Amerino Gatti
Analyst · Sidoti & Company.
Thanks for joining this morning. So right now, we're relooking, obviously, at the 2020 budget, considering the current, mostly, let's say, oil price impacts and what it does to capital. And the best way to look at this, at least from our view at this point is the following. You've got 2 or 3 tiers -- or not tiers, but groupings of clients. You've got the integrated clients that have upstream, downstream, midstream that as you're seeing, there's a lot of capital reductions, OpEx reductions happening hourly right now. And that grouping of clients that is -- that also has refining is going to take some time to evaluate their capital projects and how they're going to spend their OpEx. So I do expect that in that group, it won't be necessarily a slowdown, but I think that we're going to have a period of time here for the next 30 to 45 days for things to settle in terms of their CapEx and OpEx budgets. So that's one grouping. Then you have the other grouping of clients that aren't fully integrated that, let's say, more on the refining space that are going to try to obviously increase utilizations right now, maximize their differentials and cracks using the drop in the input costs. So I think that when I look at the latter on stream services similar to last year, while they want to maintain high utilizations and try to maximize margins is good for on-stream. It's also good for some of our Quest offerings that are used like fire heaters, which is one of the largest downtimes in a refinery. We've got a fully integrated offering. So that's how we're looking at it is that on stream in H1 is going to -- as things settle, we expect that to be strong and continue on. I would be right now cautious on project work, specifically CapEx. So we do see H2 turnaround stronger than H1, but we are staying very close to our clients in terms of those capital type delays. And it's not only CapEx related, there's a lot of concern right now just bringing in hundreds of people into a site when it comes to health and coronavirus. So I don't want to panic yet. I think we've got to be close to our clients. We've got to monitor, but I think having the three segments allows us to better handle that cyclicality. And I would expect that over the next 30 to 45 days, we're going to get a lot clearer picture in terms of the types of clients and if they're going to be focused more on OpEx in run and maintain versus CapEx and project work.