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Trimble Inc. (TRMB)

Q4 2012 Earnings Call· Tue, Feb 5, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Thea and I will be the conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Fourth Quarter and Fiscal 2012 Earnings Conference Call. (Operator Instructions) After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions) Thank you. I will now turn the conference over to Ms. Willa McManmon. Ma’am, you may begin.

Willa McManmon

Management

Good afternoon. This afternoon we will refer to non-GAAP measures which are reconciled to GAAP measures in our earnings press release and web tables, which can be found on our website at www.trimble.com. We’ll also make forward-looking statements including our expectations for the first quarter and fiscal 2013 financial results. We wish to caution you that these statements are predictions and that actual events may differ materially. The periodic reports that we file from time-to-time with the Securities and Exchange Commission including the Company’s Form 10-K and 10-Qs discuss important factors that could cause the actual results to differ materially from those contained in our forward-looking comments. A replay of this call is available by phone and on our website. Dial-in information is contained in our earnings press release. With that, I’ll turn the call over to Steve.

Steve Berglund

Management

Good afternoon. Overall fourth quarter results were healthy and were achieved in – and included an improving picture in residential and commercial production in the U.S. and continued macro uncertainties in both Europe and the U.S. The quarter concludes a year of strong performance. Revenue growth for total 2012 was 24%, which consisted of organic growth at 15% measured with constant exchange rates and 9% attributable to the combination of acquisitions and exchange rate effects. Non-GAAP operating earnings were up 36% and non-GAAP operating margins expanded from 17.8% to 19.5%, which represents the best fiscal year performance ever for Trimble. These 2012 results should provide a basic template for accessing 2013. Our overall competitive product and marketing positioning is, if anything, better than it was a year ago since the acquisitions and product extensions over the 24 months have expanded our addressable market and provide greater scope for action. The competitive environment remains largely unchanged and presents no immediate challenges. We currently anticipate continued double-digit organic growth in 2013 with an acquisition kicker of approximately 5%, which gives us an aggregate growth projection of 15% or more. The current environment makes it impractical to be particularly precise in projecting organic growth. This lack of precision results from a combination of factors that provide both potential upside and downside adjustments to the 2012 template. Our outlook assumes modest improvements in the U.S. residential and commercial construction markets relative to 2012. If the current accelerates towards what we regard as the long-term normalized rate, this will represent an upside to our expectations. We are assuming Europe will continue to limp along in its current state and we therefore remain cautious about what the continent can deliver. If it reverts to crisis, this would have a downside impact on expectations. On the other…

Raj Bahri

Management

Today I’ll discuss the non-GAAP numbers. The GAAP numbers as well as reconciliation from GAAP to non-GAAP are detailed in our earnings press release. Fourth quarter 2012 revenue of $515.5 million was up 18% as compared to the fourth quarter of 2011. Fourth quarter 2012 non-GAAP operating income of $85.1 million was up 24% as compared to the fourth quarter of 2011. Non-GAAP operating margin was 16.5% of revenue as compared to 15.8% of revenue in the fourth quarter of 2011. Margin expansion was driven by operating leverage and higher software mix partially offset by the impact of acquisitions and costs associated with Trimble Dimensions, our biannual users conference. Non-GAAP net income of $73.4 million for the fourth quarter of 2012 was up 8% as compared to the fourth quarter of 2011. Diluted non-GAAP earnings per share in the fourth quarter of 2012 were $0.57 as compared to diluted non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.54 in the fourth quarter of 2011. The fourth quarter tax rate was 16% versus 8% in the fourth quarter of 2011. The higher year-over-year tax rate reflects the absence of R&D tax credit in the quarter, as well as the geographic mix of profits partially offset by a true-up of deferred tax accounts. Fiscal 2012 revenue of $2 billion was up 24% as compared to fiscal 2011. The organic growth rate excluding the impact of foreign exchange and acquisition was 15%. Fiscal 2012 non-GAAP operating income of $397.3 million was up 36% as compared to fiscal 2011. Non-GAAP operating margin was 19.5% of revenue as compared to 17.8% of revenue in fiscal 2011. Improvement in non-GAAP operating margin were due to leverage on higher revenue and product mix from the software. Non-GAAP net income of $339.6 million for fiscal 2012 was up 25% as compared…

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) The first question will come from Rich Valera with Needham & Company. Rich Valera – Needham & Company: Thanks, good afternoon gentlemen. Steve, was just hoping you could give a little more color on the U.S., more particularly the housing recovery and it sounds like you’re seeing a little bit of benefit from that, but if you could put a little more color on that? And then if you’re seeing at this early stage in the first quarter any change at all related to kind of the budget issues out there? Or do you think it’s going to be kind of a similar environment to what you saw in the fourth quarter? Thanks.

Steve Berglund

Management

Yeah, first of all, relative to the housing – and I would say housing and commercial, the commercial tends to be a bit more regional, but I think the two go a little bit hand in hand here. So during 2012 we were – talked about residential and commercial pretty much through the year of 2012. And early on in the year we were talking about anecdotes, people were talking about the possibility of projects occurring. I think in the second half of the year, particularly later in the second half of the year, we started to see these – the talk of projects actually get converted into projects. So I think that it’s definitely on the upswing. I would say that against historical standards and the historical standards of anything prior to 2008 it’s still pretty anemic relative to those standards, but there is improvement. So I think that in general what we’re expecting is then an improving environment during the course of the year. But I think it’s still early enough; it’s hard to really understand how strong, how pervasive it might be and I think it’s still being held hostage to kind of macro events as well. So still early days, but I think we’re now willing to talk about an actual improvement year-to-year, whereas up until late in the year it was all very kind of latent. As far as the budgetary effects, I think that it was definitely an effect in the fourth quarter. We saw in some cases relatively active postponement, citing the budget uncertainty, from the fourth quarter into the first quarter. We had anticipated a lot of that; the early signs were there and it actually turned up to be relatively operative. So for the first week – for the first month…

Steve Berglund

Management

Right. Well, I think the strong segment, as it was throughout 2012, is really the heavy civil, the machine control aspects of construction. A strong 2012; we would expect it to be strong in 2013. In part because the SITECH effect is becoming more real; we’re getting I think more mature presence in the market; we are getting a stronger presence in the market and I think that effect is being felt. I would say at this point in time is what we’re calling building and construction, the construction of – the vertical construction of buildings is showing signs early – what I’d call early signs of strength. So particular with software elements of that; we’re seeing software license activity in a number of the businesses showing strong year-to-year growth, which is I think both a statement about the fact that there is some confidence returning to that marketplace and contractors are – contractors and owners are starting to feel like they can make prospective investments. And I think it’s also a matter of okay, as we build out the product line – some of this was just strategic execution on our part. So I would say is heavy civil, machine control, machine oriented aspects of it are still the central point of strength, but we’re seeing the building construction element start to show more signs of life and we’re expecting that will continue into 2013. We wait and see what happens in – on the survey instrument side, but generally our outlook there is positive; it’s just a question of how much this uncertainty – how long this period of uncertainty may last into 2013. Rich Valera – Needham & Company: That’s helpful. And for Raj quick one on tax rate I thought you said earlier in your prepared remarks 17% to 18% going forward because I think of the strengthening euro but then you guided for 14% to 16% in the first quarter. What’s going on with the tax rate?

Raj Bahri

Management

I think Q1 will have a catch-up for the R&D credit, the legislation was passed in January, and it’s retroactive to January of 2011, so we have a catch up... Rich Valera – Needham & Company: Oh, I got you.

Raj Bahri

Management

In Q1. But the full year will be around 17%. Rich Valera – Needham & Company: So does that mean we should model actually – so about 17% for the whole year, so a little bit above 17% for the remaining three quarters?

Raj Bahri

Management

Yeah. That would be a conservative guidance. I mean as I mentioned in my script, the international profits, we have a structure where we don’t pay taxes as long as we don’t bring the profits back. And especially Europe, if Europe, the mix continues, you know, how Europe continues to be weak, so as a conservative guidance I think that’s appropriate. Now if Europe does come back, the tax rate becomes better. Rich Valera – Needham & Company: Right, okay. And final one for me and I’ll yield the floor here. I’m just – in terms of TMW contribution, are you willing to say how much revenue that contributed in the fourth quarter?

Raj Bahri

Management

You know, we had said that there will be a big revenue hair-cut in – for TMW in Q because of the deferred revenue hair-cut. So we did – said that that would not – that would add some revenue and it added around $15 million, $16 million of revenue. And we said on an EPS basis it’ll be breakeven to slightly dilutive. So that hurt our operating margins. As I mentioned in my script, our margins were dragged down because of acquisitions and Dimensions. We were up – in spite of those two things we were still up year-over-year on margins. But both those things, the Dimensions cost as well as the acquisition was a drag on margin in Q4. And the acquisition impact, the dilution will continue a little bit in Q1 as well, of TMW, and really Q2 we’ll come to a steady state on these acquisitions. So these acquisitions will no longer be a drag in Q2 going forward. In fact, TMW is a very – as we said, you know, it makes – it has a run rate of $100 million of revenue and it has margins around the 25% – north of 25% range. Those really come into play in from Q3 – Q2 onwards. It will be a drag in Q4 – it was a drag in Q4 and it will be a drag in Q1 as well on our margins Rich Valera – Needham & Company: Understood. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Jonathan Ho with William Blair. Jonathan Ho – William Blair: Hey, guys, congratulations on the quarter.

Steve Berglund

Management

Thank you. Jonathan Ho – William Blair: Just relative to your guidance how do you anticipate investments and kind of this – maybe the linearity of those investments going into next year and some of the spending that’s going to support that? Can you just give us a little bit of color around that?

Steve Berglund

Management

Well, I’m not sure I fully comprehend the question, but let me try and you can redirect me as necessary. So I think that when we start to talk about next year – if we start to talk about 2014, frankly, I feel a higher level of security talking about the out quarters and out years more so than just exactly what may be happening in the next three to six months in the U.S. in particular. But I think the – well, the source of the funding is largely commercial decisions; we’re selling ROIs. So I think the appetite for investment overall, short-term considerations aside, is strong. If you look at construction we’re selling productivity and significant productivity into the construction realm. And I think that there is a strong appetite and in fact a growing appetite to invest in technology to capture the ROIs in construction. So I think E&C is overall a positive story relative to both willingness and ability to invest. I think the technology change is probably going to lead to structural changes in construction because those contractors able and willing to invest in technology will get the upper hand competitively over time. So I think it will lead to some structural changes. But I think the willingness and ability to invest on the E&C side is strong. Now there’s a secondary issue here, which is the relative health of state and local spending on things like highways and the like. So there is a government funding issue that is out there, but if anything, that environment somewhat improved to what it was two, three years ago. So I think steady as she goes in that regard. So I think that there are no fundamental limitations relative to ability to invest or willingness to invest…

Raj Bahri

Management

So, you know, as we saw this year we finished almost to a double digit margin – 9.9% – and last year was around 2% to 3%, so we saw significant expansion this year. And we should see an upward trend; as subscription revenue is increasing this margin should trend upwards into 2013. So you should look at a slope upwards throughout the quarter. I don’t want to be precise – give a precise number, but, you know, it should be an upward trend. And we have significant leverage on the subscription revenue, as you saw in 2012. Jonathan Ho – William Blair: Got it. And just one last one for me that’s a little bit more strategic. As we think about the technology penetration story, how much do you see of the organic growth being driven by penetration of the core businesses that you had for a while versus the new solutions and the new applications that you’re now selling? Just wanted to get a sense from you whether you’re seeing a transition point there or whether it’s still being led primarily by the legacy solutions?

Steve Berglund

Management

So I would say as the next two, three years from a contribution standpoint, they’re still going to be heavily oriented towards, as you call it, the legacy businesses, which still have enormous amounts of penetration available to them. And then hopefully over the next two, three years some of these emerging businesses will enter into the conversation more and more and will start to be – start to shift the needle in their own right. But I’d say it’s not likely to see any real rocket ships; that’s just not the nature of these businesses emerging over the next two, three years. It’ll be steady consistent year-in, year-out performance that ultimately leads to a larger business. Jonathan Ho – William Blair: Great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Brett Wong with Piper Jaffray. Brett Wong – Piper Jaffray: Hi, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my questions. Kind of going along that same line. With that shift to software services, looking at 2013 is there a way you can kind of give us a more concrete idea of that contribution there, on a basis points stance or something? Do you think it’s a couple hundred basis points that shift is or...?

Steve Berglund

Management

What, in terms of margin or revenue, or..? Brett Wong – Piper Jaffray: In revenue.

Steve Berglund

Management

Okay. Well, first of all that’s not – internal for the company, that’s effectively not how we look at it. There’s this breakout that we’ve got into the three current categories which Raj can speak to a little bit. But fundamentally internal to the company we talk in terms of providing solutions to the user and the nature of the solution’s typically a bundle of hardware, software, services. And so, yeah, the software content is increasing, it’s increasing all the time and, okay, there are indicators to that, but in reality software as a discrete item isn’t necessarily what we’re typically selling to the users. It’s more often than not a bundle that ultimately is hardware. There are a number of discrete software businesses, but – I’m hoping Raj can be a little bit more articulate – but frankly, we just don’t look at it as a software – software as being a discrete item. It tends to be okay what industries are we providing solutions to and what’s the nature of – what’s occurring in those industries? Not so much ‘how much software are we selling at any point in time?’ Raj do you have some perspective?

Raj Bahri

Management

Sure. So I can give you some perspective. We started breaking down our revenue in three different categories. The product category includes the hardware and the software licenses that we sell, so it does include a combination of both. And then we have service revenue, which is a recurring stream, which is primarily maintenance on the software licenses we have sold and also warranty and those type of things. And then we have subscription revenue where we charge things on a monthly basis for providing the service. So as a combination of service and subscription revenue in 2012 was $473 million and last year the same was $298 million. So in those two categories which carry with it a higher margin there was a 57%, 58% growth rate. Now some of it was acquisition, some of it was organic, but it gives you a direct – and as a result, if you look at the gross margins, we saw a big jump up in our gross margins year-over-year. Our gross margins jumped from 53% to 54.5%, 150 basis points, and that was a reflection of this shift towards higher maintenance revenue related to software and higher subscription revenue. Brett Wong – Piper Jaffray: Okay. Thanks. Okay well let me ask a more specific question within Field Solutions. So looking at kind of what you’re talking about with a bundled solution. As more devices go into the field and you’re looking at an emphasis on Connected Farm, how should we think about that software-service sales mix?

Steve Berglund

Management

Again, there will be a general trend even in agriculture towards what’s called a more software-rich environment. But then the question gets to be is, okay, if on the tractor the farmer is looking at a screen that is controlling the entire system so that what looks to be a piece of hardware probably has tens of thousands, maybe more, lines of code on it. So is that software or is that hardware? So I think that the software content, the relative value of the software in the solution is going to grow. It’s just okay, where’s the line of demarcation between hardware and software; sometimes it’s relatively hard. Now I think there will be a general trend – not really all that evident yet – there will be a general trend in agriculture just as there will be in construction, again very early days in either of these, but where we’re talking about the constructible model in construction, which is let’s call it a very data rich information intensive environment that will tend to shape all other activity in construction, we would start to see the same thing developing in the agriculture. Where you’ve got a sensor rich environment that’s collecting large amounts of data – maybe stretching the point here a little bit – square yard by square yard. So if you look at the amount of acreage planted worldwide, there gets to be a huge data question in terms of being able to do diagnosis and prescription kind of square yard by square yard, again stretching the case here a little bit. And so there will be a major, strong trend in the industry for agriculture to turn into let’s call it a data and software rich environment to make use of all the data that’s being…

Steve Berglund

Management

Well, I think we’re being a little bit more open on construction in terms of what we’re doing. So certainly the acquisitions of SketchUp, the acquisition of Plancal, Tekla, when asked have been all aimed at the goal of what we’re calling constructible model, which to us is something different than the conceptual models, the kind of the cat oriens conceptual models that have been around. But a constructible model in our view is a lot more than lines and vectors and angles and that sort of thing, but actually encompasses a much richer information solution. Everything going on to – that’s being installed on the construction site has a history. And so the solution can essentially reach out and capture a history as well as just the current as-designed plan. So I think construction is closer to signs of evidence and, as I said in the script is, in terms of the platform concept we’re working on, is the first releases will be in 2013. So I would hope as a company that we start to provide evidence during the year of 2013 as to really what we believe – putting it on the line a little bit – in terms of new products coming out in 2013. So I think construction is, shall we say, a little bit more imminent. I think agriculture will play out over a longer period of time. But again there are comparative tidal forces at work here that make agriculture in many ways as interesting as construction. But on that one I’ll be a little more vague in terms of exactly when something’s going to happen. Brett Wong – Piper Jaffray: All right, that’s perfect. Thank you very much for all the color.

Steve Berglund

Management

Thank you, yep.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Paul Coster with JP Morgan. Paul Coster – JP Morgan: Thanks for taking my question. I think most of my questions have been answered. But perhaps, Steve, you can give us some sense of what kind of operating margins you think the business model can now target?

Steve Berglund

Management

Well, I think – well, we’re back to – well, I guess for the fiscal year we were at – on non-GAAP operating margins – we were at a historical high for a fiscal year, of 19.5%. So I would say is that what will drive the margins up over time will be, first of all the software impact. As the software content increases, it will pull greater gross margins. And as long as we’re diligent on managing the costs below the gross margin line, we should be able to leverage that into higher operating margins. And then there’s kind of an overlapping effect, but it’s simply the portfolio effect. So if you look at Mobile Solutions, which is rounding slightly to 10% operating margins, the model should enable us over time to converge on the company average of – current company average of 20%. So there’s a portfolio effect that’s coming out of Mobile. Those would be the two primary effects. But I think – yeah. And so I think – but I think the key thing here – and I think we covered it either the last call or the call before that, is if you take these higher gross margins that we’re generating these days, which are up deeper into the 50%s than they used to be, and if we can return – if we can achieve the leverage to return to R&D, G&A, marketing and selling costs to levels that we’ve had in the past, which are higher at this point in time largely because of the acquisitions we brought in with higher gross margins but also higher costs below the gross margin line. If we can return to levels that we’ve had historically, which would be our overall intent, is, I would say, there – beyond kind of the 20% number that we’re achieving at this point in time – there’s at least two to three points over time that are available to us just through kind of prudent financial management. So I would kind of point at that and say, okay, without necessarily giving a precise timeline on how quickly we get there, but certainly I think the model as we’re operating it has the next two or three points available to us. And then after we’ve achieved that, we can talk about how we do better than that. Paul Coster – JP Morgan: Very good. Thank you very much.

Steve Berglund

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Andrea James with Dougherty & Company. Andrea James – Dougherty & Company: Hi. Thank you for taking my questions. Can you unpack the 15% growth guidance a bit, with 10% organic? Maybe starting with where you’re being more cautious today and then where you’re feeling more confident? And then, I guess, are there any segments that are going to fall below the corporate average and then some will be above?

Steve Berglund

Management

Well, I don’t think we want to be overly descriptive on it. I think that the language was selected in terms of, okay, we believe our organic growth for the year will be double – we said two things, effectively. We said that all else being equal that 2012 represents a template for 2013. So if we could take 2012 conditions and apply them on to 2013, the 15% organic growth that we achieved in 2012 would seem to be the, let’s call it the default option under that scenario. We’re also suggesting that there are moving parts. Relative to the macro economy is, on average, the European economy is likely to be worse in 2013 than it was in 2012, simply because it came down during the course of 2012. In fact if the end condition stays constant through 2013 – it’s an if – Europe net-net will probably be worse in 2013 than 2012. At the same time, if we take the U.S., if that stays the same as 2012, we’ve got a lift in terms of the residential and commercial. So there are a number of effects here that are playing out against each other. So I think that just taking 2012 as a template for 2013 would lead you to the arithmetic of 15% organic plus 5% inorganic at 20%, but we’re not suggesting that is the right number. And – but we’re saying – we’re suggesting that it’s 15% plus something, probably, at this point in time. But until we get some better clarity and just in terms of how the year is going to play out, and particularly how the first half of the year is going to play out, I don’t think we want to be overly descriptive about the year either in aggregate or by segment. But as you heard me say is actually we’re comparatively – with the exception of Advanced Devices – we’re comparatively bullish on all three of the other segments relative to competitive positioning, product that we’re bringing to market and kind of the value that we’re selling into those markets. So, in total we’re actually quite bullish about the year. We’re just not sure what the environment will give us as the year goes on. So, we’re being cautious about the macroeconomics. We’re being – we’re actually quite bullish about our own prospects relative to that, whatever that environment is. Andrea James – Dougherty & Company: That’s actually really helpful, thank you. Just one final one, is 25% incremental margin still the goal for 2013?

Steve Berglund

Management

I think that our state – what we’ve said historically is that 25% is what people should expect from us. Now historically we’ve done better than that, but at the same time I think that we are making a – let’s say, we’re constantly triangulating in terms of how much investment we should be making for the longer term, how much of that gross – incremental gross margin we’re getting we should be reinvesting back into the business in either channel development or product development. And so I think that as a general guide this 25% is a reasonable number to hold us accountable to. At times it may be higher than that, but 25% still is continually raising the corporate average. When the corporate average gets to 25% we’ll need to reconsider what we’re saying. But I think – right now I think that 25% is probably the expectation people should have for us and we’ll see maybe (inaudible) if we have particularly – particular conditions in any quarter, is we may be able to over-deliver on that. But I would say for the year it’s – kind of a 25% number is probably appropriate at this point in time. Andrea James – Dougherty & Company: Thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Steve Berglund

Management

Okay.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Andrew Spinola with Wells Fargo. Andrew Spinola – Wells Fargo: Thanks. Could you provide a little color on how you’re thinking about capital allocation in 2013 in term of say debt pay down, acquisition, share repurchases?

Steve Berglund

Management

Yeah. So I think that we obviously have levered ourselves up here a bit in the last 18 months. A number of assets have become available and we chose to be a participant as opposed to a spectator to the M&A process. I would say in general – without necessarily making a promise of any sort here – but in general the expectation would be that, okay, we revert a bit more to our historical pattern, so making a reasonable number of acquisitions but generally of a smaller nature. So, general expectation – conditions may change – but general expectation at this point in time would be yeah, we continue to make a number of smaller acquisitions, but funding them out of operating cash flow and with the expectation that there will be cash flow available beyond that needed for acquisitions which will be used to pay down debt. I think that’s the general expectation that should be held. Again circumstances may change, but right at this point in time we’re not saying the acquisition – level of acquisition activity of the last 18 months or so to continue into 2013 or 2014. Andrew Spinola – Wells Fargo: Got it. And you had – I think you emphasized your credit facility at the end of last year and I was just wondering if there was any signal from that and just generally how you think about your leverage target?

Raj Bahri

Management

So we did upsize the facility because the financing, you know, was much – the refinancing was cheaper and we put more flexibility on the balance sheet just in case. But there is no intent of using it. And then we also extended the facility for another – you know for five years, so it gave us another two years extra. So those were reasons for doing it. It wasn’t to – there was no signal to say that we are acquiring something big. It was for more flexibility, better cost and extension of time. Andrew Spinola – Wells Fargo: Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Eli Lustgarten with Longbow Securities. Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: Good afternoon, everyone.

Steve Berglund

Management

Good afternoon. Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: I have – most questions have been answered. One question for Raj: on the income statement, the other income number was $9.1 million versus $2.8 million. What was that?

Raj Bahri

Management

Sure. We had a one-time gain. We had a small equity interest in a dealer that we had for a while. We were able to sell it at a big gain, so that showed up in other income. I think it was $6.8 million or so, but we non-GAAP’ed it out. So it’s not in the non-GAAP numbers. It is in our GAAP EPS we have a favorability, but we do not take into account when you look at the non-GAAP numbers. Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: You take it out of the non-GAAP number?

Raj Bahri

Management

Yes, absolutely. Since it was one-time in nature, we took it out. Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: Okay. And the other investment income was the JVs, right?

Raj Bahri

Management

Yes. Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: Now can you give us some idea what’s going on at the JVs at this point, with particularly the one with Caterpillar, I guess, because they basically have shut down a lot of operations for a while.

Steve Berglund

Management

Well, so probably the – just cataloging the relevant JVs here, there are probably four of them, two with Caterpillar and one with Nikon and one with Hilti. So I think the Caterpillar JVs are first of all the one that was created in 2002 CTCT, which is – whose purpose is to design and build on-board machine control. That, as you could probably guess is doing very well. It established new thresholds in 2012, is generating significant profitability and all in all is a significant... Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: A home run.

Steve Berglund

Management

Yeah. It’s a home run; I hope Caterpillar would say the same. The other joint venture of Caterpillar was formed – and timing was perfect – was formed in October 2008 and is 55% owned by Trimble and really is intended to write software that puts the machine in the context of the construction site and that has – that was intended to have a long runway. It is not, at this point in time, adding significantly to the bottom line, but at the same time is on a very significant upside ramp in terms of number of machines the software is operating on. So I think that strategically after some – after a couple early years of, let’s call it, refining what we were really after there, I think that is on a strong upwards trend at this point in time and is impacting the industry as it was intended to do. So I would say that’s still a strategic play, not yet necessarily, financially, all that additive to Trimble. The other two joint ventures for completeness is, we have a long standing joint venture with Nikon, the camera manufacturer, 50/50 Japanese centered to design what’s called lower-end survey instruments. We absorbed the Nikon survey instruments business at the time into the joint venture. That is actually doing quite well, is quite profitable even on a U.S. standard as opposed to a Japanese standard. And the fourth joint venture of note is the joint venture with Hilti, which is a tools manufacturer headquartered in Liechtenstein, probably could conceivably call the premier tools manufacturer for construction. Again that would fall in to the realm of strategic and really is intended to take advantage of this constructible model concept we’re talking about, and access that model and create a – generations of smart tools, tools that are intelligent, that access the model, access the plan and provide a level of intelligence on the construction site. And that’s – so it’s got a long runway. It’s got a long term development program. We’re still in the early phases of that, but that is really intended to be something of a revolutionary force on the building and construction side. So those are the four joint ventures that have some financial relevancy to our other income line, but that’s more or less the rundown. Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: And I don’t have any worries about the ag market for the year, but there is some consternation about what’s going on in the short term, because of droughts and timings and reaction. Are you seeing anything in the first quarter to be – to which we should be conservative on the outlook for the ag market at all?

Steve Berglund

Management

To the extent that we need to be conservative, hopefully we’ve already baked it into the first quarter number. But we’re not overly – we’re not aware of any reason we should be particularly concerned at this point. Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: Sure. And can you – Raj, can you give us the amount of carry-over of the acquisitions that we have in 2013 versus 2005 in revenues?

Raj Bahri

Management

Steve had mentioned that, we can account at approximately 5 points of growth in 2013 versus 2012 from acquisitions. Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: And is that all – most of that in Mobile Solutions or how is it split out among the divisions?

Raj Bahri

Management

I think a lot of it is going to be in Mobile Solutions at this point of time. Eli Lustgarten – Longbow Securities: Okay, I’ll take the rest offline. Thank you very much.

Steve Berglund

Management

Thank you.

Raj Bahri

Management

And TMW being the biggest one of acquisitions.

Operator

Operator

The next question will come from Ian Ing with Lazard Capital Markets. Ian Ing – Lazard Capital Markets: Yes, thanks for fitting me in. Just two questions there. First of all infrastructure to support “big data”, you’ve talked about customers connecting and analyzing a lot more information and in your solutions. So does that mean you’re starting to host some cloud and datacenter services and, if so, where are we in that investment process and is it reflected in the incremental op margin guide?

Steve Berglund

Management

Yeah, so actually I mentioned the Caterpillar joint venture from 2008 and as part of that joint venture Trimble took on the responsibility for hosting the solution worldwide. So really the investment that – the bulk of the investment to kind of bulk up to worldwide aspirations took place in 2008, 2009, and anything from this point on is really incremental. So Trimble has created an internal launch team called Trimble Hosting Services in 2008 that – to basically take on the responsibility for this Caterpillar joint venture and as well as all the other activities within Trimble. So I would say is that there’s the dialogue of what’s inside versus the reliance on the cloud, that’s taking place and that will continue. But as far as any step function infrastructure cost necessary to support the activity, we’ve got the facilities in place; we have the staff in place; we’ve got the organization in place; and really have had for now on the order of, I guess approaching four years. So I think we’ve got that well in hand at this point. Ian Ing – Lazard Capital Markets: Okay. That’s a good explanation. And then at Dimensions you highlighted emerging markets; you talked about opening a lot of new offices, a lot of runway there. It looks like in December that Asia-Pac plus other is down a bit sequentially on an absolute basis. Perhaps you could just dive into that a bit? And how does emerging markets play out this year and what are some of the catalysts? I noticed China railways in the headlines and things like that? Thanks.

Raj Bahri

Management

Sure. I mean, if you look at our full year numbers Asia-Pac was up significantly. Asia-Pac was up like 27%; just to trying to dig the numbers here as we talk. Asia-Pac for the full year was up 27% and the rest of the world was up 9%. Now quarter-to-a-quarter there are sometimes swings, one-times that we just sometimes get especially in emerging markets there are contracts that are up for bid. So we may have – last year I know we had a big contract that was up in India that we won. It was not repeatable in Q4 of this year, so India was down this year $3 million or $4 million in one quarter and that impacted the Asia-Pacific number for this quarter. So you will always have a little bit of swings by quarter, but you really need to look at it on a full year basis. And Asia-Pacific was up 27%. And we hardly had any acquisitions in Asia in 2012.

Steve Berglund

Management

So I think, you know, in terms of kind of overall it’s – in talking about the emerging markets as being regional, emerging markets is that, okay, as kind of indicated in the script is that we’re generally pretty bullish about everything outside of the U.S. and outside of Europe. And that would include places like Africa but certainly Brazil and other parts of South America, China. China is doing – back to doing well after a little bit of a hiatus in 2011. India still kind of early days but a strong upward trajectory. So you name a continent – aside from Antarctica – and we’re probably bullish on it as long as the continents are not North America – well, North America excluding Canada and Mexico – and Europe. So I think the regional emerging markets are actually doing quite well and the key issue for us is just executing to the market potential. Ian Ing – Lazard Capital Markets: So broadly positive on emerging markets, not any particular catalysts for this year?

Steve Berglund

Management

No. No, I don’t think there are – I think fortunately I don’t think there are any particularly unique triggers. I think maybe the one that’s worth mentioning is we tend to have a strong link to China railways, less strong or less dominant than it would have been a couple of years ago. So I think that the railways in China have kind of returned back to a steady state; change in government, kind of the scandals and the issues are behind them. So I think we’re seeing a return to something that we would regard a steady state in China, but that’s probably the only specific factor that would stand out. Otherwise I would say we’re just playing into what’s kind of a mega trend here on infrastructure development in the emerging parts of the world. Ian Ing – Lazard Capital Markets: Okay. Thank you, Steve. Thank you, Raj.

Steve Berglund

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And your final question comes from Jonathan Ho with William Blair. Jonathan Ho – William Blair: Hey, guys, just one quick follow-up question. What was the organic growth rate during the fourth quarter? I think you gave it for the full year but just wanted to know what it was for the fourth?

Raj Bahri

Management

We will be giving more on the full year basis because it varies from quarter-to-quarter but it was double-digit in Q4 as well. Jonathan Ho – William Blair: Great.

Steve Berglund

Management

The issue becomes one of revenue recognition and other kind of accounting considerations, creates some distortions that kind of quarter-by-quarter. So I think that what we’re going to try to point out more is kind of annual trends with some of these – with the volatility taken out of it. So it was double-digits in the fourth quarter, is about as good as we’re going to get at this point. Jonathan Ho – William Blair: Got it. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions at this time.

Steve Berglund

Management

Good. In that case, talk to you next quarter. Thanks for attending.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for participating in today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.