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United Natural Foods, Inc. (UNFI)

Q2 2025 Earnings Call· Tue, Mar 11, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Thank you for standing by. My name is Karen, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the UNFI Quarter Two Fiscal 2025 Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After today's presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to Steve Bloomquist, VP of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Steve Bloomquist

Analyst

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us on UNFI's second quarter fiscal 2025 earnings conference call. By now, you should have received a copy of the earnings release issued this morning. The press release and earnings presentation, which management will speak to, are available under the Investors section of the company's website on the Events tab. We've also included a supplemental disclosure file in Microsoft Excel with key financial information. Joining me for today's call are Sandy Douglas, our Chief Executive Officer, and Matteo Tarditi, our President and Chief Financial Officer. Sandy and Matteo will provide a business update, after which we'll take your questions. Before we begin, I'd like to remind everyone that today's comments made by management may contain forward-looking statements. These forward-looking statements include plans, expectations, estimates and projections that might involve significant risks and uncertainties. These risks are discussed in the company's earnings release and SEC filings. Actual results may differ materially from the results discussed in these forward-looking statements. I'd like to point out during today's call, management will refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures. Definitions and reconciliations to the most comparable GAAP financial measures are included in our press release and the end of our presentation. And finally, as we stated on our last call, we've changed the sales reporting on the face of our press release, which now breaks down our revenues in a manner consistent with the previously-announced realignment of our wholesale business. To provide historical context, last week, we posted prior quarter sales under this updated approach to our website. We believe these changes will give you additional insight and transparency into our multi-year strategy and sales performance. I'd now ask you to turn to Slide 6 of our presentation as I turn the call over to Sandy.

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Thanks, Steve, and thank you, everyone, for joining us this morning. As we shared in our release, we delivered another quarter of improving financial results and operational execution, while achieving key milestones of our multi-year plan. Our results also reflect solid sales growth and adjusted EBITDA growth of over 13% and significant improvement in year-over-year free cash flow. As a result, we've again raised our full-year outlook for all financial objectives other than capital spending and remain firmly on track to deliver our longer-term fiscal 2027 targets and to continue creating sustainable shareholder value. Today, I'm going to focus on three key areas. First, I'll describe how we are working to increase the value we offer to both customers and suppliers. Then I'll discuss some accomplishments within our multi-year plan and highlights from our results in the quarter. We've outlined our strategy of adding value for our customers and suppliers, while also improving UNFI's free cash flow and strengthening our balance sheet and we believe our recent results validate our strategy and demonstrate that we're delivering improving operational execution as we work to embed lean management practices throughout the organization. We've strived to learn and adapt as we've implemented our plans, soliciting feedback from both customers and suppliers on what we're doing well and importantly, areas in which we can improve. We routinely evaluate our potential to improve and create more value for all of our key stakeholders. And by so doing, we believe our value creation opportunity continues to grow. We expect our focus on continuous improvement to increasingly benefit the customers and suppliers we partner with, driving greater sales and profit opportunity for our mutual businesses. In turn, we anticipate we will continue to create sustainable shareholder value. We have identified new areas to add value and increase…

Matteo Tarditi

Analyst

Thank you, Sandy, and good morning, everyone, and thanks again for joining our second quarter earnings call. As Sandy stated, our operating momentum, execution and performance have continued to accelerate during the first half of fiscal 2025. We remain confident in our multi-year strategy and the corresponding longer-term financial objectives we outlined during our fiscal 2024 year-end call. Today, I will provide additional insight into our second quarter results, including our free cash flow generation and capital structure and comment on our updated outlook for fiscal 2025. With that, let's review our Q2 results. Turning to Slide 8. You will see the walk on this slide reflects the updated sales disaggregation Steve described earlier. Our second quarter sales grew nearly 5% to $8.2 billion. Our gains in the quarter were led by our natural products business, where sales increased by over 8% compared to last year's second quarter, primarily reflecting higher sales and category penetration with existing customers. Our conventional products business was up just over 2%, reflecting new business wins and new customers over the past four quarters. Across our wholesale business, volumes were up about 3%, which represented another quarter of sequential acceleration and a continuation of the favorable trends we cited as we exited fiscal 2024. This broadly outperformed the key industry Nielsen benchmarks and partially reflects the benefit of new customer additions we will begin to cycle later this year. Inflation was largely unchanged sequentially at approximately 1.5%, which was close to a percent lower than last year's second quarter. Total sales in our retail business were down about 3% compared to last year, primarily the result of five store closures over the past 12 months. On an ID basis or same-store sales basis, sales were down about 40 basis points, a sequential improvement of about…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from John Heinbockel from Guggenheim. Your line is open.

John Heinbockel

Analyst

Hey, Sandy, on the wholesale realignment and the new sales breakdown, one, can you touch on functionally the changes that have occurred, how that will change your go-to-market day-to-day, right, interacting with your customers and the biggest benefit you see? And then just want to understand natural and conventional, is that products -- natural products that are sold to any customer or all products that are sold to largely natural customers, the same thing for conventional?

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Good morning, John. The second question you asked is, yes, it's all customers. What we learned from feedback that we've gotten from customers and suppliers is that product expertise was a principal focus for them. And so what we've done is taking that feedback, we've aligned the wholesale business into two product center divisions. Each focused largely on functional dedication in sales, procurement and merchandising. We kept the scale enterprise level capabilities behind them in supply chain and IT and across the company. But what customers wanted from us was really focused product expertise around the key levers that drive those categories and we organized that way. But it's transversal across customers. So to the point of your second cut question, natural products will be represented in an expert fashion by natural people, but the customer manager, if the customer is principally conventional will come from conventional.

John Heinbockel

Analyst

Okay. Well then my first part of that, right, so how does this change I guess it doesn't change that much in terms of how sales are interacting with the accounts?

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Yeah, it's not a big change, but I guess the best way to think about it is the customer who is principally focused on natural organic products, they're very interested in innovation, they're interested in things that are changing, whereas the conventional products, a lot of those are big brands and they're looking for the best promotional activity and sharpest price points. And it's a different merchandising motion. It's not completely different, but it's enough different that we felt that segmented them was the best way to serve our customers.

John Heinbockel

Analyst

All right. And then just my last quick thing. The -- you referenced four incremental areas of potential to the strategy. Of those four, which one or two are the furthest along and you think are the most impactful if one or two stand out?

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Sure. I mean, from my perspective, the services for customers who have typically not been well served by pro services and digital services are the best. While it's in development, I think it has tremendous potential. One of the things that I like to say internally is that UNFI needs to be in the retail media networks of the future in year one, not year four. But we're catching up quickly and we have a whole pipeline of products and services there that we think will serve customers very well in the future and give them the edge that they need to compete more favorably.

John Heinbockel

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Bill Kirk from ROTH Capital. Your line is open.

Bill Kirk

Analyst

Hey, good morning, everybody. I had a couple of things related to the closure of the Fort Wayne DC. I guess, first, were there duplicate costs while it was still open that are now gone? Is there a step down in depreciation expense with the closure and how large would that be? And then finally, what did you learn in the process of closing that and rerouting that will help inform future facility closures and help inform the customer and facility kind of optimizations?

Matteo Tarditi

Analyst

Hey, good morning, Bill. It's Matteo here. So on the question on OpEx and duplicative cost, so we are ramping down very quickly the Fort Wayne operations and with that the operating expenses. So we had a little bit of kind of double dipping or double costing in the second quarter. But from now on, we should expect to basically just transfer all the activities to the receiving DCs, scaling down significantly the OpEx and the fixed cost at Fort Wayne DC and see the full benefits for the rest of the year, which is part of the reason why we built a high confidence case to increase EBITDA 10 basis points in second half versus first half. There should be some step down in depreciation and amortization as well. And then relative to the learnings, the customer experience has been the first priority over and above the cost-out or the free cash flow benefit. So, we spoke before about the safety, quality, delivery cost always in that order set of priorities. And so understanding, first of all, how we were increasing operations and ramping assortments and the receiving DCs while ensuring that the customer experience was as smooth as possible while closing a DC and ramping others was top priority. And so this is what we continue to embed as we continue our journey in terms of DC network optimization. Business in Bismarck, we are smaller scale in a way, Fort Wayne was more meaningful. And as we always said, as we look at underperforming DCs, the journey continues.

Bill Kirk

Analyst

Thank you, Matteo.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Scott Mushkin from R5 Capital. Your line is open.

Scott Mushkin

Analyst

Hey, guys, thanks for taking my questions. I just want to go back to what John was talking about as far as the realignment of the business. When the merger was done, the idea was putting the two entities together a long time ago now that there was leverage in putting those SUPERVALU together with UNFI, the idea of one truck, one bill, maybe even one DC. It sounds like you guys are saying, hey, maybe that's not ideal. And I guess the question is, do the two assets belong together over time? Or is that something you guys will consider as the years go on?

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Yeah, thanks for the question. From my perspective, the answer is kind of both. Scale is good where scale is good and specialization is good where specialization is good. What we were hearing from customers is if my main product set is conventional, I need really good pricing. I need the promotional intensity and focus of vendors. If my principal product set is natural organic and specialty, it's all about product and innovation and speed. And generally those motions are two different types of processes and therefore, we found specializing that part of the organization to be in the interest of our customers. From a supply chain and IT and back-office standpoint, there's a lot of synergy available that we've been capturing. And through those centers of excellence are places where efficiency can be captured through enterprise-wide capabilities. So, Scott, it's really both.

Scott Mushkin

Analyst

Okay. So my second question is actually a really short one. The conventional was up, I think, 2.1% on revenues. I know there's some wins in there. Can you talk a little bit about kind of core sales growth, core volumes with continuing customers kind of ex the wins.

Matteo Tarditi

Analyst

Sure. Good morning, Scott. So, the overall volumes for UNFI were up 3% and within that natural grew at a more accelerated fashion than conventional. With that said, what we saw is that conventional was roughly flat from a volume standpoint and slightly better than the US food kind of traditional grocery indicator. Conventional have improved in part from adding from business from existing customers. And we also believe that our volume changes have outpaced many of the conventional peers. So we are pleased with the sequential progress that we have seen there. We remain cautious with the kind of overall dynamic going on, but pleased with what we've seen in the second quarter. Knowing that again, broadly, we picked up favorable volume in early July of 2024. It grew to 1.8% in the first quarter, grew to 3% in the second quarter.

Scott Mushkin

Analyst

Okay, guys. Thanks very much.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Mark Carden from UBS. Your line is open.

Mark Carden

Analyst

Good morning. Thanks so much for taking the questions. So you guys put together strong results, brought up your guidance. At the same time, we've seen some pretty big shifts in consumer sentiment over the last few weeks. Are you seeing any changes in end customer behavior in the early weeks of 3Q across really any of your channels or has your momentum really been pretty much sustained?

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

We're really not seeing anything change. In fact, over the last year or so, we've continued to see generally very strong performance by our customer base. A whole lot of the causals in our growth are the success of a excellent group of customers performing very well in the marketplace. Obviously, the really well differentiated sharp strategy retailers are doing very well. But in general, we have not seen consumer behavior change significantly over the past few weeks. That there may have been a little bit of upstocking in some categories, but beyond that, nothing to -- that we could call a trend.

Mark Carden

Analyst

Great. That's helpful. And then related to tariffs, how much exposure do you guys have to imports overall? Would you expect to fully pass through the impact seat on a dollar percentage basis? And then if we do see sustained tariffs, how do you think about the balance between incremental trade in from food away from home? And any potential demand disruption as consumers potentially control their own shrink, so to speak?

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Yeah, that's a good question. Those are the variables that we're thinking about as well. I think obviously, the most important message here is this all continues to evolve. And so we'll be paying attention to it. Our teams are obviously very agile in thinking about diversification and resiliency of supply chains and options and levers that they can pull. Ultimately, we learned a lot from the supply chain disruptions in COVID, and so we're running some of the same plays to make sure we maximize optionality for our customers. I think you can over time, the premise of your question is true that it could start to change the value equation between food at home versus food away from home, but it's really too early to tell. And what we're trying to do is make sure we're doing the best job we possibly can for our customers in any environment.

Mark Carden

Analyst

Makes sense. Thanks so much. Good luck.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Andrew Wolf from CL King. Your line is open.

Andrew Wolf

Analyst

Hi, good morning. I wanted to start, I guess, with Matteo on the lean principles in the nine new DCs being, I guess at least you gave a productivity trend in the low-single-digits. And I think last quarter in the two pilots in Texas and Colorado was mid-single-digits. So is there anything other than just timing? It's sort of newer in these new -- in the nine or is there anything that we should know about or are your expectations kind of similar that they'll trend up?

Matteo Tarditi

Analyst

Good morning, Andrew. Expectations remain at mid-single-digit plus in terms of productivity gains. And when you think about what we've been able to deliver in throughput, for instance, in the last several quarters is close to a 10% improvement or lower or higher cases per hour. So we see the benefits. I would say that on the fact that for the new DCs that move to LDM, lean daily management recently, it's just timing. So we see the ones where we had link daily management implementation six months ago, reducing or improving safety, improving delivery quality and starting generating more and more productivity. And we expect to see the same from the seven that move to link daily management and adopted link daily management in the last three months.

Andrew Wolf

Analyst

Got it. Thank you. And just back to the top line that I think some folks have been asking about, you had nice acceleration in volume sequentially. And you've talked about a lot of things. So some is supplier partnerships and how you change some of the -- well, a big change in how you're addressing fees and so on and sharing data back to the suppliers to help them with their merchandising. And then I think obviously, this realignment, I think Sandy already referenced procurement, merchandising sales, so on. So how do -- I could hear this in thinking, in conventional, maybe that's a more sophisticated suppliers using the data with programs and partnering that way. And then in the natural, it's more internal like, hey, we really got to put some resources against this. There's a lot of growth here we're leaving on the table. Is that kind of conceptually and qualitatively, is that accurate or is it a little more nuanced than I'm kind of portraying it might take away?

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Andy, I think you've got it. I think that the main thrust of the conventional product that is making sure that we're priced right and making sure that the promotions are focused. But like any generalization, there's significant nuances. Across our conventional customer base, we've got ethnically positioned customers that are doing as well as any retailers in the country. And we have other customers who are working hard on building new differentiated programs, e-commerce, et cetera. But what they all have in common is they've got to be priced right on the key items. So we're devoted to helping them do that. On the natural side, obviously, value is very important, but innovation and uniqueness is really important. I mean, we set a huge show on the West Coast called Expo West and there were 80,000 people out there trying to get advantage over each other. And we had a large team of merchants out there looking for new items and talking with customers to figure out what was going to create news and enthusiasm in their retail outlets in the second half. So there are different bases of competition. At the end of the day, it's all about retail execution. And I would say the biggest driver of our growth is the success of our customers.

Andrew Wolf

Analyst

Okay. And if I could just sneak one in on the gross margin, the contraction rate was a little better than last quarter and I think I asked about it last quarter as well. So is there anything particular or is that just sort of that in your own metrics or was it more realization or pricing or was it -- or mixed out better or better shrink? Is there anything significant that improved the gross margin rate sequentially?

Matteo Tarditi

Analyst

Yeah. So, Andy, we grew gross profit dollars by about $35 million, mostly through volume, but we also continue to see improvement in shrink and the progress with the suppliers programs that are very important part of our strategy. The rate was down about 20 basis points from 13.4% last year to 13.2%. And what we see is progress with reducing shrink, as Sandy mentioned that we're at one of the lowest levels that we've seen in a long time. We continue to see a ramp of our suppliers programs that you may recall aim at reducing friction and improving transparency while being accretive at the gross profit level. And we also start seeing some of the benefits of the commercial value creation and stronger underwriting activities. So it's very early innings. We know that it takes time to convert underwriting improvements into margin in backlog, but we started seeing signs of it. And we're also focusing a lot more on understanding mix with the stronger analytical tools that we have, whether it's customer or category and we actively work on those. So more to do there, but pleased with what we see, at least with the controls and shrink suppliers programs and the overall kind of underwriting environment.

Andrew Wolf

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question comes from Kelly Bania from BMO Capital Markets. Your line is open.

Kelly Bania

Analyst

Good morning, and thanks for taking our questions. I wanted to just ask what you're seeing with regard to demand for natural and organic by conventional retailers. I guess the idea several years ago was that the cross-selling opportunity was quite significant to get that kind of product into conventional retailers. And just wondering if you're seeing a change in their interest in kind of stepping into that further or if there's a change in even the marketing or sales effort to kind of do that cross-selling given just kind of the realignment that you're discussing?

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Hi, Kelly. Good question. I think the answer to that is yes. That opportunity that the team saw a bunch of years ago is still a very large one. And there's a whole lot of category momentum for natural, organic and specialty regardless of the channel. We're seeing that both across branded and then also across our own brand portfolio, particularly our Wild Harvest brand, which is doing extremely well in multiple channels. But we're seeing a very broad-based consumer trend towards better-for-you products and that would show up in our natural portfolio.

Kelly Bania

Analyst

Okay. That's helpful. And just a couple more questions. With the lean daily management and, Matteo, some of the figures you gave there it sounds like it's been implemented in the nine DCs. Are those more conventional DCs or natural DCs? And is the opportunity different as you look at those two sides of the business with this initiative?

Matteo Tarditi

Analyst

Good morning, Kelly. It's a very good question. It is a mix and a balance of natural and conventional DCs. So we obviously want to make sure that our teams embed lean and lean daily management principles equally, especially as we continue to evolve this kind of more decentralized model that Sandy described on natural and conventional. So it is in both. We see positive results in both. We really like the fact that now every day, we have nine teams that get together around standard KPIs on safety, quality, delivery cost and get into problem solving with the idea of fixing and developing countermeasures very quickly.

Kelly Bania

Analyst

Okay. Thank you. And just one more, I guess, on the new customer additions that you mentioned, Matteo, starting to cycle later this year. Any help you can give us on the magnitude of that? The channels that impacts and any insights into the pipeline for additional customer additions as we move forward?

Matteo Tarditi

Analyst

So when we think about the second half growth of 3% versus 4.6%, I would have a couple of considerations. First, we continue to see several opportunities to find profitable growth in natural and in conventional, obviously, faster growth in natural, but several opportunities in conventional as well. And then the offset to that is the fact that a few customers that we onboarded in the second half of 2024 will start cycling. So we'll have tougher comps in a way while still delivering the same absolute dollars in the second half of 2025 and beyond. So I would really think about a growth that we kind of enjoyed in the first half kind of decelerating or lapping in the second half of 2024 for the remainder of the year.

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Kelly, it's Sandy here. The one thing I would tack on though, which was part of your question is what does the pipeline look like and what I would tell you is that it's very strong. It's strong across the $90 billion addressable market that we've identified and we continue to see opportunity but I think the guidance we've given you is our high confidence guidance, but we're continuing to work to beat it.

Kelly Bania

Analyst

Thank you. That's very helpful.

Operator

Operator

And that concludes our Q&A session. I will now turn the call over to Sandy Douglas, CEO, for closing remarks.

Sandy Douglas

Analyst

Thanks, operator. As you heard on today's call, we continue to make solid progress on executing our multi-year strategy and delivering our full year outlook. We have an excellent and very focused team in place with capability growing every day. We remain laser-focused on creating value for our customers and suppliers, while making UNFI a more effective and efficient organization. We again delivered strong sales, adjusted EBITDA and free cash flow growth compared to last year's second quarter and our increased outlook reflects our year-to-date performance and growing level of confidence in our business model and customer base. As we implement our strategy, we've continued to gain additional insight and believe that the opportunities before us are greater than the progress behind us. To capture this opportunity, we know we must stay focused and strive to get better every day and we're committed to doing just that. By embracing lean management, we're becoming a more efficient and effective organization and creating sustainable shareholder value. For our customers and suppliers, we thank you for your continued partnership and the business we do together. For the UNFI associates listening today, our thanks to each of you, for everything that you do for our business, our customers, our communities and each other. And for our shareholders, we thank you for the trust that you continue to place in us. Thanks again for joining us this morning. We look forward to updating you on our progress in June.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes today's call. Thank you all for joining and you may now disconnect.