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Virtu Financial, Inc. (VIRT)

Q1 2019 Earnings Call· Sat, May 4, 2019

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Michelle and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Virtu Financial 2019 First Quarter Results. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Andrew Smith, Head of Investor Relations, Virtu Financial. Please go ahead.

Andrew Smith

Analyst

Thank you, Michelle. Good morning, everyone. As you know, our first quarter results for 2019 were released this morning and are available on our website. Speaking and answering your questions today are Mr. Douglas Cifu, our Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Joseph Molluso, our Chief Financial Officer. We will begin with prepared remarks and then take your questions. Today’s call may include forward-looking statements, which represent Virtu’s current beliefs regarding future events, including the announced transaction and are therefore subject to risks, assumptions and uncertainties, which may be outside the Company’s control and our actual results and financial condition may differ materially from what is indicated in these forward-looking statements. We refer you to the cautionary notes regarding forward-looking statements in our press release and encourage you to review the description of risk factors contained in our Annual Report on Form 10-K and other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. It’s important to note that any forward-looking statements made on this call are based on information presently available to the Company, and we do not undertake to update or revise any forward-looking statements as new information becomes available. In addition to GAAP results, we may refer to certain non-GAAP measures. And you will find a reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to GAAP trends included in the earnings material. Now, I would like to turn the call over to Douglas Cifu, our Chief Executive Officer.

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Thank you, Andrew. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us today. This morning we reported our first quarter 2019 results, which include the results of ITG from March 1, the date the ITG transaction closed. I want to comment on the quarter as well as highlight some things we have learned and achieved since closing ITG on March 1. Looking at the first quarter results, our normalized adjusted EPS was $0.34 and our adjusted net trading income was $229 million, with $178 million from Market Making and $51 million from Execution Services respectively. This quarter’s results reflect the 11% decline in U.S. equity volumes and 42% drop in realized volatility of the S&P 500 Index that occurred during the quarter. That said, our businesses performed well given the reduced opportunity set for Market Making and our Execution Services results were quite strong relative to the market environment, helped by growth in our workflow and analytics businesses. Our adjusted EBITDA margin at 54% demonstrates our commitment to deliver superior returns in any market environment. While it is still early, we already are seeing the powerful strategic potential of the Virtu-ITG combination beginning to come together. ITG at its core has always been a world-class product company with an extraordinarily diverse range of products that lends itself to more recurring revenues, a sticky customer base and keen opportunities to organically grow over our Execution Services' revenues. As we have made very clear to our global customer base, we intend to not only retain, but to invest in this full suite of products to improve performance and expand our offerings across asset classes and geographies to better serve customers. It is important to note that nearly 80% of legacy ITG revenues were generated by clients using workflow analytics or CSA products…

Joseph Molluso

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open

Thank you, Doug. Virtu reported this morning adjusted EPS of $0.34 on adjusted net trading income of $229 million. We recorded $124.2 million of adjusted EBITDA for the quarter, representing a 53% EBITDA margin. GAAP results, which show a net loss of $13.6 million, is the result of one-time costs as a result of the closing of the ITG acquisition, including transaction fees, financing fees, severance and amortization of intangibles. These results include the results of ITG from March 1 through the end of the quarter. Going forward, Virtu will maintain the same three operating segments for reporting purposes that we have had in the past, namely Virtu Market Making, Virtu Execution Services and Corporate and Other. Virtu Market Making and Corporate and Other will not be affected by the ITG transaction. The results from legacy ITG’s full suite of products and services including execution services, workflow and analytics will be included in the Virtu Execution Services operating segment. On a supplemental basis, you can see that we will provide similar information as we have in the past. We will provide results for global equities market making, global fixed and other market making and global execution services. This supplemental information gives the public the best presentation of how we, as a management team, run the respective businesses and is the best way to interpret the environment within the context of our results. Looking at the adjusted net trading income figures for this quarter, it’s important to note that the market opportunity had decreased as compared to 4Q 2018, specifically. Consolidated U.S. ADV was down 11% from 4Q 2018 to this quarter. Realized volatility was down 42% versus the fourth quarter. The S&P averaged a daily move of less than 80 basis points in 14 consecutive weeks in Q1. The average…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from Dan Fannon from Jefferies. Your line is open.

Dan Fannon

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Hi. Good morning. I guess, Doug, to start just in terms of the environment in the quarter. It seems like obviously realized vol got soften throughout the quarter. Can you talk about other factors that were either positive or negative in the quarter that drove the results and maybe talk about kind of April and kind of what’s happened starting here in the second quarter?

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Sure. Thank you. Good question. Yes, I mean, it’s – and you guys have all the data we’ve provided supplementally obviously Q1 starting actually January started and felt similar than to Q4. And it was definitely a drop-off from December where there was as it has been well reported, a real volatility. But then, there was a real decline, if you will, from February and March in volatility. And I think, you have a marketplace that’s going in a single direction from January through March and that means you don’t have a lot of level transitions and big indices and obviously the Fed hasn’t been doing anything. So that just stifles trading, if you will. And again, we see that globally, it’s not just in U.S. equities obviously that’s our biggest segment and people tend to focus on that, but it’s also the same. We saw the same thing in FX and whatnot. And so as a result, it obviously impacts our results. April appears to be – it was much as – it was very similar. Realized volatility in April from the first quarter was down roughly 48%. I think realized volatility is about a little under eight right now, which is again a pretty low number. So a pretty muted environment. Again, as I’ve said on these calls for the last three-plus years, we’ve built the firm obviously long-term for a feast and the famine. We’re not in the feast environment right now, but still we had significant operating margins. I think, the exciting thing which we talked about in the prepared remarks is that the Execution Services segment kind of helps serve very well. I think a lot of that has to do with two things: one, that give a lot of credit to the scope and…

Dan Fannon

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Yes. Thanks. And you gave us a lot on Slide 5 and a lot around the opportunity set with ITG. Is there a way to put some numbers around what the kind of potential cross-sell kind of revenue opportunity on the combined basis you see based on kind of some of the early success you’re having?

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Yes. I mean, look, it’s a great question. I mean, I think, look, the statistic that I put in there on a percentage that I think is the most important thing is that 80% of algo users are also workflow technology and analytics and commission management users. So to me, that’s kind of prima facie evidence that this firm historically has done a nice job of cross-selling. Now you have a full suite of liquidity products. We tried to outline them all, but we make markets in just about anything that can be traded electronically in any marketplace that allows us to be a market maker. So we’ve got ETF blocks, we’ve got FX, and now we have a delivery mechanism more. So it’s hard, Dan, to sit here and size that opportunity, because we’ve never had access to asset managers in Europe, for example, to distribute our FX products through a trading platform. So it’s early stage to kind of scale or size what that opportunity will be. We’ll probably provide a little more information in that I think next quarter as we get a little further into it. But look, we’ve seen competitors that are kind of getting out of the business, if you will. Bloomberg is shutting down some of its operations in order management and execution management. And so it’s a real opportunity for us to grab more real estate and to be on the desktop. That’s the most exciting thing. I don’t think people truly appreciated the power and the scope and the importance, if you will, of the ITG products. I said it in my prepared remarks and I will continue saying it over and over again. ITG is a wonderful product company. It has now given Virtu the opportunity to be a wonderful product company from pre-trade to post-trade. And with our understanding of multi-asset class capability, I think we really are building something very important. And we’re investing – for the record, I will say it again, we are keeping these products, not only are we keeping them, we’re investing in them, we’re going to make them better and more performant.

Operator

Operator

And your next question will come from Rich Repetto from Sandler O’Neill. Your line is open.

Richard Repetto

Analyst

Yes. Good morning, Doug. Good morning, Joe. It’s obviously ringing through how excited you are about the cross-selling opportunities with ITG and all the things you mentioned on Slide 5 and 6. So I guess the question is on the headcount you brought headcount down and you sort of addressed this in the prepared remarks, but it looks like ITG, it was 8.88 that it was a little bit lower than what we thought it was to begin with and you’re reducing headcount and you’re moving up the synergies as well. So I guess the question is, is the sales force strong enough to take advantage of these opportunities and well – could you – I guess that’s the question. Do you – given the synergies, the headcount reductions are you able to take these opportunities that you’re so excited about?

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Yes, that’s a great question. I’ll give the ITG management team that was here a lot of credit, because I think, number one, there’s great people here. Number two, there’s a wonderful sales force that has very, very deep relationships. I was with one of our salesmen yesterday in Milwaukee, great town, and it was just very apparent the depth of the relationships that this gentleman had with a number of large institutions in Milwaukee, for example. And that’s really in large measure, Rich, asset that we bought. ITG is a firm, and I said this publicly and I’ll say it again that was a superior firm as an institutional firm than was Virtu, because of two factors: one, the products; and two, the very deep long sustained relationships that they have had. So much like we did in the KCG transaction where the headcount reductions did not impact the great sales and relationship management and coverage people, on the desk at KCG and our retail and institutional business, it’s going to be the same story here. So redundancies come from overlap between middle and back office functions and management layers and legal, finance, compliance and things like that, which are unfortunate but that’s kind of where they come from. They generally do not come, Rich, from coverage. And ITG had a very, very well-trained, very deep culture of cross-selling products already. We’re now obviously training them in not only the Virtu algos, but in the Virtu liquidity. And I think the opportunities, as you can tell by the enthusiasm of my voice, are very significant. Now for the first time our colleagues, our new colleagues that are trying to sell FX analytics, for example, have access to FX market makers that understand every venue where FX is traded where we trade 95 pairs every day. You can’t really put a dollar amount on that level of expertise within the firm and ability to cross-sell. We’re really going to be upgrading our ability to sell multi-asset class products globally.

Richard Repetto

Analyst

Got it. And that’s helpful. It seems like the conversation has now gone to revenue synergies rather than revenue dis-synergies. But anyway, my last question is, going back one time – I know you’re probably not going to do this going forward, but the breakout, can you give us the ITG contribution from March in the Execution Services?

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Yes, Rich, we have not yet done that. What I would say is if you look at Page 8 of supplemental materials and if you look at the difference in Execution Services between 4Q and 1Q, I mean, it’s obvious that the – I would say the significant portion of that increase is due to the fact that we are owned and operated ITG for one month. So there’s no real mystery there in terms of how that number grew from 24 to 51. So that was – that is a good representation of the contribution.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Alex Blostein from Goldman Sachs. Your line is open.

Alex Blostein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open

Hey. Good morning, guys. Thanks. So I was hoping we can maybe double-click on what happened in the global equities bucket. I think, in the past you used to break it down between America’s and non-U.S. Sorry if I missed it in the release or the deck somewhere, it doesn’t look like it was in there. But can you help dissect a little bit more sort of the trends between those two buckets like you’ve done in the past?

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open

Sure. Yes. I mean, going forward, we’ve combined the bucket you’re right. It’s less. As we’ve grown and expanded the firm, our view is, we’re a market making firm with an execution services business within market making we looked at equities as kind of a global product, if you will, and it’s very integrated, because we trade a lot of cross-border and we’ve now migrated the KCG products or KCG quant strategies, excuse me, globally. So they really are fully integrated. And then obviously global FICC is largely FX and the commodities products that we trade. The largest part of our Market Making business and certainly largest part of global equities is Americas equities, not a surprise. The largest segment within that, Alex, continues to be what we call VCMM or Virtu Customer Market Making business, which is largely the former KCG 605 or Retail Market Making business. It’s no mystery when realized volatility declines and volumes decline is a disproportionate that business tends to have its ups and downs, and this was a quarter where we had downs because realized volatility was significantly lower in the first quarter and volumes were significantly lower in the first quarter as compared to the fourth quarter. And as a result, there’s less opportunity and less flow we’re getting from our retail partners, and less opportunity for us therefore to internalize and less opportunity for us to make P&L, kind of simple. It’s somewhat formulaic for us internally, because obviously we have all the input and data. I know obviously we can’t share that level of input with the universe, because we do have competitors out there. But I can assure you there’s no fundamental change or trend, if you will, that has happened with respect to that business. It’s just really the ebbs and flows of volume and volatility in the business. We’ve now owned it, I guess, this is our fifth or sixth full or partial quarter, and so we’ve really gotten very familiar with the trends in terms of how the flows come in and how toxic or not toxic they are and what the opportunity set is. And the first quarter candidly was right in line with our expectations, unfortunately, given the opportunity.

Alex Blostein

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open

Got it. Okay. Thanks. And then on the pace of capital deployment, I guess, as you guys have closed the deal now, maybe help us through the pace of deleveraging from here and whether or not we should generally assume that kind of all their excess cash flows net of dividend will just go toward deleveraging and kind of the pace of that?

Joseph Molluso

Analyst · Goldman Sachs. Your line is open

Yes. I think, at the outset, we said that we wanted to get back to our kind of long-term debt to EBITDA target of two times to 2.5 times by the end of 2020, Alex. So I think we’ll still be on that target. We said, a portion of the $125 million excess capital from the ITG transaction, in part, would be used as part of sources and uses to fund the transaction and we did that. I think, as we approach the call date of our bond, you will – we will save the dry powder here to do something, should we decide that the market opportunity is there to lower our cost of funding, we’ll do that; and we will likely incorporate some of that capital deployment with that. But then going forward, yes, I would assume that the pace of debt reduction will be similar to what we outlined at the time of the transaction as we get to that long-term role.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Chris Allen from Compass Point. Your line is open.

Chris Allen

Analyst · Compass Point. Your line is open

Good morning, guys. I was wondering if you can just maybe help us think about the pace of the synergies in 2019 as it gets fairly easy to conceptualize for 2020. Maybe just a rough idea of what’s in the run rate right now. Is it going to be kind of gradual realization or there’s going to be kind of some tipping points in terms of technology integrations going forward, just so we can model correctly from a quarterly perspective?

Joseph Molluso

Analyst · Compass Point. Your line is open

Yes. No, I think, if you look at Page 9, I think, we did two things a little bit differently here. The one thing we did the same as we provided you with some very specific tight guidance, that’s our philosophy. We want to anchor expenses in everyone’s model, because the rest of the business is obviously difficult to model. The two things we didn’t do yet is kind of break it out between first-half and second-half and then give overall 2020 guidance. I think you’re right. When you look at the synergy run rate achieved, $114 million where 85% of the weight there at the end of a 10-month period when we announced the transaction, we estimated a $133 million over 18 months to 24 months. So we’re obviously way ahead of the game. I think what we’ve also said consistently is that we will – the pace of realization here will be gradual and sort of uniform as opposed to, I think, on the KCG acquisition, it was more – it was just chunkier given the nature of the business. So I think this will be gradually uniform. And then, in the coming months, we will begin to guide on 2020 expenses as well to give you the ultimate synergy number. The 85% the $114 million here is 14% of that combined cost base. I think when we announced the deal, we said we wouldn’t achieve the 58% that we got from KCG. But take to say we’ll do better than the 15%.

Chris Allen

Analyst · Compass Point. Your line is open

Got it. I mean, any chance you can give us kind of what 1Q 2019 pro forma adjusted OpEx would look like?

Joseph Molluso

Analyst · Compass Point. Your line is open

Again, we haven’t provided those two months of January and February. If you look at that actual number and you compare it to fourth quarter actual, it’s kind of like the revenue story, you can gross it up and make an estimate. But what we did is we took down – to come up with $114 million, we compared it to the 802. But obviously if we did the synergy number off of 802, that wouldn’t be apples-to-apples. So we have to cut the 802 based on a 10-month run rate for ITG to make it apples-to-apples.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from Kaimon Chung from Evercore. Your line is open.

Kaimon Chung

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Hi. Maybe I just want to go back to the Execution Services. Wondering if you could just provide more color as to the mix of the increase between the new and maybe existing clients and what you think is a good run rate from here.

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Yes, good question. The ITG acquisition closed March 1st, so it really was largely from existing clients. It’s early days in terms of trying to prospect for new clients. The one thing I will say, which I’ve been very happy with and you can kind of kick the tires on this and due diligence, but once you can’t really know until you get under hood, there is very little overlap on the Execution Services business in terms of the client base. We shared a lot of clients in the sense that they were all papered on both sides of the houses. But in terms of the real business and we have a flow comes from there’s very few clients where there is any significant overlap. And even where there is overlap, it might be the high touch business was at Virtu and the low touch business was at ITG on the Execution Services side and vice versa. So the existing client activity is really growing. The good news also is that ITG, the legacy ITG business had a real preponderance of global asset managers and that’s the exciting opportunity for us, because what we have found is if you are – if you’ve got some market share in one region, it’s an easier sell, if you will, to cross sell that product regionally. And the one great thing – there’s many great things about the Virtu algo product, but the very – one of the great things about the Virtu algo product is that it’s not regionalized. It obviously is smart enough to understand market structure in various regions, but it is uniform, scalable and global. So if you are a global asset manager and your global head of trading is located in London, the suite of products you want…

Kaimon Chung

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Okay. Thanks for that. And then maybe can you talk about your plans to the MarketAxess partnership and would you be able to size that opportunity over the next couple of years?

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Evercore. Your line is open

Yes. I mean, that’s a great example of – obviously, as you know, I’m in a very great relationship with Chris Concannon used to be my partner here and he’s the new President there. The conversations between the two firms had been going on for a while. When Chris took the job there with my other good friend Rick McVey, we just called each other and said, hey, this makes a lot of sense. You’re very good. I’m speaking about MarketAxess, obviously it’s a world-class firm, I have a lot of respect for it and they’ve got a very, very strong following. Obviously, in terms of credit and other fixed income products that people want to trade on a cash basis, we have this great product called RFQ-hub, which is a leading RFQ matching service. It should be and it will be expanded dramatically into a global ETF RFQ product and fixed income in particular is an asset class where RFQ capabilities is really desirous particularly in post mid to two world in Europe. Virtu, as you well know, is a market maker in global ETF, in particular, we’re very strong here in the United States in fixed income ETFs. We’re a big market maker in block size HYG and JNK and other fixed income type of products and we have a streaming NAV product that we use for our own internal market making. So it made a lot of sense. How do we distribute those products, if you will, to the thousands of great customers that MarketAxess has developed over the years globally? Well, we’re effectively buying distribution for our eNAV and for our RFQ products through another distributor. And so, it’s not exclusive and I will do this with other companies that have access to clients. I’m very done with the model of having direct relationship with the customer or going through another distributor and sharing the revenue. So, in terms of opportunity set, that’s a nice opportunity, it’s going to be a seven-figure opportunity we hope for us over time and it’s an example of a good partnership. It also helps us as a firm to be a stronger market maker in fixed income, having a close relationship and really working very hand in glove with MarketAxess, which is a leading fixed income, electronic platform obviously is a good thing as well. So it was a win-win situation all around, and on top of that, I got to talk to Chris Concannon, which is always a good thing.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Your next question comes from Michael Cyprys from Morgan Stanley. Your line is open.

Michael Cyprys

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Your line is open

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I’m just curious around crypto, how you’re thinking about the opportunity set? There’s some headlines this morning around Facebook getting into that. Just curious how you see evolution there and opportunities for you guys longer term.

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Your line is open

Yes. Great question. Look, I mean, as an asset class, the great thing is I don’t have to make a judgment as to whether it’s useful or valid or sustainable. That’s not my job and I’m not a – I don’t run a hedge fund, I don’t run a big bank, so I don’t make statements like that. What I’ve said publicly and I will state again is, if there are regulated markets where we are very comfortable with the counterparty risk around electronic trading of any type of digital or crypto type currency whether it’s as a future or as a spot product, if you will, and there is transparency as to how it is executed, cleared and settled in a way that we are comfortable with, will market make it very, very simply. That’s kind of how we look at the universe. And so, we have made investment in the Eris digital platform. We’re believers in that. Don Wilson is a world-class talent and they’ve got – we’re working on a product there. So we’ve made that investment and we’re really a market maker on Eris and so we’re a believer there. Again, but we are the Switzerland of liquidity provisioning. So if there are other exchanges whether futures exchanges or spots exchanges around the world, we will be a market maker there. Again, but it has to be a situation where we feel responsibly that we can understand what the counterparty risk, understand what the market structure looks like and have a very clear settlement and clearing process. There’s a number of great firms that are working on that. We’re working with a number of firms behind the scenes to help design products that we find that we think are exciting. Some of our retail partners have announced, as you indicated, that they will jump into the space on behalf of their customers, and so therefore, we will be great business partners with our retail partners and provide two-sided liquidity in these products as they evolve. So I’m excited about it. Again, not making any qualitative judgments as to the necessity or validity of these products. As long as they’re in an environment that feels Virtu-like, we will be a market maker.

Operator

Operator

I have no further questions in queue. I’ll turn the call back over to Douglas Cifu for closing remarks.

Douglas Cifu

Analyst · Jefferies. Your line is open

Thank you, everybody, for participation today. I hope my enthusiasm and excitement about the ITG transaction has come through, it sounds like it has. Most important takeaway is that Virtu now is a very broad financial services firm with its core around financial technology, but we are a product firm. Just take a look at Page 5 and 6 and think of everything from pre-trade to post-trade, everything between a natural buyer and a natural seller, Virtu has a client solution for. I thank you very much and we will talk to you soon.

Operator

Operator

Thank you everyone. This will conclude today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.