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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. And welcome to the AcelRx Third Quarter 2015 Financial Results Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Timothy Morris, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Timothy Morris

Analyst

Thank you, Gary. Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to today’s call. On this call I’m joined by Howie Rosen, Interim Chief Executive Officer and Pam Palmer, our Co-Founder and Chief Medical Officer. During the call today, we will make forward-looking statements, including but not limited to statements related to future financial results, including process and timing of anticipated future development of AcelRx’s product candidates including Zalviso and ARX-04, the timing and quality of data for ARX-04 and the therapeutic a commercial potential of AcelRx Pharmaceuticals product candidate including Zalviso and ARX-04 anticipated results and timing of the completion of the SAP302 study or ARX-04. AcelRx’s plans to seek a pathway forward towards gaining approval of Zalviso in the U.S. anticipated resubmission of the Zalviso NDA to the FDA including the scope for the resubmission and the timing of the resubmission, statements related to the timing of the commercial launch of Zalviso in Europe, financial guidance and cash forecast and potential milestones and royalty payments under the Grunenthal agreement. These forward-looking statements are based on AcelRx Pharmaceuticals current expectations and inherently involve significant risks and uncertainties. AcelRx Pharmaceuticals actual results and timing of events could differ materially from those anticipated in such forward-looking statements and as a result of these risks and uncertainties, which include, without limitations, risks related to any delays or inability to obtain and maintain regulatory approval of its product candidates, including Zalviso and ARX-04, its ability to successfully complete the additional clinical study requested by the FDA to support the resubmission of the Zalviso NDA, its ability to timely resubmit the Zalviso NDA to the FDA and to receive regulatory approval for Zalviso. The fact that the FDA may dispute or interpret differently positive clinical results obtained to date from the pivotal Phase 3 SAP301 ambulatory surgery study there so forth, its ability to complete Phase 3 clinical development of ARX-04, inability to successfully manufacture Zalviso to meet the requirements of Grunenthal and potential delays in the timing of the European launch. The success, cost and timing of all product development activities and clinical trials, including the SAP302 ARX-04 trial, any delays or inability to obtain and maintain regulatory approval of its product candidates including Zalviso in the United States and Europe its ability to receive any milestones or royalty payments under the Grunenthal agreement and the timing related thereto. Its ability to obtain sufficient financing, the accuracy of AcelRx’s estimates regarding expenses, capital requirements and the needs for financing and other risks detailed in the Risk Factors and elsewhere in AcelRx Pharmaceuticals U.S. Securities and Exchange filings and reports, including its quarterly report filed on Form 10-Q filed with the SEC on August 4, 2015. AcelRx Pharmaceuticals undertakes no duty or obligation to update any forward-looking statement contained in this presentation and as a result of new information, future events or changes in its expectations. I will now turn the call over to Howie Rosen, Interim Chief Executive Officer.

Howie Rosen

Analyst

Thank you, Tim. And I’d like to thank everyone for joining us this afternoon for our third quarter call. During today’s call we’ll cover the following. Business highlights and accomplishments for the third quarter, and update on ARX-04, our plans for Zalviso in the U.S. and a brief review of the third quarter financial results. Let me start with our recent accomplishments. The third quarter of 2015 was mark by considerable progress for AcelRx. On September 9th, we announced positive results from SAP301. In the study, ARX-04 single 30 micrograms sufentanil sublingual tablet in a pre-filled, single-dose applicator met primary and secondary endpoints in a multi-center, double-blind, placebo controlled Phase 3 trial in patients with moderate-to-severe acute pain following ambulatory abdominal surgery. These results demonstrates that patients receiving short-term treatment with ARX-04, experienced significantly greater pain reduction compared to placebo, as measured by the time-weighted summed pain intensity difference over the first 12 hours of treatment or SPID-12. Pam will provide some additional information from SAP301 in a moment. On September 22nd, we in our commercial Grunenthal announced that the European Commission approved Zalviso sufentanil sublingual tablet system for the management of acute moderate-to-severe post-operative pain in adult patients in a hospital setting. The marketing authorization was granted for the 28 EU member states as well as for the European Economic Area countries. Grunenthal expects the product to be available to Western European patients in the first half of 2016. The approval triggered a $15 million milestone to AcelRx from Grunenthal which we expect to receive in fourth quarter of 2015. On September 21st we announced the monetization of the expected royalty stream from Grunenthal sales of Zalviso in Europe. AcelRx receive $65 million from the sale to PDL BioPharma Inc. Tim will speak later about this transaction. Finally based…

Pam Palmer

Analyst

Thanks Howie. As previously announced in the SAP301 trial ARX-04 met primary and secondary end points in the multi-center double-blind placebo controlled Phase III trial designed to study the short term treatment of patients with moderate-to-severe acute pain following ambulatory abdominal surgery. Results demonstrate that patients receiving ARX-04, a 30 microgram dose of sublingual sufentanil experienced significantly greater theme reduction compared to placebo as measured by the time weighted sum to pain intensity difference over the first 12 hours of treatment or SPID-12, the trial enrolled adult patients undergoing outpatient abdominal surgery procedures at four clinical sites in the United States. Following surgery 163 patients were randomized to repeat either ARX-04 or placebo in a 2 to 1 active to placebo ratio. ARX-04 or placebo was administered by the site staff as requested by the patients, but no more than once per hour, the intent to treat for ITT population in the study averaged 40.9 years of age with an average body mass index of 27.5 and had a higher percent of females to male, 68% to 32%. 89% of patients entering the study completed the 24 hours study period. Baseline demographics were evenly distributed between treatment arms with approximately 50%, 30%, and 20% of the patients undergoing abdominoplasty laparoscopic surgery, herniorrhaphy respectively. The primary end point of the study was a different in the SPID-12 course patient receiving ARX-04 compared to those receiving placebo. SPID-12 scores were 25.8 for the ARX-04 treated patients and 13.1 for placebo acute patients, the difference between the two groups being highly statistically significant. The baseline pain scores for ARX-04 and placebo patients were 5.6 and 5.5 respectively. Statistical significance for ARX-04 over placebo was achieved as early as 15 minutes, the first interval in which pain liquid stepped, patients were allowed either ARX-04…

Timothy Morris

Analyst

Thank you, Pam. Earlier today, we reported financial results for the third quarter and the first nine months ended September 30, 2015. I’ll refer to you that press release for specific details on the actual results. Net income for the third quarter of 2015 was 5.1 million or $0.11 basic and diluted net income per share. This compares to net income of 700,000 or $0.02 basic net income per share and $0.13 diluted net loss per share for the third quarter of 2014. That increase in net income and income per share is primarily due to revenue under AcelRx’s Zalviso collaboration license agreement with Grunenthal and AcelRx AcelRx’s contract with the Department of Defense for ARX-04 development. In general G&A expenses decreased as a result of the cost reduction plan implemented at the end of March 2015, while other incomes decreased in the third quarter of 2015 as compared to the third quarter of 2014. For the third quarter of 2015 AcelRx recognized revenue from the Grunenthal CLA of 13.9 million. As previously mentioned, we are entitled to receive a milestone payment of 15 million related to the approval of the MAA in Europe, which we expect to receive in the fourth quarter of which 13.2 million was recognized as revenue during the third quarter of 2015. In the third quarter of 2014, we received a milestone payment of 5 million related to the MAA submission of which 4.6 was recognized as revenue. Revenue attributed to the research and development work performed under the DoD contract was 1.6 million for the third quarter of 2015. There was no such revenue recognized for the third quarter of 2014. For the nine months ended September 30, 2015, AcelRx reported net loss of 13.9 million, or $0.31 basic net loss per share and…

Howie Rosen

Analyst

Thanks Tim. So, far in the fourth quarter we are continuing to make good progress. To recap based on the teleconference we held with the FDA in early September regarding the regulatory pass for Zalviso, we have submitted a protocol for an additional clinical study to address concerns raised by the FDA and to assess the overall performance of the device. We are undertaking efforts to be ready to initiate the study early next year. We also initiated a study of ARX-04 in the emergency room. The study is designed to provide experience in the setting and to add to the safety database. We are looking forward to the pre-NDA meeting with the FDA in December in discussing timing for submitting the ARX-04 NDA. Approval of Zalviso in the EU was a great accomplishment, and we look forward to working with our supply chain partners to manufacture commercial products for Grunenthal’s launch of Zalviso in Europe next year. After many years of dedicated work by our employees it is exciting to anticipate seeing patients benefit from our first product. We'll now open the call up to questions.

Operator

Operator

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Randall Stanicky with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

James Chen

Analyst

Hi, this is James Chen on for Randall. For Zalviso rest of the world post the EU approval has there been any interest that has stirred since then and how do you feel potentially balancing collecting royalties on additional ex-U.S. region or potentially monetizing it, helping the launch of Zalviso or ARX-04 in the U.S.?

Howie Rosen

Analyst

Sure James yes, there is definitely interest outside of the U.S. and Europe for Zalviso, we'll continue to carry on those discussions that have actually added new parties to the mix that's part of the focus for our meeting next week at the BIO conference in Munich, it's difficult to say exactly what the potential for those territories are and we -- I would say that South America and Latin America is of interest, Asia is of interest. China is a little bit challenges because of the timeline. And then potential parts of Eastern Europe and then the Middle East and with Africa region is another one. So, we'll continue those discussions clearly with the approval in Europe, it's a little bit easier in those territories to get partners and to seek approval so we will continue those out. Now historically those haven't been as lucrative as Europe or the U.S. but they should provide some proceeds. We haven't gone far enough long in those discussions to really determine whether to weigh the monetization of royalty there is, collecting royalties ourselves to not see that probably more of a financial question then not, so we'll continue to look at that because having some cash flows as you suggest to help launch ARX-04 in the timeline would be nice, but we'll continue to weigh out those options and move all those discussions forward.

James Chen

Analyst

And perhaps just one more for ARX-04, at least before you guys have mentioned peak sales potentially 1.3 billion, potentially around the 65% salesforce, just wanted to confirm everything's on schedule starting in September I believe and anticipated on results first quarter and can you talk about the biggest differences between targeting the ER and the ambulatory surgery care market and what might be some of the challenges there? Thanks.

Timothy Morris

Analyst

Sure and I will ask Howie to chime in as well the information that Gina presented at our Analyst Day could have potential peak sales of about $1.3 billion, but clearly you would need more than a 65% salesforce to get there, so I think the 65% was something in from a launch standpoint in terms of targeting the initial market of both the emergency room and the ambulatory surgery centers, each are slightly unique characteristics, but it felt that if you could launch with a relatively sufficient salesforce of probably 65 into both of those areas. So I think for us when we think about the ER -- obviously there is about 5,000 ERs there. A lot of this work is very similar to some of the profiling work we had done with Zalviso. You can look at it geographically and size it the right way. In this case the ER there is reimbursement component too which actually might help the uptake from that standpoint. So obviously a lot more work to be done, but for right now that’s kind of where we’re comfortable. The ambulatory surgery centers while there is a fair amount of those at least from a corporate standpoint there is some concentration of ownership. To the extent you could take advantage of a corporate formulary or corporate purchasing or procurement process. We could do that with a relatively smaller efficient team. Clearly the pull through would have to happen at the local level and geographies where we already have reps, so we believe there is efficiency there. So at least initially we think that’s kind of the targeted how we would plan to launch and obviously there a lot more work to be done there.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Boris Peaker with Cowen. Please go ahead.

Boris Peaker

Analyst · Cowen. Please go ahead.

So the first one is on ARX-04, I am just curious is there any patient or physician training required with this drug specifically and how and when would this training occur?

Pam Palmer

Analyst · Cowen. Please go ahead.

Hi, it's Pam. No there isn’t -- this is a standard nurse administered drug. So they are very simple instructions on how to use the single dose applicator which is just a two step procedure. So it's almost like giving a syringe to a patient, but obviously it's not invasive and sublingual.

Boris Peaker

Analyst · Cowen. Please go ahead.

And in terms of getting other such drug approved in a hospital formulary have you had discussion with K. Walters for doing that I am just curious what are they specifically looking at and how sensitive would that be to pricing in that setting?

Howie Rosen

Analyst · Cowen. Please go ahead.

Yes, we have had some discussions around that at least the early response is, they like profile of the drug, they like some things about the onset, they like the PK level and also a more predictable offset. From our pricing standpoint you got to remember the emergency room is a little different animal than your standard hospital procedure where it’s included as part of the ERG. So at least the clearer feedback to-date has been very positive. I think the pricing at least that we have with the U.S. government is at $20 per application. Most of the folks that we talked to and Pam has been out at some for her medical meetings, I think the response has been not bad it's clearly not a barrier. Obviously there is more work to be done on the pricing and with payors and we are doing that. But today I think the KOLs have been very responsive at least to that as a core growth.

Timothy Morris

Analyst · Cowen. Please go ahead.

One other thing that is important that we learned in the emergency room as well as that there is -- if you're getting someone for example an IV, have to put an IV in order to give them their pain medicine and there is cost associated with that in terms of the nursing time and the items that you need to the IV as well as it takes longer to actually get all that in place and provide pain relief to the patient. So there is more than just -- there is more of a finical economic story than -- and also a benefit to the patient than just substituting one pain medication for another.

Boris Peaker

Analyst · Cowen. Please go ahead.

And my last question was on Zalviso. If you end up starting the pivotal study I guess in that timeline that you estimate which is in the first quarter of 2016. Give a sense of how long it would take to actually complete it?

Timothy Morris

Analyst · Cowen. Please go ahead.

Well the short answer is not yet, because we did propose a sufentanil trial to the FDA and one of the things we are looking for feedback from them is on the size of the trial. So obviously that no one is going to tell how long it will take. But Pam can comment when she wants to we have designed it to be quickly enrolling as I mentioned will be multiple types of surgeries and allow multi modal pain relief as well so.

Pam Palmer

Analyst · Cowen. Please go ahead.

Yes, so we’re going to use the same clinical size we have used for the Phase II and Phase III studies for Zalviso. These folks love the device, love the drug and are very eager to work with us and start enrolling.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Michael Higgins with ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Michael Higgins

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

A couple of questions around Zalviso and then two on 04 personal and Zalviso regarding inadvertent dosing, in your discussions with the FDA have they given you any sense for whether it's more important to have aero rates and on patient basis or more important to have aero rates as we go through all dosing basis?

Howie Rosen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Yes, so they focused on a per patient basis.

Michael Higgins

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

And then also on Zalviso regarding the device failures, I believe the FDA is asking to allow the air rate with the device. Do you know if they are looking for something as they are looking for results on a point estimate on upper bound is that something that you're waiting till the end of the year to find out?

Howie Rosen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Yes we proposed a statistical plan along with our protocol and that is one of the things we’re expecting to comment on as well.

Michael Higgins

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then on 04 should we look in Q4 to see contract revenue pick up versus what we saw in Q3, can you give us any near-term guidance on that would be appreciated?

Howie Rosen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Yes I mean obviously the reimbursement will happen for the SAP302 study. So at what rate, I mean that’s a relatively small study. So as compared to Q3 my guess it is probably going to be roughly the same. We would expect it -- there will be a blip in ’16 with the filing fee which is a couple of million dollars that is included in DoD. So from a contract standpoint, if you assume about the same level that you saw in the third quarter I think that is a safe assumption.

Michael Higgins

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Regarding the entire 17 million should we look for all of to SAP now at some point or is it up to 17 million?

Howie Rosen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

The contract is up to -- it's subject to calculation of overhead rates and fringe rates which can vary and so we’re still comfortable that we should be able to realize a majority if not nearly all of the $17 million. As we go through our year-end and true up those amounts for the two rates I mentioned before and we think there is an adjustment we’d be happy to kind of let you guys know at that time.

Michael Higgins

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Pam, you did some work on Zalvis’s firm economics, would you do the same for 04 and if so when might we see the results of that work?

Pam Palmer

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

Great question I am working on that now. What we did for Zalviso was we presented a poster at the Spring ES4 meeting and then we used that data for the publications and I believe that’s going to be our plan for ARX-04 as well. We’re very excited to work on that type of economic story, I think it almost writes itself on that to having talked to many ER docs about the cost of the nursing time and effort to place an IV in an ER is quite expensive and then you have to the drug cost of the IV opioids and then of course the time for morphine to kick-in which of course takes a while. Having a non-invasive drug administrator too for ARX-04 it is just really helpful. And not only for paramedics and medics in the army but for ER docs and I think that’s going to be a relatively easy paper to write.

Michael Higgins

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

I have got 20 bucks for a dose I am thinking an IV a little lite. Can you give us some feedback that you have heard from docs regarding the cost of the drug nursing time the bag the lines that kind of thing in aggregate has he given any kind of feedback?

Howie Rosen

Analyst · ROTH Capital Partners. Please go ahead.

We really just to this point, we really just have anecdotes and so conventions will at some point do more typical quantitative pricing study and as Pam wants to do the pharmacoeconomic story we will have some solid data on that.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Ed Arce with HC Wainwright & Company. Please go ahead.

Ed Arce

Analyst · HC Wainwright & Company. Please go ahead.

First on your upcoming study which is submitted or working on those protocol, can you give us a little more detail around some of the specific things that you're looking for specific details around the aero rates whether it's patient based or are procedure based on the device?

Pam Palmer

Analyst · HC Wainwright & Company. Please go ahead.

Sure, well endpoints that we’re looking at is where the FDA suggested to us a primary endpoint around dispensing aero and so we have written that up as a primary endpoint to the study that we submitted at a protocol to the FDA. And where advanced testing clearly met that endpoint and we believe that we’ll be able to show that in clinical testing as well. But again until we have the feedback from the FDA. We submit the protocol in line with what they have recommended. So we’re not expecting a huge push back, but we don’t definitively know yet.

Ed Arce

Analyst · HC Wainwright & Company. Please go ahead.

Perhaps you could give us some update as well on Grunenthal’s progress with your launch in Europe?

Howie Rosen

Analyst · HC Wainwright & Company. Please go ahead.

Sure, and actually they are moving ahead at full speed, we have taken a look at their launch plan their commercial strategy they have actually have put a fair amount of working into this Pam actually was at a meeting earlier in September big pain meeting in Europe where Zalviso was unveiled literally to the medical community there. And so Grunenthal will continue those efforts both kind of at the trade level they also have and are beginning an awareness campaign or we might refer to that as a unveiling campaign which they call change paying. They were very effective with this type of campaign in the chronic setting so they are adapting those principals in the flask to the acute setting, they will begin to roll that out and they kind of have a full strategy to look at those digital both traditional PR and press release to roll that out. So they are ramping up, they have a lot of folks involved, it's very significant to them. We don’t know exactly when they are going to launch. But it looks like they clearly in the first half of 2016 and they are going full speed ahead.

Ed Arce

Analyst · HC Wainwright & Company. Please go ahead.

And then just one last housekeeping question, this noncash liability expense for the PDLI royalties that you now have on your income statement, is that something we can expect on an ongoing basis?

Howie Rosen

Analyst · HC Wainwright & Company. Please go ahead.

Yes, unfortunately, who U.S. account for the sale is more debt like under GAAP and so what you see there is an amount that we will take as royalty they are actually collected from Grunenthal and dispersed about to AcelRx and to PDL we will essentially take an interest charge and at some point that we will come off the books, but unfortunately it's around for 15 years until they have reached the capped amount so, we'll have to talk a little bit more about the accounting for that, but it does represent noncash charge and unfortunately it is in accordance with GAAP.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from David Amsellem with Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Michael Chang

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Hey, this is Michael on for David. Just a couple of quick ones, for the Zalviso study, you mentioned that you'd be including other surgery types, I was wondering if you could may be give just give a little bit of color on what types of surgeries specifically and then just a housekeeping one, just wondering if you guys add any color on maybe how we should think about R&D spend moving through the end of this year and through 2016 given that you will have these additional programs running?

Pam Palmer

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Sure David so I'll take the first question. This is not an efficacy study we've clearly beaten placebo many-many times in our trial. So, we can be a little less careful as far as selecting very specific type surgeries, before we've allowed major abdominal hip and knee replacement surgeries which is fairly broad for Zalviso, we're now opening up to other type of surgeries, they could have spine surgery, they've got different types of surgeries just along as they will be requiring systemic opioids for at least 24 hours after surgery and obviously that they have a qualifying pain score that's going to be a moderate to severe pain scoring or its entering the study, so we're just trying to increase the enrollment but we're also trying to be more real world, I think the data from the study, even though it's open label and single armed, will still be very valuable to show the use of Zalviso in other patient populations than we've done before and to look at the efficacy of Zalviso and the use of Zalviso any multi-modal of environment which we also couldn't really do in a placebo controlled study. So, I'm actually excited about this study for many reasons.

Howie Rosen

Analyst · Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

And then on the R&D spend that we moved the current trend is somewhat around between 5 million to 5.5 million. I really don't expect that trend to be any different at least in the fourth quarter and then obviously depending on where we come out with the study with the FDA most likely it won't be dramatically different next year.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Hugo Ong with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Hugo Ong

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead.

This is Hugo Ong speaking in for Biren Amin. Just wanted to get your latest thoughts on the developing competitive landscape in post doc pain, how do you look at say medicines companies IONSIV which recently got approved, Cara is going into Phase III for their kappa opioid receptor agonist and I know Trivina has presented some good Phase II data, I mean if you could share your thoughts? Thanks.

Pam Palmer

Analyst · Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Sure, well there's a lot to cover. I'll be glad to take them on individually. So, IONSIV we were thrilled when they were approved I'm still thrilled -- two companies bidding up on IDPCA is a good thing. We think that from an efficacy standpoint an onset standpoint, a pricing standpoint, we would probably will look more competitive than IONSIV does, but we'll see, we'll see when we get to the market, I think that again the issue with IONSIV is that the one day patch it has some dermatological issues with it and it has really no onset of action so they -- you have to tie for your patient to come for -- you've to maintain them with comfort for three hours, before you can really let them loose on their own with the patch. And so, and that's how we ran our clinical trials and there're advantages to the product and there're disadvantages as well. Regarding the kappa agonist story, kappa agonists have been around for a while as they're not the most profound analgesia the play there really is that you will have some level of analgesia that hopefully has a better safer side effect profile and I'm sure mucilaginous it is always a claim with kappa agonists but they're just not usually that strong of a powerful opioid event when you're talking about few sentinel or sentinels and those sorts of drugs so, I do look at it sort of a different patient population then what we're talking about for our product. Regarding the TRB 130 drug that you're referring to I think it's interesting to buy a smart end story is an interesting one, there data is a little confusing to me in stage 2 they have a side effect profile for their drug…

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Howie Rosen for any closing remarks.

Howie Rosen

Analyst

I just wanted to thank everyone again for participating in our third quarter call. We will be presenting at several investment conferences as we mentioned next month. So we look forward to providing you updates as they come along.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.