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Universal Electronics Inc. (UEIC)

Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 2, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Universal Electronics Third Quarter 2023 Financial Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Kirsten Chapman with LHA Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Kirsten Chapman

Analyst

Thank you Sean, and thank you all for joining us for the Universal Electronics third quarter 2023 financial results conference call. By now, you've received a copy of the press release. If you've not, please contact LHA at 415-433-3777 or visit the Investor Relations section of the website. This call is being broadcast live over the internet. A webcast replay of this call, including any additional updated material, non-public information that might be discussed during this call will be available on the company's website at uei.com for 1 year. During this call, management may make forward-looking statements regarding future events and future financial performance, so the company cautions you that these statements are just projections and actual results or events may differ materially from those projections. These statements include the company's ability to timely develop and deliver new technologies and technology upgrades and related products introduced this year, including meeting the demand for connectivity and interoperability across devices, platforms in the hybrid systems in the home; achieving new product development and design near and longer term successes as anticipated by management in the connected home space, in particularly the climate control market and its line of ultralow power and energy harvesting control products designed to address the growing demand for more sustainable solutions in electronic devices; the continued successful collaboration with existing and new customers in developing and launching next generation products, software solutions and technologies into existing and new markets, which result in increased sales and share growth in the new markets for the company; management's ability to continue to manage its business inventories and cash flows to achieve its net sales margins and earnings through financial discipline, operating efficiency, liquidity requirements and manufacturing footprint utilization, R&D spend, product line and business management and other investment spending expectations, including…

Paul D. Arling

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

Thank you for joining us today. UEI's technology and products continue to help everyday people easily discover and interact with the devices and services in their home. We are the clear leader in this area, as is evidenced by growing list of customers in home automation, climate control, security and even home entertainment. During the third quarter, our efforts to control costs and optimize our manufacturing footprint, which Bryan will elaborate on in a minute, began to yield benefits. For the third quarter of 2023, we increased gross margins to a high for this year. And combined with lower expenses, we delivered bottom line results in line with expectations. Over the last 3 plus decades, the home entertainment market has changed greatly. Even more so over the last couple of years. Our prime home entertainment market customers, the video service providers, have experienced dramatic net subscriber losses, which were exacerbated by the impact we endured since the pandemic began. Even with this market decline, it is important to note that our technology leadership continued to grow. We maintain market share and we continue to win new projects in this channel. However, our absolute dollar amount of sales, particularly in subscription broadcasting has decreased substantially. Nevertheless, we remain committed to this market and continue to support our customers with next generation solutions, including many hybrid systems that combine linear and streamed content and our new line of low power sustainable energy harvesting products. In 2023, we selectively invested in new home entertainment product developments on a handful of differentiating and innovative applications with our customers. A few examples of these include, new control products for emerging streaming services such as Sky Glass, as well as Liberty Global's [ Babylon ] green ultra-low power remote. These products began shipping recently and will…

Bryan M. Hackworth

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

Thank you, Paul. First, I'll review the results for the third quarter of 2023 compared to the third quarter of 2022. Net sales were $107.1 million slightly below our expected range as a few customers ordered less than their submitted forecast. This compares to $148.5 million for the third quarter of 2022. Core cutting in the video service channel continues to be a headwind, and an uncertain economic environment with inflationary pressures is likely causing households to spend less on discretionary goods. Gross profit for the third quarter of 2023 was $30.4 million or 28.4% of sales compared to 30.8% in the third quarter of 2022. We're executing on our factory point optimization plan and these efforts are starting to pay dividends as this transition, coupled with a stronger U.S. dollar, contributed to sequential improvement in our gross margin rate of 300 basis points. I'd like to take a moment to provide an update on our footprint optimization plan. During the prior few calls, we explained how over the past several years, the enactment of certain governmental policies and changes in the global environment necessitated the expansion of our Mexico facility and influenced our decision to build operations in Vietnam. These expansions, coupled with lower demand in our video service channel and projected growth in the connected home, which requires fewer square feet of manufacturing space per sales dollar, have resulted in having excess capacity and the need to streamline our factory footprint. As stated on our last call, we commenced operations in our newly built Vietnam facility in June and mentioned the closure of our southwestern China factory was contingent on our Vietnam facility reaching certain production targets. I'm pleased to announce manufacturing operations of Vietnam have exceeded our expectations, enabling us to cease operations in our southwestern China…

Paul D. Arling

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

Thanks, Bryan. Our expansion into the growing connected home markets continues to be successful. Our innovative products and technologies ensure we are capturing new customer wins and broadening relationships, which is helping create new revenue streams. We continue to be by far the leading company in home entertainment control. We are building a growing position with enormous long-term potential in the connected home space. While we cannot share significant details of our product plans with specific customers, we have design wins with 5 of the top 8 HVAC OEM brands in North America that represent nearly 70% of the total HVAC market. These new projects, along with other connected home project wins represent over $80 million in new annualized revenue and we are actively qualifying and quoting opportunities that can lead to significantly more revenue potential. I want to be clear that we are not, at this time, providing detailed numbers for next year. However, this level of project activity clearly demonstrates that we have a very healthy pipeline of new business and an exciting and significant growth opportunity ahead of us. We are very confident in our ability to succeed and return UEI to growth and sales and earnings. Based on this conviction, as Bryan stated earlier, our Board has authorized the stock repurchase program for up to 1 million shares. The fact remains, our technology leads in home control and our opportunities are abundant. We are all confident in our growth strategy and our long-term success. As always, stay tuned. Operator, we can now open the call for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Steve Frankel with Rosenblatt Securities.

Steven Frankel

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

Paul, I appreciate the transparency around the new opportunities and things like HVAC. And last quarter, you also talked about that and you talked about some of those products coming to market in the back half, yet revenue was short of the mark in Q3, and it's down sequentially again in Q4. So could you help us understand whether that's incremental deterioration in your core subscription broadcast customers, or are some of these newer projects taking longer to get to market?

Paul D. Arling

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

Yes, well, I think we said we had more than 30 projects. I think we only had a couple of them launch and we'll probably have more -- I mean, as time goes on, as each month progresses, more and more of them will layer on. We have projects going out now into '25. And as I alluded to, we've got over a 100 projects at the qualification and quote stage and the revenue from them is much greater than that, which we've won already. Now we won't win all those projects. When they're in the qualification and quote stage, we don't win them all. We have a pretty good hit rate, though. So we think there's a lot of business out there. As we described, in what was probably a deeper dive than some have heard from us on HVAC, I wanted people to understand the dynamics of that market. It's changing much like other markets have, home entertainment included. It's becoming much more energy conscious. It's becoming much smarter. And the products that our customers there are building have much more capability than the current ones on your wall. Most people on this call probably have thermostat. They may have connected thermostat that has an app on their phone, but it's just turning your system on and off to get to 72 degrees or whatever you've set it at. These systems are capable of doing much more. And we're working with companies in this market. As I said, 5 of the top 8 are already actively working on projects with us -- project wins with us for products to be introduced. And yes, the subscription broadcasting market, as we said in a prepared statement, has been tough for the last 4 years. It's gotten a little tougher recently…

Steven Frankel

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

A couple questions for Bryan. What were the customer concentration numbers in the quarter?

Bryan M. Hackworth

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

We had one 10% customer in Daikin at 14.2%.

Steven Frankel

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

And do your pro forma gross margins reflect, in essence, a full quarter impact of not having that western China factory? Or is there incremental improvement that's implied in your Q4 guidance?

Bryan M. Hackworth

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

There is incremental improvement implied? The answer to the first part is yes, I do pro forma some of the overhead inefficiencies, but the way we've been trending, I believe the actual reduction will exceed what I've been pro forming. The last thing I want to do is pro form more than what we ultimately are able to reduce. So I was a little bit conservative with that, and that's proven to be true. And it's one of the reasons we have some upside in the gross margin rate. And then the FX is helping us. The stronger U.S. dollar versus the Chinese renminbi is helping us as well.

Operator

Operator

And our next question comes from Greg Burns with Sidoti.

Gregory Burns

Analyst · Sidoti

Just to follow up on the gross margin discussion. With the rationalization year in completion, do you expect to get the gross margins above 30% again? Is that the target? Do you have a target in mind, I guess, for where you think gross margins can get? I know it'll be volume and mix dependent, but what do you think the business can sustainably operate at?

Bryan M. Hackworth

Analyst · Sidoti

Yes, what we've said is we believe we can get back to historical levels, and that's been the 28% to 30% plus range as you noted there are a lot of variables that go in the gross margin rate. So any given quarter there are many factors. But the way we're trending, the way the factory optimization plan is coming along and the project wins that Paul illustrated, yes, I think we're going to be at 90% plus utilization. And that will enable us to be running efficiently. And we'll have capacity. We could expand it if needed. But with that, I expect to be back in the 20% to 30% range. And we're already there. This quarter, we're over 28%. So it's coming to fruition. Now your product mix comes into play as well. As you point out the royalties play a role. Right now TV sales are down, they won't be forever. We benefit from TV sales as we sell our technology when we license it, which is a 100% gross margin because it's a royalty. So things of that nature also play a factor. But I do like the gross margin rate is right now. I like the way that our operations team is operating and the Vietnam is a great testament to their performance. We're able to shut that down 1 quarter ahead of schedule. And we've done it a few times now, so we're getting pretty good at it, but they're not easy transitions so overall I think things are going well from an operational perspective.

Gregory Burns

Analyst · Sidoti

And Paul, you mentioned trying to, or thinking you could maybe double your revenue from climate control over the next couple years. What's the trailing 12-month revenue from climate control right now? Like what's the base off that doubling?

Paul D. Arling

Analyst · Sidoti

It's under a $100 million. We don't give the specific number, but it's under a $100 million in climate control specifically.

Gregory Burns

Analyst · Sidoti

And that the $80 million of that project pipeline of annualized revenue, and I know you mentioned some of this extending out to '24. But I guess how much of that do you expect to get in 2024? I know the timing of these project is hard.

Paul D. Arling

Analyst · Sidoti

I can't give you that specific number yet. There's a lot of variables. As I said last quarter, the number of project wins is over 30. Each project has a date that date is reliant on both our development of the control item, which we're usually pretty good at, but also the customer's goal of often a companion product that goes with it, which we don't have control over. And sometimes they're done on time, sometimes even early, sometimes they're a month or 2 late. So we try to shy away from giving too specific a guidance across in the mid-30s projects, because there's a lot of variables in there. What I would say, though, is that, this is the nature of our business. It wasn't subscription broadcasting, it wasn't TVs, it wasn't home entertainment generally. And it is in HVAC security home automation. So we're selling B2B. We sell to a much wider breadth of customers, right, because we go to the industry leaders. As I said, 5 of the top 8. Our goal will be to have 8 of 8 and we're working on a few extras or I shouldn't say extras. A couple of the 3 that we don't have, we are in qualification or quote on. So we're looking to close everyone, just like we did in the other market. Once we do that, every project adds another layer of revenue. Sometimes those layers are a $0.5 million to $1 million, $1.5 million a year. But each one of them, when it comes on, can often be a 5 -- in HVAC, it could be a 5 to 8-year project where it gives regular revenue from that project. So that's the goal. Build those layers. We've got 30 plus projects. The estimate on the revenue from the connected home projects that we spoke about last time, and this time have given a little bit more breadth of detail. On last time it was number of projects, this time it's the annualized revenue of -- that was disclosed as $80 million. So those are won projects, and when they are all ready to ship, it'll add $80 million. Some of those projects won't launch until late '24, but again, we're just going to keep adding them layer by layer. And as I said, I think earlier, we have I think another a 100 projects that we're working on, not fervently yet. When we start, it's a little bit of work to define the product and then we take it through a qualification and quote stage. Define the product, quote the product and then once you've won it, that's when the real engineering development starts.

Operator

Operator

I'm seeing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Paul for closing remarks.

Paul D. Arling

Analyst · Rosenblatt Securities

Okay. Thank you everybody for joining us today and for your continued support of UEI. We plan to present at Imperial Capital's 20 Annual Security Investor Conference in December and Needham's 26 Annual Growth Conference in January. I think they're in New York. It's in middle of winter. But nonetheless. And we will be at the International CES in January, 2024 in Las Vegas. In addition to launching our complete line of comfort climate control products, we will demonstrate use cases around our long-term commitment to the HVAC market and a view of what we hope to achieve in this new product category. We call it climate control reimagined. I hope some of you are able to make it there. Please let us know. We can schedule meetings or visits and demos. I look forward to seeing you there. If you can be at any of those conference or of course, CES. Thanks again and have a great day.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect.