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Interface, Inc. (TILE)

Q4 2025 Earnings Call· Tue, Feb 24, 2026

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and thank you for standing by. My name is Kelvin, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to Interface, Inc. Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2025 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question during this time, simply press star followed by the number one on your telephone keypad. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press star one again. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Christine Needles, Corporate Communications. Please go ahead. Good morning, and welcome to Interface, Inc.'s conference

Christine Needles

Management

call regarding fourth quarter and full year 2025 results. Hosted by Laurel Hurd, CEO and Bruce Hausmann, CFO. During today's conference call, any management comments regarding Interface, Inc.'s business which are not historical information are forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. Forward-looking statements include statements regarding the intent, belief, or current expectations of our management team as well as the assumptions on which such statements are based. Any forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future results. There are risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from any such statements, including risks and uncertainties described in our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K filed with the SEC, as supplemented in our first quarter 2025 10-Q. The company assumes no responsibility to update forward-looking statements. Management's remarks during this call also refer to certain non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations of the non-GAAP measures to the most comparable GAAP measures and explanations for their use are contained in the company's earnings release and Form 8-Ks furnished with the SEC today. Lastly, this call is being recorded and broadcasted for Interface, Inc. It contains copyrighted material and may not be rerecorded or rebroadcast without Interface, Inc.'s express permission. Your participation on the call confirms your consent to the company's taping and broadcasting of it. After our prepared remarks, we will open up the call for questions. I will now turn the call over to Laurel Hurd, CEO. Thank you, Christine, and good morning, everyone. 2025 was a record year for Interface, Inc. as net sales, adjusted operating income, and adjusted EBITDA reached their highest levels in the company's history driven by a One Interface strategy. We introduced the One Interface strategy in 2023, committing to a set of initiatives that focus on building strong global functions to support…

Bruce Hausmann

Management

Well, thank you, Laurel, and good morning, everyone. All comparisons provided are year over year versus 2024 unless otherwise noted. Fourth quarter net sales were $349,400,000, up 4.3% as reported and 1.6% on a currency-neutral basis. Fourth quarter currency-neutral net sales were flat in the Americas on a strong prior year comp of 9.6% and up 4.1% in EAAA. Adjusted gross profit margin in the fourth quarter was 38.6%, up 169 basis points on favorable pricing and favorable product mix, partially offset by higher input costs. In 2025, we recorded a nonrecurring inventory reserve adjustment that benefited adjusted gross profit margin by approximately 80 basis points. This item will not recur going forward. Adjusted SG&A expenses were $96,600,000 in the fourth quarter, compared to $90,800,000. The increase was primarily due to FX translation, higher salary and fringe on merit-related inflation, and higher variable compensation on increased sales and profits. Adjusted operating income was $38,200,000, up 16.7% compared to $32,800,000. Adjusted EBITDA was $49,800,000, up 8.2%. Our fourth quarter adjusted effective income tax rate benefited from the release of a $2,900,000 valuation allowance primarily related to the use of foreign tax credits. This benefit is not expected to recur, and this nonrecurring benefit added $0.05 to our fourth quarter and full year adjusted EPS. Fourth quarter adjusted EPS was $0.49, up 44.1% compared to $0.34. Fourth quarter consolidated currency-neutral orders increased 2% year over year. The Americas was up 3% on top of a prior year order growth rate of 9%. EAAA's fourth quarter order growth was flat year over year on a softer macro environment. Turning to our full year 2025 results. All comparisons provided are year over year versus fiscal year 2024 unless otherwise noted. Full year net sales totaled $1,390,000,000, up 5.4% and at the high end of…

Laurel Hurd

Management

Thanks, Bruce. I want to close by saying how proud I am of what our team has accomplished in 2025, and I want to thank our customers for trusting us and choosing Interface, Inc. This was a record year for the company delivered through strong execution of our One Interface strategy, and we are just getting started. We enter 2026 with confidence in our strategy and our ability to create long-term value for our shareholders. We will now open for questions. Operator?

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we will now begin the question and answer session. If you would like to withdraw your question, please press 1 again. One moment please for your first question. Your first question comes from the line of Brian Biros of TRG. Please go ahead.

Brian Biros

Analyst

Good morning. Thank you for taking my questions. Can you maybe talk a little bit further about the One Interface selling strategy here? You know, it seems like it has been very successful so far, years into it. Given the outperformance in sales and margins so far, maybe just help us understand a little bit more on what is still to be rolled out and felt across the business.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Yes. That is a great question. So we are really proud of the execution to date and the One Interface strategy, as you said, is especially with the combined selling teams in the U.S. is off a really strong start. We are making a lot of progress as you saw. Our health care billings in the year were up 21%. Our nora business was up 17%. And I really do think that is a lot to do with this combined selling team. But I think we are just getting started. We have two main opportunities that I will hit on. The first is the launch of Noravant, which is really exciting for us. This is a wood grain look in rubber, a first of its kind, and we expect that to be a really exciting long-term growth opportunity. As you know, our nora selling cycle is a bit longer. So we expect that. We just rolled it out last week at our sales meeting, and our sellers now have samples in hand. So they are now starting to share that with customers. And we expect that to start generating revenue by the fourth quarter. It will probably be somewhere $5,000,000 to $10,000,000 this year, but then expand over time. So we are excited about that. And then secondly, you know, we have learned a lot about our combined selling teams in the U.S., and we are taking those learnings across the globe. We still have a lot of runway to go to expand health care and education not only in the U.S. market, but in markets around the world.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for that. On gross margins, came in very strong at the end of the year here, I guess, on an adjusted basis, kind of at that aspirational 38.5% you have talked about before. Great to see. 2026 guidance? Also great to see continued expansion there, 38.5% to 39%. I guess, maybe just talk about some puts and takes for margins in 2026?

Bruce Hausmann

Management

Yes. So, Brian, thanks for noticing. It was great to see us achieve our long-term ambition of 38.5% ahead of schedule. And as you mentioned, you know, anything north of that baseline of 38.5% will be improvement. So just to put a finer point on it, you know, if we achieve our high end, it is actually about 100 basis points of improvement that we will achieve this year. There are two components to that. We are offsetting about 50 basis points of tariff-related headwinds, and then we are offsetting about 50 basis points due to the inventory adjustment that we mentioned in our prepared remarks. That got us to the baseline. So we are very pleased with the progress that we have made around gross profit margin. A lot of the benefit is going to continue coming from the automation that we have put into place in our existing factories. I sometimes call that we will get a little bit of a wraparound effect of that. And we are also putting some more of that same equipment into our international markets. We are putting some equipment into our Australia plant, equipment into our plants in Northern Ireland, and we continue to also make investments in automation and efficiency-related equipment in our nora plant. So you put all that together, and, you know, we are expecting to continue to drive gross margin expansion. I think that we are really pleased with the progress, and, I mean, we are off to a good start continuing to drive for this year.

Operator

Operator

Nice. I see where that goes for 2026. Last one for me. Can you talk about the introduction of these more accessible price point products—kinda if that is fully rolled out already or if there are still more products in that kinda category to introduce in 2026. And maybe if there is any difference in kind of the sales growth between those products and the other kind of legacy products. Thank you.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Yes. Sure. So we have one platform that we continue to build on. We call it the Open Air platform or the Open Collective as we continue to expand it. So we are seeing a lot of success in that collection. We continue to roll out new colors and styles there, which is great. We have got some warmer colors rolling out there. And then we will be launching a whole new collection as well in the middle of the year, which has a different design look and feel. So we are finding, you know, we do a lot, as you know, we do a lot of test and learns, and we want to make sure that we could maintain our premium offering in carpet tile as an example while expanding incrementally this more mid price point for us. And we really have proven that we can do that. We have also done the design work. I am, you know, I am really proud of our design and manufacturing teams working together. So the designs that we come out with in those price points, we still are happy with the margins on, so we are not dilutive there. So we are pleased with the progress, and we will continue the momentum from there.

Operator

Operator

Got it. Thank you. Thanks, Brian. Your next question comes from the line of David MacGregor of Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

David MacGregor

Analyst

Yes. Good morning, everyone. Congratulations on all the progress. It is wonderful to see. I guess I wanted to begin by just asking you about the difference between kind of the corporate growth, which was kind of flat versus what was obviously very strong health care and education. How would you characterize the corporate market right now? And was there something that was there as an offset that left you flat? Or just maybe help us better understand that differential.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Yes. So I would say this. The corporate business, you know, we have said we wanted to grow that business this year. We were up about half a point globally for the year, and that was about in line with our expectations. The market continues to—we feel great about the overall corporate market. As we have said before, the Class A space remains in demand. We are also excited to see that markets like New York and San Francisco are coming back stronger. Globally, it is a competitive market and we continue to focus on gaining share in that space, which we are doing nicely. And then as you said, our health care and education grew very nicely for the year, for the quarter. And feel good about that. Our retail business in the quarter—so I think that is what you are poking at in the quarter growth. Our retail business can be a little bit choppy as we have seen over time, and that was a little bit soft in the quarter. So that dragged us down a bit, but more than offset by the health care and education growth.

Bruce Hausmann

Management

And, David, I think what you are seeing is strong execution in place. You know, we have talked a lot about diversifying the company around product categories, which we have done with carpet tile, LVT, and rubber. We have also talked about continuing to strengthen the company through segmentation. And we are really seeing that demonstrated on the P&L through these growth rates in education and health care, which is fantastic to see. So often you see companies state a strategy and you wonder where is that showing up on the P&L. And I think we are the dead opposite of that. You know, our strategy is actually revealing itself on the P&L, which is fantastic to see.

David MacGregor

Analyst

Good. Thank you for that. And then you talked about the 7% increase in backlog. Could you just kind of open that up a little bit to the extent you can or you feel comfortable discussing? And help us understand North America versus EAAA and the contribution from the Open Air platform versus, you know, the premium spec product and just maybe a little more detail around that backlog number.

Bruce Hausmann

Management

So it is our normal blended business. It is a good solid backlog. We feel really good about it. And we feel, you know, that gives us air cover as we enter into 2026, which also gives us comfort. And so with our order rates and our backlog, as you can see, we gave a good strong guide for Q1. It gives us confidence as we enter into 2026 and enter our guide for Q1.

Laurel Hurd

Management

And it is pretty consistently spread across all the initiatives. I do not think there is one thing weighing it more heavily than others.

David MacGregor

Analyst

Yes. So it is pretty broad. Okay. That is interesting. Thank you. Yep. Yep. And then let us just talk a little bit about—you talked about the SG&A discipline on your prepared remarks. I mean, a lot of growth opportunity here, which is really encouraging, but how do you make sure that as you pursue those growth opportunities, you are also kind of managing that SG&A and we do not repeat the sins of the past that occurred long before your arrival, but were obviously a big issue. And just talk about the leverage opportunity there.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Yes. I would say this, and Bruce is an awesome partner on SG&A control. I feel very comfortable. We know where every dollar is, and are very, very disciplined in what and how we spend it. We do a lot of gating of spend as well, so we are sure that, you know, we are ready to spend the money. As we have mentioned before, we are focused on making sure that we drive the front end of the business, so the selling, the sales and innovation get the investment, while we do everything possible to be efficient on the back end of the business. And as you know, also a lot of our SG&A is variable compensation that is tied to revenue. So that is also another nice element that we have that will flex up and down.

David MacGregor

Analyst

And then the last question for me was just costs. And, you know, you talked about costs a couple times both on the quarter and on the annual numbers as offsets to price/mix benefit. How should we think about what you have got embedded in your guide and kind of where the surprises could potentially occur?

Bruce Hausmann

Management

Well, let us talk about our assumptions first. We are assuming some modest inflation in our raw materials. We are assuming status quo around tariff-related costs. Obviously, that is a moving target that we are watching daily. You know? And, David, the second part of your question was surprises. You know, I think that one of the things that we are really focused on is that that is a good management team, and as being strong operators, surprises are going to come our way. We just have to navigate through them. And we just have to work through them, and we need to—for example, if there is an increase in tariff cost, we just need to make sure that we offset those through continued pricing and productivity initiatives. And so we take this business day by day, week by week, month by month, and we make sure that whatever is coming at us that we continue to navigate through it and that we achieve our goals.

Operator

Operator

Got it.

David MacGregor

Analyst

Congratulations on all the progress. Thank you.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Thanks, David.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Reuben Garner with Benchmark. Please go ahead.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · Benchmark. Please go ahead.

Hey, thanks. I was wondering if you had any insight into your business in the U.S. by geography and or customer size? In other words, any signs of acceleration in maybe some of the major cities? Any signs of acceleration with some of your larger customers of late?

Laurel Hurd

Management

Yes. We have seen, you know, in the U.S., I would say this is maybe particularly to the corporate side of the business. We have really seen New York and the Bay Area come back strong, so they were definitely, you know, obviously harder hit in COVID. It took a longer time to recover, but we are seeing those really strengthen, which is encouraging. Texas remains strong. The Southeast again remains strong, so we are seeing that regional migration continue to happen. And with respect to our customer side, you know, we do a lot of our business—about 80% of our business is renovation and 20% new construction. So I do not have a lot to add with respect to customer size. I think they are all kind of in the same trend.

Bruce Hausmann

Management

Yes. And one thing that helps us, Reuben, is that our customer concentration is so low that, you know, I think that that is another strength of the business. We are not dependent on any one or two or three or four customers. We have a big diverse group of customers, which I think is actually a strength.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · Benchmark. Please go ahead.

Great. And then, the health care and education pieces of your business were very strong. Can you dive a little more in how much of that you think is share gain? How much kind of runway you see in spending in those two particular categories as we get into 2026 and beyond?

Laurel Hurd

Management

Yes. Sure. You know, we love the macro environment about around both health care and education for Interface, Inc., but I will take each of them. Education is—both K–12 and higher ed have some nice tailwinds around them. There is investment happening there, and they prefer products like Interface, Inc. So we have got a strong product offering. They care about their carbon footprint and are really well aligned to our strategy. There are some share gains in education. A lot of the expanding our approachable price points across both LVT and carpet tile has given us more access and share gains in K–12 especially. So that has been a nice win for us. And then health care, again, great macros there with the aging population, more focus on preventative care, a lot of technology happening in health care that we think will continue to benefit us. So strong environment, and then again, share gains there. This is the place that has been most strongly impacted by our combined selling team, where we have our sales force focused on each market. They are focused on all of the product categories that we sell, Interface, Inc. and nora, and that is really unlocked some health care environments. So an example of that—where we may have had a really strong nora business at a particular health care customer, but we had not had carpet tile in the waiting room or LVT outside of an elevator bank—we are now selling them the full suite of products, which is really helping us grow our overall health care business.

Bruce Hausmann

Management

And, Reuben, one of the things that is great about these two market segments is we just have such a strong right to win inside of them. If you look at how our products are made and how they are catered around design, performance, and sustainability, both of these market segments are just so well suited for exactly what we do and how we do it, which is, you know, that is why we are, I think, seeing the traction that we are seeing.

Reuben Garner

Analyst · Benchmark. Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks for the detail, guys. Congrats on the strong close to the year, and good luck in 2026.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Thanks, Reuben.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Alex Paris of Barrington Research. Please go ahead.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions, and I will just do a few cleanup cats and dogs here. Congrats on the quarter. Much better than expected even if you exclude that nonrecurring inventory adjustment. I think adjusted gross margins would have been 37.8% if you exclude it, and that is above both our estimate and consensus.

Bruce Hausmann

Management

Yes. Exactly.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

And then EPS, $0.44 excluding that. So and that still exceeds. So I just wanted to talk, first of all, about Q1. I get it, extra week. Oh, and also before we get into it, adjusted gross margin is really just gross margin because the amortization is—the add back of amortization is behind us. Right?

Bruce Hausmann

Management

That is right. Are you referring to the nora purchase accounting amortization?

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

Yes. I am sorry. Yes.

Bruce Hausmann

Management

Yes. That is no longer hitting the P&L. That is fully burned off.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

So okay. And that was essentially the add back for adjusted gross margin. So we are just—we are talking GAAP gross margin.

Bruce Hausmann

Management

That is right.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

The gross margin forecast for first quarter is above our expectations. Why is the tax rate so low? Does that have something to do with the inventory adjustment?

Bruce Hausmann

Management

I know you are referring to Q1. Yes. The main reason is that this is when stock options—or when our employees have their LTI vest, and this is pretty mechanical, but I will get into it. So if you take the strike price between the market price, that is a tax deduction that the company gets. And you get that deduction in the period of vesting, which happens in Q1. And so that is a tax deduction in the quarter in Q1, which is why the rate—our tax rate—is lower in Q1.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

Gotcha. Because for the full year, it is 25% to 26%, which is more in line with our expectations.

Bruce Hausmann

Management

Exactly. But in Q1, we get a nice—we get a deduction for what I just described.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

Gotcha. Appreciate that color. And then, Bruce, your comments about gross margins lead me to another question. For the full year, you are guiding for adjusted gross margins of 38.5% to 39%. You said at the high end that would kind of represent a 100 basis point increase because you have got a couple of grow overs, the tariff impact and the inventory adjustment. First question about the tariffs. What was the impact of tariffs in 2025? And what is the impact of tariffs based on what you know now, I know it is a moving target, in 2026?

Bruce Hausmann

Management

So in 2025, if you look at our gross profit percentage, it diluted our percentage by around 20 basis points. And we are anticipating that it will be about 50 basis points year-over-year impact going into 2026.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

So is that part of the—is it because there was no impact in Q1 2025? You have got four quarters of it this time?

Bruce Hausmann

Management

That is right. The tariffs started kicking in sort of in the middle of last year. They started, I think, in Q2, but, you know, they really started kicking in the back half. So, anyway. I just want to clarify. We are covering dollar for dollar. So I just want to make sure that I am doing a good job communicating. We are covering dollar for dollar, but it does have a dilutive impact on our GP percentage.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

Yes. I think you mentioned it last quarter. Appreciate that. Yes. And then any impact that you could determine at this point with the Supreme Court decision to strike down the previous tariffs and replace them with 10%–15% reciprocal tariffs. Is there any incremental impact, or is it too soon to figure that out right now?

Bruce Hausmann

Management

Great question. We are obviously watching, you know, day by day. It was interesting. You know, we were at 15% tariffs last week, and then the Supreme Court struck that down as you just mentioned. And then on Saturday, we were back to 15%, kind of right back where we started. So we will see. It is to be determined. It is obviously a moving target day by day.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

Okay. Thanks. And then I think my last question here. Can I get global billings by category—health care, corporate office, education—for Q4? You gave it for full year.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Yes. I can give you that, Alex. So let us see. Corporate globally in the quarter, corporate was flat. Education was up 11.6%, so between 11% and 12%. And health care was up 11.7%.

Alexander Peter Paris

Analyst

Great. Just trying to see if there is anything else here. No. I think that is it. Again, great quarter, and great guide. Thanks for the additional color, and we will follow up offline.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Sounds great. Thanks, Alex.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David MacGregor of Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

David MacGregor

Analyst

Yes. Thanks for taking the follow-up. Just, I guess, a high-level question that kind of ties back to Noravant. And, you know, you have made such great progress with One Interface in terms of the reconfiguration of how you go to market. So much more efficient. Your coverage is so much better now than it has been in the past. Does that lead you to, you know, within the broader thought capital allocation, thinking more about investing in new product development and coming up with, you know, whatever comes after Noravant and just pursuing other product categories, other market tiers? Just maybe talk about the inclination to lean more aggressively into product development and leverage the benefits on go-to-market.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Yes. Thanks for asking the question, and we are really excited about Noravant. I think you are hitting on exactly the right point, so I appreciate you bringing it up. We are really focused on innovation. And I think we are just getting started here as well. Obviously, innovation takes time, and we have got incredible folks across our R&D organization, our product organization, and design who have incredible ideas and technology that really support our strategy and align with our brand. So very sustainable technologies, and we are lining them up. As you know, we added a new leader of product category management who is really focused on helping us identify the commercial opportunities that take all of the great innovation that we are working on and bring it to market effectively. So Noravant, I think, is a really big platform for us that we expect to drive growth. You know, we would say this product category, and it is really a new category for us, could deliver somewhere $50,000,000 to $100,000,000 over the next five years. So it is a really important platform, and we will continue to bring out the beauty of this product category. We are starting with a wood grain look. But it gives us a ton of design flexibility, and the ability for us to bring Interface, Inc.'s design capabilities to rubber in a whole new way is really, really exciting. So I think you are going to see a lot of runway on this category for us. And we have got more in the works. So, again, it takes time, but we are really focused on it and think there is a lot of ammunition here for us to go.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Laurel Hurd, President and Chief Executive Officer, for final closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Laurel Hurd

Management

Great. Thanks, Paul. I just want to thank the entire Interface, Inc. team for all of the progress in 2025. Just a fantastic year, and thanks to everyone's support. Thanks to all of our customers. And thanks to everyone for joining the call.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect your lines.