Yeah. Let me divide that segment into two segments. There is one part that as you might imagine, ClearPath and core, which is in that top number, as you know it’s in secular decline. That's a business that's strategic to us, but it's not part of that bottom part of the table. And so, even though the industry is in secular decline, that's the part where we've tried to slowdown. At first, we were successful in core maintenance, and you have recently seen the success we were starting to have in the technology business there, in ClearPath and so on. So that part we want to slowdown. Other parts, where we believe the margins are unattractive in part of that infrastructure services business; the margins are unattractive project-based work. I believe now there are still some pass-throughs of things like Cisco hardware and third-party hardware in that. We're trying to continue to further consciously exit that. And so, think of the two sections as; one we want to slowdown, even though we know it's in secular decline; and the other one, we have mixed feelings on how fast we take it out, because, obviously, people have looked at our revenue picture and would love to see us at least in a modest increase. So, we are torn a bit there, but we do want to get all of that third party equipment of small project, lower margin workout overtime and eventually that piece, Julie, we actually would like to get to zero. In there, there was, if you remember when we talked on previous calls about, what I called non-strategic SI solutions were in there, non-core development environment work, meaning J2EE, not dotcom but older development environment. So, on a theoretical basis we would love to get that to zero, but not the other part of it which is ClearPath and core.