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Tradeweb Markets Inc. (TW)

Q2 2022 Earnings Call· Wed, Aug 3, 2022

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Tradeweb Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded and will be available for playback. To begin, I will turn the call over to Head of Treasury, FP&A and Investor Relations, Ashley Serrao. Please go ahead.

Ashley Serrao

Management

Thank you, and good morning. Joining me today for the call are Chairman and CEO, Lee Olesky, who will review the highlights for the quarter and provide a business update. Our CEO Elect and President, Billy Hult, who will dive a little deeper into some growth initiatives; and our CFO, Sara Furber, who will review our financial results. We intend to use the website as a means of disclosing material, non-public information and complying with disclosure obligations under SEC Regulation FD. I'd like to remind you that certain statements in this presentation and during the Q&A may relate to future events and expectations, and as such, constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Statements related to, among other things, our guidance are forward-looking statements. Actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements. Information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from forward-looking statements is contained in our earnings release and periodic reports filed with the SEC. In addition, on today's call, we will reference certain non-GAAP measures. Information regarding these non-GAAP measures, including reconciliations to GAAP measures in our posted earnings release and presentation. To recap, this morning, we reported GAAP earnings with diluted share of $0.33. Excluding certain non-cash stock-based compensation expense, acquisition-related transaction costs, acquisition Refinitiv-related D&A and certain FX items and assuming an effective tax rate at 22%, we reported adjusted net income per diluted share of $0.47. Please see the earnings release and the Form 10-Q to be filed with the SEC for additional information regarding the presentation of our historical results. Now let me turn the call over to Lee.

Lee Olesky

Management

Thanks, Ashley. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining our second quarter earnings call. The frantic beginning to 2022 continued into the second quarter as growing recession fears increased investor uncertainty. And that's the backdrop of global rate hikes, surging inflation, supply chain issues and the continuation of a brutal war in Ukraine. These macro events led to 10-year government bond yields, hitting 3-year highs in June, coupled with wider corporate bond spreads and lower equity market valuations. We remain very engaged with our clients as they traded more than $1 trillion daily on average, setting another quarterly record. Our record volumes translated into continued and strong double-digit revenue growth as Tradeweb generated its highest second quarter revenues in our history. It certainly was an all one-way traffic, while certain products were hampered by more risk-off client mentality for the yield curve. The same conditions allowed other products to thrive. Our early mover advantage in building diversity across our global multi-asset class decline and multi-protocol business over the last 25 years really shines in moments like this. We achieved record second quarter revenues across U.S. Treasuries, global swaps, U.S. Credit, munis, CDS, global ETFs, equity derivatives and repo. In fact, we also achieved record second quarter revenues in European government bonds and European credit on a constant currency basis. It's also great to see the continued pickup in the retail business, which produced its highest quarterly revenue in our history. Turning to Slide 4. Record second quarter revenues of $297 million were up 13.9% year-on-year on a reported basis and 17.8% on a constant currency basis. The revenue growth and the resulting scale translated into improved profitability relative to full year '21 as our second quarter adjusted EBITDA margin increased to 52.4%. Turning to Slide 5. This quarter was…

William Hult

Management

Thanks, Lee. Since our inception Tradeweb has been focused on meeting our clients' needs while being at the forefront of technological developments across the trading ecosystem. Our competitive advantage is our people, network and technology, and we remain hyper-focused on continuing to grow that moat. On the people front, as we continue with the CEO transition, we are excited that Tom Pluta will be joining the firm in October as President-elect before officially becoming President at the start of next year. Tom is a seasoned global leader who most recently spent his last 27 years at JPMorgan and has had a long relationship with the firm as a client, trader investor and most recently as one of our Board of Directors. Tom likewise believes in our client-first approach, and we believe he will further enhance the team's ability to drive further innovation for our clients. On the network and technology front, we recently launched the Spotlight Dealer Diversity Program. This was a very important initiative that we crafted carefully in collaboration with our clients over the last year, placing a lot of importance on genuinely leveling the playing field. Now diverse dealers will be able to elevate their profile and leverage electronic trading in a meaningful way by having the option to either directly provide liquidity or intermediate trades on our AllTrade network. The initiative has already hit the ground running. Turning to Slide 7 for a closer look at credit. Last quarter, we believe we received validation that our strategy of catering to the entire credit market was the correct one. This quarter, the first word that comes to mind is resiliency. As Lee highlighted in his opening, our clients are operating in a very uncertain and complicated time. The diversity of our Credit business shined during the quarter.…

Sara Furber

Management

Thanks, Billy, and good morning. As I go through the numbers, all comparisons will be to the prior year period, unless otherwise noted. Let me begin with an overview of our volumes on Slide 9. We reported record quarterly average daily volume in excess of $1.1 trillion, up 20% year-over-year and up 16% when excluding short-tenor swaps. Among the 22 product categories that we include in our monthly activity report, 5 hit quarterly records, while another 4 achieved the second highest quarterly ADV. Perhaps even more notable, 10 of the 22 product areas produced year-over-year volume growth of more than 20%. Areas of strong growth include European government bonds, global swaps, U.S. Corporate Credit, global ETF and institutional repo. Slide 10 provides a summary of our quarterly earnings performance. The record second quarter volumes translated into gross revenues increasing by 13.9% on a reported and 17.8% on a constant currency basis. We derived approximately 36% of our revenues from international customers. and recall that approximately 30% of our revenue base is denominated in currencies other than dollars, predominantly in euros. Our variable revenues increased by 20.7% and our total trading revenue increased by 14.6%. Total fixed revenues related to our 4 major asset classes continued to grow, up 1.3% and 5.5% on a constant currency basis. Rate fixed revenue growth was primarily driven by the addition of the NFI acquisition, while money markets fixed revenue growth was driven by global repos. Other trading revenues were down 3%. As a reminder, this line does fluctuate as it is affected by periodic revenues tied to technology enhancements performed for our retail clients. Market data increased by 5.1% due to growth in Refinitiv and our proprietary data products. This quarter's adjusted EBITDA margin of 52.4% increased by 181 basis points relative to the…

Lee Olesky

Management

Thanks, Sara. Halfway through 2022 is off to a strong start, and I'm very encouraged by the diversity of growth across products and the reemergence of our retail channel, which further solidifies our growth foundation. While areas of the business continue to contend with more risk-off client behavior, we remain focused on investing in our lead position -- our leading position across products to drive further electronification and our earnings power higher. Taking a step back in the majority of our markets, our clients are still trading over the fall. And we believe we have a meaningful revenue growth opportunity as we continue to collaborate and innovate with our customers to improve their trading experience. We released July volumes this morning and the secular trends powering electronification were on display again having already facilitated more than $1 trillion in average daily volumes. July volumes increased over 10% year-on-year, led by growth across interest rate swaps, money markets and institutional ETFs. The diversity of our credit business was on display yet again, with strong growth in U.S. IG credit, munis and CDS. Before I conclude, I'd like to welcome Tom, who I think will be a terrific leader at Tradeweb. I would also like to welcome Jacques Aigrain and welcome back Rana Yared to our Board of Directors as we increase the independence of our Board. Jacques brings more than 30 years of financial service expertise and global leadership and human capital experience to our Board. Rana previously spent 5 years on the Board prior to our IPO and brings a strong leadership and financial experience to the Board. I'd like to conclude my remarks by thanking our clients for their business and partnership in the quarter, and I want to thank my colleagues for their efforts that contributed to the record quarterly revenues and volumes of Tradeweb. With that, I will turn it back to Ashley for your questions.

A - Ashley Serrao

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Q&A will end at 10:30 a.m. Eastern time. Operator we can now take our first question.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Alexander Blostein of Goldman Sachs.

Alexander Blostein

Analyst

A bit of an ecosystem question for you guys, I guess. But we've seen excess capital at a number of large money center, banks decline pretty meaningfully the cycle, and that's before I guess, considering any potential credit issues, which is sort of leading to various balance sheet and RWA mitigation across the space. So not asking you to obviously predict volumes, but curious how you think smaller bank balance sheets and maybe less liquidity in the system, sort of in general impact Tradeweb's various businesses, but in particular, rates, is that one tends to be, I guess, a little bit larger from, as I think about the bank's balance sheet consumption. Is there a risk? Is there are positives? Is there are negatives? How are you sort of thinking about that dynamic?

Lee Olesky

Management

Alex, it's Lee. Thanks for the question. I guess the first part of my response to that is, it's tough when you group all the banks together, right? Not all banks are the same. We have a large network of liquidity providers who are going to react to the environment differently. Some will dial up risk, others will pull back. I think what's most important here, either way, regardless of how individual banks react to the market is that as an electronic platform, we believe we're going to continue to play a critical role in helping clients find liquidity and dealers manage their balance sheets. And you can see this in recent months, we've consistently traded over $1 trillion daily as the macro environment has changed. From a bank perspective, the bottom line is our biggest products are relatively capital efficient, right? So our large cash products attract very low risk weightings and the vast majority of derivatives are essentially cleared. So for sure, on the margin, high-yield repos could be impacted, but they're not that far along in their electronification journey. So another -- I think another point here is market structure is continuing to evolve. So if you look at where banks and a broader set of non-banks, are now playing sort of a bigger role in our treasury market, right? So they're more than 50% of the accepted liquidity in '22, right? So this is an important point. Principal trading firms are also playing a larger role in markets like U.S. Credit. So when we take a step back, we think we're very well positioned. Market remains fluid. We're very engaged with our sales force and even in today's stressed environment, we have new clients shifting from voice to electronics. So we're very laser focused kind of on this future opportunity that we believe we continue to have.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Richard Repetto of Piper Sandler.

Richard Repetto

Analyst

Hello? I'm having a little [indiscernible] difficulty here. [Technical Difficulty].

Operator

Operator

I apologize, looks like he disconnected. [Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Craig Siegenthaler of Bank of America.

Craig Siegenthaler

Analyst

So my question is on MBS volumes, which tie to decline. Is this more of a function of lower industry volumes due to higher rates or share declines for electronic trade and give less issuance. And then with the bond markets now starting to price in rate cuts by '23, we want to get your perspective also the potential for MBS volume reacceleration next year?

William Hult

Management

Craig, it's Billy. Good question. Thanks for asking it. We have -- I think as you know really well, we have like a very strong leading franchise position in mortgages, both on the institutional side and the wholesale side. The mortgage market is going through a rough spell. It's a combination of higher yields, lower issuance. And I think, as you know very well, a sort of technical situation with the Fed sort of being in the middle of the mortgage trade. And so volumes are challenging right now. We feel really good about our position from a market share perspective in that space. And we do feel like this is a very resilient marketplace. It's gone through ups and downs before. And ultimately, we feel like the Fed exiting the mortgage trade will be an impetus for volumes increasing there. So the forwards from our perspective around mortgage volume will look good. And we love the way that we are kind of set up in that space with a very strong market share kind of across the board. And thanks for the question.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Cyprys of Morgan Stanley.

Michael Cyprys

Analyst

I wanted to ask about the Munis business. You guys are putting up some very strong volumes there. I think it was up 10% in the quarter, it looks like the strength is continuing here in July, up over 90% year-on-year. So I was just hoping you could elaborate a bit on the strength that you guys are seeing from your Munis franchise. How much of that is coming from retail versus institutional? I think can you talk about some of the initiatives and priorities to make your Munis business a more meaningful revenue contributor at Tradeweb. And is there any sort of role for M&A to play to help accelerate your presence within the Muni space?

William Hult

Management

It's not the -- it's Billy. It's not like the exact opposite of the mortgage story, but it's like -- it's basically an inverse, right? Lots of good things are happening in the Muni space right now, right? And it's -- from our perspective, one of the things that's really great is this has been these last bunch of months with higher rates has been a real validation from our perspective, just around our retail strategy. And in an obvious way, the Muni volume is sort of the engine around our retail strategy. At the same time, to your point, we're also investing in hyper-focused on building out and continuing to build out a Muni institutional platform, where we feel like that market will obviously benefit from a tremendous amount of transparency and efficiency and a modernization of that business. So it's really like a two-pronged approach for us in Munis, both on the retail side and the institutional side. And we feel like this is an opportunity kind of sitting right in front of us where we're putting the exact amount of emphasis and muscle into those businesses, as you'd expect. It's kind of traditionally a super old school market and a lot of ways that sets up perfectly for us because to Lee's point, in his prepared remarks, we're constantly focused on sort of transitioning firm business into the electronic world and in a certain way, the Muni market represents that at the highest level for us. So it's a big priority for us as a company.

Michael Cyprys

Analyst

Great. And just on the M&A point, just any thoughts there if that could be helpful.

William Hult

Management

Nothing I think that would absolutely kind of come to mind for us right now around that. Obviously, we're always looking at M&A opportunities in ways that would help our business, grow our network or add a piece of technology that we feel would be incredibly useful for us. But I don't think that we would have like a big comment around a sort of M&A lead in that space, in part because we feel really good about how we're approaching this business organically.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Kyle Voigt of KBW.

Kyle Voigt

Analyst

Question for Billy. You mentioned in your prepared remarks the external hire of Tom Pluta to fill that president position. Just wondering if you could elaborate a bit more on why you landed on Tom to fill that role? And more specifically, someone with an interest rate trading background. I'm just wondering if we should infer from that move that you're kind of doubling down in rates versus maybe choosing a candidate with a credit background, for example?

William Hult

Management

Yes. So it's a great question. So not surprisingly, Lee and I spent like a ton of time on this because I think bringing someone at a very senior position into the company externally, means a lot. So we were very focused on getting this hire right. And to make an obvious comment, we feel great about it. Tom has very strong sort of tangible qualities, both his background 25 -- I don't want to date too much for 25-plus years at JPMorgan, kind of living and breathing in the space that Tradeweb operates gives him a tremendous amount of experience into our world. We've known Tom for a long time, both as a client, a Board member and have had a tremendous amount of kind of confidence in his market background. I would also say in a very kind of genuine way, there's always also the concept of kind of intangibles and intangibles at a company like Tradeweb matter a lot. And we don't sort of -- we describe that in a very specific way. Intangibles do matter. And so we got very, very comfortable with how Tom operates, he's exceptionally transparent, he's a great communicator. And so we felt in a very strong way that he would be a very additive person to our management team. And the really good news, I would say, is from our perspective, the team and the company has reacted really well to his hire. And so we're excited for him to start in October and we feel really good about the skills and the background that he brings into the equation. The rates history and the rates background that he has is only a good thing. We have a very strong kind of rates team here, and they're excited to have him on board. But by the way, so is our credit team. So we feel like his contribution is really going to be across the board in every way that you would expect them to have. And thanks for the questions.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Alex Kramm of UBS.

Alexander Kramm

Analyst

So hoping you could give us an update on high-yields credit trading. I think the year-over-year trends in electronic trading are clearly solid, but it seems like the market share gains have stalled out a little bit. So just wondering specific efforts in that area, macro environment? And then maybe just remind us around pricing relative to other, I guess, IG and competitors, how we should be thinking about that business?

William Hult

Management

It's a good question. We wouldn't say sort of dismiss month-to-month market share numbers or even quarter-to-quarter market shares as sort of static noise because we care about everything. And you guys know that we are a very, very competitive company that wants to win every day, every week, every month, every quarter. So we care about all of it. That being said, if you take a step back, right? We have, from sort of March of 2020 sort of increased our market share, just specifically speaking, in high yield from basically less than 1% to up to 8% in January. Of course, there's always going to be some sort of back and forth around the numbers. And if I was going to describe it to you specifically, what I would say is just, again, very bluntly through February, March and April of this past year as the markets got more volatile, our take on at all is that more business went into the all-to-all channel then from portfolio trading, which has been our historical strength and lead. One of the things, I think, that we do a very good job at and pay a lot of close attention to is what I would describe to you as sort of signposts or sort of indications of, from our perspective, franchise strength. So around high yield, what we would say to you, I think, in a very specific way is that in the second quarter, our responder rate on Tradeweb was up 25% year-over-year. That's a very strong and important number. Our average daily volume was up 16% in the second quarter year-over-year. And the percent of high-yield RFQ trades that utilize AiEX increased over 30% or up 4x actually since 2020. These become kind of very important indicators of where we are going. And in a really important way, they sort of mimic stats that we saw along the way as our IG market share continues to do exceptionally well, now up over 13-odd percent, and it continues to sort of increase and play a leading role for us. So those are the kind of things that we focus on and we think about when we look at where we are around all of this.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Daniel Fannon of Jefferies.

Daniel Fannon

Analyst

Sara, I was hoping you could provide some additional color on just the expense outlook halfway through the year with FX as kind of a benefit with inflation maybe as a headwind? Maybe talk about how you're tracking as you think about the full year based on kind of current spending levels.

Sara Furber

Management

Sure. Thanks for the question. Based on where we are for the first half of the year, we're trending towards the middle of our range for expenses, which is $620 million to $655 million. And to your point on FX, that's partially being helped by the depreciation of the pound, which we've seen in the first six months of the year. As we think about the rest of the year and as you're trying to get a hit on it, a significant portion of our expense base is variable, about 30% varies with revenue. And a large part of that is really compensation, obviously, which is impacted by how well we do in terms of revenue and margins. Beyond that, I would just say in terms of the year-over-year comparisons or as you look at sequential quarters, obviously, we expect tech and communication to grow on an absolute basis if volumes continue to grow. G&A clearly is an area where we're seeing a pickup with [indiscernible], which is not a bad thing when you think about coming out of the pandemic. And so from an absolute level, I'd expect those to increase. And then I just keep an eye on currency, which obviously hasn't been as big a factor in years past. But when you look at the first half, we talked about an impact and we lay a lot of that out in the queue. Even in July, we're seeing the pound was down almost another 5%. So that's another element just as you think about the overall expense range. But overall, I think we feel comfortable that we're in the middle of that. And I think that's in a variety of markets and FX conditions.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Ken Worthington of JPMorgan.

Kenneth Worthington

Analyst

Congrats on hiring Tom. It's a loss for us, and I think a big win for you. And then maybe for Bill, Billy or Lee you mentioned that you're working more closely with LSE and you called out FXall as an initiative, LSE would seem to have some unique businesses and capabilities, which might be relevant for Tradeweb. So as you look out at the opportunity set for Tradeweb innovation and new products in the future, how big a deal, if it is a bigger deal, are opportunities for further LSE collaboration? And are there any asset classes that represent bigger opportunities than others?

Lee Olesky

Management

Ken, it's Lee. Thank you. I'll kick off with this one. Yes. So look, we're always on the hunt for opportunities to partner with important market players like LSEG. So in particular, I think we announced the EM FX effort that we've got going on with them and their FXall capabilities. We think that's really interesting. It's always -- we're always going to focus on the customer and what is it that we are able to deliver to the market that is solving some problems, creating some efficiency, reducing some costs. And we have a great dialogue with LSEG and the sort of first evidence is this EM FX initiative that we've started. It's a place where we've shown really nice traction with respect to the swap space in EM, and we're looking at across the board all of the opportunity in EM. So this is an important collaboration. And as I said, we're in constant dialogue with market participants in order to find places where we can connect and deliver a solution to our customers that's beneficial. So I'm sure there's going to be more opportunities with LSEG and other significant market participants to combine and do things that are beneficial for the market.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Gautam Sawant of Credit Suisse.

Gautam Sawant

Analyst

Just given the heightened level of volatility in the market, how is Tradeweb positioned to grow the firm's client network longer term? And what is attracting new domestic and international clients to the firm's platform? And then longer term, could you expand on what some of the most important factors are for growing in Europe and Asia?

Lee Olesky

Management

I'm going to -- I'll take them. This is Lee. Let me start off on the international perspective. And this has proven to be a terrific business for us over time. I forget exactly what the revenue participation is 36%, 37%. A real focus for us for really for decades. And that team has done an amazing job to grow that business. And it's all about doing what we do at a high level in terms of solving, as I was saying before, solving client issues, building efficiencies for clients our competitive advantage in Europe and Asia, what we would call international is very similar to what we have in our business collectively. It's the people, it's the network, it's the technology. The great thing about the technology is it scales very globally. And the people -- on the people side, we've built a franchise both in Europe and Asia over the last several decades that supports this. So it's been a number of years that we've been doing this. We're always looking to add new regions, new asset classes, further protocols into this global network. I would point out that our leading position in global swaps, which, by the way, we started in Europe in a while ago now, continues to grow tremendously. We have lots of greenfield opportunity, both in Europe and in Asia with respect to that. And we continue to leverage our technology and our footprint into things like emerging markets with respect to swaps. So we think we have a strong competitive advantage and a real opportunity to accelerate that. We've even -- when it comes to EM, we've added 14 EM currencies to date. The most recent is Israeli shekel, which I think we started in July. The Asia region continues to be playing a bigger component in our international growth story, and we think that will accelerate over time. So we've got a lot of room to grow our network, cross-sell our products and extend our global kind of reach through the presence that we have in Europe and in Asia.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Brian Bedell of Deutsche Bank.

Brian Bedell

Analyst

Maybe just on portfolio trading. Billy, if you want to share or if you can share sort of any kind of updated view on how dominant that could become in the market, given you're seeing different -- you're citing different studies about the resiliency of portfolio trading in a more volatile environment. And whether -- to what extent you're actually seeing that play out as we move into the summer here in terms of market share gains from portfolio trading and rest of your [indiscernible]?

William Hult

Management

Very good question. Thanks for asking. If you weren't sure if portfolio trading would work as well in super volatile market environments, you found out that it would. And that's a really important test that portfolio trading went through, if you think about the kind of months of February, March and April. It's becoming stickier and more resilient with clients, and they're using them -- they're using portfolio trading for both high-yield and investment-grade trading. So those are kind of big statements that I'm making. If you believe in the growth of the ETF business, you believe in the growth of portfolio trading. And I would say clients are getting more and more sophisticated and are becoming very good at quantifying the ability to save time and money as they continue to use portfolio trading, and it's become more and more resilient. So as we've continued to make these really strong market share progress in IG, the power behind that progress in a lot of ways continues to be the leadership role that we play in portfolio trading. And as high yield becomes a kind of challenging market environment, we feel very strongly that portfolio trading plays a very strong role in getting clients best act, and they are getting more and more sophisticated in understanding what that value is. And by the way, we always want to make sure that we stress this, it's a global initiative. So in a lot of ways, our European volume obviously leads the way in terms of how we think about portfolio trading, specifically as a mechanic to transfer real risk. So it was important to us as a company within credit that we would find something that was a real differentiator for us in terms of client experience. And I think that we played that leadership role around portfolio trading, and it continues to be one of our strongest -- our strongest protocols within the credit suite. And thanks for the question.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. I'm showing no further questions at this time. Let's turn the call back over to management for any closing remarks.

Lee Olesky

Management

So okay. Thank you. Thanks very much for joining us this morning. As you heard from us and saw on the numbers, it was a great first half of the year. That strength has absolutely continued into July. And of course, if you have any follow-up questions, feel free to reach out to Ashley and Sameer and the team. Have a great day. Thanks for joining us. Take care.

Operator

Operator

Thank you, gentlemen. This does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day.