Mark Bendza
Analyst · Needham. Your line is now open.
Hey Alex, it's Mark Bendza here. So, good question. On the margins, I'll give you some color there, while at the same time, we try not to comment directly on program-level margins. But we added a slide to the appendix, Slide 12, that basically gives you all of the key components to model 2024. And in there, one of the things we point out is overall cash gross margins are similar to 2023. So, in that slide, there's various assumptions embedded in there around a range of potential revenue capture in 2024 on those new programs. And you'll see that overall cash gross margins are similar to 2023. And lastly, on 2025, the walks -- to think of the walk as what we've said historically is that in a typical year, we have a few tens of millions of dollars of revenue headwinds that we then have to backfill with new business wins. I'd say 2025 would be a typical year of a few tens of millions of headwinds. So, I say a few tens of millions, call it, roughly $30 million, let's say. Then you're adding to that, as you pointed out, the full year annualization of these new programs. Peak years, we think these programs could potentially contribute $100 million or more. But for the time being, until we have some experience under our belt on these programs and see how revenues are trending for modeling purposes, we're assuming a more modest $60 million to $85 million a year. So, you'll get the full year annualization of that in 2025. And then of course, we still have the upside potential from the rollout of our PreCheck locations, which, as I mentioned earlier, once those are fully up and running the full 500 location network, that's several tens of millions of additional upside compared to the revenues we're generating today. And then lastly, we have our new business win seasonality that we go through every year, late this calendar year, early next calendar year is usually around the time that we'll see the results from the government buying season. So, any additional new business wins that come in late this year, early next year will benefit 2025 as well. So, those are some of the high-level headwinds and tailwinds.