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TXNM Energy, Inc. (TXNM)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Fri, Nov 1, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the TXNM Energy Third Quarter 2024 Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Lisa Goodman of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Lisa Goodman

Analyst

Thank you, Wyatt, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning for the TXNM Energy third quarter 2024 earnings call. Please note that the presentation for this conference call and other supporting documents are available on our website at txnmenergy.com. Joining me today are TXNM Energy Chairman and CEO, Pat Vincent-Collawn; President and Chief Operating Officer, Don Tarry; and Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, Lisa Eden. Before I turn the call over to Pat, I need to remind you that some of the information provided this morning should be considered forward-looking statements pursuant to the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. We caution you that all of the forward-looking statements are based upon current expectations and estimates and that TXNM Energy assumes no obligation to update this information. For a detailed discussion of factors affecting TXNM Energy results, please refer to our current and future annual reports on Form 10-K, quarterly reports on Form 10-Q as well as reports on Form 8-K filed with the SEC. With that, I will turn the call over to Pat.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst

Thank you, Lisa. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for the Halloween edition of our quarterly earnings call, also known as the third quarter call. We had a great Halloween during the Monster Mash and we snagged all of the Reese Peanut Butter cups from our neighbors last night. So we are all ready to treat you to our results and updates. I’ll start on Slide 4. Ongoing earnings for the third quarter are $1.43 per share, reflecting some warmer weather and timing impacts. Based on our year-to-date results, we are narrowing our guidance range for the year to $2.70 to $2.75 per share. We continue to target 6% to 7% earnings growth through 2028. Lisa will provide more detail on the numbers and our expectations for the remainder of the year. Don will provide an update on each of our utilities and highlight the customer-focused investments in both New Mexico and Texas that allow us to build a cleaner, more resilient grid. At PNM, our recently approved grid modernization plan, will give customers the day-to-day need to have more control over their monthly energy bill. In addition, we have been awarded funding from the DOE to complement these plans with a virtual power plant project. Don will talk more about this also. This DOE award was in addition to funding from the DOE on a joint research and development project that includes New Mexico State and the National Renewable Energy Lab. It will use AI-powered technology to improve reliability and resiliency of the grid with variable renewable resources. At TNMP, our file system resiliency plan is designed to improve the response of our systems to extreme weather events, a direct benefit to the customers we serve. Don, I’ll turn things over to you for utility updates.

Don Tarry

Analyst

Thank you, Pat, and good morning, everyone. I’ll start on Slide 6 with TNMP. TNMP continues to set new system peak records, including another one yesterday, its sixth new peak of the year. It is 16% higher than last year’s peak and reflects a 13% annual growth rate since 2020. The amount of interconnection requests received this year is nearly double the levels we were seeing in 2020, signaling continued growth in our service territory and into the future. We are expecting a 2% to 3% growth in our traditional volumetric and demand-based rate classes in 2024 and we are seeing this across each of our areas we serve. Residential customer counts have steadily increased for many years and the interconnection request for housing units in our service territory are trending stronger than the statewide numbers as we continue to see folks moving into our communities that are outside of the larger cities. We also see continued request for larger accounts, which require longer lead times to serve, providing confidence in our growth assumptions and production from oil and gas load in West Texas remained strong. Data centers have also had an impact in our service territory, now totaling over 400 megawatts. These customers typically start off as distribution customers, paying demand base rates and eventually move to transmission customer class, paying rates through our TCOS filing that recover transmission investments made into our system. ERCOT’s growth expectations for the market have been a topic of conversation all year for both traditional customers as well as new customers like data centers. Legislation passed in Texas last year now requires planning studies to consider load beyond the contracts already in process and studies recently completed for West Texas more than doubled the forecast load for the region compared to the studies…

Lisa Eden

Analyst

Thank you, Don, and good morning, everyone. I’ll start on Slide 11 with a recap of third quarter results. Earnings per share were $1.43 compared to $1.54 in the prior year. Earnings benefited from recovery of capital investments through TCOS and DCRF mechanisms at TNMP. The implementation of new retail rates of PNM in January and income from our PNM decommissioning trust. Low growth at PNM and TNMP was more than offset by the impact of milder temperatures compared to last year, reducing earnings on a net basis. Lower transmission margins at PNM also reduced earnings along with depreciation, property tax and interest expenses associated with new investments. Lastly, dilution impact from shares issued in December of last year lowered our earnings on a per share basis. Now turning to Slide 12. I’ll cover our guidance assumptions for the rest of the year. We’ve gotten through the majority of our annual earnings, and we are comfortable narrowing our guidance to a range of $2.70 and $2.75. We have been above expectations in some drivers, including PNM low growth and weather, while we have seen decreases from other drivers mainly PNM transmission margins and corporate interest expense. We have raised $100 million of equity through the third quarter by way of our ATM. These are forward sales that we plan to settle in December of this year. Earlier in the year, we issued junior subordinated convertible bond to replace $550 million of corporate term loans, the debt for debt exchange balances our income statement with our balance sheet by achieving a lower interest rate while also receiving equity credit from the rating agencies. On Slide 13, we have updated our capital plan to incorporate the additional $150 million of investments included in TNMP’s system resiliency plan for a total of $600…

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst

Thank you, Lisa. We are pleased with the positive regulatory outcomes we’ve seen this year and the opportunities we have on the horizon at both PNM and TNMP. Before I open it up for questions, I want to thank the TNMP lineman who packed up and went to provide mutual assistance after Hurricane Helene. I know their work was appreciated by those impacted by the hurricane, and we appreciated it here as well. Wyatt, let’s open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

I’ll now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Nicholas Campanella with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Nicholas Campanella

Analyst

Hey, good morning. CapEx trick or treat?

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst

Well, it’s a treat. It’s a treat.

Nicholas Campanella

Analyst

Definitely a treat. I should clarify that, so…

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst

Okay.

Nicholas Campanella

Analyst

Hey, so, it’s good to see the $600 million to $900 million of ERCOT projects and just thinking about where that the size of that capital relative to even your current rate base there, where it’s projected to be in 2027 and just seems very material and I acknowledge in the prepared remarks you kind of talked about having to prioritize capital within the plan as well as the balance sheet. So just how should we kind of think about this $600 million to $900 million? Would that replace current CapEx in your projections as it stands today, or is it truly incremental? Just maybe you can kind of give us a little bit there.

Don Tarry

Analyst

Yes, absolutely. And good morning, Nick. And look forward to seeing it in about 9 or 10 days at EEI. We would look to see that $600 million to $900 million being incremental starting in about the 2026, 2027 time frame and going through 2030 based on the ERCOT schedule.

Nicholas Campanella

Analyst

Incremental. Okay. Thank you. And then on the New Mexico rate case, I understand that you could potentially see a path where parties file testimony or potentially you get a settlement filed here. Just putting some parameters around that, are you willing to file a partial settlement? Is this to really take all the issues off the table? Just – what could we kind of potentially see here as we get into November? Thanks.

Don Tarry

Analyst

No, absolutely, Nick. In this rate case, we’ve kind of taken a different approach, and we began discussions with all intervening parties before we actually file the case. And it’s a traditional kind of T&D case, a lot of those legacy issues are behind us now. And we’ve continued those discussions even through this week about a potential settlement. And we’re still hopeful that there will be a settlement. So I think all avenues are open at this point, whether it’s been a partial settlement, a settlement and as we continue to work with the intervening parties.

Nicholas Campanella

Analyst

All right. I’ll get back in the queue. See you in the week here. Thanks.

Don Tarry

Analyst

Thanks.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst

Thanks, Nick.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Julien Dumoulin-Smith with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

Analyst

Hey, good morning, team. Happy Halloween, indeed. Thanks for all the treat. Maybe too excited, I don’t know. Anyway, just following-up on what [indiscernible] was saying there real quickly, if I can. On the $600 million to $900 million there, real quickly here. You talked about potentially getting involved in some additional projects. Is that what’s contemplated when you talk about the upper end of that range there? Or is there an upside to the upside on that, if you will?

Don Tarry

Analyst

Outside of the upside, Julien. I would look at it between the $600 million and $900 million. The upside would be if they chose a different path. And I think we’ve listed out with the 3.5 kV path, it looked like based on just how ERCOT’s allocated the projects another $900 million. If they do the 565 kV path, then right now, we have zero allocated to us out of that. So I kind of think about it like that.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

Analyst

But just to clarify that, you have zero allocated to that. Your contention is that you merit some amount of that, if I understand your comments correctly.

Don Tarry

Analyst

On the 765 kV?

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

Analyst

Yes.

Don Tarry

Analyst

I would assume that the commission would follow kind of the same path, and we would have to look at it to see right now, what the commission has done is, as you can – as you probably know, is there’s transmission providers that can dispute and then they kind of go into a process there. And so we would have to look at it based on that import path if that import path was selected.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

Analyst

Got it. All right. So it does sound like there’s really some moving pieces there. All right. Excellent. Thank you. And then related here, just going back to the financing plan real quickly. I mean, you’ve made allusion to this, maybe not necessarily conventional equity in all context here. Obviously, you’re increasing your assumptions here today about equity. How do you think about refinancing and potentially upsizing your use of other forms of equity content here within the plan. Again, should we expect on incremental updates when you reflect that $900 million or $600 million wherever that comes out to be a traditional equity piece? Or would you think about layering in additional equity content, if you will?

Lisa Eden

Analyst

Julien, as those opportunities become more defined and certain, we will integrate them into our plans and projections. And our base assumption is 40% to 50% equity. But as you know, we will always look to the market to see what – how we can best optimize that financing to get the best shareholder value.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

Analyst

Got it. All right. Excellent. And then just on the regulatory front, again, just reasking a little bit of what Nick said as well, just on the rate case process here in potential settlement. Just any nuance or any pieces of this that you could really look to get resolved here, maybe asking that a little bit more directly.

Don Tarry

Analyst

Yes. No, Julien, I think we’re in discussions and I don’t want to jump in front of that. But we’ve had really good discussions with intervenors all along the way. And again, it’s a traditional kind of T&D type rate case at this point.

Julien Dumoulin-Smith

Analyst

All right. Fair enough. I know there’s a couple of different pieces there. So well, look. Nicely done, guys. Congrats, Pat, on the additional appointment here, and we’ll see you guys soon. right, all the best.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst

Thanks. Look forward to seeing you at EEI. Thanks, Julien.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Michael Lonegan with Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Michael Lonegan

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking my question.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Good morning.

Michael Lonegan

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Good morning. On the West Texas transmission and Permian reliability study, you highlighted the additional $900 million under the 345-kV scenario. If I’m not mistaken, the traditional path is the 345-kV. So what would you say the chances are of that traditional pathway that could include that higher investment? And then also, do you know that schedule and time line to address the remaining unresolved ownership?

Don Tarry

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

On the pathway, you are correct that 345-kV was one of the past. I’m not going to get in front of the commission on what path they would select import path. So I think we will wait to see on that topic.

Michael Lonegan

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Okay. Great. Thank you. And then secondly, a lot of growth in Texas, obviously, you haven’t filed a rate case there since, I think, 2018. What is your expectation for when you will file there again? Obviously, you have some constructive cost recovery there with the TCOS and DCRF mechanism?

Don Tarry

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Yes. You’re 100% right. It’s been six years since we filed a rate case there. We’ve gotten two extensions – we are always looking at the rate recovery and whether we file one or not. There have been some changes in the business between our transmission and our distribution there. So we’re exploring that as a potential in 2025.

Michael Lonegan

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Great. Thanks for taking my questions.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst · Evercore ISI. Please go ahead.

Thank you. See you at EEI.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Ryan Levine with Citi. Please go ahead.

Ryan Levine

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Good morning and happy Halloween.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Same to you, Ryan.

Ryan Levine

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Maybe in terms of PNM low growth, the customer count is relatively flat for this year versus previous years, but yet your retail load is expected to accelerate for the fourth quarter with some industrial growth. Can you elaborate around what types of customers are and what you’re seeing in the market?

Don Tarry

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Yes. No, absolutely. And Ryan, good morning. We’ve had some industrial load that we’ve talked about ramping up for probably the last 12 or 18 months, and COVID kind of slowed that down. We’re actually seeing that ramp, and it’s been ramping the last half of the year. So that’s what’s kind of closing the gamut there that we would expect to be within the 2% to 3% guidance range.

Ryan Levine

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

In terms of that trend, is that expected to continue to accelerate into next year? And is there certain industries that you’re more levered to?

Lisa Eden

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Yes, Brian, we do – we’ve had a lot of emphasis in the space on economic development. And so our industrial piece of the business is growing here in New Mexico. And so we continue to see growth going into 2025 as well. .

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

And Ryan, it’s in a variety of industries, a lot of our clean energy industries, but it’s spread out. It’s not concentrated in any one customer industry.

Ryan Levine

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then maybe one follow-up in terms of the financing plan, given there’s a bias upside to some of the spending. Is it fair to assume that you would lean more heavily on the equity plan in earlier time periods than later time periods given that bias in your CapEx outlook? And is there – I think year-to-date, you’ve already achieved your ATM program for this year. Is there still opportunity to execute on further ATM issuance in the remaining two months of the year?

Lisa Eden

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

So Ryan, we laid out on the earnings power, a lot of detail regarding our financing plan as we see these incremental opportunities be more defined, and we will, of course, include them in our plans and projections. But our base assumption is the 40% to 50% of equity issuance for any upside on the CapEx side.

Ryan Levine

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Okay. And then last question for me. Just in terms of the DPP – DOE funding, is there a way to quantify the financial benefit to the company of receiving the Department of Energy financing plan?

Don Tarry

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

I think I would quantify it as customer benefit because it’s really allowing us to integrate our systems to better serve our customers. So I wouldn’t think of it as financial bottom line impact, but again, the focus is on the customer.

Ryan Levine

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Thanks for taking my questions.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst · Citi. Please go ahead.

Thanks, Ryan. See you soon.

Operator

Operator

And the next question comes from Andrew Weisel with Scotia Howard Weil. [Operator Instructions] Andrew, please go ahead.

Andrew Weisel

Analyst

Thank you. Good morning, everybody.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst

Good morning.

Andrew Weisel

Analyst

I’ve got two fine-tuning follow-up questions and then one high-level one for you. So first, following up on the last one about load growth. I noticed that your forecast for 2024 came down a little bit for both states. Anything to point to there? And what’s the outlook for 2025 and beyond?

Lisa Eden

Analyst

So on 2024, Don mentioned the industrial customers have been ramping up. It has been a little slower than we expected. And so as a result, we adjusted the ranges there. But we really do feel very positive about load growth in both states, Texas is, as you can see, the demand base load growth is very strong this year, and we continue to see that in the coming years. And like we said before, lots of economic development efforts here in New Mexico. And so we are getting additional load, particularly on the industrial side.

Andrew Weisel

Analyst

Okay. Great. And I see the data center, I think that’s a new disclosure 2.5% year-to-date. Any thoughts on how big that outlook might be for 2024 or beyond?

Don Tarry

Analyst

That’s where we’re at today, and we haven’t forecasted it. That’s a mix of those that are on our transmission system as well as on our distribution system.

Andrew Weisel

Analyst

Okay. Great. We’ll stay tuned. Next question, just to clarify on the equity. I know you talked very clearly about the high-level plan with specifically the $70 million related to the Texas System Resiliency Plan. Would that be financed through an ATM? And would it be spread over those three years or more front noted in 2025?

Lisa Eden

Analyst

Yes. So we have spread them over the three years, 2025 through 2027 and there really is any additional equity will match as we spend the capital. And for us, we always look to optimize our financing plans. So it really depends on the market conditions and we will just see what kind of vehicles we use then.

Andrew Weisel

Analyst

Okay. Fair enough. Then lastly, my high-level question is when we think about upside to CapEx here, you talked obviously about the Texas system resiliencies now in the plan, the West Texas transmission you’re starting to get more visibility on then you’ve talked about things like New Mexico resource plan, et cetera. My question is more broadly, do you think that there is a limit on how much upside there could be to CapEx? Is there a cap beyond regulatory approvals, whether that’s related to the balance sheet, your labor force, customer affordability or just general corporate bandwidth?

Don Tarry

Analyst

One of the screens – thanks, Andrew – one of the screens we always go through is customer impacts in our service territory. So – and that’s one of the screens that we look at as we kind of allocate capital both in New Mexico and Texas. So I would say that’s probably the ultimate screen. And that depends on a lot of factors, as you can imagine, what load growth is doing, what the policies of the states are, and they all kind of go into the mix as we kind of look at it so.

Andrew Weisel

Analyst

All right. Very good. Thanks so much everybody.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst

Thank you.

Lisa Eden

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

That concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Pat Vincent-Collawn, Chair and CEO, for any closing remarks.

Pat Vincent-Collawn

Analyst

Thank you, Wyatt, and thank you all for joining us this morning. I look forward to seeing all of you at the EEI Financial Conference, where we will provide more color on our capital investment opportunities. Stay safe.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today’s presentation. You may now disconnect.