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TTM Technologies, Inc. (TTMI)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Sat, Aug 6, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to the TTM Technologies Second Quarter 2022 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Sameer Desai, TTM's Vice President of Corporate Development and Investor Relations, will now review TTM's disclosure statement. Please go ahead.

Sameer Desai

Analyst

Thank you, April. Before we get started, I would like to remind everyone that today's call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements related to TTM's future business outlook. Actual results could differ materially from these forward-looking statements due to one or more risks and uncertainties, including the factors explained in our most recent Annual Report on Form 10-K and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. These forward-looking statements are based on management's expectations and assumptions as of the date of this presentation. TTM does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any of these statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or other circumstances, except as required by law. Please refer to the disclosures regarding the risks that may affect TTM, which may be found in the reports on Form 10-K, 10-Q, 8-K, the registration statement on Form S-4 and the company's other SEC filings. We will also discuss on this call certain non-GAAP financial measures such as adjusted EBITDA. Such measures should not be considered as a substitute for the measures prepared and presented in accordance with GAAP, and we direct you to the reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures included in the company's press release, which was filed with the SEC and is available on TTM's website at www.ttm.com. We have also posted on our website a slide deck that we will refer to during our call. I will now like to turn the call over to Tom Edman, TTM's Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead sir.

Tom Edman

Analyst

Thank you, Sameer. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us for our second quarter fiscal year 2022 conference call. I'll begin with a review of our business highlights from the quarter and a discussion of our second quarter results, followed by a summary of our business strategy. Todd Schull, our CFO, will follow with an overview of our Q2 2022 financial performance and our Q3 2022 guidance. We will then open the call to your questions. The quarter's highlights are also shown on Slide 3 of the investor presentation posted on TTM's website. In the second quarter of 2022, TTM delivered an outstanding quarter with revenues and non-GAAP EPS above the high end of guidance despite a challenging supply chain and labor environment and the continued impact that COVID-19 is having on our business. Revenues were up 10.3% year-on-year, the second consecutive quarter of double-digit growth as our commercial markets drove the year-on-year increase. We saw a significant jump in our profit margins in Q2 as many of the cost headwinds that we have faced over the past year turned into tailwinds. Specifically, we saw improved product mix globally, favorable foreign exchange rates as the Chinese RMB weakened against the dollar, lower metal prices and improved productivity in North America. We also enjoyed very strong levels of quick-turn business that contributed to our profitability. I am extremely proud of our employees for delivering outstanding results this quarter. We had previously discussed pay adjustments that we made in the first quarter of this year in North America to increase our competitiveness. Since then, we have seen a general improvement in our ability to attract and retain talent, though the labor market is still tight in specific regions. The price increases that will offset these higher compensation costs are still anticipated…

Todd Schull

Analyst

Thanks, Tom, and good afternoon, everyone. I apologize if I sound a little congested. I'm getting over a cold and I hope you'll bear with me. Today, I'll be reviewing our financial results for the second quarter that are also shown in the press release distributed today as well as on Slide 6 of our earnings presentation that is posted on our website. For the second quarter, net sales were $625.6 million compared to $567.4 million in the second quarter of 2021. The year-over-year increase in revenue was primarily due to strong growth in our commercial markets, particularly data center computing and medical, industrial and instrumentation. GAAP operating income for the second quarter of 2022 was $37.2 million, which included $10.6 million of acquisition-related costs. This compares to $40.9 million in the second quarter of 2021. On a GAAP basis, net income in the second quarter of 2022 was $27.8 million or $0.27 per diluted share. This compares to GAAP net income of $28.3 million or $0.26 per diluted share in the second quarter of last year. The remainder of my comments will focus on our non-GAAP financial performance. Our non-GAAP performance excludes M&A-related costs, restructuring costs, certain non-cash expense items and other unusual or frequent items. We present non-GAAP financial information to enable investors to see the company through the eyes of management and to facilitate comparisons with expectations and prior periods. Gross margin in the second quarter was 20%, the highest level since the divestiture of our Mobility business. This compares to 18% in the second quarter of 2021. The year-on-year increase was due to better pricing and product mix, higher levels of quick-turn business and the fall-through from higher revenues, partially offset by higher year-on-year labor costs, particularly in North America where we had a special wage…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And we'll first hear from Matt Sheerin of Stifel.

Matt Sheerin

Analyst

Yes, thank you. Good afternoon. Tom, I was hoping you can give us a little bit more color on some of the end markets. It looks like you had a pretty strong growth in most of the sectors, but you are calling for auto to be down again quarter-on-quarter. And I'm wondering, what you're seeing some other suppliers. And I know that you're sort of at a different spot in the supply chain than maybe the semiconductor guys, but there's expectations of growth over the next couple of quarters just on production and content. So I wanted to get your read on that? And then also, just on the quick-turn business, could you remind us how big revenue it is as a percentage of sales? And then why are you seeing a slowdown or why did you see a pick-up in the quarter?

Tom Edman

Analyst

Sure. So yes, let me start with the automotive situation. And so overall, obviously, as you pointed out, we had a terrific quarter, a very strong quarter pretty much across the board, and particularly, if you look at those year-on-year growth rates. If we're to talk specifically on automotive, sequentially, yes, down looking at about down 6% or so in our forecast versus -- but we are up in our forecast year-on-year, again about 6%. So if you parcel out what's going on there, part of it is automotive customers and summer shutdowns that particularly impacts Europe and inventory pull plans in Europe. I do think we're seeing a bit of the semiconductor shortage impact. In other words, customers adjusting inventory levels waiting to see when the chips arrive and then at that point, pulling inventory when -- as those chips come in. So you're right to point out, there is a difference there in terms of how our situation versus others. Overall, automotive continues to be a strong market. When it comes to quick-turn and what we're seeing in premiums, we look at this just in terms of it's primarily North America, but we did see some premium activity in Asia Pacific. The activity crosses the board, but particularly critical to MII customers. And you can see, that's really tied to the need for customers as they develop new products to pull prototyping support and other activities related to development. So as we come into the third quarter, again, what we're expecting here is more of a normal pace between premium and quick-turn versus, I would call, normal levels of quick-turn. And that's what we're expecting. We'll see how the quarter develops. As the market start to calm down a bit, that's one factor here. And the other again is just with the summer, you tend to get a little bit less prototyping activity. So again, we'd rather than talk about percentage versus revenue, I think you can look at this as being an unusually heightened quarter and what we're seeing as normalized. I don't know, Todd, if you got the numbers at your fingers here in terms of percentage?

Todd Schull

Analyst

Yes, traditionally, we run on a global basis -- and this will vary between North America and Asia Pacific, as Tom alluded to in his comments. But we typically run around 9%. But what we saw is that was more muted in 2021. And then in the last couple of quarters, it's been much, much stronger. As Tom mentioned, a big portion of that is tied to prototyping activity, but another portion is tied to lead times. And as demand was really accelerating, lead times were extending, people were mixing and matching and accelerating orders or looking for expedited production to better match their supply chain as things -- as parts were coming in. So we definitely saw more of that. And as lead times are coming back down, we would expect to see less of that type. The prototyping activity is more consistent, notwithstanding Tom's comment about seasonality in the summer time, which is right on spot, but it's more consistent longer term. But the lead time component that was driving some of our heightened activity is expected to subside gradually here as we go through the rest of the year.

Matt Sheerin

Analyst

Okay, thank you. And then on the gross margin, I understand why it will be down sequentially, but it still sounds like just backing into that number. Based on the OpEx number you gave us, it still looks like it will still be well above 18%. And as you go forward, given the Telephonics acquisition, are there any cost synergies that you see either on the impacting gross margin or OpEx over the next few quarters or really was that just obviously acquiring that company for the technology and the product set?

Todd Schull

Analyst

Well, we've been pretty public, Matt, about our synergy expectations. We're looking for -- we've identified preliminarily $12 million of synergies that we hope to be able to get through efficiencies here over the next -- by the end of 2024. A lot of that's going to be cost of goods sold, both materials as well as infrastructure, and certainly, OpEx will be impacted that way also. So we will see improvements in their margins. We've talked about how their margins are a little less than ours on average right now, but we expect them to be above our legacy margins here once we implement the synergies that we've identified.

Matt Sheerin

Analyst

Okay. All right. Thanks very much.

Tom Edman

Analyst

Thanks Matt.

Operator

Operator

Next we'll hear from Mike Crawford of B. Riley Securities.

Mike Crawford

Analyst

Thank you. I'm pleasantly surprised you're seeing these tailwinds when others particularly are sitting decommits and material not coming in, particularly on semiconductor side. Is there something in particular you knew what your clients are doing that manage that process better than others?

Tom Edman

Analyst

Well, so I think, Mike, it's -- and Todd, we both commented on the work that we've been doing in terms of meeting customer accelerated demand. And a lot of this -- I have to say 2 big factors, at least as I look at it. One, how responsive our teams are in Asia Pacific as well as in North America, and that takes the full organization. That's the sales team upfront working with our customers, understanding their needs. And then it's really operations responding, responding to make room for products, responding as customers deal with these semiconductor chips arriving out of the blue and then the need to fulfill a program. So you have to be -- I think our team has been agile in responding, and all credit to them. I'd also like to highlight, in North America, we continue to have a challenged labor environment, but our human resources group and operations were able to staff a number of our critical facilities and bring in labor. We still have opportunity to do even better there. We still have North America production for us from a percentage of revenue, about 42% in this last quarter. That's relatively consistent to past quarters. So we still have work to do here as we bring in labor. But definitely, productivity improvements in North America also helping to drive those results. So again, those are the things I would highlight for you, just aligning with customers and meeting that demand profile as it changes. From a direct semiconductor impact on TTM, there's the Telephonics business as we bring it in, certainly more exposed on the semiconductor side. But TTM, even in our integrated product and subassembly work that we do. We do have chipsets involved there, but it's not an overwhelming number of chipsets and our supply chain team has done a good job of lining up deliveries as needed.

Mike Crawford

Analyst

Okay. Thank you, Tom. And then just one other question on the differentiation front. Part of that is, could you comment on the design wins and activity in automotive, but then more broadly talk about your outlook to get involved with earlier engineering and design work on the automotive side similar to what you're doing with some of your defense customers?

Tom Edman

Analyst

Sure. Yes, so specific to automotive, this was what I would call, it's interesting. I think as the markets have shifted, our customers have been a bit hesitant to put out big bidding packages, probably because they're waiting for the situation to clarify in terms of their own product build plans. That's my hypothesis at any rate. So wins were down a little bit. We had a total program value. We won about 13 design program value total of about $60 million. As I mentioned, that is certainly down year-on-year. A year ago, we were about twice that, about $122 million. But what I put that to again is just in the state of the economy with product changes planned, our customers are -- they've been hesitating to put out those packages. I expect that pace of opportunity set to increase pretty dramatically here as we go through the balance of the year. From an engagement standpoint, absolutely right. One of the major shifts in automotive that has -- that we identified several years ago is the growing involvement of OEMs in the design and process. And not that the -- the Tier 1s are still the most significant customers for TTM, but we are finding more and more involvement from the OEM side. And so our engagements have deepened with the engineering side of the OEMs and particularly true when it comes to RF and the ADAS systems that really are becoming now sort of required in vehicles, and that involvement from an engineering standpoint starts early. I'd also highlight that our RF and Specialty Components Group, which we brought in with Anaren, has been critical to those engagements. The RF expertise that they bring to the game, the focus on module solutions with our customers has allowed us to deepen that engineering engagement again with both Tier 1s and OEMs. And finally, I'd just highlight, with the EV companies coming in, often in their case, they start directly working with TTM and with that engineering engagement and have -- and plan, in most cases, to vertically integrate or even if they do decide to use an assembly service, they first want to get the design right. And so a lot of our engagement now is with those EVs companies as well and we're growing with them. So hopefully, that gives you a feel for how the landscape has shifted here over the last few years.

Mike Crawford

Analyst

Excellent. Thank you very much.

Tom Edman

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Next we'll hear from Jim Ricchiuti of Needham & Company.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Hi, thanks. Good afternoon. I wanted to again go back to that quick-turn business which was significantly higher. I don't recall you guys haven't an instance where you called that out, that kind of strength, at least in recent quarters. And my question is, I'm wondering if you can give us any sense as to how much of a lift that might have given your gross margins in the quarter?

Todd Schull

Analyst

Well, it's a significant lift. I mean, that's essentially a price increase. And so we have an ongoing relatively consistent level of activity there and the incremental activity that came in, in the last couple of quarters has been pretty substantial. And what came in, in Q2 was more than we had expected. We had expected to see some reversion to the mean, if you will, on our history. And again, we're expecting that in Q3, but we were surprised to the upside in Q2, and that gave us a little bit of extra lift. But if you look and think about all the -- we listed it was a more complicated list of explanation for our improved gross margin this quarter than we normally have. But revenue-related items, both volume, mix and pricing and premium all factored in very significantly for the quarter and more than offset the increased material costs and labor costs that we had been witnessing over the last few quarters and that really drove the upside. And it was more so pricing and premium than it was volume.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Okay. And I'm wondering if there's any read through on the PCB book-to-bill being below 1? And Tom, you kind of very quickly alluded to some minor impacts where you're seeing some signs of change in demand. Obviously, we're all looking for any indications that business may start to weaken. So I was just wondering if you could elaborate on that?

Tom Edman

Analyst

Sure, sure. Yes, so if you look at the overall book-to-bill, biggest factor, Jim, which is related to bookings on the commercial side coming back to more normalized levels is the fact that we were able to reduce lead times in our plans. And as we reduce lead times -- they're still elevated by the way. But as they've now come down, when the lead times come down, that allows the customers to hold off on orders. And so really what Todd was talking about with quick-turn where if you've got your lead time stretching and the need to get inside those lead times demand more quick-turn premium work, in this case, as things started to normalize in the commercial business, we did start making lead time adjustments. Again, still elevated, but we started making lead time adjustments. That was the single biggest factor. Secondly, there are particular customers, and I would highlight in the computing area and networking area where for individual programs, they were seeing semiconductor -- with semiconductor issues, they were adjusting inventory. And so inventory adjustments is sort of a secondary factor. And then thirdly, really on the bookings side, we had a lower quarter for A&D bookings -- we're actually -- those bookings shifted into this upcoming quarter. So we should actually see a very strong bookings quarter in the third quarter. But those shifts also contributed on the bookings side. So those are the three big factors.

Jim Ricchiuti

Analyst

Got it. Congrats on the quarter and on closing Telephonics. Thanks.

Tom Edman

Analyst

Thank you, Jim.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Next we'll hear from William Stein of Truist Securities.

William Stein

Analyst

Great. Guys, congratulations on these very strong results, especially the margins. First, I'm hoping you can talk to us a little bit about how ramping of capacity and production in the India facility might influence your gross margins if that's going to have a meaningful impact?

Tom Edman

Analyst

I think, Todd, you can answer on that. Yeah, Malaysia facility.

Todd Schull

Analyst

Right, in Malaysia. Yes, it's going to be negligible. I mean, it won't really have any impact this year. Next year, as we begin to add some infrastructure costs and bring on -- start to bring on leadership and mid-year start to bring on employees, it will have a drag. We haven't updated a lot of those numbers from when we gave our initial announcement. And I'd have to get that to you when we'd probably get closer to it because we really haven't offered any insight to 2023 yet. But we would expect some negative impact as we ramp in '23. We won't hit what we would call kind of normal run rate margins until late '24 probably. We'll be ramping all the way during '24. And we expect to be at full steam by the end of '24, early '25. So the margins will trail a little bit because you've got to bring on people and train them before you can actually build product. And that will certainly be a headwind for that ramp up, but we're expecting to hit normalized margins kind of in that timeframe, late '24 or early '25.

William Stein

Analyst

The follow up…

Todd Schull

Analyst

Go ahead.

Tom Edman

Analyst

Yes, go ahead Will.

William Stein

Analyst

No, no. Please continue after.

Tom Edman

Analyst

Yes, so no, I just wanted to highlight. One of the basis -- really the basis for this facility was the fact that we had customers lined up and we have customers that have now committed to TTM in the form of long-term agreements. And that provides -- as you start thinking about margin, that provides us the assurance on the sales side and the revenue side and the product mix that we can then drive into the facility. So that's going to help to shorten that ramp time, Will, as we bring on the facility. It's great to have the baseload assurance.

William Stein

Analyst

Great. The follow-up is -- it relates to the CHIPS Act. I'm well aware you're not a semiconductor device company, but I wonder if that -- there's probably a secondary influence on your business. But I wonder if there's any potential for primary direct effect on your business?

Tom Edman

Analyst

Yes, thank you. I mean, we've certainly been a supporter of this. We through the IPC and the PCB Association of America have been supporting these efforts and also reminding Congress that as we put a chips don't float, that chips are part of a broader electronics ecosystem. That's been a very consistent message. We're thrilled to see that -- you're right, Will, it's not a direct impact in terms of the larger portion of the funding. It will help our customers and semiconductor customers are critical to us. We do test and burn in-board production. So going to be some interesting developments, I'm sure, from a demand standpoint there. But directly, we're also really thrilled to see the $2.5 billion that was earmarked for microelectronics. We have our own microelectronics business out of Syracuse, that's about a $50 million a year business. But then broader than that, microelectronics and advanced packaging tied to that broader ecosystem. So we'll certainly be working with customers as we look at infrastructure, potential infrastructure needs for both microelectronics and some of the more advanced printed circuit board technologies here as we work with our customers. So excited to see that. We're certainly going to remain involved with consortia as well as with the associations to make sure that the proper support is provided. But I think it's good to see. It's good to see the investment in the infrastructure here in North America.

William Stein

Analyst

Great. Thank you.

Tom Edman

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

And it appears there are no further questions at this time. I'll turn the call back over to Tom for any additional or closing comments.

Tom Edman

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Thanks, April. I'd like to just close by summarizing some of the points I made earlier. First, we delivered revenues and earnings above the high end of guidance. And the fact that we've seen many of the cost headwinds of the past year really turn into tailwinds in this past quarter. Second, our end market diversification really enabled solid year-on-year revenue growth of 10.3%. Third, we generated strong cash flow. And fourth, we took important steps in advancing our strategy of differentiation with the acquisition of Telephonics and the breaking ground of our new facility in Penang, Malaysia. In closing, I'd really just like to thank our employees, our customers and our investors for your continued support. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

That does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect.