Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Tilly's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Gar Jackson. Please go ahead.
Tilly's, Inc. (TLYS)
Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Sep 3, 2025
$3.99
+4.32%
Same-Day
+3.45%
1 Week
-2.96%
1 Month
-1.97%
vs S&P
-5.93%
Operator
Operator
Good day, and welcome to the Tilly's Second Quarter 2025 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Gar Jackson. Please go ahead.
Gar Jackson
Analyst
Good afternoon, and welcome to the Tilly's Fiscal 2025 Second Quarter Earnings Call. Hezy Shaked, Co-Founder and Executive Chairman; Nate Smith, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Michael Henry, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, will provide some prepared remarks and then host a Q&A session. For a copy of Tilly's earnings press release, please visit the Investor Relations section of the company's website at tillys.com. From the same section, shortly after the conclusion of the call, you will also be able to find a recorded replay of this call for the next 30 days. Certain forward-looking statements will be made during this call that reflect Tilly's judgment and analysis only as of today, September 3, 2025, and actual results may differ materially from current expectations based on various factors affecting Tilly's business. Accordingly, you should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements. For a more thorough discussion of the risks and uncertainties associated with any forward-looking statements, please see the disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements that is included in our fiscal 2025 second quarter earnings release, which was furnished to the SEC today on Form 8-K as well as our other filings with the SEC referenced in that disclaimer. Today's call will be limited to 1 hour and will include a Q&A session after our prepared remarks. I now turn the call over to Hezy.
Hezy Shaked
Analyst
Thanks, Gar, and to all who are joining us today. First, I'd like to start by thanking the entire team for all their hard work since I reassumed the CEO position at the beginning of 2024. We believe we are just beginning to see the impact of those effective efforts, and it is encouraging to see. Next, I'm excited to welcome Nate Smith as Tilly's new President and CEO. He brings extensive apparel and consumer product industry experience to Tilly's, and I'm excited for this next chapter of the Tilly's story under his leadership. I remain highly engaged with the company assisting Nate as he transitioned into our company and thereafter. Nate, would you like to say a few words to introduce yourself?
Nate Smith
Analyst
Thanks, Hezy. Yes, I'm excited to be here at Tilly's, and I'm excited about the prospects I believe this business has. I just arrived 2 weeks ago, and I'm getting settled in, getting to know the team and our processes here. I look forward to leveraging my industry experience to continue to improve and build upon the progress being made. I'll have more to say during our next earnings call once I've had a chance to get more familiar with things, but I'm excited to be here and work with the team as we aim to drive further improvements over time. I'll now turn the call over to Mike to share the details about our second quarter results and third quarter outlook.
Michael Henry
Analyst
Thanks, Nate. We're excited that you're here with us, and we look forward to working with you. Now on to the details of our call today. We believe our second quarter results and start to the third quarter demonstrate that we are continuing to build incremental forward momentum as stabilization of our business continues. Our second quarter comparable net sales decrease of 4.5% was within our outlook range and represented a second consecutive quarter of sequential trend improvement from the fourth quarter of fiscal 2024. We had some significant achievements during the quarter, including meaningfully improved product margins, significantly reduced inventory levels, improved inventory aging and reduced SG&A expenses compared to last year's second quarter. Our earnings per share of $0.10 beat our earnings outlook range for the quarter and represented our first profitable quarter since the third quarter of fiscal 2022, nearly 3 years ago. We believe these facts indicate that we are making progress toward improving our business, but there remains much more to do to return to profitability consistently over longer periods of time. On the marketing front, we continue to seek fun ways to build customer awareness and consideration for Tilly's, something that we were doing pretty well prior to COVID. We mentioned Travis Barker's in-store appearance at Irvine Spectrum in late May in partnership with Hurley during our last earnings call. In late July, we collaborated with the Mike Tyson Foundation, the Passion Project and Tilly's Life Center to provide underprivileged kids with some life skill education and an opportunity to meet Mike in our Cerritos store, along with some of our loyalty members and other customers. We've quadrupled our TikTok following to over 169,000 followers since the start of the second quarter last year. Our content creation efforts have evolved and improved and have…
Operator
Operator
[Operator Instructions] And the first question will come from Matt Koranda with ROTH Capital.
Matt Koranda
Analyst
Maybe just to start with Nate. Congrats. And I wanted to see if maybe you would be willing to discuss sort of the broader opportunity that you see at Tilly's sort of primary early priorities after joining.
Nate Smith
Analyst
Thanks, Matt. So I just started really week 2 here and had a great first week and dove in quickly and met the team, spent a lot of time with the executive team. I think my initial impressions are the team has made great strides. When Hezy came back and with Mike Henry and the executive team, they've made great strides. And so initially, the emphasis should be on doubling down on those things that are working well and then, of course, find those areas that we think we can make some course corrections. But again, it's pretty early, but I look forward to working with the team and over the course of the next few months, setting a path.
Matt Koranda
Analyst
Okay. Great. And maybe just turning to the results and the outlook questions that I had. Maybe just, first of all, really encouraging to see the sequential improvement in comp and the positive comp in August. Maybe just wanted to see, Mike, if you could talk about the progression during the second quarter of the comps that you saw and into August. Did things improve each month? And then just anything to call out in terms of the drivers of the August positive comp between traffic and ticket. I know you already mentioned there was a little bit of a dynamic going on in the e-commerce channel. Any more clarity you can provide also on that in terms of product category that, that was in?
Michael Henry
Analyst
All right. Pardon me, I'm writing notes as you're asking all those various questions. So I hopefully remember to address all of them. Let me know if I miss anything in particular. So the Q2 cadence, we did our last earnings call, we mentioned that fiscal May was a minus 2%. June actually slowed down to a minus 7.6% and then July bounced back to about a minus 3% to finish off the quarter. And then as we transitioned into August, we were just below flat in the first week, flat in the second week, and then we've been positive for each of the last 2 weeks to finish off the month at slightly positive overall. All of our apparel departments moved positively in August. That's what's really leading our business, the apparel side of things and all elements of apparel being positive.
Matt Koranda
Analyst
Got it. And then just on the call, you mentioned in terms of the e-commerce vendor category that, that was in as well.
Michael Henry
Analyst
Yes. So not going to name names there given the relationships that are involved. But it was something that was peculiar to the e-com business and a distribution decision made by a vendor of ours that essentially took a little bit of business away from us and gave the metrics there of the impact of that.
Hezy Shaked
Analyst
Let me add to the fact that it's not only us, it's everybody else too. Only our business [ is very, very large ].
Matt Koranda
Analyst
Got it. Okay. So this is a broader system-wide sort of change made by the [indiscernible] necessarily something individual for Tilly's. Okay. All right.
Michael Henry
Analyst
Yes, it's a very good point. It was not just to Tilly's.
Matt Koranda
Analyst
All right. All right. Great. The outlook, I guess, for the third quarter, it looks like it's factoring in kind of a flattish comp despite the growth you saw in August. Maybe can we talk a little bit about sort of why we're embedding the assumption of a little bit of sequential erosion? Is it just some conservatism given the consumer? What are we seeing, I guess, or how do we expect the rest of the quarter to play out? And maybe it's just a consolidation of kind of back-to-school shopping that we've seen. But I just wanted to see if you could unpack the dynamics there.
Michael Henry
Analyst
Sure, Matt. So for each of the last 3 years, August -- fiscal August has been our best performance of each of those years. And then we have seen a significant slowdown once you get past what I'll refer to as the need-based period of back-to-school, we've seen a slowdown in our business during September and October relative to August in each of the last 3 years. So the bottom end of our range is really contemplating if a similar sort of pattern occurs again for a fourth year in a row and is more aligned with what our year-to-date comp of about minus 5%, that's how you get to the bottom end of minus 2%. We do believe our product assortment is definitely better and more current than it was at this time a year ago. We're operating with a lower level of inventory overall and a more current inventory than we were at this time last year. So we're cautiously optimistic that maybe we wouldn't see quite the size of falloff in September and October as we have seen in prior years, but I want to be conscious that, that behavior has definitely been there, and we better contemplate that in terms of how we look at things going forward.
Matt Koranda
Analyst
Yes. Okay. Makes sense. I wanted to see if you guys could talk a little bit about the gross margin and the product margin improvement that you saw in the quarter. It sounds like a fair bit of that is just being cleaner on inventory. We got higher IMU, lower markdowns. But maybe if you could just talk about health of the current inventory and assortment where it stands now. It looks like efficiency is looking better, down -- inventory is down on a per store basis as well as being down on a gross dollar basis. But I wanted to see if you could talk about the health of inventory there.
Michael Henry
Analyst
Right. So the inventory definitely is healthier, and you just noted all the headlines about it. We purposely planned this year, as I said, I might have said it 2 quarters ago that we were going to run through this year with significantly reduced inventories all year long. That was a purposeful plan. We all put our minds together and believe that we had just been buying too much to say it as plainly as I can across all product areas and took a really hard look at our past behaviors and tried to be a lot sharper in terms of our commitments for this year and try to push ourselves more into a chase mode on things that are working really well and not to be so overbought in things that are turning very slowly. So we think we're seeing the benefits of that. When you see inventory down 14.5%, that's with a store count that's down 6%. So as you noted, it is lower on an overall store-by-store basis, and yet we're still able to produce a positive comp in August, meaningfully improved product margins in the second quarter. We'd expect a similar type of behavior in terms of basis point movement in product margins in the third quarter. So pleased to see the fruits of that labor to try to be more efficient in our inventory management this year.
Matt Koranda
Analyst
Okay. Maybe just one other one on gross margins, if I could. With respect to tariffs and any vendor pricing requests or pressure that we've seen, maybe could you guys talk about, are you seeing any sort of pricing changes from vendors in response to tariffs? If so, kind of what is that looking like? And what does that sort of start to filter through the P&L?
Michael Henry
Analyst
Well, everything is filtered into the outlook that we gave based on what we currently know. And all we can really tell you is what we're seeing in our go-forward purchase orders and the net differences in costs as well as retail prices. There are some instances where our third-party brands are moving price to consumer as well as cost to us, so then the net difference doesn't end up being much at all. That's why you might be surprised at how low we're seeing that net impact of $0.5 million that I mentioned and it not being something higher, it's because there's a whole bunch of things going on. Certain brands adjust price while they adjust cost. We've changed sources for certain programs with sharper cost than what we might have had a year ago. So there's a lot of different moving pieces to this. It's not a simple answer.
Matt Koranda
Analyst
Yes. Okay. All right. Fair enough. And then just last one, I guess, on SG&A, good cost containment there. And it looks like, I guess, the bulk of the savings on a year-over-year basis were from store labor. Is there more to come there? I guess I've always gotten the sense that, that's a hard line item to move, but you guys moved it successfully. Maybe just talk a little bit about where you see opportunity for further cost containment there.
Michael Henry
Analyst
Sure. We'll continue to see some store labor savings. We believe in both Q3 and Q4, we should see a similar dollar movement in SG&A below LY in the third quarter. Again, you've been around us for a number of years. You've heard us talk about this over the years with all the constant increases in minimum wage, particularly here in California, where almost half of our stores reside and all our distribution operations reside, those minimum wage impacts have an outsized impact on us relative to others that maybe aren't so heavily penetrated in California. So it has forced us to take a really hard look at our payroll metrics each and every year. I'll never claim that we're perfect at it or can't continue to refine it. And believe me, there's a lot of scrutiny on this. And we believe there still will be opportunity for us to improve upon that, and you'll continue to see lower store payroll dollars and some other expense savings in each quarter as we go forward for the rest of the year.
Operator
Operator
This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Mike Henry for any closing remarks. Please go ahead, sir.
Michael Henry
Analyst
Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. We look forward to sharing our third quarter results with you in early December. Have a good evening.
Operator
Operator
The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect.