Christopher Reading
Analyst
Yes. So on the mandatorily redeemable noncontrolling interest, first of all, it's important to understand our deal, which I'm going to describe here momentarily and then what happens in practical terms. And ultimately, that mandatorily redeemable noncontrolling interest gets paid out at some point in time. Now in all of our deals, we have a minimum holding period that's typically -- in deals we're doing right now, typically 4 or 5 years, and the deals we've done in the more recent period, 4, 5 years. The vast, vast majority of that time, we are not redeeming that interest at the end of that minimum hold period because our partners are not leaving. In fact, our partners are happy. They continue to own a decent chunk of the business and they continue forward with us. What typically happens over a period of years beyond that minimum period is at some point along the way, that partner raises its hand, still isn't ready to leave. And maybe they own 30% of the business, but they might be interested in selling 10%. And at that point in time, we redeem that 10%. And that's of course, a cash expense. It's the same multiple that we paid for what the trailing 12 months EBITDA was when we did the deal, same multiple at that point in time for the PTM EBITDA. And then ultimately, when they leave the business, and they're ride off into the Sunset Retirement or whatever they're going to do, which the vast majority of our partners haven't done, then ultimately, we redeem whatever the remaining interest that they have. But again, many redeem little bits along the way, which we're not obligated to do but which we do in practice. And so ultimately, that full number is a cash expense that the business will ultimately occur, and we'll pick up the earnings from that side of the equation when we do that as well. Does that answer your question?