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Q4 2018 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 20, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Results Conference Call and Webcast. For your information, today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I'd like to turn the call over to Korhan Bilek, Director of Treasury and Capital Markets Management. Please go head, sir.

Korhan Bilek

Management

Thank you, Ian. Hello, everyone. Welcome to Turkcell's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Results Call. Today's speakers are our CEO Mr. Kaan Terzioglu; and our CFO Mr. Osman Yilmaz. We have a brief presentation, and afterwards, we will be taking your questions. Before we start, I'd like to remind you to review the disclaimer of our presentation. Now, I hand over to Mr. Terzioglu.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Thank you, Korhan. Good afternoon, and good evening, and welcome to Turkcell's Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2018 Results Call. 2018 was a remarkable year in our digital transformation journey. Our model has passed the stress test of challenging macroeconomic conditions in local and global markets. Our above industry revenue growth, coupled with increasing profitability, is testament to our success of our digital operator strategy, with TRY 21.3 billion consolidated revenues, up 20.8% year-on-year and up 49% two year-on-year growth, thanks to our revenues generated from new and adjacent products. Our EBITDA grew 90.2% on two year cumulative basis, reaching TRY 8.8 billion with a margin of 41.3%. In 2018, we sold 169 million, downloads of our digital services, a key pillar of our digital operator transition. About 20% of these downloads were by non-Turkcell customers. Throughout the year, we continued to expand and enrich our digital services with new features. Accordingly, we have received a higher share of our customers 1,440 minutes in a day and created greater value within those minutes. In texting solutions, we strengthened the foundations of our business, deepened our competencies and increased our customer interaction. Paycell continued its firm progress towards becoming one of the strongest players in mobile payments in the world. A TRY 5.8 billion transaction volume was created through Paycell in 2018. Thanks to our business model hedging strategy, we generated solid profits as well as TRY 2.8 billion cash through our operations. This year marked another milestone for our asset-light strategy with the divestment of our stake in Fintur. We expect approximately EUR 350 million cash proceeds, and around TRY 650 million profit and loss contribution in the first quarter of 2019. Next slide. Let's take a closer look to our financial and operational performance in 2018. We generated revenues…

Osman Yilmaz

Management

Thank you, Kaan. Good afternoon, and good evening, to all participants. 2018 has been a year of significant achievement for the Turkcell Group, while financial markets went through a strong macro headwind. Our business model hedging strategy, which we defined as right pricing, FX and interest rate risk management and liquidity management, enabled us to achieve strong profitability and create shareholder value. In April, with our 10-year bond issue, we became the first company in Turkey to issue a 10-year in 2015. This landmark transaction has strengthened our balance sheet under favorable financing conditions, while confirming market confidence in Turkcell. We've also taken major steps towards our asset-light strategy by divesting Fintur's assets. In the fourth quarter, group revenues rose 20.6% year-on-year corresponding to an incremental TRY 1 billion. This increase is mainly comprised of TRY 745 million from Turkcell Turkey on the back of strong ARPU, TRY 140 million from Turkcell International and TRY 65 million from Turkcell Consumer Finance. For the full year, group revenues rose 20.8% year-on-year, where the driver was Turkcell Turkey. Turkcell International's contribution was TRY 390 million and Turkcell Consumer Finance contribution to growth was TRY 336 million. Next slide. In the fourth quarter, EBITDA rose to 28.8% year-on-year to TRY 2.2 billion. This was mainly due to the solid rise in revenues and relatively low direct cost of revenues. As a result, the quarterly EBITDA margin was 39.8%. For the full year, consolidated EBITDA rose 41.1% to TRY 8.8 billion. Strong revenue and nominal decrease in S&M expenses and relatively low general and administrative expenses were the underlying factors. To sum up, Turkcell Group delivered all-time high full year revenue and EBITDA in 2018 despite the challenging macro environment. Next slide. Now I would like to talk about our balance sheet and leverage…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Cesar Tiron from BAML. Please go ahead.

Cesar Tiron

Analyst

Hi, good evening, everyone. Thanks for the call and thanks for the opportunity to ask questions. I have two questions, if I may. The first one on, can you please explain a little bit deceleration of revenue growth at Turkcell Turkey, which is now I think, 18%, that's about 400 basis points deceleration for this feature number? I mean, it's still very strong, but I think below the trend of inflation. And then my second question the guidance range for EBITDA for 2019 is, obviously, quite wide. I mean, does it obviously reflect the multiple possibilities for macro inflation and the lira in 2019? And do you think that this guidance is as conservative as your guidance was a year ago? Thank you so much.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Cesar, thank you very much for your questions. First of all, let me start the first question in terms of deceleration of revenue growth in Turkcell Turkey. Frankly speaking, when you look to growth numbers, I think it is important to take the overall trend over two years into perspective. So we are actually quite comfortable with the level of the estimations that the guidance we have put for the first quarter given the macroeconomic conditions in Turkey. But more importantly, we're comfortable with the 49% year-on-year growth that we are exiting 2018 with, and we expect actually a similar strong performance looking into two year-on-year growth rates also in first quarter. Now guidance range overall. Again, once you mentioned as wide, but again, if you look our two year-on-year growth rates, I think, we are maybe prudent, and I think we should be prudent in the context of the macroeconomic conditions in Turkey with an upcoming election. So we believe that these are the right figures that we can confidently share with yourselves at this particular moment. I would like to also mention that in Q4, there has been a countrywide initiative in fight against the inflation, and our numbers also reflect a 0.7 percentage points with regard to the doubling of the quotas, therefore, a reduction of the quota excess revenues for Q4, which was a one-off. So please keep those into consideration assessing our guidance.

Cesar Tiron

Analyst

Thank you so much.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Johan Kim from [indiscernible]. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

This is Johan Kim from [indiscernible]. Just to follow-up on the EBITDA guidance. So why your EBITDA possibility would drop from 41% in 2018 to 40% or below if about a third of your EBITDA, of course, is inflation linked only and you plan to grow above inflation in 2019 anyway. So just any color on that would be helpful. And then, secondly, on the digital services, it's quite clear how beneficial those are for loyalty and the LTV, but maybe you could also tell us now since it's been a while that you're developing those digital services, how much revenues they generate in aggregate? That means ballpark, is it 1% or is it 5% or is it 10% of your revenue? That would be very helpful. Thank you.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Thanks a lot. First of all, let me share with you that, as we expand our business operations and tap into the adjacent market, such as energy management services as well as system integration services, you will see us delivering further growth in the areas of these additional businesses, which are nominally EBITDA accretive, but which might deliver slightly less EBITDA percentage points. In terms of especially system integration businesses, the likelihood of achieving similar type of EBITDA levels may not be the same. On the other side, we are confident with our three year plan as explained about March 2018, we had consistently said that our EBITDA margin expectations were in between 34 to 37 percentage points, so we're very comfortably above the level, and we intent to keep that levels higher than those expectations. Also please keep in mind that it is a year of high inflation in Turkey. So please accept our prudence in making these figures. With regard to the revenues coming from digital services, I always answer this question, saying that 100% of our revenues come from digital services. It is a matter of what value we provide to the customer, so we are not actually at all interested in breaking down how much revenue come from digital services, rather selling raw data, I think our objective is possible to sell only process data in the form of digital services, which absolutely has an impact on loyalty and ARPU appreciation. Therefore, we will not be breaking down our revenues based on digital services. Some of our customers like to watch TV, some others like to listen music, some others read newspapers. But we're in the process of actually making our pricing more a precision based on that and that will bring us right approach. Thank you.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you, Kaan.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Ondrej Cabejsek from UBS. Please go ahead.

Ondrej Cabejsek

Analyst

Hi, thanks for taking my questions and congratulations on a great year. I have – I would like to ask around the consumer finance company. If you can give us a guidance where you expect the total portfolio to end up on obviously 12 month horizon at the end of 2019? And whether you can comment so far what these laws have had – what sort of impact they have had in terms of your ability to not just sell, say, higher-end devices, but also upsell to higher tariffs that usually I assume come with these higher end devices. And second question was related to – maybe a Fintur one, related to the Fintur divestment. Assuming you book say TRY 650 million of gains in your net income, would this be included in the basis for a dividend proposal for 2019 profit? Thank you.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Okay. Thank you, Ondrej. With regard to the consumer finance business, as we mentioned, regulatory changes and the foreign currency depreciation really reduced the affordability of smartphones by the consumers. Therefore, we expect about TRY 1.5 billion leveraging on our consumer finance business in this year. Having said that, paying less for the device has an opportunity for us as the telco, to increase the services component of the total offer, and this is also an important thing that we will be focusing on. In terms of high-end devices, the taxation on high-end devices have also increased, therefore, we expect actually mid and lower end devices to have a bigger share in the Turkish market. And that will, of course, also encourage us for higher tariffs. With regard to the Fintur question, the TRY 650 million expected gains. Of course, it depends on the foreign currency in the date of the closure. This will be included for the base for dividend proposal. The question is it will be in 2019 because we're going to be booking it this quarter.

Ondrej Cabejsek

Analyst

Thank you. And if I may, one follow-up. The TRY 1.5 billion that is a reduction compared to what third quarter or the fourth quarter number?

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Along the year. Along the year.

Ondrej Cabejsek

Analyst

So from TRY 4.5 billion total to TRY 3 billion roughly is your expectation by the end of 2019, just to confirm?

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

That’s correct. By the end of the year, you should expect TRY 3 billion per year.

Ondrej Cabejsek

Analyst

Okay, thank you very much.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Vyacheslav Degtyarev from Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Vyacheslav Degtyarev

Analyst

Yes, thanks for the presentation. A couple of questions, so firstly, it seems like your mobile prepaid subscribers declined quite significantly during Q4. Is it purely due to new policy of the subscriber definition or there is something else behind that? And secondly, how should we our medium-term growth guidance? It doesn't seem like you change that despite a better 2018 results and better 2019 outlook. So basically, do you aim to grow 14% to 16% in 2020? Thank you.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

So let me start answering your first question about the prepaid subs declining in Q4. This is a combination of seasonality, but more importantly, in the year end, we make an involuntary churn based on the last nine months inactive numbers. So every year, this is a routine transaction that we do. So it is actually in line with our expectations, not an unexpected event. With regard to the midterm growth guidance, if you remember, we provided 14% to 16% over three years. And we actually indicate that now for this year, we're expecting 16% to 18%. These are basically our guidance as we're not changing our three year guidance at this particular stage but we hope to make another Capital Markets Day over the next 12 months period where we'll be able to refresh those – our three years numbers as well.

Vyacheslav Degtyarev

Analyst

Okay, thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question is from Atinc Ozkan from Wood & Company. Please go ahead.

Atinc Ozkan

Analyst

Yes, good evening. Thanks for the presentation. This is Atinc from Wood & Company. May be a follow-up first on the Fintur deal details, is this TRY 650 million one-off gain that you're going to book in the first quarter? Is it net of tax? And given that these proceeds are euro-denominated, what's the underlying exchange rate assumption? That's my first question. My second question is regarding your asset-light strategy. Given your Fintur exits and your already disclosed plans to create value crystallization at your other subsidiaries, are you still trying to lift your tower and fiber assets in Turkey? And maybe a third one. Earlier today, I've seen a press release from you stating that you will be objecting to the recent tender. I'm trying to understand the rationale here, given the entrants, the other party [indiscernible] basically lower commission rates through almost nonexistent 0.2%. Why are you insisting in trying to maintain this operating net income?

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Okay, so first question, Fintur, one-off gain in Q1 will be net of tax. So, this will be EUR 3.50 million cash and TRY 650 million in P&L impact. This is our expectation after the regulatory processes are completed. In terms of Fintur exits, this was an important step into our asset-light strategy. As we have mentioned earlier, within our portfolio, we have assets like towers and also the fiber company as well as our consumer finance business where we believe could be open for different strategic options over the next two, three years. And we keep those plans in tact when the market conditions are favorable. With regard to the Intelsat objection, we have been operating this business for almost 15 years. And we are well aware of the operating dynamics, the profitability and the costs that are necessary for running such a business. According to the specifications of the tender, we believe that this percentage point offered by the competition is economically not feasible and the tender specifications specifically state that it has to be economically feasible. That's why because of predatory pricing reasons and also because of technical competencies, we have made an objection, and we look forward to hearing decision of the standard commission on that one.

Atinc Ozkan

Analyst

Very helpful sir thank you.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Thank you Atinc.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Cemal Demirtas from Ata Invest. Please go ahead.

Cemal Demirtas

Analyst

Thank you for the presentation, my question is related to your EBITDA margin calculation in the fourth quarter and so I see from your figures, your adjusted figures, the EBITDA margin declines to 39.8% from 41.3% but when I look at the details, I see the gross margin is declining from 35% to 31% and your OpEx is increasing from 11% to 14%, did you have any additional adjustment in the fourth quarter, could you please elaborate the details about your depreciation in other figure that affected the lower-than-expected contraction in EBITDA versus the growth on the OpEx side?

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Okay, Jim, I’ll considering the detail in the question, I'll ask my CFO Osman to answer those questions.

Osman Yilmaz

Management

Yes, hello. Actually third quarter is the highest season in telecom industry in Turkey and seasonally we have higher EBITDA margins, while we have lower margins in fourth quarter, so it's the main reason why we have a lower margin in Q4. And the second question on the adjustment in Q4. As we were the first company in Turkey to implement IFRS 16, we aligned our group companies to this adjustment as well. And in the fourth quarter, we capitalized the radio-frequency costs in Lifecell and BeST, our Ukrainian and Belarusian operations, and this decreased operational expenses by about TRY 100 million in the fourth quarter. It's not a one-off adjustment, by the way. We will see the similar impact throughout 2019 and onwards.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Maybe this is a good point Osman that this was our first year of implementing the IFRS 16 and we did the early application of that. And for our international subsidiaries, the Q4 actually was a specific timing for us.

Cemal Demirtas

Analyst

So compared to third quarter, the additional TRY 150 million is added – additional TRY 100 million is added to your EBITDA calculation, as far as I understand because the numbers in the gross margin declined and the OpEx side is much significant. So it's maybe – it’s higher – it looks like higher than TRY 100 million – maybe that – in terms of the difference. So if you have that gross margin decline, like 5%, 500 basis point and 300 basis point in the OpEx, higher OpEx, the total number is more – putting the adjustment aside, the gross margin is 5% lower and OpEx is 3% higher in terms of the margins. So it's around 7.5% difference. But the difference in 1.5% in EBITDA margin is much lower. So there is a – there might be more adjustments than maybe that figure. That's what I'm trying to understand.

Osman Yilmaz

Management

Actually there are some other minor adjustments, but they are not worth highlighting. We have some other capitalizations, which are like TRY 35 million in total. They are related to capitalization of our digital content. Other than that, what drives our OpEx lower is the cost control that we did throughout the fourth quarter. And seasonally, we don't see – the fourth quarter EBITDA margin is better than what we envisaged for the fourth quarter in the beginning of the fourth quarter. We can explain this by the seasonal effect.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

I think there is also some questions on – from the – okay, let's have the Bank of America one.

Operator

Operator

We have another audio from Cesar Tiron from BAML. Please go ahead.

Cesar Tiron

Analyst

Sorry for the boring question. I was just trying to calculate the Q4 EBITDA margin in the Ukraine and growth to a very weird number, which was about 70%. Is that right?

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

Cesar yes, actually, that is exactly the answer that Osman gave because we did the entire IFRS 16 adjustments in Ukraine in the last quarter. So that figure should have been actually distributed among the four quarters. That's why the last quarter number is slightly higher than normal.

Osman Yilmaz

Management

In fact, from the third quarter. That's why we have seen a substantial increase in the fourth quarter. It will be normalized in 2019.

Cesar Tiron

Analyst

Okay, got it. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

We have a question from Fiera Capital, Gabor Sitanyi, but I think the answers were around our guidance and the EBITDA levels. So we have already answered those. Thank you, Gabor, for the question.

Korhan Bilek

Management

So we have a web question from JPMorgan, asking on how much price increase we implemented in mobile segment in Turkey. We assume this is for the fourth quarter or the full year, maybe we can

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

I think the right way to answer this question is, as you know, we have an inflationary pricing policy. So we are closely adjusting our prices based on those expectations. The only exception was the doubling up our quarter's campaign in Q4, where we have disclosed the effect of that. But our strategy of inflationary pricing has not changed and is a core principle of our hedging strategy.

Korhan Bilek

Management

Ayan, do you see more questions from the phone?

Operator

Operator

Yes, we have one further audio question from Atinc Ozkan from Wood & Company. Please go ahead.

Atinc Ozkan

Analyst

Sorry, Korhan, maybe a final one. I'm looking at Page 6 of your IFRS financials, the English one. And on the cash flow statements in the change in operating assets/liabilities side, the last line, I see an item, changes in other working capital, that is, what, a negative TRY 982 million. And last year, this item was significantly less, around TRY 265 million. Can you elaborate why this item has increased so much and what made you? Thank you.

Osman Yilmaz

Management

Thank you very much for the question. Our short-term trade receivables over the fourth quarter declined by TRY 305 million and other current assets declined by TRY 1 billion during the fourth quarter. The decline in the other current assets was mainly driven by the reduction in our derivatives receivables. It was due to the appreciation of Turkish lira against U.S. dollar. And on the other hand, long-term trade receivables declined by TRY 450 million and other non-current assets declined by TRY 370 million. On the other hand, our trade payables increased by TRY 300 million over the fourth quarter and other current liabilities declined by TRY 400 million. In sum, our working capital need declined by TRY 600 million over the fourth quarter, and the major two drivers were the reduction in our consumer finance receivables and the extended payment terms for our trade payables.

Atinc Ozkan

Analyst

Thank you for the color.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have no further audio questions.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

There is one more question I see from Citibank. The question is there has been a very strong growth in Lifecell customer base. How many of these are new to Turkcell? So the answer to that is in Q4, it's 25% and, overall, we have a run rate of 50% non-Turkcell customers on Lifecell customer base.

Kaan Terzioglu

Management

I guess, this concludes our call. Thank you very much for attending our call and for all the questions. It's always a pleasure to have a conversation and get your questions. I would highly recommend that if you are in Barcelona during the Mobile World Congress, please visit us on 27 of February at 10:00. We're going to be launching our DO1440 product, and we will be also making announcements about new partnerships around the world. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.