Ramesh Kumar
Analyst · Steven Allen, a private investor. Mr. Allen, your line is now open. Our next question comes from the line of Kumaraguru Raja with Noble Capital
So thank you very much. These are very good questions. So the first question regarding the expansion of the data, there are multiple reasons to expand. One is we are frustrated that we can’t start the new pivotal trial because we have to go through the scientific advice process and then the SPA process. It takes time. Meanwhile there are patients who cannot be enrolled, even though all the sites want to keep going. So this was a way to do a Phase 2B, okay, to satisfy the needs of the patients, needs of the sites and for us to continue exploring this very promising combination. Can we use this data for Phase 3? I doubt it because Phase 3 is a randomized study. This is a single arm study, but what we can use is to amend if we need to the Phase 3 trial to make it better for the patients, from quality of life standpoint and make it better to attract new sites by having more data. So a lot of - there's never any negative in having more data. So this is - in one way it satisfies the need for having more data, which we can certainly present in future meetings. So that’s the answer to the first question. Hope that was clear. And to the second question, yes, very happy to report that our CDK4/6 + ARK5 compound for ON 123300, has issued patents. The patents are issued in the US, Europe, Japan, just about everywhere in the world. So from a IP point of view, it stands apart from Palbociclib, which is the Pfizer’s Ibrance or from Ribociclib or Abemaciclib, which are the other compounds from big pharma. So unique starting position, unique mechanism reaction involving CDK4/6 + ARK5. And to the extent that we know, because we haven't done clinical studies, the data, the efficacy data is very comparable to these three compounds from Pfizer, Lilly and Novartis. There are some advantages, which we have presented on - published for example in retro study in sideline shows that our drug works both in Rb positive and Rb negative sidelines, which is the distinction. And new mice xenograft studies show that our drug works as a solo, single agent whereas those other drugs require a combination to be effective. So in addition, because of the ARK5 modality in the molecule, we're able to go beyond breast cancer, beyond solid tumors. We can go into blood cancer such as mantle cell lymphoma, and lymphoma itself. So it provides us A additional opportunity, B faster out to approval. And I want to clarify that all of these statements are based on published pre-clinical studies. We are not yet in the clinic and the way things are going right now, they could be in the clinic if you wanted to push this program or have a partnership that pushes this program within one year.