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Q3 2013 Earnings Call· Thu, Nov 7, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to Visteon's Third Quarter 2013 Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. Before we begin this morning's conference call, I would like to remind you this presentation contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future results and conditions, but rather are subject to various factors, risks and uncertainties that could cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed in these statements. Please refer to the slide entitled Forward-Looking Information for further information. Presentation materials for today’s call were posted on Visteon's website this morning. Please visit www.visteon.com/earnings to download the material if you have not already done so. I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference call, Mr. Bob Krakowiak, Visteon's Vice President, Treasurer and Investor Relations. Mr. Krakowiak, you may begin.

Robert R. Krakowiak

Analyst

Thank you, Brent. Good morning, everyone. With us today are Tim Leuliette, Visteon's President and Chief Executive Officer; and Jeff Stafeil, Visteon's Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. We appreciate your interest in our company and for taking the time to join us to review the third quarter of 2013. We have scheduled the meeting for an hour, and we'll open the lines for your questions after Tim and Jeff's remarks. As previously mentioned, a presentation deck associated with today's call is posted on visteon.com within the Investor section. Also note that our Form 10-Q was filed earlier this morning with the news release. Again, thank you for joining us, and now I will turn it over to Tim.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst

Thank you, Bob, and good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us. Let's move right on into the presentation materials on Page 2. We had a strong third quarter. I think for all of you who are familiar with the automotive industry, you realize that third quarter typically is affected by downtime for model changeover and holidays in many of our key markets. But overall, we had a good performance in the quarter with Climate sales up 10%, Electronics sales up 12%, including 19% increase year-over-year in cockpit electronics. So a strong revenue base which got us to $1.7 billion for the quarter. Adjusted EBITDA of $160 million versus $34 million in third quarter of '12. I would ask you to look at the, obviously, the PV of how the EBITDA performance was versus that the revenue increase was quite strong. Adjusted net income of $59 million versus -- and EPS of $1.17 on an adjusted basis. Again as I said, Climate, Electronics strong in the quarter. A net 10% increase in the Climate revenue, their EBITDA was up 21%. Electronics was up 60% of EBITDA. We ended up the quarter with approximately $1 billion of liquidity, including our undrawn ABL which, obviously, we don't touch with the cash we have on hand. But I think what it's important about that is we did proceed in the quarter with $125 million ASB or accelerated share buyback program. I think many of you wondered as we announced in August what our plans were to start addressing that $1 billion share buyback. And we began immediately with this ASB piece of $125 million, which we executed within days. We still have $875 million remaining on that repurchase authorization. Lest we not forget, a few days after our Q2 announcement, we did…

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Tim. I'll begin my comments on Slide 17 of the deck. And before I get to the third quarter results, I want to provide a quick update on the status of the Yanfeng transaction. Regarding our expectations for timing and proceeds of the transaction, nothing has changed. We are still on track to close the predominant portion of the transaction in late 2013 or early 2014 and expect net pretax cash proceeds will be approximately $1.2 billion, with approximately $1.1 billion of the proceeds received at or near close, and the remainder received in June 2014 and June 2015. The right side of the page shows the impact of the transaction on Visteon's financials and has not changed from the data we've shown you in the past. At the top of the page, we provide a summary of historical dividends we received from Yanfeng, excluding YFVE, the Electronics venture. On the bottom of the slide, we show the net impact on Visteon's reported adjusted EBITDA relating to the transaction. In summary, nothing's changed from what we talked to you about before on this transaction. Turning to Slide 18. On this slide, we present our key financial results for the third quarter of 2013 compared to the third quarter of 2012. As we have explained on prior calls, our financial results are impacted by a number of items that make year-over-year comparisons difficult. The adjusted financial information presented on this slide excludes these items and represents how we manage the business internally. As non-GAAP financial measures, this adjusted financial information is reconciled to U.S. GAAP financials in the attached appendix on Pages 33 through 35. We had another very good quarter as we meaningfully improved versus prior year on topline sales and our profitability metrics. We will cover the…

Robert R. Krakowiak

Analyst

Thank you, Tim and Jeff. Brent, please open the phone lines for questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Colin Langan with UBS.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst

You mentioned already that in Q4, there's some tough comps. Can you just remind us of what are the major items? I believe there's some pretty large commercial recoveries last year that won't reoccur. Any color around what are the year-over-year headwinds?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst

Jeff, you want to...

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

Yes. The -- in the fourth quarter of last year, you'll see that the number of our margins were spiked. And when we were on the conference call talking about our fourth quarter performance last year, Colin, you had remembered, we talked about a large amount of commercial agreements and we also had, I'd say, just a number of true-up items across the year that we had pledged that we were going to focus, really, throughout the year in 2013. And I think we've done that. We've -- so the amounts are fairly significant as a portion to the Electronics business but, again, we see the margin improvements we made this year continuing in just without that spike in the fourth quarter that we had last year.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. And I noticed in Climate, your sales are up around 19% in the first half and they moderated a little bit this quarter. Is anything, from an end market perspective, that caused it to come down to 10% or is this just sort of normal year-over-year winds from last year?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst

The -- you saw in the first half -- I think, we saw a better delta in China, in particular, year-over-year than we were seeing in the Q3. Q4 still growth, still good, up versus prior year but not at the same rate. I think there's just some difference in deltas between markets. There's no falloff in anything there. It's just the comparisons year-over-year of market strengths in selected markets.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst

And then China is where the [indiscernible].

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

Yes, I think if you look at the Hyundai-Kia volumes in China, you'd see a huge growth in the first half of 2013 versus the first half of 2012. But they had already -- they had a nice growth in the back half of 2012. So the year-over-year comparisons are a little lighter.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst

And on the accelerated share repurchase program, did you say that was completed or is that still ongoing?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

We -- the way that works is we -- the $125 million, it's fully out of our treasury and fully out of our balance sheet. The process of those shares being delivered to us and the purchasing process from the agent executing that for us is not quite done. It'll be done in the fourth quarter.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. I wasn't sure [indiscernible] That.

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

But the cash is fully out of our balance sheet.

Colin Langan - UBS Investment Bank, Research Division

Analyst

Okay. And any -- what is you're -- sort of can you just give us your latest view of M&A, particularly within Electronics? I mean, what kind of targets would you be looking for? And how do you think of the opportunities that are available out there today?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst

Well, I think, we've said in the past, we don't comment on M&A activities other than to say that if there are accretive opportunities that bring technology or market presence to us in either of our core businesses, that we would be actively evaluating those opportunities. And I think I'll leave it at that.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Ryan Brinkman with JP Morgan. Ryan J. Brinkman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: So on Page 18, Jeff walked us through some of the items which might have impacted comparability year-over-year. I didn't hear you discuss work stoppages in Korea, which have sometimes been mentioned on these calls and sometimes not, but I think that there were some during the quarter. So curious if you were impacted at all by that.

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

Yes, Ryan. There was a brief strike in Korea. I would say that it's somewhat comparable to the brief strike they did in the previous year. So we didn't really call it out in our variances. But yes, there was a bit of a few days where they were out of work over there at one point.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst

We typically -- and we saw the same thing last year, as they lose 5, 6, 7 days perhaps, and then we pick up and recover that production in the Q4. And we see that occurring again this year. Ryan J. Brinkman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: Okay, got it. Can you talk about the scale of your Electronics business currently and if you think that the business could gain from getting some greater scale? I know what you do in Electronics has really nothing to do at all with what Lear does in the electrical space. But in that company, we've just noted that the margins just really took off once they started gaining some scale closer to that of their major competitors.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst

Yes. Well, I think the -- again, and I think I heard the whole question, the Electronics business at this point is going through commitments in new platforms, whether they're platforms on the cluster side or platforms on the infotainment side. And yes, you do get leverage when you expand the volumes and you do get revenue leverage on the investment in those platforms. What we typically see right now, if you look at where we see margin improvement, margin enhancement capability, as you know, we will be consolidating in the YFV component once we close the transaction in China, that'll give us that opportunity to consolidate that piece and more leverage those assets in China. We see some -- still some factory floor operating opportunities there. We will probably, over the short term, continue to see RD&E expenditures of about 12% gross and 9% net. There may be some improvement over time, 0.5 points here or there. But in absence of significant volume increases, that's the model. The margin improvement opportunities there, absent significant volume improvements, are still factory floor. And those are being worked. Does that answer your question? Ryan J. Brinkman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: No, I think that does help. Then just the last real aimed [ph] Question. Just on the customer recoveries, your increased -- your stronger EBITDA guidance state implies, obviously, a sequential increase in 3Q to 4Q and you talked in your opening remarks -- well, first, you [indiscernible], you're talking about how 3Q is typically softer, so I'm just curious what you penciled in from a customer recoveries perspective in 4Q? Because last year, and we should clearly not model what happened last year. It was amazing. But last year was better than you expected going in the quarter. So is there a potential to -- how will customer recoveries track differently as you have those conversations with automakers? Could there be potential upside to your numbers?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst

Okay, let me -- I'll start this and I'll throw it to Jeff. I think the key part of last year, as we said, was as we went through the accounts here and, again, as the management teams came on board, we reviewed where we stood with key customers. And there were some monies owed to us, not only through activities for '12, but also for activities in '11, that had yet to be paid. So the first thing we did is we went back and looked at trying to get current. Typically, there's a variety of different types of reimbursements here, from engineering, particularly. And those activities, some of them have different milestones. Sometimes our agreements cover our performance or operating targets and in all cases, it's now going back and vetting paperwork. And so we did recover activities in '11 that were due to us in December. But more importantly, there were milestones throughout the year of '12 that had yet to be recovered that we now -- and we made the commitment, I think, as we went into this year saying, "Look, we will try to do these now on a more of a quarter-by-quarter basis and not let these things bow wave in the Q4." And so the combination of recoveries from '11 and the combinations of events that should have occurred earlier in '12 added up to a bit of a bulge in Q4 of '12. And I don't think we have gone in and quantified the size of that bulge. But just to sit back and say that if you want to go back and look where we stand today, as we've given you guidance for the year and we've gone through 3 quarters, so you get a sense of where we believe our fourth quarter's going to be, and we're comfortable with that guidance.

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

Yes. I guess maybe a couple of other words, Ryan. If you go back, and I don't have the numbers sitting in front of me, but I believe our fourth quarter was something like $203 million of adjusted EBITDA in 2012. When we sat on our February call, we mentioned that there were some recoveries from 2011, and there was a lot of things in 2012 that had been sort of finally done in the fourth quarter, which we emphasized as being reflective or adding to maybe unnaturally to that quarter. As we look here, I'd say the margins and the stability of our margins have been better in 2013 relative to 2012 versus the first 3 quarters. As we look at Q4, I think we look at the core operating strength to be improved for especially the Climate and the Electronics business. But probably the relative piece of what you can look at from our year-to-date performance through Q3 versus the updated guidance we just gave you, that relative difference is going to be less than the $203 million we did last year, but still should reflect stronger operating performance sans those onetime items. And I'd model it consistent with the guidance we provided you. Ryan J. Brinkman - JP Morgan Chase & Co, Research Division: That's really helpful. Just a housekeeping item then on the ASR, are you able -- or would you expect to be making open market purchases the same time as the bankers is wrapping that up...

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

I mean, I think it's a good question, Ryan. I'd say from our -- as a general response to that, we said we would put out $1 billion share buyback right after we announced the YFV deal. We said the relative size of that buyback relative to our market cap was so significant that we gave ourselves a fairly long time. And we said we'd do a number of different vehicles, and open market purchases could be one, accelerated stock buyback, potentially tender offers, to be one. The challenge on the open market buyback in particular, but on any buyback that we engage in, we do need to have a clear day from a public information standpoint. So I'd say with the element of limiting factor of if it being a clear day, we certainly could go out and buy. But the mere fact we were out doing an ASB probably would have prevented us at that point.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Brian Johnson with Barclays.

Steven Hempel - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Barclays.

This is Steven Hempel, on for Brian Johnson. Just had follow-up questions on the Electronics business. And obviously, according to our estimates, the market is implying a little value to Electronics roughly around 1x FY to EBITDA post the YFV consolidation. I'm just wondering, moving forward here, you're making some efforts with the YFV consolidation along with increasing your stake in the Russian JV, Electronics JV. I understand your continuing to explore opportunities to optimize the size and scale of that business, but should we really think about that business as being grown organically or potentially through M&A? Or are you guys thinking about potentially, I mean, still divesting the businesses, is that still an option? Or will electronics become core moving forward? And a follow-up on that, which areas would you focus on? I understand cockpit electronics, definitely core right now, divesting some powertrain business. But competitors out there with the divestiture's remaining Electronics business, and any interest in that at all? So...

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Barclays.

Okay, let me just summarize up by saying Electronics for us is very core. We've made that statement, I think, very clearly. And we're committed to this business for a number of reasons. One, we have significant organic growth. We have a significant intellectual property portfolio. We've got a strong customer support for continued growth, and we like our low cost footprint. So as we look at the business, the first thing we assess is a, are we making money at it? And two, is it something that has a long-term opportunity set for us? The answer is, clearly, it does. As we then look at M&A opportunities in this space, as I've said, we have a balance sheet and we have the capability to go and do the kinds of things that makes sense. I think that we will -- since it is a core business, we'll always keep an eye out for those things that make either technical or market sense for us -- technology or market sense for us to expand. But this is not a business for sale at all. This is a business that we're going to grow. And we are as puzzled as you as why a business with that kind of growth, with that kind of margin and that kind of CapEx, I mean it's a real value driver, is valued as it is. But we think -- I go back to where we were 18 months ago when we said, "Look, we're going to spend the first year or so here, the new management team, addressing some of the cleanup issues." We still have one left to do of significance -- of partial significance, anyway, the Interiors side. But now we are migrating to focus in on these 2 strong core businesses,…

Steven Hempel - Barclays Capital, Research Division

Analyst · Barclays.

Great. And just one quick follow-up then on that. On an organic basis and moving forward with the Electronics business, post the YFVE consolidation, how should we think about the margin profile of that business? We've seen a lot of new products here in some of the slides, interesting products. One of the products was the one with a German premium OEM, that's definitely a positive. Just wondering where -- when should we start thinking about the benefit rolling into them, from the backlog, if at all? And how we should think about margins moving forward? Also if you could just update us on the capacity utilization in Electronics, specifically North America.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Barclays.

Yes. We have stated -- a good couple of questions. We have stated that we are targeting 100 to 150 basis points of gross margin improvement in that business over the next 3 years, and we still see that as a possible, clearly, and a necessary and probable act, because we still believe that we are not operating on the factory floor as we should. And so we still see some margin improvement there going forward. And we will see that into '14. From a standpoint of capacity issues, we do not have a capacity site, a manufacturing site in the United States. We do have in Mexico. We do utilize our primary electronics footprint globally, which is China, Mexico, Brazil and Portugal with some new facilities. You saw we announced one in Thailand. We announced the expansion in Russia as being adjuncts to what is our core manufacturing footprint. We do export from those sites on a global basis. From the standpoint of overall capacity, we are -- we have the capacity to expand in some areas, but I think the important element of electronics, which comes back to the value equation, is that you see that we spend around 2.25%, 2.5% of CapEx -- of sales on CapEx in that business. It's not a capital-intensive business, it's a software-intensive business. Our engineering focus -- and we are software-driven and our assembly capability is not a capital-intensive business because we -- again, we buy displays and screens. We buy things, we do the assembly, we do the work, we input our software. So we can expand that business without significant capital requirements. That's just the nature of our business model, and it's worked quite well.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matt Stover with Guggenheim.

Matthew T. Stover - Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Guggenheim.

Just a quick follow-up on that, Tim. If we think about sort of the outlook for growth in the Electronics business, how would you encourage us to think about a growth rate over the next several years in that business? Obviously, post integration of the YFV asset.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Guggenheim.

Well, we've stated that we have a 12% CAGR model in the forecast, so that we update our -- every January, our, if you will, our 3-year guidance and outlook for that business. But we have shown this year of being at 12% CAGR over the next 3 years. We think we're comfortable with that. I would say that in this business in particular, and I think this is kind of a unique segment in the auto industry, and that is this will grow as fast as we can commercialize next-generation technology. The kind of thing you'll see in the cluster, the kind you'll see that we're launching in Europe, I think will change dramatically how people look at the information flow to the driver. I think when you see the infotainment packages that are utilizing open-source designs, that's going to significantly lower the cost and, as I say, democratize the capability of taking this technology to a broader array of consumers. And the key to this is as soon as we can get it done, as soon as we can launch these products, as soon as they're ready for production, there's demand. And I -- we meet with a number of OEMs, and we're probing that element. The consumer Electronics industry moves at a much faster pace than the auto industry and launches. But the key is we've got to launch it with automotive reliability and quality and robustness, and that's that balance that we look at. So this is a business that's going to grow considerably higher than vehicle build for the rest of this decade and then the next. This is going to be the one of the major dynamic and exciting areas in the automobile.

Matthew T. Stover - Guggenheim Securities, LLC, Research Division

Analyst · Guggenheim.

Actually, I had a follow-on to that. I -- within the context of the commentary here, there had been a reference to the sale of the Interiors. I noticed that there was no sense of timing on that. And I'm wondering if you could kind of update us on that? And I know the original timing had been set towards the end of the year. Has that been pushed out or changed?

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst · Guggenheim.

As I think we have said, we don't comment specifically on timing. I'll just give you 2 inputs. One, it took us 8 months to negotiate a YFV transaction, and we weren't public about that until it was done. To not -- for us, not to be making comments or saying anything publicly about it, that's not to infer that we're not doing something on this moving it forward. We will -- we do not have a gun to our head as we've said, but it is something that we are comfortable with that we will deal with in a timely manner. So I'm going to give you no greater insight than that.

Operator

Operator

Your final question comes from the line of Kirk Ludtke with CRT Capital Group.

Kirk Ludtke - CRT Capital Group LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Just a couple of follow-ups, one on electronics and one on restructuring. I just -- my sense has been that whatever you do on Electronics M&A-wise is opportunistic rather than need-based, and I just want to confirm that. And if it is need-based, maybe I've got some follow-ups on that.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst

No. I think you're spot on. There's no technology we have to have to execute our game plan. If there's ways that we can get economies of scale, if there's ways that open customers up to us, if there's some opportunities as you said, we'll pursue it, but it's not a have to. I'd like greater scale in that segment. I think we've made that clear, but it's not something where we've got to go do that. I think you're seeing with the growth, 19% year-over-year in cockpit electronics, it's good business model. When you can grow at that rate with these kind of EBITDA margins, with a business that has 2.5% CapEx as a percent of sales, you can create a lot of value.

Kirk Ludtke - CRT Capital Group LLC, Research Division

Analyst

Great. I appreciate that. And then on restructuring, I guess you've got $59 million of the $100 million left to spend. Is that all in 2014? And then secondly, if and when you're able to exit some Interior plants, will that be incremental to the $59 million?

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

So to your first question, the $59 million at this point, we do expect to spend in 2014. As it relates to a question of would there be additional cash outflows as it relates to an Interiors business, I think that's too speculative right now to address. And we'll come to you as things become more definitive on Interiors.

Operator

Operator

We've now reached the allotted time for Q&A. I'd like to turn the call back over to Mr. Krakowiak.

Robert R. Krakowiak

Analyst

Thank you, Brent. I'd like to thank everyone for their participation in today's call. If you have any additional questions, please feel free to contact me at your convenience. Now I'd like to turn it over to Tim for his final comments.

Timothy D. Leuliette

Analyst

Thank you, Bob. I think, as we've said before and we'll say it now again, we're very comfortable with the path we're on. We've now transitioned from, what I call, the paint up, clean up and fix up era of this business, now focusing on the 2 core businesses of Climate and Electronics. They have indigenous growth opportunities. We see margin improvement. We see good customer reaction. We still have issues on Interiors and what have you to deal with that we are dealing with, and we'll deal with on a timely basis as we move this company forward. Visteon, at this point, we see as an engine of value creation, an engine of growth with a very good Asian and global footprint. So we appreciate your support. We look forward to a good Q4 and a good 2014. And we'll talk to you again in 90 days with the performance of the last quarter. So thank you, all.

Jeffrey M. Stafeil

Analyst

Thank you.

Robert R. Krakowiak

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's conference call. You may now disconnect.