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UGI Corporation (UGI)

Q3 2024 Earnings Call· Thu, Aug 8, 2024

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Operator

Operator

Good day and thank you for standing by. Welcome to the UGI Corporation Q3 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Tameka Morris, Senior Director of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Tameka Morris

Analyst

Good morning everyone. Thank you for joining our fiscal 2024 third quarter earnings call. With me today are Mario Longhi, Interim President and CEO; Sean O'Brien, CFO; and Bob Beard, COO. On today's call we will provide a business update and discuss our financial results before concluding with a question-and-answer session. Before we begin let me remind you that our comments today include certain forward-looking statements, which management believes to be reasonable as of today's date only. Actual results may differ significantly because of risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict. Please read our earnings release and our most recent annual report for an extensive list of factors that could affect results. We assume no duty to update or revise forward-looking statements to reflect events or circumstances that are different from expectations. We will also describe our business using certain non-GAAP financial measures. Reconciliations of these measures to the comparable GAAP measures are available within our presentation. And with, I'll turn the call over to Mario.

Mario Longhi

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Thank you, Tameka and good morning everyone. UGI delivered solid results for the fiscal third quarter, reporting adjusted earnings per share of $0.06 in comparison to $0.00 in the prior year. Our team has continued to make steady progress in executing on our key strategic priorities, including our focus on driving sustainable cost savings across the business, which is reflected in the results for the quarter. In alignment with our objective to strengthen the balance sheet, particularly at AmeriGas and the corporate level, we executed several critical financing transactions during the quarter. These transactions, some of which Sean will further discuss, have enhanced our overall liquidity, begun to address upcoming maturities, and supported AmeriGas in its journey to stabilize operations. At the end of the quarter, UGI had available liquidity of $1.9 billion, inclusive of cash and cash equivalents and available borrowing capacity on our revolving credit facilities. Next, we continue to explore opportunities to optimize our portfolio across the entire business. This quarter, UGI Energy Services entered into a stock purchase agreement, the divest of Hunlock Creek, a 169 megawatt natural gas-fired facility located in Pennsylvania, and we completed the sale of the LPG business in Switzerland. For the fiscal year, we anticipate raising approximately $80 million of cash proceeds from divestitures or using reducing absolute debt across the entity. Lastly, I want to highlight that in July, we released our sixth annual ESG report entitled the journey, managing climate risks and opportunities, which provides an update on the progress made on our key ESG commitments. Of note, we were pleased to report that we achieved a 50% reduction in Scope 1 emissions well-positioning the company to meet its commitment of delivering a 55% reduction by the end of fiscal 2025. Similarly, we achieved our goal of a 25%…

Sean O'Brien

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open

Thanks Mario and good morning. First, I will provide my comments on the performance for the quarter before turning to the outlook for the rest of this fiscal year. As Mario mentioned, for the fiscal 2024 third quarter, UGI delivered adjusted diluted EPS of $0.06 in comparison to $0.00 in the prior year period. The Utility segment was up $0.01, largely due to higher gas and electric base rates and results for the Midstream & Marketing segment were flat to prior year. UGI International reported an increase of $0.13, largely stemming from higher LPG unit margins and lower operating and administrative expenses. AmeriGas was flat as lower EBIT was offset by favorable income taxes. Similar to the prior quarter, the impact at Corp & Other was related to taxes, offsetting the effects of the tax benefit at AmeriGas. Before I walk through the key drivers for each reportable segment, I also wanted to note, excluded from adjusted net income was a $45 million non-cash impairment related to the Hunlock Creek asset. As Mario mentioned, we entered into an agreement to sell that asset generating cash that is being used to pay down debt and improve our credit metrics. In addition, we recorded a $25 million non-cash impairment associated with the write-off of our investment related to a renewable dimethyl ether pilot plant. This action aligns with our previously communicated intent to curtail investment in renewables, limiting spend to the $500 million of committed capital. Now, moving to the review of each segment performance versus the prior year period. At the Utility segment, EBIT was $39 million for the third quarter, up $5 million over the prior year period. An $8 million increase in total margin was partially offset by increased depreciation and amortization expense associated with continued investment in our…

Mario Longhi

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Thanks Sean. Before we open the line for Q&A, I want to acknowledge that Bob Beard has elected to retire from his role as COO at the end of this calendar year. Over Bob's 30-plus years since a highly regarded executive in the Utilities and Natural Gas sector, including his 16-year career with UGI, he has made many meaningful contributions to the company. Among them, one that needs to be highlighted is the development of strong and talented leaders in the natural gas line of business. As Bob will remain in his COO role through the end of the year, we will have a seamless transition to the existing leadership team. I am also grateful that Bob will continue to act as an adviser to the Board and the company for a period of one year post-retirement to assure strong support to our natural gas business. In closing, I am confident that with diligent focus and execution of the key strategic priorities, UGI will continue to create sustainable value for its shareholders. Our priorities and the long-term commitment that we have made are clear. We continue to explore opportunities to drive further portfolio optimization and growth, prioritize stabilizing and optimizing AmeriGas propane, seeks to create operational efficiencies and establish an optimal cost structure, and drive balance sheet improvement. I'll now turn the call back to our operator to open the line for questions.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Gabriel Moreen of Mizuho. Your line is now open.

Gabriel Moreen

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Hey good morning everyone. Maybe I can start off with the last comment on the dock damage in France. I'm just curious, one, the EPS impact, if you're confident about recovering the damage costs from insurance, why that's going to hit EPS? Or is it going to be just a timing thing? And then also the larger implications around supply and margins and your degree of confidence that you can maintain margins if I guess you have to scramble a little bit for supply?

Mario Longhi

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Good morning and thanks for the question. The coverage from insurance is going to address the amount of capital required to rebuild it. As we speak, the alternative logistics plans are in place. Our customers are not suffering from that. And we just shared with you some of the expected potential impact to the operational side of the business as we get into next year. That was just to give you a frame of reference. So, we're going to be validating some of those numbers as we get further into the analysis.

Gabriel Moreen

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Thanks Mario. And then maybe if I can shift to an update at AmeriGas and how you feel broader picture things are progressing on your initiatives there, particularly with the facilities having been swapped out and I guess, being unburdened by the EBITDA covenant there. Does that change your approach in terms of how you think about investing in that business going forward? And I guess the metrics you're looking at as you head into the winter and heating season here?

Mario Longhi

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

No, we just -- as a matter of fact, it's a big positive when it comes to ability to focus. The strategy that we laid out to address stability inside of AmeriGas that remains shut firm the clarity around some of the root causes of the issues we have, be it with new algorithms to define the best way for optimizing and getting more efficient out of logistics as well as a bigger proximity to the customers, where we're moving the organization towards a pod concept, which will create much greater interaction between local supporters of the customer base rather than having a distant support to that very same customer base. So, there is a lot of work that's going into that direction. The plans and strategic approach is not changing. It's just going to allow a better focus as we take this burden from over us.

Gabriel Moreen

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Great. And then last one for me, if I could. You got the power plant sale under agreements. You divested some smaller property in UGI International. Can you just talk about where things stand maybe prospectively for any additional asset sales as you look across the portfolio?

Mario Longhi

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Yes. The portfolio analysis is a live element of what we are doing. There is quite a bit of understanding of where value lies and where opportunities lie for improvement on this portfolio for us to be able to focus on the more value-adding elements of the organization. So, more to come on that, but there is a lot of good work being put in place that continues, okay?

Gabriel Moreen

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Great. Thanks very much.

Mario Longhi

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Pleasure.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next caller is from Paul A. Zimbardo of Jefferies. Your line is now open.

Paul Zimbardo

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open

Hi, good morning team. Thank you.

Mario Longhi

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open

Good morning.

Paul Zimbardo

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open

I had a two-part question on CapEx. Just noticing declines pretty much across the board, but particularly the utilities looks like it's down about 25%, $100 million year-to-date. If you could discuss like what the driver is there? And also looking at the LPG businesses, international and aircraft, like notably down as well. If we should think about those as kind of like the new run rates for the LPG businesses and just some color on what's happening at the utilities? Thanks.

Sean O'Brien

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open

Yes, Paul, this is Sean. I can handle that. I think the -- on the LPG side of the equation, we've been very clear that we're going to limit some of the capital. Obviously, we've got maintenance capital, both internationally and domestically. We're not pulling back on that. But in terms of the growth side of the equation, our strategy is to focus on running those businesses stabilizing AmeriGas running international. So, that step-down change that you're seeing this year in the LPG businesses will continue. We have that forecasted out through the next few years, and that is our intent. On the nat gas side, two drivers there. We're finishing up some of the renewable projects in our midstream business. I think we're about $380 million into a $500 million spend. As Mario mentioned, we've curtailed that back at one point, the company was committing a little bit over $1 billion, but we're finishing these projects that are in service that will probably be about $400 million this year, maybe $100 million next year. So, you'll see that sort of pull back in the Midstream side. And then on the Utility, there's a little bit of ebb and flow, but we're still heavily investing in those rate base programs to replace cast iron and bare steel. This year, we're down just a little bit. Part of that is we are focusing on the balance sheet. Obviously, Mario talked about some divestitures. We're trying to get the balance sheet in order, but you'll still continue to see a very good chunk of capital going into the rate base. We're going to honor our commitments there over the next few years. There will be a little bit of seasonality. I think you could see that uptick maybe a little bit in 2026 and 2027, but we still have a fair amount of capital to give you guidance later on in the Q4 call around 25%. But our goal is to keep that going. The other key metric, I think, to keep in mind is about 85% of the capital that we're still deploying will be into the nat gas businesses. We've been clear on that. That's where we want to continue to grow the company.

Paul Zimbardo

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open

Okay, great. Thank you for the color across the board. And then the last one I have was just on the leverage metrics. Nice to see the improvement through June 30. Just as we fast forward to a year from now, do you think that those stay the same levels, increase or decrease for UGI Corp and AmeriGas?

Sean O'Brien

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open

The goal is to decrease both of them. Q3, look, we're very pleased to see 39 and Corporate 49 at AmeriGas. Q3 typically is our lowest quarter. But that's why -- but they're definitely below where we were Q3 of last year. So I think that's real progress. I mentioned the absolute debt of the company, very excited is below $7 billion. That's a big move down $300 million. The absolute debt at AmeriGas is below $2 billion. It wasn't that long ago that AmeriGas was holding about $2.7 billion, $2.8 billion. So, some big milestones I think you're thinking about it right, Paul. I think the balance sheet stays in focus through fiscal 2025. I think we continue, hopefully, to make some progress on that side of the equation. So, the short answer is we want to continue to see improvement. Remember, our range is at corporate 3.5 times to 4 times. So, we're still at the top end of that range but within the range. And the same thing with AmeriGas, 4.5 times to 5 times, and we're at the top end of that range as well. So, good progress, but still a little more to do.

Paul Zimbardo

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open

Okay, great. Thank you all and congratulations to Bob on the retirement. Thanks everyone.

Bob Beard

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is now open

Thanks Paul. Appreciate that. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] I am showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn it back to Interim President and CEO, Mario Longhi.

Mario Longhi

Analyst · Mizuho. Your line is now open

Well, I appreciate you being with us today for the session. And I just want to wish you a great rest of summer and look forward to seeing you in November for the year-end call. All the best to you. Thanks again.

Operator

Operator

Thank you for your participation in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Good bye.