Robert G. Painter
Analyst · Baird.
Rob, good memory. You're right. Last quarter, SMB, we pointed out as a positive in AECO. And I would say that played through again in the second quarter. There's a lot of work on -- I'm talking overall, let's say, -- and by the way, I'm talking the U.S. when I answer this question. There's a lot of work on in the U.S. overall. Of course, there's puts and takes depending where you are in the country and what type of work you do. But overall, the customers have backlog. And in many cases, those larger contractors are working with more of the SMB side to execute and get all that work done. So not a total surprise to us the relative strength that's in that part of the market. It's also a market that's under -- quite underserved and quite underpenetrated, which makes sense given the size of that addressable market and the low penetration overall, that's going to even be, let's say, doubly so in the SMB side. One of the beauties of the work that we've done, both on the systems process, organization side, our own internal transformation is we can shift resources as we move to that named account model and go-to-market, that's what enables it. We can shift more resources to find the more attractive pockets in the market quicker than we've ever been able to do. I would say 5 years ago, we would have been probably quite slow to be able to adapt to these kind of changes in the market. But when you're organized around accounts, it is so much easier to change those motions and, in essence, follow the money. Now what you have to do in SMB as opposed to way to enterprise is you have to be smart about how you approach those customers where you have a bit more of a mix of some inside selling work. You can't put people on an airplane for every account as you move more and more down market. So the digital marketing motions matter more, inside selling motions matter more, that presales, the qualification, all of that matters more, and we're at a point now in this business. And AECO is now $1.36 billion ARR business, and AECO was up 16% in the quarter on a year-over-year basis. We've got scale to operate like this to be able to address multiple pockets in the market.