John H. Batten
Analyst · Longbow Research
Yes. So it's 2 different scenarios really with so Veth -- when we acquired Veth, they had sales agents around the world, didn't really have distributors, what we would think of as distributors in our industry, something like what Twin Disc would have or Caterpillar or Cummins, where you have dedicated workshops, train mechanics, spare parts on the shelf locally. And that's what we brought to Veth. And we had a delay in the growth because of COVID and then we had supply chain issues. But now that those are mostly behind us, we're really starting to see the Veth product take off in other geographies. And I think right now, North America might be, if it's not #1, it's #2 in their backlog. And it's across -- it's river cruise ships, it's workboats, and so -- it took some time, but now it's starting to happen, and we're starting to see that momentum build in Asia. We've had projects in Australia. It's the same thing we're going to do with Katsa, very similar, had 1 external agent, and so we're starting to bring that global support to their product line, and we'll be integrated 1 of their hydraulic PTOs into our product line. And so they had no real distribution around the world. Kobelt does have a lot of dealers around the world, and this is going to be a different integration and synergy because some of their dealers, we feel could be very influential in helping us sell some of our products. And vice versa, we think in some regions where we have company-owned subsidiaries in Asia and Australia. We think we're going to be very strong in growing their products in different regions. But we're really excited about both acquisitions, bring new products, new customers, but it's something that we can plug into our system, particularly with Kobelt. Their industrial brake line, which they've had some good success with in parts of North America and different applications, we think that we can really take that business globally.