our cost structure. Our selling and administrative expenses were 11.7% of sales for the current quarter compared to 11.9% in the prior year. Excluding acquisition-related expenses and non-cash stock compensation, SG&A was about 10.2% of sales compared to 9.7% of sales a year ago. The higher SG&A was primarily related to higher selling and admin costs related to recent acquisitions. We had an increase in interest expense of approximately $37 million, up 33% versus prior-year quarter. This is a result of an increase of 33% in the weighted average total debt to $11.2 billion in the current quarter versus $8.4 billion in the prior year. The higher average debt year-over-year was due to borrowing an incremental $1.9 billion in June 2016, $1.2 billion in November and $300 million in February. The proceeds were used primarily to fund acquisitions, pay off our highest-rate 2021 bonds, pay a special dividend and repurchase our own stock. We are currently assuming an average LIBOR of approximately 1% for the current year, which then yields a weighted average interest rate…

Liza Sabol - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Thanks, Terry. Before we start, I'd like to just ask that all of our analysts only ask initial, two questions at a time and then please reinsert yourselves into the queue, so that we can get through everyone's initial questions. Operator, we are ready to open the lines.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our first question comes from Myles Walton with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Thanks. Good morning.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Morning.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

And thanks for the color on the aftermarket. Looks like you hired some good consultants. I know you're tracking ahead of sales in terms of orders by 8.5% year-to-date on bookings for aftermarket. Can you give us some color on year-on-year first half versus first half in 2016?

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I don't know. Liza, do you have it?

Liza Sabol - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Sure. On the bookings (43:56)?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Myles, let's move on. We'll look it up for you. Okay?

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Okay. Yeah, no, that's fine. And then, the commentary you provided on the restructuring, the 8% reduction in head count, I imagine that's a pro forma basis of what you acquired over the course of the 18 months. Can you give us some color as to kind of excluding the acquisitions, what the level of productivity you're able to still get out of your core business? And obviously, there'd be low-hanging fruit in some of the acquisitions. So, I'm just trying to get at what's kind of still there on the core business that's run for an extended period of time already.

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I would say, Myles, we still look at the – our goal in these businesses is to squeeze inflation out of the cost structure every year, even the old ones. And what we mean by that is to try and squeeze about 3% of the cost out. Now, I don't say we hit it on every one, but on average, we still get that out of most of the businesses.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Okay.

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

And I would also say, if the market turns down, I'm pretty comfortable – this is primarily, I would say, the commercial OEM market. If that turns down, I'm pretty comfortable that we can move our cost structure down in line with that, assuming some reasonable turndown.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Okay. Okay. I gave you two. So, I guess I'll stick there.

Liza Sabol - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Carter Copeland with Barclays. Your line is open.

Carter Copeland - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open

Hey. Good morning, all.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Morning.

Carter Copeland - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open

Nick, I wondered if you could expand a little bit on the commentary around the discretionary stuff in Schneller and Pexco and maybe tell us if that was anything related to particular models or market segment. I would assume that Schneller is more wide-body value oriented, but Pexco, I thought was primarily sky interiors on the 737. So, anything you can tell us about what you saw there?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I would say Schneller is wide-body-only, because it's just a function of square footage. They got more square footage on wide-body. I mean, it's on all the platforms. You just got more wall space on a wide-body.

Carter Copeland - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open

So, the weakness you saw there is wide-body related sort of by definition?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

No. We have just seen slowdowns in a number of programs. Honestly, I can't peg them for you, not because I'm not willing, just because I don't know the answer.

Carter Copeland - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open

Okay.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

But you are right that Schneller in dollar volume – well, no, I'm not even sure of that. Per plane, it's more impacted by wide-bodies, but in dollar value, I think, they're pretty market-weighted. I think it's pretty market-weighted. Pexco, the best growth opportunity is those blue sky, that's where most of the growth come, but they're across all Boeing airplanes; not Airbus by the way, Boeing.

Carter Copeland - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open

Okay. And then, clearly, you scrubbed the data on the aftermarket pretty hard. I don't know if you got a sense in going through that analysis, how your parts that were more cycles-based versus usage-based in terms of the replacement decision there; was there any difference and just in general terms about how those parts trended in growth in your analysis?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Over the period, I can't say there were. I can't say there were. I mean, I felt – again, I'm going to talk now about the commercial transport passenger stuff, which is the big chunk of it. I think what we found – as I said, Carter, that the closest proxy at least looking back is the growth rate in the out-of-warranty fleet.

Carter Copeland - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Analyst · Barclays. Your line is open

Okay. Great. Thanks. I'll stick too.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Sheila Kahyaoglu with Jefferies. Your line is open.

Sheila Kahyaoglu - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Thank you very much. Nick, thank you for the aftermarket color. Can you just expand on the dynamics with the ages of fleet and maybe where you're seeing certain model weakness and maybe where you're seeing a pickup with the 787s? Are they starting to see some overhauls or not yet?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Not significantly, not significantly. I mean, I think, you can go back and do the same math. I mean, you can look at where our production airplanes are growing and where they're not. That's where we're seeing it too.

Sheila Kahyaoglu - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Okay.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

787, I can't see – you're not kicking much in yet. There is not enough of them getting outside of the window, well, I'd say the five-year window.

Sheila Kahyaoglu - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Okay. Got it. And then, just a quick one for Terry. Given you expect the cash balance to go back to $1.4 billion for year-end, are you taking a little break for the remainder of the year and just letting that cash balance build up or how should we think about the capital deployment?

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I think we are always looking at our pipeline from an acquisition standpoint. And again, you can't determine when these deals will close, but we want to deploy the cash as efficiently as possible. So, again, not knowing when the potential acquisitions could close, that's where we would be at the end of the year. That's how I qualified my comments.

Sheila Kahyaoglu - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Okay. Thank you.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I think I might add, as usual, as we move through the year, we'll look at our pipeline. Frankly, we'll look at the price of our stock. We'll look at what other opportunities and we'll decide, decide whether we keep the money or whether we get some back out to shareholders in some fashion.

Sheila Kahyaoglu - Jefferies LLC

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Makes sense. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Ken Herbert with Canaccord. Your line is open.

Kenneth George Herbert - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Your line is open

Hi. Good morning, everybody.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Hello.

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Good morning.

Kenneth George Herbert - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Your line is open

Nick, I appreciate all the aftermarket color. Just wanted to follow up. I mean, I guess, implied or what wasn't said was as you look at the analysis you've done that you don't see much of an impact from, I guess, any sort of changes in airline behavior or all of the anecdotal evidence we've heard about in terms of airline just getting more cost conscious. Is that a fair statement? It sounds like it's really just your commentary really is just a reflection of (50:35).

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, Ken, what I tried to do is – and hopefully I made myself clear – was knock off some of the things that we have seen hypothesized at least for our business. Again, you have to remember, as I said, the unit price of our stock is pretty low. We don't get a lot of volume. There's no significant concentration. There is a ton of part numbers. So, we don't see the surplus of any significance. We don't see the PMA. As I said, the pooling, i.e. the inventory drawdown, I think that may be a viable explanation, though I don't have any good date on that for a year or so. It can't be for five years, I don't think. So, I think that's probably the best answer I can give you.

Kenneth George Herbert - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Your line is open

Okay. No, that's helpful. And just as a follow-up to that, I mean, obviously, you've been into this market a lot longer than a lot of us. I know you really, I mean, looked over the last five to six years, but do you think the last five to six years you saw a step change relative to periods prior to that or difficult to say at this point?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I think the primary thing – and I'm now, to some degree, in the hypothesis mode, backfitting the answer to the data, I think, for TransDigm, the two significant things are, one, whatever it is coming on 14-year run up of our new airplanes, production rates, has interjected an unusually high percent of airplanes in the under five-year life, which depresses, I think, the rate of growth or the rating usage for spares and repairs. I think that is probably number one. And I think the second is, the mix of TransDigm's aftermarket, whereas if you went back 10 years ago, I don't know, but I would guess it was 80%, 90% commercial transport per passenger, is now 70%. There is more other stuff in there. I think those are probably the two factors.

Kenneth George Herbert - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Your line is open

Okay.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I do think, if you had a more traditional expansion contraction cycle and production rates, they maybe ran up five years, ran down five years, up five years. I think you drift back closer to the RPM number.

Kenneth George Herbert - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Your line is open

Okay, no, that's very helpful. And if I could, just finally, on the defense side, DDC in particular, can you just comment on how that's performing now? We're coming up obviously close to the anniversary for that. It seems like it's been doing well and should benefit from a lot of the fundamental backdrop, but can you specifically highlight that acquisition?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Well, we don't give out numbers on individual operating units, but I can tell you that we are still tracking just fine our value-creation model. We buy it. We have to see a PE-like return and we put together a model that does that and that's tracking that nicely.

Kenneth George Herbert - Canaccord Genuity, Inc.

Analyst · Canaccord. Your line is open

Great. Thank you very much. I'll stop there.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Noah Poponak with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Hi. Good morning, everyone.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Hey, Noah. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Nick, this may sound like splitting hairs, but is it possible to actually give us the precise start time of the window, the multi-year window, that you analyze there?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yes. You noticed that I kept saying five, six years? Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yeah.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

But you might have noticed that five, six years was not one number. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: That's right.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

What we did, Noah, is we did it over six years and we did it over five years. And depending where you made the cut-off, you got a somewhat different answer. So, we just averaged the two. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay. Yes, I mean, the reason I ask is your business had such a high growth rate in the sixth year ago, that comparing your total growth to what you're talking about for volumes, ex-price, makes a big difference in trying to make that comparison. So...

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Well, we averaged the two. Though I have to say, I'm just looking at the data right now, as you talk, Noah, if I look at 2011, almost everybody was up above the mid-teens. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yes, right.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

So, anyway... Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: But if you're giving me an industry number for that window on units or your number for that window on units and then I wanted to compare your total growth to that, your average, it's makes a big difference if I'm using five or six. And therefore, that variance is different.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

And that's why we took the whole industry, Noah, and averaged them too. We took five and six, added them up, divide by two. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay. That helps.

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

It's just because you had a funny number when you did one or the other.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Noah, I'll say again, I'm just looking at this chart, the numbers that everybody are way up in that first year. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yes. Well, I think, you're still coming off global financial crisis at that point in time.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Could well be. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: It seemed a little bit removed from it, but I don't know.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Could well be. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: On the cash flow statement, I guess, year-to-date has been a little better than the normal first-half seasonality. What are you guys looking for, for the full year for free cash flow?

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Well, I think we guided to, it was around $750 million to $800 million at the beginning of the year and I think our expectations are still there. We haven't come off of that and at this point in time, I think we're still in that line. Last quarter, we guided $1.4 billion to $1.45 billion for end-of-year cash balance. You can back out the free cash flow to-date and you can do the math on the back half of that, it will get us there. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: When I'm doing that math, should I have literally zero between CapEx and the bottom of the cash flow statement? Just because there's so many line items in there that are extremely hard to predict and I don't know what you guys have in getting to that cash balance. Do you know what I mean?

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, the way to look at it is – I think what we talked about is take our EBITDA number and we like to be over 50% on conversion to cash after cash interest, which we have said that it should approximate cash taxes, cash interest. Cash tax will approximate the GAAP rate and then you can determine your free cash flow. Then, you have a couple – a little bit of working capital to that, but we still expect to be that free cash flow around $800 million for that year. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, year-to-date, I think we're just at around $350 million something. So, you can see it back-end loaded as it typically is. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Is getting to $1 billion of free cash flow next year in the scenario analysis?

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

We're not going to comment on next year quite yet. We've got to finish up this year. So, you'll know that when we come out with our forecast for next year in Q4. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yeah, okay.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

But I would guess, Noah, I don't think, you've kind of pays your money and takes your choice on what next year's EBITDA forecast is. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yeah.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I don't think the percent cash spin-off changes substantially. If anything, as the net goes down a little, you might get a little more.

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, if you take our midpoint and grow that EBITDA by 9%, 10% (58:19) and then do the 50%, you'd probably get to where it would be.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Right, except the EBITDA growth, as you were, at least historically on average has been much better, but, yes, now I got you. Okay. Thanks so much.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from David Strauss with UBS. Your line is open.

David E. Strauss - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open

Thanks. Good morning. Interesting data, Nick.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Thanks.

David E. Strauss - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open

Want to touch on the EBITDA margin guidance. I think you're 47.8% in the first half, calling for 48% for the full year. So, some improvement in the back half of the year, but, yeah, between more volume and based on your guidance, it looks like a better aftermarket mix. Why don't we see even better adjusted EBITDA margins than what you're calling for in the back half of the year?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yes. We got a little bit of a down-pull from Schroth. So, that isn't real big, but it pulls you down a little bit and that's our best judgment now. We'll see how it plays out. I mean, if you take out Schroth, it's not inconceivable to be a little better.

David E. Strauss - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open

Okay. And then, on the aftermarket bookings running ahead of shipments for the year, how good of an indicator are – is that bookings number of what we're going to see on a go-forward basis? In other words, kind of how much visibility does that provide you versus how much do you have to just so short-cycle that you don't really ever see it in your bookings number?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yes. We're surely not booked up. We're not booked up for the balance of the year. So, there is some risk. There is some risk, but when we put the combination of the bookings running ahead and we're also – we think it's a positive that when we look at our major distributors, their point-of-sale is picking up or has picked up pretty significantly through the quarter, the mix of those two gives us some confidence. But I mean, I don't want to be deceptive here, we're not booked out through the end of the year yet.

David E. Strauss - UBS Securities LLC

Analyst · UBS. Your line is open

Okay, got it. All right. I'll stick to two. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Robert Stallard with Vertical Research. Your line is open.

Robert Stallard - Vertical Research Partners, LLC

Analyst · Vertical Research. Your line is open

Thanks very much. Good afternoon. Nick, you did mention pricing in the quarter and I imagine you had your usual calendar-year price increases. I was wondering, if you could comment on whether anything unusual had occurred there.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I don't – I think the price dynamics in our business and in our markets, in our segments is – there's nothing odd about this quarter.

Robert Stallard - Vertical Research Partners, LLC

Analyst · Vertical Research. Your line is open

And that goes to defense versus civil versus biz jet?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

That was across the company. Honestly, Rob, I can't tell you segment by segment by segment if there's any variation, but in total, the pricing dynamic is not different than it typically is.

Robert Stallard - Vertical Research Partners, LLC

Analyst · Vertical Research. Your line is open

Okay. And then – and secondly, in the past, you've commented about inventory destocking perhaps being one of the issues in the aftermarket. Now, you've done more analysis of that. Do you think that's no longer an issue and this concept of younger aircraft being more efficient is much more important?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

No, I didn't say necessarily more efficient. What I said is, well, I guess, I did, but I said they are in the, what I call, warranty period and during that period, they consume very few parts, at least of our kind of parts. They're either covered by warrant. Here, they just – frankly, just don't use this stuff. I would expect, as they come out of that five-year period, they would start to pick up their consumption. Now, could there be a little bit of efficiency? Maybe, but I don't have a good sense of that yet. I don't think it's substantial once they get out of that sort of a happy window.

Robert Stallard - Vertical Research Partners, LLC

Analyst · Vertical Research. Your line is open

So, generally, less concerned about spares on the shelves of the airlines or the distributors then?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, that's right. At least over this time period – Rob, what I tried to say is I just don't see how that could be a significant factor over a five-year period.

Robert Stallard - Vertical Research Partners, LLC

Analyst · Vertical Research. Your line is open

Okay.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

There couldn't be that much inventory in the system. Then also, I have to say, we don't hear that from any of our operating units.

Robert Stallard - Vertical Research Partners, LLC

Analyst · Vertical Research. Your line is open

All right. Thanks for everything.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Matt McConnell with RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Matthew McConnell - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open

Thank you. Good morning.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Hey, Matt.

Matthew McConnell - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open

So, again, appreciate the insight on the commercial aftermarket volume drivers. Could you touch on whether there are comparable structural issues impacting price? And I guess, you can back in commercial aftermarket price in the, I guess, low-single digit kind of range over the past five years. Can you touch on whether there are big factors driving that either direction?

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I'm not sure I follow your question, Matt, but I'll give it a try. I would say the pricing dynamic in the commercial aftermarket has not changed materially over that period. Is that your question?

Matthew McConnell - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open

Yeah, essentially. I mean, there are a lot of important factors impacting your volume once you shared a lot of good insight into. But, I guess, is the pricing component of your revenue growth in commercial aftermarket over the past five years, is that moving higher or lower within that?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I don't think it's changing substantively.

Matthew McConnell - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open

Okay, thanks.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

And I don't want to be cute about that, just to be clear. The pricing dynamic in the commercial aftermarket and our ability to get results has not changed.

Matthew McConnell - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open

Okay, great. Thanks. And then, just a quick follow-up. Did you repurchase stock since the end of the second quarter? I guess, it was around $220 million (01:04:58) in April. I don't know if that would have triggered your 10b5-1, but...

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I can't talk about anything, Matt, beyond the quarter.

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yes. We did $190 million. We talked about $150 million, that's last quarter, so $340 million is the total number we purchased during the quarter.

Matthew McConnell - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open

Yeah.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. As you probably know, during these blackout periods, we have to set a formula and buy under a 10b5 plan. So, once we kind of launch it, our ability to modify it is limited.

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Almost zero.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

As a matter of fact, it's exactly zero.

Matthew McConnell - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open

Yeah, but if your average price in the quarter was $224 and the stock was below that early in 3Q, I mean, I'm assuming you might have bought more if the terms weren't changed, but I guess we can wait.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

We can't change it.

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

We're locked into, we need to put a little baskets and ranges and so we have to execute to that. So, we don't have the hindsight to be able to select (01:06:05).

Matthew McConnell - RBC Capital Markets LLC

Analyst · RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open

Yeah, right. Okay. Understood. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Robert Spingarn with Credit Suisse. Your line is open.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Hey, guys.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Hi, Rob.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

So, Nick or Kevin, back to David's question on the bookings, book-to-bill was, I think, over 1.1 last quarter, 1.08 this quarter in the aftermarket. How big a piece of the business did those book-to-bill numbers represent that we haven't seen anything like that translate through here?

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Well, I guess, I'm not sure of your question, Rob.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Well, I mean, if your bookings are up, like 10%, but your aftermarket's up low, low-single digits, are those bookings just a small piece of the aftermarket?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I mean...

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Are we going to have 10% growth – what's that?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I think we've told you what we think the growth is for the year and you can pretty well back into that. Rob, you could take it – what is it year-to-date? 1-ish or something like that?

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Aftermarket volume.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. 1-ish, we've given you a forecast for the year, so you can pretty well figure out what the second half is.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

But, Nick, if you have a quarter like this one, where your book-to-bill is 1.085, right, there should be a future quarter with 8.5% growth if those bookings represent a full quarter of aftermarket.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, obviously, what we book, we will ship. I mean, what makes us feel comfortable about the second half of the year is that the bookings are coming in higher and the distributors are selling through.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

So, I mean, I know what you've said for the year, but it would seem that these robust bookings in the first two quarters should do better than that for the second half.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I hope they do, but I mean, the number we're giving you as guidance is mid-single digits. And you do the math. Now, also...

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Well, you're right, you're up 1% so far.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

But let me finish, Rob. Rob, the book-to-ship, the denominator's not the same. The book-to-ship against the first half, you're rising. So, the relationship between the two isn't the same.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Okay, but, I guess, what you're telling us is we're going to see something around 10% in the second half.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Well, I guess, I'm exactly – I mean, you can figure out exactly what I'm telling you, right? I mean, you can take – you could take where we are year-to-date and you could take 5% for the year or, say, mid-single digits or something like that, you can average it up and you figure out exactly.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Except you're not fully booked for the...

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

That's right. You're not fully booked. There's some risk to it.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Okay. I just want to get an idea of how comfortable you are. And while we're on that, for question two, what would you say the biggest risk in the guidance is and where is the greatest conservatism?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Rob, I don't want to give – we put these in and we make our best judgment on the number. I mean, I can give you – I think there's very little risk in the commercial OEM business and I think there's very little risk in the defense OEM business, just because those platforms are – somebody, I guess, could do some inventory restocking, but I think we probably would have seen that by now. The risk is where it always is. The risk is in the aftermarket. That's the shorter cycle stuff and it's the higher-margin stuff.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Okay. I'm just trying to reconcile the guidance to what you saw in the first half and the fact that you're not fully booked and just understand the confidence level on all that.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I think the way you might think about it is if you use – right, if you're up 1% for the first – and this doesn't – math doesn't work exactly, Rob, because the denominators aren't the same. But if you're up 1% or 1.5% for the first half of the year and you're booking at 8.5%, if you assumed 8.5% was the second half of the year and you added the two up and divide by two, you'd be...

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Mid-single digits.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

...kind of mid single-digits.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Yeah.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

If you add to that – but I also realize, Rob, as I say again, the denominators aren't exactly the same, because they're rising, but that sort of give you a general sense and I think when you add that to the fact that we go out and we look at our distributors picking up, it makes us feel better. Now, can I tell you that's what it's going to look like in July, how the (01:11:03) distributorship grew? Of course, I can't. But as we sit here today, look at those two – those kind of couple of facts, it makes us feel like this is a reasonable number.

Robert M. Spingarn - Credit Suisse

Analyst · Credit Suisse. Your line is open

Okay. All right. Well, thank you.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

You're welcome, sir.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Seth Seifman with JPMorgan. Your line is open.

Michael S. Rednor - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open

Hi. This is actually Mike Rednor on for Seth. So, my question is around the defense and kind of the growth that's going on there. What changed kind of in your outlook to drive sales higher? And was it one specific thing or can you offer some color around just the defense business? Thanks.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Kevin, you want to take that (01:11:54)?

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, sure. We've seen an increase in requests for quote activity across the ranch. Not all of it has translated into orders yet. I think there's pent-up demand possibly. So, we're seeing strong inquiries across the business, some strength in defense aftermarket and a nice rebound in OEM, some of which was the large program I talked about. But even without that, we would have seen defense OEM orders pick up. Does that answer your question?

Michael S. Rednor - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open

Yes. Thanks.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

(01:12:33) can't point to discrete platforms. It's kind of across the board, except for the one large defense OEM booking that I called out. That tends to be across the ranch.

Michael S. Rednor - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Analyst · JPMorgan. Your line is open

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Gautam Khanna with Cowen & Company. Your line is open. Bill Ledley - Cowen & Co. LLC: Hey guys good morning. This is Bill Ledley on for Gautam. Had a quick question about second sourcing initiatives. Boeing is talking a lot about their own proprietary parts business, especially in the actuation side. Have you seen any increased encouragement second sourcing on the OEM side or the aftermarket?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

You mean, on – the things that we have seen them do have been for items where they own the IP. Essentially, they've been giving the work out on a make-to-print basis. That is, there's very little of our business that is subject to that. Vast majority is our own IP and we have not seen any intrusion into that. Bill Ledley - Cowen & Co. LLC: Okay, thanks. And then, could you just remind us when your partner for success agreement ends and when you have to start negotiating for the next round?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

It ends in 2019. It ends in 2019 – 2018, end of 2018, excuse me, end of 2018. And I suspect fairly soon, we will. Bill Ledley - Cowen & Co. LLC: Okay. And just one last quick one, when did the comps in biz jet and helo start to flatten out?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I don't know the answer to that. You mean if we looked at our quarterly OEM shipments? Bill Ledley - Cowen & Co. LLC: Yeah. I think you called out some green shoots of life in that business in terms of orders in the quarter. Just kind of wondering when the revenue starts to kind of pick up on a year-over-year basis.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I think we gave you our forecast for the year and we gave it to you in the segments. I'm not going to break it down. I don't want to break it down any finer than that. Bill Ledley - Cowen & Co. LLC: Okay. All right. Well, thanks so much.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

But I would say it's hard. Yes, we saw some decent booking numbers for business jets for the quarter or the first half, but if you also – if you look at all the noise around the business jet and the forecast production rates, it's hard to get too excited about that. Bill Ledley - Cowen & Co. LLC: All right. Thank you so much.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yep.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Drew Lipke with Stephens. Your line is open.

Drew Lipke - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

Hey, guys. Thanks for taking the time.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Hey.

Drew Lipke - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

You just underwent this commercial aftermarket study and I'm curious, you mentioned the commercial aftermarket mix. If you look at the – just isolating commercial aftermarket and large transport there, I'm curious what platforms currently generate the most revenue for you in that segment right now?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

We are almost market-weighted. Matter of fact, we are just about market-weighted. So, I mean, you could go through and figure it out yourself. I mean, what I, frankly, haven't done it, but we generally track, I mean, probably seat miles by platform or something like that is going to be our distribution. We're more pretty much market-weighted.

Drew Lipke - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

Okay. And on the better defense outlook, I'm curious with – how quickly should we see an increase in defense aftermarket with – the spare parts focused and spare parts funding focused and addressing those critical readiness needs?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

That's tough. I mean, the truth is, I don't know. The speed – when the government releases money, when it bubbles down to us is awful hard to predict. As Kevin said, we are starting to see some modest pickup, but I mean, I can't tell you whether that will spike up or flatten out. I mean, we feel reasonably good about it from the balance of this year.

Drew Lipke - Stephens, Inc.

Analyst · Stephens. Your line is open

All right. Thanks, guys.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Noah Poponak with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Noah? Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Hey, can you hear me?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yes. Noah, I think this is quite disciplined, to ask two questions and get back in the line, I'm impressed. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Some would dispute if my first round was two, but it was – it was As and Bs under one and two.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I see, I see, we are keeping the track now. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yeah. So, the aftermarket bookings ahead of shipments, it's 8.5% in the first half?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yes. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: And I believe that was 12% in the first quarter. So, is it 12% in the first quarter and 5% in the second quarter?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

It's less. It's less.

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I'm not looking at the number, but it averages 8.5%. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay. And so, is the reason that the 12% doesn't immediately flow through to a similar revenue growth rate that, that 12% is comparing to 1Q revenue in the denominator.

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Right. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Whereas 2Q revenue growth is the year ago, which was a higher absolute revenue?

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yes. The denominators aren't the same. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Right. So, 12% over the lowest Q1 doesn't reflect the 12% growth in Q2, you know what I'm saying. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Got it. I got it. And what is that number...

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I think the best way to look at that, Noah, is at least the way I look at it is, it's not mathematically perfect, but if you're bringing in work at 8.5% higher than you're shipping it out, that's a reasonably positive indicator. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Right. What is that number on a trailing 12-month basis? Do you know?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I don't know the number. It's probably – I don't know it's a public number or not, but I don't know the number. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yeah, I don't know if you guys give it quite every quarter. And what is the sort of time it takes to extinguish bookings in that business?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

You mean – yeah, yeah. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Like, when does it all convert?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. It's not consistent by – across our businesses, but it's surely less than six months on average. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Less than six months, okay.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I would guess, Noah, and I'm giving you a rough estimate, I don't know this number now, but I would guess, it's three to four months backlog. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay. So, some in the first quarter, some in the quarter after that, maybe a little bit.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Right. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Right. I mean, again, what makes us feel positive is that – (01:19:40) feel some confidence in the second half is we see the bookings running ahead. And even though a lot of our business doesn't go through distributors, that's our best look. That's another good look. And we see that pick up and that gives us a positive deal. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yeah, that makes sense. And then, just last one. Did you guys quantify defense aftermarket growth in the quarter and also there the bookings versus revenue?

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

No. We just give a total number for defense. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Do you have that aftermarket breakout? (01:20:16)

Terrance M. Paradie - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

But I would tell you, I didn't give you the growth rate, because I don't know it, but the – basically, the aftermarket split versus OEM is about the same in defense as it is in the overall business.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

A little over half aftermarket. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Right. Okay. So, it doesn't sound like the growth rate in the – doesn't sound like that's been – like the aftermarket has been growing much faster than OE there and necessarily. Just curious of the shorter-cycle piece of that business.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

No, no. For the year, the OE has been growing faster than the aftermarket. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: In defense?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

In defense, in total, for the six-month period. And that's somewhat influenced by some quite a big order in the second quarter.

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

That's right. This is Kevin. (01:21:16)

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Oh, hold it, hold it, never mind, Noah, I'm looking at the bookings.

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, you're right. You're right, year-to-date, the aftermarket's up, Noah. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Can you precisely quantify it if you're looking right at it?

Kevin M. Stein - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

No, I can't precisely quantify it. I don't know how to figure it out. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Okay. That's fair enough. I got it directionally then. Thank you.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

But the bookings are going – I gave you the bookings. I told you the bookings are the other way. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yeah.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. So, by the way, just to be clear, the aftermarket is up. It's not – for the bookings, it's not declining, it's just the OEMs jumping faster. Noah Poponak - Goldman Sachs & Co.: Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Myles Walton with Deutsche Bank. Your line is open.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Hey. So, I was disciplined too, so I get one more.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Here's another disciplined soul.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

The distributor commentary you had on look-through sales, I just want to make sure I understand what you're saying. Are you saying that the distributors selling your products were up double-digit in terms of the sales that they're seeing and you were down 1.5%?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yes. We are saying that the – if you compare our dollars sold and primarily we look at that, there may be all (01:22:41), because that's where we get the best information. The odds and ends are little wounds, but they're just as good (01:22:45), but they're quite good, the data. What we're saying is, if you take the Q2 sales, for this Q2 against Q2 of the previous year, they're up significantly and up well above the price increase.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Okay. Were your sales into the distributors different? You said it's down 1.5% on an organic basis. Was there a big difference between what your sales in the distribution was year-on-year versus your sales on a non-distribution year-on-year?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I don't know the answer to that. I don't know the answer to that.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Okay. And then...

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I just had one number for commercial aftermarket. I don't know the...

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Yeah. Okay, I just wanted to know the definition of look-through, because it would, obviously, imply that they might liquidate their inventory.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah. I mean, well, anyway, I don't know the answer. I know where you're going.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

Yeah, yeah. Okay. And then the other one on the denominator, how much of your aftermarket sales are first half versus second half historically in terms of weighting? Is it proportional to sales, the overall company sales; is that best way to guess?

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Yeah, that's probably a decent estimate. That's probably a decent estimate.

Myles A. Walton - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Analyst · Deutsche Bank. Your line is open

All right, good. Thanks.

W. Nicholas Howley - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the call back over to Liza Sabol for closing remarks.

Liza Sabol - TransDigm Group, Inc.

Management

I'd like to thank you all for calling in today and please look for our 10-Q that we will file sometime tomorrow. Thanks, again.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program and you may now disconnect. Everyone have a great day.