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Q4 2007 Earnings Call· Tue, Feb 26, 2008

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and Gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Target Corporation fourth quarter conference call. (Operator Instructions) I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Bob Ulrich, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead sir.

Robert Ulrich

Management

Good morning, welcome to our 2007 fourth quarter and year-end earnings conference call. On the line with me today are Gregg Steinhafel, President, and Doug Scovanner, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. This morning I will provide a brief overview of our results and the current retail environment. Then Doug will review our 2007 fourth quarter and full year financial results in greater depth and describe our outlook for the remainder of the year. Next, Gregg will provide an update on key strategic, operational and merchandising initiatives for 2008. And finally, I will wrap up our remarks and we will open the phone lines for a question-and-answer session. This morning we announced our financial results for the fourth quarter and full year, 2007. These results fell short of our expectations as a more difficult economic environment and a hesitant consumer constrained our sales growth - especially in discretionary categories - and adversely affected our overall profitability. As we enter 2008, it seems likely that we will continue to face a challenging economic climate, at least through the first half of the year. As a result, we are keenly focused on the disciplined execution of our core business operations, continued thoughtful management of our expenses, and an unwavering devotion to deliver the excitement, innovation, design and value that consistently delight our guests. Target is fortunate to have a powerful brand, a seasoned leadership team and a proven strategy that has successfully navigated economic downturns in the past. We are committed to improving our recent performance without sacrificing any aspect of our brand and without compromising our overall guest experience. By remaining relevant to our guests and consistently delivering on our "Expect More, Pay Less" brand promise we are confident that Target will continue to enjoy profitable market share growth in 2008, and beyond, in a variety of economic conditions. Now Doug will review our results for the fourth quarter and full year which were released earlier this morning.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Thanks Bob. As a reminder, we are joined on this conference call by investors and others who are listening to our comments today live via webcast. Following our prepared remarks we will conduct a Q&A session and Susan Kahn, John Hulbert and I, will be available throughout the remainder of the day to answer any follow-up questions you may have. Also, any forward-looking statements that we make this morning should be considered in conjunction with the cautionary statements contained in our SEC filings. In my comments this morning I will discuss three topics, each of which has important implications for our future results. First, I will review key aspects of our fourth quarter performance in our core retail and credit card operations. Next, I'll detail our fourth quarter activity under our share repurchase authorization. And finally I'll share our outlook for our business in 2008. This morning Target Corporation announced financial results for the fourth quarter and full year 2007. As Bob mentioned, we experienced disappointing financial results for the quarter and the year as we faced the challenge of a sharply softer sales trend in the quarter while comparing against an extra week in last years fourth quarter and fiscal year. Some key elements of our fourth quarter performance were total revenue growth of 0.8% due to the contribution from new stores, a 0.2% increase in same-store sales, growth in revenue from our credit card operations and cycling the impact of an extra week in last year's fourth quarter. On an equal thirteen-week over thirteen-week basis, our revenues increased 6.3% in the quarter. Our fourth quarter gross margin rate declined 53 basis points from last year. Approximately 60% of this decline was due to the impact of faster sales growth in our lower margin consumable and commodity categories. The…

Gregg Steinhafel

President

Thanks Doug. As Bob and Doug have just described, our 2007 financial performance did not meet our expectations as solid sales and earnings results in the first half of the year weakened considerably in the third and fourth quarters. From a merchandise perspective, our sales in 2007 reflected a typical spectrum of relative performance. We experienced strong comparable store sales growth in our Food, Health and Wellness and other commodity categories as well as in both Electronics and Sporting Goods. In addition, we were pleased with the sales growth in 2007 in both our Ladies' Apparel and Newborn Infant and Toddler categories. In contrast, Toys had a particularly challenging year, especially in the second half of the year, as recall related activity affected the entire industry and sales of prerecorded music and movies continued to decline in 2007. Other weak categories for the year included Jewelry and Accessories, Shoes, Men's Apparel, Domestics and Christmas Seasonal. Throughout the year we intensified our focus on driving more frequent guest visits, delivering great value and increasing reliability across the chain. We also continued to deliver on the "Expect More" half of our brand promise by providing a constant flow of new designs and innovation throughout the store. We continued to improve our operational performance and speed-to-market through innovation and investment in our infrastructure, supply chain and technology. In particular, we continued to strengthen our global sourcing capabilities, enabling us to shorten lead times and reduce costs while delivering trend rate quality merchandise. We remained focused on product safety, launching new technology to improve the process of analyzing the testing and inspection results for factories making our own-brand products. We also expanded our multi-stage testing process to more categories across the store, allowing testing of our own-brand products earlier and throughout the product lifecycle.…

Robert Ulrich

Management

As Gregg has just explained we continue to find new ways to delight our guests and we’re intently focused on elements of our business that will drive stronger financial performance in 2008 while maintaining our commitment to provide continued long-term profitable growth. We believe that Target is well positioned to grow profitably in this economic environment and we feel confident that Target will continue to deliver substantial value for our shareholders over time. That concludes our prepared remarks and now Doug, Greg and I will be happy to respond to your questions.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) Your first question comes from the line of Jeff Klinefelter with Piper Jaffray. Jeffrey Klinefelter – Piper Jaffray : First question is for Doug in terms of the guidance, that was helpful in terms of the bottom line outlook and in several of the other metrics, could you get any more specific on how you’re thinking about that balance of comp gains between the first half and the second half ? You said two to three for the year. I’m curious on how that will build through the year and what would be the drivers. Is there going to be more of a transaction size versus number of transactions at this point?

Douglas Scovanner

Management

A couple comments to put some color around that. I think you can quite usefully model this by taking a careful look at our sales pace in ’07. The sales strength will build throughout the year and will likely be much stronger, particularly in the fourth quarter as we cycle against much weaker numbers in the fourth quarter of 2007. So the base of performance is what’s behind our comments, not some kind of macroeconomic judgment call. As to the make-up of our same-store sales performance between same-store traffic and growth in average ticket, I think that 2008 will continue a string of many, many years where the bulk of our improvement in same-store sales will likely be made up from growth in average ticket as opposed to same-store transaction counts or traffic. Jeffrey Klinefelter – Piper Jaffray : Okay. So, Doug, you’re not making any assumptions in your plan for a rebound of traffic in the second half of the year like we’ve heard from some other retailers.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Well, again traffic was quite weak in the fourth quarter so I would expect traffic to be much improved in Q4 ’08 than the trend going into Q4, again having everything to do with the 2007 base. Jeffrey Klinefelter – Piper Jaffray : Okay. Thank you and then just one for Gregg. In terms of your sourcing initiatives I know you’ve discussed recently your efforts in hard lines. You’ve done a great job in soft lines. You’re going to move to hard lines and look for opportunities for margin expansion there through TSS. Can you give us an update on that and what the margin implication may be for ’08?

Gregg

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Well, we’re not expecting any margin expansion in ’08. As you know, we’re fairly fully penetrated in Apparel and we’re reasonably penetrated now in the bulk of hard lines categories, particularly in Home. So, the margin expansion gains in those categories, we benefited from over the last two or three years, I would say.

Steinhafel

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Well, we’re not expecting any margin expansion in ’08. As you know, we’re fairly fully penetrated in Apparel and we’re reasonably penetrated now in the bulk of hard lines categories, particularly in Home. So, the margin expansion gains in those categories, we benefited from over the last two or three years, I would say. Jeffrey Klinefelter – Piper Jaffray : Okay. So, are there any other sourcing initiatives on the horizon that you would highlight?

Gregg

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Well, it will be a continuation of our efforts to improve our cycle times and get greater control of raw materials in the sourcing process and do what we can to mitigate costs due to raw material input, currency issues, elimination of subsidies and things like that.

Steinhafel

Analyst · Piper Jaffray

Well, it will be a continuation of our efforts to improve our cycle times and get greater control of raw materials in the sourcing process and do what we can to mitigate costs due to raw material input, currency issues, elimination of subsidies and things like that.

Robert Ulrich

Management

We are looking for some market expansion there but that will be the off-set by adverse mix as we continue to expect the lower margin commodities to continue to grow at a higher rate. Jeffrey Klinefelter – Piper Jaffray: Okay. Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Charles Grom with JP Morgan. Charles Grom – JP Morgan : Thanks. Good morning. Could you, Doug or Gregg, could you speak to the composition of the inventory levels are a bit higher than we had expected and how long you expect it will take to align your receipts with the comp trends that you spoke to?

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Well, our square footage is up 8% year-over-year. Our revenues on a constant period basis are up about 8% and our inventories are up 8%. So I am a little, confused by the question. Charles Grom – JP Morgan : Just on the aging, I mean what’s the composition? Is it some of the Home products, is it the Apparel products, could you just give us a little bit of sense for the composition? I understand the numbers.

Gregg

Analyst · Charles Grom with JP Morgan

Yeah. Our composition is excellent right now. We turned the corner into ’08 in very good shape and we have been transitioning to an all fresh in current assortments of Apparel, Home and other hard lines categories. So we feel really good about where we are, today, at the end of the first month of a new fiscal year.

Steinhafel

Analyst · Charles Grom with JP Morgan

Yeah. Our composition is excellent right now. We turned the corner into ’08 in very good shape and we have been transitioning to an all fresh in current assortments of Apparel, Home and other hard lines categories. So we feel really good about where we are, today, at the end of the first month of a new fiscal year. Charles Grom – JP Morgan : Okay, great and then Doug, just to clarify on the call options - we received a few calls this morning - the call options that you did purchase are not included in your fully diluted share count because that would be anti-dilutive. I just wanted to make sure that was the case.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

It isn’t that they’re anti-dilutive, it’s they haven’t been exercised so there’s no impact on our current share count or on the weighted average share count for the period’s just ended of this activity. It will lead to - in a highly likely case - to significant share repurchase in April, May and June and that’s the point in time where these transactions would reduce our share count. Charles Grom – JP Morgan: Okay, and then last question, when you look at ’08 could you speak to your assumptions for inflation that are imbedded in the outlook that you just provided particularly in the Home area?

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Well, we don’t have a precise and explicit inflation assumption but I would observe that in the year just ended we actually experienced modest amount of net deflation in our top-line - about 2%. Certainly there are some categories that are inflating, food products come to mind in particular, but as you know we don’t sell a lot of food compared to some of our competitors and that food inflation was more than amply offset by deflation in hard lines categories. I think electronics in particular. Looking into ’08, I believe that this equation is reasonably neutral where we continue to have some significant inflation in some categories but on an overall basis I don’t think it will be meaningful to our aggregate sales picture. Charles Grom – JP Morgan: Okay and Gregg, would 0-4% inflation rate in Apparel seem about right relative to a year ago?

Gregg

Analyst · Charles Grom with JP Morgan

I would say that sounds about right. We’re seeing some pressure there, but our best estimates at this point in time would say you’re probably in the right range with more of the pressure coming in the second half of the year than in the first half of the year.

Steinhafel

Analyst · Charles Grom with JP Morgan

I would say that sounds about right. We’re seeing some pressure there, but our best estimates at this point in time would say you’re probably in the right range with more of the pressure coming in the second half of the year than in the first half of the year. Charles Grom – JP Morgan : Okay, sounds great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Gregory Melich with Morgan Stanley Gregory Melich – Morgan Stanley : Hi, thanks. Just a quick one Doug. What should we expect CapEx to be this year and then a follow-up on the SG&A improvement

Douglas Scovanner

Management

We expect CapEx to increase modestly from the year just ended, perhaps in the range of $4.5 billion plus or minus. And could you be more particular on your SG&A question? Gregory Melich – Morgan Stanley: Sure. The follow-up on that is, given the sharpness of the decline in the sales and in the traffic in the fourth quarter you’ve been able to keep SG&A pretty flat. How did you actually do that and was there anything else there that really helped SG&A? Because I guess going forward that will be a key issue to how your margins progress. So just describe how that was done.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Well the single biggest factor, of course, is store hourly pay roll and I think our stores' leadership teams deserve at least two or three gold stars for this kind of performance. It was particularly exciting to me in light of the fact that the cycling the extra week naturally de-leveraged this rate and in addition much harder to accomplish in a softer sales environment, as you know. But we saw this one coming. We’ve been talking about this and planning for this for quite some time and I think the performance in our store hourly labor productivity in Q4 is a great leading indicator of what’s likely to happen in 2008 as well. Certainly, there were other factors in the expense picture, but this was the single biggest factor. In terms of other factors, we have a paper performance system here and it responded as you would expect it should and therefore we benefited year-over-year in incentive compensation as a percent of sales and in stock based compensation as a percent of sales.

Robert Ulrich

Management

I’d like to point out that in store productivity we’ve been making major investments over a period of time as well as logistics and systems technology, and so we were able to do this without impacting the guest experience and still able to get people through the check lanes. So we project that this will continue the same way as we move throughout 2008. Gregory Melich – Morgan Stanley: Great. Thanks.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Christine Augustine with Bear Stearns. Christine Augustine – Bear Stearns : Thank you. Could you give us an update on Target.com and what the growth rate was for that business in '07, and then my second question is, with regard to Home and maybe Global Bazaar specifically, or just anything generally that you might be doing that’s new in that area or perhaps, I don’t know if you might be taking a look at pricing across some of the Home categories for '08. Thank you.

Gregg Steinhafel

President

Our Target.com business was very strong last year and to a certain extent followed the same patterns of the store-based business. It was stronger in the first half of the year and as we got into the later half of Q3, and certainly into Q4, we saw the sales in .com soften like it did in the store. But overall they had an exceptionally strong year and delivered higher than expected levels of profitability. With regards to your question in the Home categories; Global Bazaar, which just finished up, did very well for us. We are pleased with the performance this year. We met our sales goals and our profit goals and our sell-throughs were excellent. Other changes that we’ve been making have been to adjust to the macroeconomic environment. So we’ve been more focused on our good and our better categories, and strengthening our assortment there and ensuring that we’re communicating our values more prominently on end caps and in our marketing vehicles. We’ve been updating our own brands in those areas. We’ve focused on new initiatives like the Fieldcrest reinvention where we lowered some price points, added quality and some style, and some better fabrications in those areas. So it’s an ongoing evolution of trying to deliver great quality, superior value and terrific in-stocks. Christine Augustine – Bear Stearns : Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mark Miller with William Blair Mark Miller - William Blair & Company: Hi, good morning. Gregg, following up on your last comment there, could you address the trends you’re seeing across that "good, better, best" spectrum, and can I infer from your comment that you’ve seen perhaps a little more weakness in the best categories? Thanks.

Gregg Steinhafel

President

Yeah, actually, we’re seeing very strong results in the good category and surprisingly strong results in the best category and there are some parts of the middle where we’re seeing weakness. So where we are very clear on what the value proposition is, we’re seeing good sales results. So we’re slightly surprised that the best is doing as well as it is and some of the better parts of our assortment are showing weaknesses. Mark Miller - William Blair & Company: I joined the call a little bit late. I don’t know if you addressed it at the outset. But, could you, Doug or anyone else, talk about the credit card strategic review, either that process or the feedback. And then also any thoughts you could share about your real estate portfolio. Are there opportunities as you look at ownership and alternative potential value-creating transactions? Thanks.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

First on the credit card front, as you know, we disclosed in December that this review was taking a bit longer than we had initially planned, and that we expect to be able to have something to say here in the first calendar quarter of 2008. We have not disclosed anything at this point, and from that you can clearly infer that we remain actively engaged in trying to put together a transaction that would make sense for us and for a new owner of some or all of our receivables. So clearly this is a very live issue today and one where there clearly is no assurance of an outcome of a sale of some, or all, of the receivables, but one in which I remain personally keenly interested in trying to engineer something that makes sense for both parties. With respect to your real estate question, as you know, we entertain a variety of proposals on all kinds of ideas designed around the theme of generating shareholder value. At the moment, I do not know of any transaction related to our real estate that would accomplish that objective. But we would certainly take a look at something. If you have anything in mind, by all means you should contact us. Mark Miller - William Blair & Company: Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes form the line of Robert Drbul with Lehman Brothers.

Robert Drbul - Lehman Brothers

Analyst

Hi, good morning. Two questions: First, for Gregg; can you maybe comment a little bit on the current trends in the competitive environment that you’re seeing out there, and the second question for Doug on the credit side. When you talked about delinquencies and the allowances and charge-offs, can you maybe just give us a little more flavor for what your expectation is for the bad debt provision throughout 2008?

Gregg Steinhafel

President

With regards to the competitive environment, we have not seen a material change in the environment. It remains highly competitive with Wal-Mart being a price leader and we maintain our position of being competitively priced with them on like and identical items in the local market. So that position hasn’t changed. So overall, I would just describe it as pretty much rational and consistent to where it’s been in the past. Now, we are facing more price, more cost inputs and so we are trying to pass along those price increases in the marketplace, so we will wait to see how those shake out over the next 60 or 90 days. But overall, we think the environment is fairly consistent to what it’s been in the past.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Bob I’ll faithfully answer your question regarding trends and bad debt expense. But, I feel compelled to put a little color around it before we talk about that. I mentioned earlier in my remarks that we expect continued growth in contribution to profit to earnings before taxes after financing cost and all costs including bad debt expense for the year in 2008. Singling out bad debt expense, of course it’s on the rise. It rose in the fourth quarter, and I would expect for it to remain relatively high on a year-over-year basis at least through the front half of 2008. Nonetheless, we believe we can accommodate that increase in that one cost element through a combination of balanced growth and yield management.

Robert Drbul - Lehman Brothers

Analyst

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator.

Analyst

You next question comes from the line of Neil Currie with UBS

Neil Currie - UBS

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for taking my question. Just the first question is about your assumptions on the economy for this year. Have you made any assumptions about what type of slow-down this is, how long it will last, and whether we will get back to the quite high sales environment or quite robust sales environment we’ve had over the past couple of years. And then secondly, I’d like to ask a question on rising costs on aggregates and steel, whether that’s impacting your cost to build stores or whether that’s being offset by other factors like lower land prices, lower labor costs and what the net impact might be?

Gregg Steinhafel

President

Firstly, regarding the general economy, as Doug mentioned earlier, we are not making any major assumptions. We are primarily basing our plans on the fact that our business slowed down somewhat in the third quarter of this last year and slowed down more in the fourth quarter. And so if there is an economic resurgence that would be an upside that we are not anticipating but obviously that would be very welcome. As far as rising costs in aggregate and steel, there are some increases there. Most of those, we are offsetting with other efficiencies as we build our new stores, so we are not seeing a major overall impact on our costs. There could be a little bit of an increase but it’s not hugely significant.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

In particular to your question about land costs, we have not seen any decrease in the values of the kinds of real estate that would be suitable to build new Target stores.

Neil Currie - UBS

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Virginia Genereux with Merrill Lynch

Virginia Genereux - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Virginia Genereux with Merrill Lynch

Thank you and good morning. Doug, if I can ask you about the margin outlook a little bit. I think you said slight to modest operating margin rate decline and most of that gross margin driven. So then, can I ask, the mix-shift pressure and any possible sort of clearance - I guess you feel that the mix-shift pressure sort of moderated this quarter was 60 bps in October, 30 bps this quarter. Is your assumption, it stays at the 30 bps and do you think you can fully offset that in the back half? Is it like your comp guidance, do you assume margins sort of are up year-over-year in the second half?

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Well first of all, as you know Virginia, we have averaged 20 or 25 basis points of pressure on gross margin rate each year for the last decade. So the fourth quarter experience is a little bit higher than average, but by no means an outlier as a data point. It was the third quarter and only the third quarter of 2007 that was an outlier data point on this particular metric. So as we look forward, we expect throughout the year continued pressure on gross margin rates due to the faster growth of our lower margin commodity and consumable categories. That’s business as usual at Target. As usual, we also have a wide variety of initiatives designed to try to offset some of that pressure. What I intended to convey in my earlier comments was that we don’t think it’s prudent to plan for those offsets to get us back to neutral or positive. We think it’s appropriate in our thinking to plan for some slight or modest gross margin rate deterioration while we continue to work like dogs to try to mitigate it or eliminate it.

Virginia Genereux - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Virginia Genereux with Merrill Lynch

And Doug again, can you just remind us, today, given the input, sort of, cost environment, the contributors, the key levers of improving or maintaining the gross margins are what these days?

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Gregg, do you want to tackle that one?

Gregg Steinhafel

President

Well, it would be rational, competitive marketplace that accepts the price increases that we’re experiencing. And it’s managing our business appropriately so that we have our sales expectations set appropriately in our Apparel and our seasonal categories so that we don’t take excess mark-downs as we go though a tough spring season. We believe we’ve got our business appropriately planned at the right levels, so we really don’t expect to see deteriorating gross margin rates due to higher mark-down levels in the spring.

Virginia Genereux - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Virginia Genereux with Merrill Lynch

Great, and then just, secondly, Doug if I may, on share repurchase and the option contracts. You bought back 25 million shares in the fourth quarter. Is it fair to say, consistent with your communication, that you could utilize more than half of the $10 billion authorization, now that you’ve raised this four billion, that you're going to augment the likely option exercise with additional share repurchase?

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Yes. To be precise, the options that we currently hold give us the right to purchase 30 million shares, exactly 30 million shares, and in addition, the likelihood of exercising those options, it is highly likely, virtually certain, that we will execute yet more share repurchase activity in the open market during 2008.

Virginia Genereux - Merrill Lynch

Analyst · Virginia Genereux with Merrill Lynch

That’s great. Thank you all.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of (indiscernible) with Sanford Bernstein.

Unidentified Analyst - Sanford Bernstein

Analyst

Good morning. I will have two questions actually. I wonder if you could comment specifically about the massive price action we’ve seen at Wal-Mart, where it seems their implementation on price leadership has changed a little bit. Now I wonder how your business is doing during those times of massive price action, for example during back-to-school, to holidays and then the Super Bowl time. And also, I was wondering if you could comment on what might be the replacement for Mizrahi going forward?

Gregg Steinhafel

President

Sure, with regards to, to use your term, “massive price actions,” we wouldn’t characterize Wal-Mart’s marketing campaign of lower prices as a massive price action or really any change to their normal cadence or rhythm of going to market. They, fairly typically, have reduced prices and initiated rollbacks to the tune of a billion dollars per year as they enter seasonal time frames like Easter and back-to-school, back-to-college, in fourth quarter as we get into the holiday season. So perhaps they’re doing a better job of marketing that message. But in all practicality, what we’re observing in the marketplace is no real change in terms of the number of items they’re marking down or rolling back, or the depth of those discounts. As it relates to Isaac Mizrahi, we’ve enjoyed a terrific five-year relationship with Isaac, and I think you all are over representing what it means at Target. It’s approximately 3% of our Apparel and Accessories business, and we really view his strength as a niche contemporary collection, and any efforts that we have had to move beyond that were unsuccessful at best. And so when the contract became renewable, we had the opportunity to, he had the opportunity to broaden his involvement with an apparel company, and we took it as an opportunity to move beyond this partnership, because we did not want to pass on higher royalty rates to a small collection business within the stores.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Unidentified Analyst - Sanford Bernstein

Analyst

Operator

Operator

In terms of your question about looking forward on the allowance as a percentage of receivables, here at year-end of course it's 6.6%, there is some seasonality to that figure, but I would not expect it to change meaningfully as we move through 2008, with the sole exception of normal seasonality that makes some quarters naturally higher and lower than others. Daniel Binder – Jefferies & Co.: In terms of your question about looking forward on the allowance as a percentage of receivables, here at year-end of course it's 6.6%, there is some seasonality to that figure, but I would not expect it to change meaningfully as we move through 2008, with the sole exception of normal seasonality that makes some quarters naturally higher and lower than others.

Robert Ulrich

Management

In terms of your question about looking forward on the allowance as a percentage of receivables, here at year-end of course it's 6.6%, there is some seasonality to that figure, but I would not expect it to change meaningfully as we move through 2008, with the sole exception of normal seasonality that makes some quarters naturally higher and lower than others.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

In terms of your question about looking forward on the allowance as a percentage of receivables, here at year-end of course it's 6.6%, there is some seasonality to that figure, but I would not expect it to change meaningfully as we move through 2008, with the sole exception of normal seasonality that makes some quarters naturally higher and lower than others. Daniel Binder – Jefferies & Co. :

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Daniel Binder – Jefferies & Co.:

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Daniel Binder – Jefferies & Co.:

Douglas Scovanner

Management

Daniel Binder – Jefferies& Co.:

Operator

Operator

Adrianne Shapira - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Gregg Steinhafel

President

Adrianne Shapira - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Gregg Steinhafel

President

Robert Ulrich

Management

Adrianne Shapira - Goldman Sachs

Analyst

Operator

Operator

Michael Exstein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

Robert Ulrich

Management

Gregg Steinhafel

President

Michael Exstein - Credit Suisse

Analyst

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Operator

Operator

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Joe Feldman - Telsey Advisory

Analyst

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Robert Ulrich

Management

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Joe Feldman - Telsey Advisory

Analyst

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Douglas Scovanner

Management

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Joe Feldman - Telsey Advisory

Analyst

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Robert Ulrich

Management

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Operator

Operator

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Todd Slater - Lazard Capital Markets

Analyst

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Robert Ulrich

Management

As we've mentioned in the past, we still have an outstanding ability to well over double our sales in the US, and could potentially, virtually double our square footage, so we have very, very strong growth available here. We continue to monitor an international situation, and we feel we will be there at some point. One could also look at the international situation and say that as Target is more focused on better-educated and more affluent higher demographic level guests, it would serve us well to be into some of these major emerging markets as they develop a stronger middle- and upper-middle class. So foreseeable future, still here, but monitoring externally - eventually we'll be there.

Todd Slater - Lazard Capital Markets

Analyst

Bob Ulrich

Analyst

Operator

Operator