Martine Rothblatt
Analyst · Cowen and Company.
Yes. Thanks for the question. So it's really like super speculative to provide any kind of a meaningful answer to the question because we don't know what the regulatory time frame is going to be for sotatercept. So it's all but impossible to give you any kind of accurate sense. I will say that our revenue forecast is agnostic with regard to whether or not sotatercept is approved or not. In other words, we will remain confident about achieving the doubling of our revenues by 2025 without regard to its launch. There -- it's a very large and diversely treated patient population. Changes in treatment patterns are relatively slow and cautious especially other than frontline treatments such as like ETRAs or PD5s. So I'd be very, very skeptical that you would see an impact of sotatercept on United Therapeutics revenue profile or product uptake across the board, whether it's Remodulin, Tyvaso, Tyvaso DPI or Orenitram. More broadly, the experience has been that when new agents have been introduced into the market, it has grown the market for all of the existing patients. It's kind of like a market growth thing. You saw this with, for example, back in the day when we launched Remodulin and J&J's precursor Actelion launched bosentan, the treprostinil revenues did not shrink. In fact, they grew and then later on, when PD5s were introduced, the market for ETRAs, and treprostinil did not shrink. In fact, it grew, it grew quite a bit. And this has been just a continuous process, and it harkens back to the landmark number that you should keep in your mind that Michael Benkowitz mentioned in his remarks was 50,000, that's 5-0 thousand. That's the number of patients diagnosed with pulmonary hypertension. And all of these drugs have just like scratched the surface of being able to really treat the patients and get them back to a New York Heart Association Functional Class I or even Functional Class II level. So there is so much robust room for growth and improvement in pulmonary hypertension. We at United Therapeutics, welcome any new agent that can help the health of the pulmonary hypertension patient population. And by the way, all that is with respect to WHO Group I pulmonary hypertension. So everything I just said, then you've got this other huge pool that Dr. Peterson opened up with her New England Journal article, WHO Group III, 30,000 patients, that's 3-0 thousand, of which the only approved treatment right now is our Tyvaso drug. And I think sotatercept, I would love to see another good drug to help people with pulmonary hypertension. I don't think it's going to have any effect on our revenue growth. Next question, operator, and we'll have to cut it after that due to coming to the end of time.