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TTEC Holdings, Inc. (TTEC)

Q1 2023 Earnings Call· Sat, May 6, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Welcome to TTEC's First Quarter 2023 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] This call is being recorded at the request of TTEC. I would now like to turn the call over to Paul Miller, TTEC's Senior Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations Officer. Thank you, sir. You may begin.

Paul Miller

Analyst

Good morning and thank you for joining us today. TTEC is hosting this call to discuss its first quarter financial results for the period ended March 31, 2023. Participating on today's call are Ken Tuchman, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of TTEC; Shelly Swanback, Chief Executive Officer of TTEC Engage and President of TTEC; and Francois Bourret, Interim Chief Financial Officer of TTEC. Yesterday, TTEC issued a press release announcing its financial results. While this call will reflect items discussed within the document, for complete information about our financial performance, we also encourage you to read our first quarter 2023 quarterly report on Form 10-Q, which we anticipate filing in the coming business days. Before we begin, I want to remind you that matters discussed on today's call may include forward-looking statements related to our operating performance, financial goals and business outlook, which are based on management's current beliefs and assumptions. Please note that these forward-looking statements reflect our opinion as of the date of this call, and we undertake no obligation to revise this information as a result of new developments that may occur. Forward-looking statements are subject to various risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expected and described today. For a more detailed description of our risk factors, please review our 2022 annual report on Form 10-K. A replay of this conference call will be available on our website under the Investor Relations section. I will now turn the call over to Ken.

Ken Tuchman

Analyst

Thanks, Paul, and good morning, everyone. We appreciate you joining us today. We're off to a strong start in 2023 with a beat on both top and bottom line. Revenue increased 8.6% to $633 million on a constant currency basis. Adjusted EBITDA was $83 million or 13.1% of revenue, and non-GAAP EPS was $0.78 per share. As the CX technology and services landscape grows more complex, our clients are trusting us to manage their current CX needs while also seeking guidance for the future. Our full range of AI-enabled CX technology, managed services and operational capabilities has the breadth and depth to deliver strategic benefits to our clients right now while also preparing them for what's on the horizon. Demand for our solutions remain strong as CX executives are caught in a balancing act between the efficiencies of digitization and the empathy of human conversations. With our domain expertise in both CX technology and operations, our business is well positioned to meet this challenge with tailored programs that optimize both digital and human interactions. The 3 trends that I shared last quarter remain relevant and timely. The move to the cloud for CX technology continues. The focus on evolving from reactive support to proactive experiences remains mission-critical, and the advancements in digital CX and AI are accelerating. Given the current focus on AI, my comments today will center on the developments happening at the intersection of customer experience and artificial intelligence. We've been integrating AI technology into our CX offerings for some time. With the current buzz surrounding All Things AI, we plan to share details on our approach to AI with you more frequently. We have many examples of solutions that are delivering high-value outcomes leveraging AI, including using the analytics to simplify and personalize customer journeys, bots to…

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

Thanks, Ken, and good morning, everyone. We're pleased with our first quarter performance across both of our TTEC Engage and TTEC Digital business segments. Our strong performance on revenue and profitability is a result of our disciplined and agile execution. We acquired 20 new clients across the business and have a strong and growing pipeline. I'll begin my review of the quarter with some highlights from our TTEC Engage business. First quarter growth was driven by engagements in resilient verticals where our work is mission-critical and also complex. Revenue from our top 10 clients continue to grow. Our strong relationships and delivery track record with these top clients are enabling us to expand our business with them through new solutions and offshore delivery. In addition, we're seeing a growing number of first-time outsourcers in our new client wins and pipeline. In health care, we had a robust close to the year. This strong performance extended seasonal revenue beyond expectations for several programs into the first quarter. Our depth of knowledge and proven expertise with complex licensed work is driving growth with very large national payer clients and also with regional brands. Beyond our payer segment, we're also seeing increasing momentum in clinical and provider services, which include higher-margin offshore, data management and back-office programs. New deals this quarter included initiatives in provider data management, consumer-directed health and also durable and medical equipment. In addition, our domain expertise across the breadth of the CX health care member journey was recognized by the global research firm, Everest, who noted TTEC as a market value leader in health care BPO CXM. With consumers in the driver seat demanding improved health care experiences, our CX transformation expertise is in high demand. Now on to our BFSI vertical, where historically, many companies have been hesitant…

Francois Bourret

Analyst

Thank you, Shelly, and good morning. I'm excited to be here today and share additional details on our first quarter financial results and provide more insight into our second quarter and full year 2023 outlook. In my discussion on the first quarter 2023 financial results, reference to revenue is on a GAAP basis, while EBITDA, operating income and earnings per share are on non-GAAP adjusted basis. The full reconciliation of our GAAP to non-GAAP results is included in the tables attached to our earnings press release. Over the prior year period, our non-GAAP reporting is also adjusted for gains or losses for foreign exchange included in the other income that impacts EBITDA and EPS calculations. The press release includes the adjusted reconciliation for 2022 to reflect the same. My references to the term on a like-for-like basis describe our revenue growth excluding the impact of foreign exchange translation and treating acquisitions as we own them in the prior year period. Turning to our first quarter financial results. Revenue was $632 million, an increase of 8.6% on a constant currency basis. On a like-for-like basis, growth was 1.4%. Adjusted EBITDA was $83 million or 13.1% of revenue compared to $84 million or 14.3% in the prior year. Operating income was $61 million or 9.6% of revenue compared to $67 million or 11.4% in the prior year, and EPS was $0.78 compared to $1.06 in the prior year. The strengthening of our U.S. dollar had a $6 million negative impact on revenue in the first quarter of the prior year period while benefiting operating income by a positive $2 million primarily in our Engage segment. We are pleased with our execution and financial results for the first quarter. The overall performance relative to our guidance was primarily attributable to extended seasonal health…

Paul Miller

Analyst

Thanks, Francois. [Operator Instructions] Operator, you may now open the line.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from the line of George Sutton of Craig-Hallum.

George Sutton

Analyst

Nice results, guys. Ken and Shelly, I really appreciate the discussion on AI. Certainly, the #1 question that I get from clients is what the impacts are? Ken, I just want to make sure I heard correctly. I think you're saying, at least for now, we see an increased revenue per customer. We see a reduced cost to serve as a result of AI. Am I hearing that correctly?

Ken Tuchman

Analyst

Yes. Well, the other thing that I think what we're saying is that over time, we believe that AI leads to higher profitability because in areas where we can reduce labor costs, that obviously gives us more -- that much more margin opportunity. And it's why we've been leaning into AI for the past several years and readying the company so that we can take advantage of these technologies. It's also why we've made such a massive investment in digital so that we can integrate to all the various different CX systems that exist out there, which is one of the absolute highest priorities if some of them wants to take advantage of AI. You have to have a skill set of being able to integrate to all of the various different systems.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from the line of Maggie Nolan of William Blair.

Maggie Nolan

Analyst

I'm hoping you can expand a little bit more on the hypergrowth segment and just the long-term opportunity that you see there kind of despite near-term dynamics.

Ken Tuchman

Analyst

I'll start out and let Shelly take it from there. Look, the hypergrowth segment is really driven, for the most part, by the consumer. And as you -- it's no secret that many of these e-commerce businesses, et cetera, being affected right now as we move into this post-COVID environment, et cetera. So what I would say to you is that I think that there's a bit of a double-whammy effect between the post-COVID event of people being able to get out and shop in a more historical way that they did in bricks-and-mortar as well as the consumer, although being strong, really starting to shift to more of what I would classify as necessity-type items. Shelly?

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

Yes. And I would just say more near term, Maggie, it's playing -- our hypergrowth business is playing out as we talked about last quarter. So -- and I would tell you, we're starting to see some green shoots in terms of pipeline. We do have some opportunities from a hypergrowth perspective in our pipeline.

Maggie Nolan

Analyst

And then, obviously, it was a nice quarter for revenue. I understand completely that it's too early to remove any sort of conservatism from the outlook. But how are you thinking about costs going forward from here, particularly if you do start to see a little bit of an acceleration in revenue?

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

Well, I think, first of all, as I said in our prepared remarks, right, maintaining an agile cost structure is really important for us, and we'll continue to stay focused on that. We're also focused on executing on the investments that we've been talking about. And we're executing well on those plans. So we'll continue to be agile in adjusting to the environment ahead. Francois, anything to add?

Francois Bourret

Analyst

Yes. Just to add quickly, as we mentioned in the last call, one thing that was key for us this year is building on these investments that we're making to position us well for the next year and this year as well. And so we're considering this investment. Obviously, we're monitoring holistically the macroeconomic environment. But at this point, we are -- keep doing what we said we're going to be doing, focusing on execution and making this investment will make a difference for TTEC.

Maggie Nolan

Analyst

My follow-up to that would be any sort of variation in the cost structure on a quarter-by-quarter basis that we should keep in mind for the purposes of margins?

Francois Bourret

Analyst

Outside of the normal seasonality that you've seen in our business at this point.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from the line of Bryan Bergin of TD Cowen.

Bryan Bergin

Analyst

So I wanted to just ask on the outlook here. So 1Q is a pretty notable beat across all the metrics. Your commentary clearly does suggest some prudence here, but I just did want to ask about whether you've seen any changes worth calling out in sales cycles or the volume commitments across the various cohorts over the last 3 months or if it's really to stabilized and gone according to plan.

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

I'd say overall stabilized and going according to plan, Bryan. As I said, in the Digital business, it's interesting because we have some clients who are moving forward full steam ahead with our cloud migrations and others that we're helping them make the most out of the technology that they have already. So I think good news is we can serve each of those types of clients. On the Engage side, just too soon to understand what the environment in the back half of the year might mean in terms of consumer demand, and therefore, demand from our clients. But so far, we feel well positioned. As Francois said, pipeline is strong. And so -- and our backlog is growing as well. So nothing in particular to call out.

Ken Tuchman

Analyst

Yes. And I would say, not to contradict anything that Shelly just said is, for me, personally, I'm a bit surprised on the positive side in that, I would say that demand is stronger than what I thought it was going to be, that our pipeline is significantly better than I thought it was going to be. And as it relates to closing cycles, on the Engage side, I'd say that they're pretty -- they're very typical, and we're not seeing the kicking of the can that you tend to see when one is anticipating economy slowing down. So I think right now, we're very, very happy with where we're at, but I think that we're also realists. This is probably the fifth recession that I've been through. And we believe that it's smart just to be cautious, and we would rather surprise on the upside versus on the downside. So I hope that's helpful. But what I would say to you is that not only did we feel very good about how we performed in the quarter, we feel very good about how our sales and marketing organization performed.

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

And I'd say also just a lot of growing demand for our offshore locations and capabilities. And I think that's very positive. A substantial part of our pipeline is for offshore services. And so really, really pleased about how that's developing.

Ken Tuchman

Analyst

Yes. And it's one of our commitments to The Street that we're going to put the pedal to the metal on bringing on as much offshore business as possible so that we can drive the margin profile to a higher overall margin. So I'm really pleased that Shelly and her team are very focused on executing on that. And it's -- I would say it's going as planned.

Bryan Bergin

Analyst

Okay. It's all good to hear. Makes complete sense on the prudence here. My follow-up is kind of on the head count and the operations. So can you kind of give us a sense how headcount has progressed since 4Q across Digital and Engage and how you're expecting workforce levels in each segment to trend here over the course of the balance of the year?

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

Well, I can start. I'll give a couple comments here and then, Francois, turn it to you. First thing is, keep in mind, in our Engage business, we have a lot of seasonality, right? So we have seasonality there. And the Digital business, we continue to grow our cost-effective global delivery model. So that was my comment earlier around by the first -- by halfway through the year, Bryan, we expect that actually 30% to 40% of our engineering talent will come from our India and Philippines locations. So we have a big focus there, partly just to be able to meet the growing demand from clients and also just from a margin profile perspective. Francois, anything you'd like to add?

Francois Bourret

Analyst

No. I would just say like it's important for -- specifically for the Engage business to understand holistically the seasonality, how it can fluctuate your head count and how the geo mix can influence your headcount. But right now, we're seeing our offshore head count growing at a faster pace than onshore headcount, supported by the pipeline that we have and the backlog as well that we've seen growing offshore. So...

Operator

Operator

Next question is from the line of Mike Latimore of Northland Capital Markets.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Congrats on the strong start to the year here. The Digital guidance sort of implies improving growth rates in the second half. Can you talk a little bit about kind of just the key drivers to kind of see accelerating growth in the Digital business?

Francois Bourret

Analyst

Yes. So the accelerated growth in there -- with Digital for the back end of the year is really going to come from our professional services. We really have good momentum right now throughout some of our practices, especially Microsoft, AWS. This is really where we see the strength of our backlog coming from the back end of the year. So very -- we're feeling very good for the back end of the year for Digital right now.

Mike Latimore

Analyst

Got it. And then what should we use as a tax rate for the year?

Francois Bourret

Analyst

The guidance we're providing is between 24% and 26%.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from the line of Joe Vafi of Canaccord.

Pallav Saini

Analyst

This is Pallav Saini on for Joe. I was wondering if you can touch on your pipeline for cross-sell opportunities between your Digital and Engage businesses. Maybe provide an update on some of the opportunities, Shelly, you mentioned you're working on the Q4 call.

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

Absolutely. Well, I'd say, overall, as Francois said, our pipeline continues to grow. We're pleased with that. Diversified certainly across industry verticals would be the first point. Secondly, we have a number of opportunities where we're working together across our TTEC Digital and TTEC Engage teams primarily in opportunities where clients want to take advantage of technology, right, whether it's about enabling our knowledge workers and associates that are serving our clients and/or where we're using the technology capabilities to just improve the agent experience. And so I would say no numbers to share in particular, but I would say that's an area that's developing nicely for us as well.

Operator

Operator

Next question is from the line of Cassie Chan from Bank of America.

Jinli Chan

Analyst

So first, I just wanted to ask about revenues. I guess, how should we think about organic constant currency revenue growth progression throughout the year versus the 1.4% in 1Q? I think, typically, in terms of seasonality, 1Q is the lowest in terms of dollars and sequential growth. But now like the 2Q guide is supposed to be a little bit softer than 1Q. So is that kind of reflecting the trough in 2Q and then accelerate in 3Q, 4Q?

Francois Bourret

Analyst

Just to start about the variance quarter-to-quarter. So Q1 is typically a strong quarter for us because this is where we get the flow-through from the seasonal work that starts in Q4 from the prior year. Therefore, for us, the reason we were significantly above the guidance for Q1 is that we had very strong health care volume coming through. Also on the hypergrowth, the softness in revenue already communicated didn't materialize as fast as we thought. So a very strong Q1 from that standpoint. As you move forward in terms of the growth rate for the remaining of the year, our guidance right now is giving you a Digital -- on a like-for-like basis, meaning constant currency if there is any acquisition like in Engage. But Digital right now is at 8%, and you have -- sorry, Digital at 8% and Engage right now, the midpoint of our guidance is at minus 1.4%. But bear in mind that the Q1 results is really putting us in a good position right now.

Jinli Chan

Analyst

Okay. And then for the full year, I just wanted to make sure I have all the pieces in place there. So I think -- are you guys still expecting about $300 million from the hypergrowth clients in 2023? And I believe you guys said that health care, financial services and public sector are now expected to grow about 6% for the full year of '23. I believe it was 7% before. I just wanted to clarify that as well as sort of ask what's driving the softer outlook?

Francois Bourret

Analyst

Yes. Those numbers are still accurate.

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

Yes. I think, Cassie, what I would say is hypergrowth, yes, still in the $300 million range. And I think last time, we said 5% to 7% growth across the other verticals. And so that continues to be our outlook at the moment.

Operator

Operator

Our last question is from the line of James Faucette of Morgan Stanley.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

It's Jonathan on for James. Can you talk through your target delivery mix as it relates to onshore versus offshore outside of engineering talent as you continue to work through your offshore expansion? And then how should we be thinking about the revenue implications of that shift given some of the pricing dynamics between onshore and offshore delivery?

Ken Tuchman

Analyst

Well, as it relates to revenue dynamics, I really don't think that there is any type of a negative impact due to the fact that all the offshore work that Shelly is talking about that we have been pursuing is all net-new business that we're bringing on. There's very little shift of the embedded base to offshore. And there's good reason behind that. Because we have some significant specialty in health care with thousands and thousands of licensed insurance agents and significant specialty in financial services with also licensed requirements and a lot of -- a fair bit of public service in federal, that business typically, for the most part, has no choice but to stay onshore. It's all the net-new business that we're bringing on right now that we're placing in our offshore facilities. And as to what our goals are of Engage onshore versus offshore, I think over time, the goal will be somewhere where we have a balanced portfolio of 50% on and 50% offshore. And we feel very confident that we will achieve that based on the speed at which we're opening new locations and the speed at which clients are taking up that capacity and asking to move to these new geographies and new locations. Do you want to add anything?

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

No, I think that's right. And I mean, I think really pleased with how the client demand that we're seeing and how our pipeline is developing for our existing, but in particular, for the new offshore locations that we're opening up. And I think Jonathan, as we talked about last time, right, we will get to that 50-50 mix or that balanced portfolio over time here. This year, we're certainly looking to expand our offshore by a couple of percentage points. And so that's what we're working on every day.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Got it. And I know it's relatively early days in your offshore expansion, but can you talk through hiring trends you're seeing in some of your newer geographies?

Ken Tuchman

Analyst

So far, we're very pleased. And it's -- a lot of that has to do with the locations that we're picking and where we're going, but we are experiencing no difficulty whatsoever in filling the roles as we open up these new sites. So, so far, we feel extremely confident about the hiring abilities. And frankly, it's one of the many reasons why we decided to start to add all these different geographies is because we wanted to have far more diversification and wanted to be able to have much more certainty that we can hire at a much faster rate, et cetera. And it's absolutely proving to be the case.

Shelly Swanback

Analyst

And of course, we're going into markets where the -- where we think the talent market is strong, right? So, so far, so good, going well.

Operator

Operator

That is all the time we have today. I will now turn the call back to Paul Miller.

Paul Miller

Analyst

Thank you, everyone, for joining us today. This concludes our first quarter earnings call. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

This concludes TTEC's First Quarter and 2023 Earnings Conference Call. You may disconnect at this time.