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Vicor Corporation (VICR)

Q1 2013 Earnings Call· Thu, Apr 25, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. And welcome to the Vicor Earnings Results for the First Quarter ended March 31, 2013 Conference Call hosted by James Simms, CFO and Dr. Patrizio Vinciarelli, CEO. My name is Sheila and I’m your event coordinator. You are in the presentation. Your lines will remain on listen-only. (Operator Instructions) I’d like to advice all parties this conference is being recorded for replay purposes. And now I’d like to hand over to James. Please go ahead.

James A. Simms

Management

Thank you, Sheila. Good afternoon everyone and welcome to our conference call for the first quarter ended March 31, 2013. I’m Jamie Simms, Chief Financial Officer and with me here in Andover is Patrizio Vinciarelli, Chief Executive Officer, as well as Rich Nagel, our Chief Accounting Officer. Today we issued a press release summarizing our financial results for the quarter. This press release is available on the investor page of our website vicorpower.com. We have also filed a Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission in association with issuing this press release. I remind all of you today’s conference call is being recorded and is the copyrighted property of Vicor Corporation. I also remind you various remarks we may make during this call may constitute forward-looking statements for purposes of the safe harbor provision under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Our forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those explicitly set forth or implied in our statements. Such risks and uncertainties are discussed in our most recent forms 10-K and 10-Q filed with the SEC. Please note the information provided during this conference call is accurate only as of the date of the call. Vicor undertakes no obligation to update any of the statements made during this call, and you should not rely upon them after the conclusion of the call. A replay of the call will be available beginning at midnight tonight through May 10, 2013. The replay dial-in number is 888-286-8010 and the listener passcode is for 44260860. In addition a web cast replay of the conference call will be available on the investor relations page of our website beginning shortly upon it’s conclusion. I'll start this evening’s call with a review of our…

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Thank you, Jamie. As you may refer from Money Mart this afternoon's press release, I'm balancing the concern regarding our performance over the remaining quarters of 2013 with enthusiasm for the implementation of our OEM strategy, which is based on exciting new products, that either are already being sampled or would be introduced later this year. This strategy gives Vicor the opportunity to take meaningful market share, in what appears maybe an expanded low growth environment. Clearly uncertainty continues to reference domestic demand for our products, particularly in our traditional markets. The sequestration appears to have the chilling effect beyond defense electronics, with broader demand across industrial, instrumentation and transportation segments yet to recover to level of late 2011 or early 2012. While fourth quarter bookings appear to be an anomaly caused by the chaos in Washington, confirm about the bounce back in the first quarter has not yet seen the details of a broad robust recovery of sustained demand. While these direct relationship between cash and Pentagons project and reduce all this for our military grade products. These have lasted active relationship between cash in non-defense fellow spending and stayed at municipal level spending and reduced all this four our traditional commercial grade products. For example, reduce cost budges and lower long-term commitments to infrastructure, effect demand for our transportation products that go into railway and construction applications. Similarly, the cash to research and development whether via government research labs, university labs or founded product research affect demand for products targeted of sophisticated instrumentation, which is the industry segment that remains U.S. based. I could offer other examples in commercial aviation, robotics and medical equipment and most notably supercomputers. Given the pervasive impact of government spending on the U.S. economy, I am concerned we may not see a recovery…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. So ladies and gentlemen the question and answer session will now begin. (Operator instructions) Okay, the first question comes from the line of Ben Alexander. Please go ahead, Ben.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes, thank you. For somebody looking at your company for the first time, could you quantify in some fashion the opportunity that you see, and what type of operating performance you might be able to achieve looking, let’s say out to 2014? What’s going to drive that?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

So what is going to drive long-term growth is the new power platforms that we’ve been talking about. These new power platforms are from the likes of our Picor subsidiary focusing on system-in-a-package power management and power conversion solutions, and the likes of chip products from our V*I Chip division. These are products which in their own domains advance the sales with respect to key convertor attributes including density, efficiency and overall performance. While at the same time, providing a level of cost effectiveness that our plastic products never achieve, that in and of itself should lay irrational foundation for growth opportunity even in the first relatively slow growth environment as we might try to experience in the next several years. Does that answer your question?

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Well, it does it is helpful, but I know that the environment is uncertain, and you are feeling the impact of U.S. government raining in their spending and so forth, but if we assume the environment is going to remain pretty much the same, very muddled through with government cutbacks and things of that nature, what type of upside or long-term profitability do you think is possible or likely looking at a little longer-term when your products might gain some traction in the marketplace?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Well, I think you can tell, I suggested in earlier conference calls and in our meetings, we have highest [perfection] because with our products, we address very large market opportunity, that is already thirsty for solutions with that aggressive attributes of density, efficiency and cost effectiveness. And we believe that making products with this attributes available into our marketplace will bring about a change from solutions that historically have been handicapped by a custom measure or custom developments which are eminently not scalable. Two, the vision that we have been pursuing of a building block base methodology, lego blocks if you will for power systems. So you can refer from that, that the growth opportunity is very substantial, obviously Vicor is well [authenticated] in a very large market that the market in and of itself is large enough not to present a practical limit with respect to growth. Our ability to grow is going to be very much dependent on execution with respect to two key objectives of achieving a complete portfolio of products that is critical in terms of advancing complete solutions from the all practical point of growth as well as delivering those products with the requisite cost effectiveness, but with those elements in place, the growth opportunity is, I believe very, very large.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Well, does the company have in mind like an operating model, and what I mean by that is…

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

We do, but that’s not one that we would want to quantify in detail here, and that could be risk as you can imagine for a number of reasons. I think it’s fair to say that we’ve had disappointments in recent years regarding earlier projections, and this is a point that were to a larger degree was about by events beyond our control, ranging from large constellations of supercomputing products to severe cutbacks in the defense market, and that’s an indication of our carriers, the operating environment is, so stick your neck out with any kind of the detailed prediction of top line and bottom line performance into timeframe, as you suggested 2014 would be a very useful position that we’re not prepared to take, but the range of outcomes is obviously relatively wise, and I believe again that these exact deal offside.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you.

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from the line of Jim Buffet. Please go ahead your line is now open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

When you mentioned the potential significant orders in the second quarter, could it be – what area are those orders?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

In some of the new markets that we had targeted, and about which we told you about in earlier conference calls. So in computing, potentially supercomputing applications, as well as a communications applications.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

But these are not related to the new chip product line, is that correct or is that still…

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

We expect to start shipping chip products later this year, and we already have lot of designing activity for these products in these same end markets, and other markets. So but not anything of significance in terms of bookings for chip products this quarter, even though. I mentioned in our prepared remarks that we would actually began to get some actual purchase for these products. There’s lot of activity already, because we’ve been – even though there hasn’t been a formal product announcement, we only had an introduction of the chip technology platform as a packaging platform at APAC about a month ago. We have been sharing with some key customers, some of the product opportunities and these – I got your interest with respect to these products, and the kind of performance they’re enabling in certain applications with OEMs in the targeted markets.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

But the design end time on that’s probably similar to past experiences like 12, 18 months, two years?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Yeah, there is no instant gratification with respect to OEM products of the kind we make. So I think to your point a reasonable expectation for the beginning of significant contribution from chip products would be 2014.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

In late 2014?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

No. I think we’re going to see some action starting at the end of 2015, but they in and of itself is not going to be assuming that it comes in without delay, so which is always necessary carriers right? But even if it were to act an on time, because the customer program is on target, you will not be although substantial in 2015, but as we get into 2014, there are other programs and more activity involving a variety of chips, and so the celestial base gets to be more relevant, and I think it’s seasonal to expect we’re going to see significant contributions next year, likewise there has been already some significant level of activity for Picor chips, and some of these initiatives may turn into contribution to the top line in 2014.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

When you are looking at 2013, could you just give us an update on what the opportunities are for revenue increases, one from future and DigiKey as the decline this quarter? But how you see that progressing, and then add on to that your new distribution partner in China, as well as what’s happening in the IT space and given the SynQor suit and just give us an update on what’s happening in that regard given their latest action?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

And it is more than a mouthful, but let me take it in small parts. So regarding your first question, I think again without getting quantitative, we do expect a progress through (inaudible) this year in terms of top line. Regarding the bottom line, our bottom line is least as known, it is. So dependent on the top line, given a fixed cost ratio that in our ability to be profitable, we will pretty much depend on raising the revenue level to levels at least comparable to the levels of the earlier part of 2012. There is an opportunity for that as this year accounts to close and we think there is an opportunity for considerably better than that as we get into the 2014. Regarding the second part of your question with respect to the trends, it precede in connection with the SynQor litigation. SynQor has been aggressively asserting its patents against the so called (inaudible) and defendants in a first litigation in Texas, and aggressively asserting pretty much the same patents against us and Cisco in a second litigation also brought in Texas. As you reference, SynQor is called a victory in terms of being able to add the fellow circuit up on – in a world of damages in the adjacent case without changing any of the parameters of the other world, they declare victory in their context and issued a press release including statements that are from our perspective mostly characterizing their monopoly of so called IBA. We believe that SynQor did not invent idea – SynQor is not entitled to any IBA patent, and by that I mean the power distribution architecture that has become norm as IBA. All that SynQor did back in 1997 is to invent a lifeline to AC to DC Converter,…

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And what has happened to your IBC audit, any other way down from what you expected and at last I heard that it sounds like you should be getting some at level, but some increasing orders in 2013 is that is that been the case or not?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Vicor through that perhaps has at least up to this point succeeding holiday back the ma, the wavier interest that many customers had most identified problems and we obviously all do them accountable for that. But, as I ah that I can say that we may progress in spite of that because sophisticated customers can tell the clients are without irrational from their side and are attracted to our products because of the superiority, the higher efficiency that cost effectiveness. So in spite of all this Vicor apps we have been able to make progress and commit progress in that regard.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. And the next question comes from the line of John Dillion. Please go ahead. Your line is open. John Dillon – JB Associates: JohnPatricia.

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Hi, John. John Dillon – JB Associates: Patricia, first of all thank you for that explanation of the law suit, that was incredibly helpful and for me to hear you explain that in the detail that you did, thank you. My question is on bookings. Bookings were up pretty substantially and that’s great, but I am just wondering in this current macro environment, do you see that curve continuing to go up for bookings in the foreseeable future?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Well, I think I’, acknowledging the headwinds and the flexibility accounts with that. The short answer would be yes, we do see progress as the year progresses. Again subject to two potential upside coming from Viro, France, but if your passionate is that there is going to be a booking growth sequential bookings growth and sequential revenue growth as the year progresses. John Dillon – JB Associates: Great.

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

And definitely that will result in a change in the sign of the bottom line. John Dillon – JB Associates: Great. And with that, do you have any plans to bring back some of the workers that were paralleled or haven’t them brought back?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

None have been brought back and not we have a near-term plan to bring it back pragmatically looking these kinds of decisions difficult as they are and agonizing as they’re because of all the effect they have. It would be foolish to make such decision in the first place with the impact of bringing the people back in the near time horizon. We are practically having taken the decision looking at doing the utmost in order to improve our productivity, reduce our cost structure so as to improve the level of portfolio ability we are going to be able to sustain once the top line improves. John Dillon – JB Associates: Okay. And you’ve talked about the improvement in the communications market a number of times, I’m just wondering, can you give us a little bit more color in that, because it sounds like that there’s a bright spot for you, even you still have some hurdles, because of the losses?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

So, I think to some extent we talked about this. We had significant challenges with about by SynQor, perhaps those types recently been renewed and they’re first clients, they particularly vis-a-vie our products. It caused damage to us. But again, the damage is to some degree limited by their field of products and the fact that certain customers have learned how to deal with this kind of an issue and find the products compelling enough to want to use them or design them into new applications. John Dillon – JB Associates: So, do you see consistent growth in that market going forward?

James A. Simms

Management

We see growth in the communication space and as I mentioned in past conference calls, we see growth in that space, not just for bus converters, but particularly for other Vicor products that have caught the attention of key OEMs in that space. Once they became better aware of our technological capabilities, which was made evident by the superiority of our bus convertors. So as these casting for our calls, parts of our strategic decision to enter the bus converter market with products that compete within the standard Brick but do so with much more advanced technology was not just to capture the market opportunity that was being created by SynCor’s initial win. I guess the competitors, copy cat competitors. But also significantly in order to make evident to key customers in that space that Vicor is uniquely equipped with much more advanced technology which can be leveraged in realizing more advanced systems. So more and more we are making new roles with these customers not with IBI solutions or it could be bus or (inaudible) solutions, but with other kinds of products ranging from point of load, multipliers to AC to DC product opportunities. John Dillon – JB Associates: Great, great. A question to Jamie, a quick one for Jamie, Don McKenna asked a very interesting question last conference call, and it was basically a treaty about some of the stock options the other guys have, any sales guys that were brought on. So Jamie, I want to ask you a similar question, the bulk of your stock options are at $12 to $13 a share, what makes you hang around because obviously you hang around for more than the salary, so can you give us a little insight as to what motivates you to hang around, and what you see us can drive Vicor so you can profit smart?

James A. Simms

Management

I’ll make sure you say that working for me, such a (inaudible). Can you point out the treaty is hard charisma, look I think we have tremendous opportunity here, I’m not going to deny certain level of disappointment that I share with the investors on this call but I think to turn your question sort of inside out, I think you should take some degree of comfort that we do retain, the employees, the leaders of the company because we all have a shared vision with Patrizio that this is a tremendous opportunity. Now, I’ve said before that when I arrived here five years ago, more than a few of the problems that we were facing were of our own designs, whereas, five years later, we are executing on what we can do internally. What had happened is we’ve run into the much discussed macro issues and we’ve run into the challenges of transitioning our model and we’ve run into the litigation, which inhibited progress in a very promising market. So I think that to the extend that you look to – why I stick around I think it’s very clear that it’s because of the long-term opportunity to really redefine as Patrizio calls it the power paradigm. John Dillon – JB Associates: Great, thanks very much guys. Thank you.

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Well, Jamie is going to figure out long after I’m gone. John Dillon – JB Associates: I hope so. Thank you folks.

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Any other questions?

Operator

Operator

Yeah, the next question comes from the line of Alan Hicks. Please go ahead. You are live in the call.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Yes, good afternoon. I had a question about the supercomputing market I know you are a strong player there in the past, but how does that look for you and imagine that’s going to be lumpy, but do you have big opportunities like you’ve had in the past?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Yeah, we do and I think what’s happening with respect to that is that new opportunities are coming about from new major players in that market, so as you might know our use of transaction was very much focused on one major player, another larger and I think of late we’ve seen significant progress elsewhere and this is really driven by the compelling nature of our solutions that the fact that more and more invest base given competitive challenges key OEMs are driven to go on leverage the best of power technology in order to make their products more competitive. So this is a case where the current difficult environment is catalyzing and your top process on, on several fronts including with companies that historically were really changed to a commoditized power methodology so that speaking out of box they see that the user volume position. I’ve been recently in trips that have been very encouraging in terms of new opportunities.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay. So you tell you have about new opportunity but it hasn’t come together yet?

James A. Simms

Management

Well, I think these are new designed activities so the same comments apply as earlier May, with respect to time for fruition I think at the first one of these opportunities the 2014 event.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

And also on the new packaging technology as that began to ship already?

James A. Simms

Management

We sampled it to a number of customers but there has been no production shipments yet there has been no formal product introduction yet, but I suggested earlier a number of this new opportunities have to do with woodchip products.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, that’s somewhere in the second half of the year?

James A. Simms

Management

While the first one was scheduled to go into production is in the second half of the year with more opportunities, more designing activity in 2014.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Okay, thank you very much.

James A. Simms

Management

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. The next question comes from the line of John Dillon. Please go ahead. You are live in the call. John Dillon – JB Associates: Just a quick one guys, Patrizio what’s the new packaging technology, if you guys truly have a cost card compared with other power supply technologies and then on top of that you have all your benefits on top of it?

Patrizio Vinciarelli

Management

Yes, so it’s game changer in terms of the cost-effectiveness of the platform, it's also game changer with respect to (inaudible) and what they mean by that is that unlike our first-generation V.I Chips made into cavities, so that in effect a new power line would require a new significant tooling to support that new power line. The whole of formal technology platform which we have marketed and branded as chip technology is that it’s seriously highest scalable, it goes while this fundamentally manufacture is not a device, but an array of devices. And so throughout the manufacturing process what is being made is not in affect a single chip, but an array of chip, their chip can comprise anywhere from really few to as many as approximately 100s of them in one panel. So this is for power and power components what if you will away from methodology for silicon chips in that. As with wafers, you can have in effect a general platform that will be in a certain wafer geometry defending on the chip size can provide a larger or smaller number of devices and that’s highly scale oriented you can without significant inter metal tooling cost accommodate application reformers for larger or smaller chips. Well that’s same methodology applies with our CHIP Technology. We have a senior level color body. So these things are bought again across the effectiveness because nothing goes to waste. Unlike the case for first generation V*I chips we’re quite development of the cost where in effect sank in terms of materials due to inefficiencies in the power. And the equipment measure of that process for each type of V*I Chip, with chips much more scalable nothing goes to waste we can rapidly scale up or scale down as needed to be. Our engines within this package address general power deployments ranging from less than 100 watts or even less than that all the way out to several kilohertz in fairly large chip, so it’s a technology platform, we would like once again it’s going to take time but and obviously there has been a lot of time already invested in this. Would we have very strong IP foundation for this technology. We have basically if you’re getting a long-term expectations for it’s contribution at the top and bottom line. John Dillon – JB Associates: It sounds great. Thanks, looking forward to next conference call.

Unidentified Company Representative

Analyst

And with that if there are no other calls we look forward to talking to you again in a few months. Thanks very much and good night.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. So ladies and gentlemen, that now concludes your conference call for today. You may now disconnect. Thank you for joining, and enjoy rest of your day.