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VivoSim Labs, Inc. (VIVS)

Q2 2016 Earnings Call· Mon, Nov 9, 2015

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Operator

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Organovo Holdings Fiscal Second Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation there will be an opportunity to ask questions. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference call over to Steve Kunszabo, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Steve Kunszabo

Analyst

Good morning and thank you for joining us. I'd like to welcome you to our fiscal second quarter 2016 earnings call. Joining me on the call this afternoon are CEO, Keith Murphy and our CFO, Barry Michaels. Today's call will begin with a discussion of the 2016 fiscal second quarter results followed by Q&A. I trust you've had an opportunity to review this afternoon's earnings release, which is available on the Investor Relations section of Organovo's website. Before I turn things over to Keith, I'd like to caution all participants that our call this morning may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Forward-looking statements are statements that are not historical fact, and include statements about our future expectations, plans and prospects. Such forward-looking statements are based upon our current beliefs and expectations and are subject to risks which could cause actual results to differ from the forward-looking statements. Such risks are more fully discussed in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Our remarks today should be considered in light of such risk. Any forward-looking statements represent our views only as of today and while we may elect to update forward-looking statements at some point in the future, we specifically disclaim any obligation to do so, even if our expectations or views change. During the call, we'll also be referring to certain supplemental financial measures. These supplemental financial measures are not prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. Please refer to today's earnings release for definition of these supplemental financial measures. With that, let me turn things over to Keith.

Keith Murphy

Analyst

Thanks Steve and good afternoon everyone. I'll start by highlighting that we affirmed our fiscal 2016 and our long-range outlook. Total revenue gained 502% year-over-year with the primary contribution coming service work related to our exVive3D Human Liver Tissue. I'll also point out that our net cash utilization during the second of $9.1 million is consistent with the guidance that we gave in early September. As is always the case, Barry will give you a more detailed review of these financial results. My focus will be on the progress we've made against our key initiatives, including growth in the preclinical safety market, development of our kidney tissue program, building our business development and sales organization and the evolution of the therapeutic space. Before I jump in on these topics, I want to take a step back today. I'd like to outline who we are when you consider the big picture, really describing the pillars that support our long-term growth profile. First, we participate in attractive and growing markets with critical unmet needs. When you consider the development cost and timelines for pharmaceutical discovery, about a decade and $1 billion to develop a single drug, it's clear that pharma is a great customer with significant resources. Major gaps exist in providing powerful predictive data to these customers. We'll help bridge those gaps, when you consider what we can give our pharma customers and partners in terms of toxicity, efficacy and the disease modelling. Similarly, when you observe the constant supply challenges that exist in transplant medicine, it's evident that we have the long-term potential to transform therapeutic applications by creating tissue replacement products for surgical implantation. Second, we benefit from a favorable competitive environment and a first mover advantage. This is a dynamic space that is changing rapidly with companies working…

Barry Michaels

Analyst

Thanks Keith, and good afternoon, everyone. I'll get started by outlining our key financial metrics for the fiscal second quarter and then summarize the full year and long range financial targets, we affirmed today. I'll wrap up my thoughts by briefly reviewing our balance sheet and liquidity profile. Organovo reported fiscal second-quarter total revenue of $0.3 million, which was up 502% from last year's comparable quarter and flat on a sequential basis. Total revenue benefited from a $0.2 million increase in products and services revenue. From an operating viewpoint, we generated products and services revenue of $0.2 million versus zero in the year ago period. Products and services revenue was driven largely by customer contracts for our exVive3D Human Liver Tissue research services. As Keith noted, we're seeing steady gains across the board in the commercial toxicology business as our liver product continues to gain traction. In addition, we reached the functional validation target for our kidney tissue about two months earlier than we forecast and we continue to believe that the pricing and profitability for this solution will merit a premium over competitive in vitro products and services. I'd also like to briefly underscore the importance of our recent licensing agreement with UniQuest. The main technology transfer and commercialization arm of the University of Queensland in Australia. We struck an exclusive worldwide agreement with UniQuest to license intellectual-property covering an in vitro model of human kidney that can be used in a wide array of applications, including toxicology and drug discovery. From a commercial perspective, we believe this deal puts Organovo at the forefront of cutting-edge technology regarding kidney research and while we don't plan to use this work in our proximal kidney product that's slated for release next year, we intend to partner with Professor Melissa Little, the…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Brandon Couillard of Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Brandon Couillard

Analyst

Keith, on the kidney tissue project, in terms of the slightly earlier functional validation milestone, what exactly were the contributing factors to the faster clearance and any chance that that could forward the timeline all the anticipated launch and walk us through sort of what the next steps are between now and I guess, formal commercialization?

Keith Murphy

Analyst

Yeah. Thanks Brandon. I'm happy to do that. So, the factors that go into achieving this a little bit faster are really that our team was able to demonstrate what we needed to see from a scientific perspective to consider this validated a little bit earlier. When we do this kind of thing, there are some risk and timeline risk that you need to take additional experiment steps and do more iterations to get something to that point, and of course, there's always a risk and it's a reasonably substantial risk for something this early that you wouldn't be able to reach that point. So far, I'm happy to report that all the bioprinted tissue that we moved forward have had, I would say surprisingly good results, meaning we've always had positive outcomes as we've developed new tissues, but there's always a risk that something we're developing won't pan out as expected. So here, I would say that the timeline benefit is from the fact that it panned out as expected, which is rewarding when you're thinking back on the year, starting up Organovo and hoping we could get things to this point, seeing it happen again and again tissue after tissue is very rewarding, and it happened with fewer iterations than we planned into the timeline, I think is the key. So we were able to see the results with iteration of cell sourcing and bioprinting that allowed us to be a bit earlier in the timeline. Now moving forward and looking into next year, you asked also, and I think this is an important aspect, does this translate into a faster initiation of commercial contracting? So right now we're tracking to September 2016. Could that be pulled earlier? There's a chance that it could. We're not committing to that today. We constantly look at things like that and I would say, one of the things we're really focused on doing is putting together the biggest and broadest data set possible for that timeframe. So, it's possible that we would actually prefer to spend an additional couple of months of really developing more data and you might think of this earlier time point hit here in October rather than December for today's milestone as giving us the chance to have more data at the time of initiating contracting which gives us a chance to penetrate the market a little bit faster when we do launch, but for now, we're holding to the intended September 2016 lunch timeframe.

Brandon Couillard

Analyst

I'm not sure if Paul is there, but a question on the expanded sales force footprint. Could you give us an update on exactly how many reps are in the field promoting the liver tissue and could you give us a sense of how you think about the productivity per rep sort of at scale, let's say once the product's sort of well seated in the market, after about a year or so, I suppose?

Keith Murphy

Analyst

Yeah, and so we're -- as we stated, we've expanded the commercial team recently. We've expanded with our first rep in Europe for example and we have coverage across the U.S. as well. The total commercial team size is at 7 at this point, and that includes not only reps but technical services folks and these folks are very important to support the reps and provide additional insight to customers on the technology. This is a highly consultative sale. So we need to provide multiple layers of interaction and the R&D team is important in that interaction as well to build out a work plan, but having the size is definitely an increase for us and we're able to push deeper and faster into the market penetration, I think, because of this. It will grow over time. So, we're not done at this point. We do still have some current growth planned and then of course linear growth as we see sales uptick and orders uptick we'll continue to grow to meet that. It's hard to give an exact number in our field for revenue per rep. We have, out of the 7, 4 are reps right now, and there are numbers used as rules of thumb in the space, but we don't know yet how representative those would be of our product. It just remains to be seen a little bit, but people have used numbers of the $1.5 million revenue per rep per year plus or $500,000 on that number. So, it could be higher, could be lower in our space and we'll just have to give you more color when we know.

Brandon Couillard

Analyst

Then last one for Barry, could you give us an update on anticipated CapEx needs for the year?

Barry Michaels

Analyst

Yeah, so in terms of CapEx, Brandon, I think as you may recall, much of our CapEx was spent building out the manufacturing and services space that we brought on board, almost a year ago, right, but building those out to meet our anticipated demand for this. Those were put in place early summer and that really represents a lion's share of our CapEx for this fiscal year. So what -- I guess what I'm saying is what you've seen to date is pretty much what you're going to see for the full year.

Operator

Operator

Our next our next question comes from Caroline Corner of Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead.

Caroline Corner

Analyst

Thank you for providing all of the updates today. Just have a question, kind of following up a question with the sales force reps and productivity. You've previously given us that number, the $1.2 million to $1.4 million for the 2016 fiscal year outlook in terms of revenue recognized from previous bookings. Can you just give us some qualitative detail on how the sales effort is going at that $1.2 million to $1.4 million number, you've been -- you talked about back in June and here we are, a couple of quarters later, can you just give us some qualitative information or examples of how the sales effort is going as far as getting new contracts signed in addition to those already recognized within those bookings that make up the guidance?

Barry Michaels

Analyst

Yeah, absolutely. So, we do continue to grow into this market and so the $1.2 million to $1.4 million that you're citing is as we said today, we do reinforce that guidance, but remember that's the $1.2 million to $1.4 million of the $2 million number we gave earlier. So any contracts that were signed subsequent to that $2 million that can be recognized by March 31, 2016 can be added on top of that, but in terms of that number just to give you some color, if you look at the $1.2 million to $1.4 million guidance which we're standing by and you look at the first half of the year, the previous quarter and this quarter, you'll see that we do expect our revenues -- book revenues to be growing in the second half of year to make up the gap to hit that $1.2 million to $1.4 million. So we do expect to show increasing revenue as a partial demonstration of the ability to grow into this market, and then I think over time you're going to see the impact of these new sales team members as well. So, recall that we're saying that some of these folks are just coming on board very recently and so, remember their efforts as they pan out in the current quarter ending in December, you're going to see book revenue from them no sooner than next June just because of the cycle time to complete the work and then book that revenue. So, it just takes time for these new folks to have impact, but one of the reasons and I think something that you can read into the fact that we are expanding this team is that we are seeing our ability to grow this market and we wouldn't be investing in new sales team members if we weren't starting to max out the capacity of the current ones and we didn't think they could be productive getting in front of new customers and with their ability to tell the technical story. Most of these folks are PhDs. Their ability to tell the story, get in front of those customers and be persistent to get orders, we do expect with these new team members to continue to grow that and continue to grow our revenues in this space.

Caroline Corner

Analyst

Okay, and then, also the SG&A line on the income statement has gone up by $2 million sequentially. You've been adding sales people and building out your team and building out your effort. Can you maybe provide a little bit more granularity as to why that number's gone up $2 million quarter over quarter when the revenues have been flat?

Keith Murphy

Analyst

Yeah sure. I think you've got remember that in the P&L there with the SG&A, some of that is non-cash, stock compensation and things like that. So, even hiring people leads to charges, because we're giving them stock option plans. So just our rate of growth of the team alone, even though they -- the new salaries have only had a short time to have an impact, there are impacts from things like these non-cash. I would also -- I don't know if Barry has color to give you on that but that would be one thing I would draw your attention to Caroline.

Barry Michaels

Analyst

Yeah, we were trying to pull up a specific number here to give it, but we have -- in our annual cycle of when we award options, we do that on an annual basis, except for new hires and so on and so the timing of that is such that as we've expanded our overall employee base, which has basically doubled over the last year in approximate numbers and so on, those annual grants that we're giving they do have the costs associated with them and so on were just granted in this last quarter.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instruction] Our next question comes from Ted Tenthoff of Piper Jaffray. Please go ahead.

Benjamin Adler

Analyst

This is actually Ben in for Ted. Thanks for taking the question. I had a quick question on, I guess, you mentioned before, this is a very consultative process, so how long does it take your sales reps to sort of close the sale and do you think it's getting shorter as companies see their peers signing on with you?

Keith Murphy

Analyst

Yeah, that's a very good question. I wouldn't say that it's gotten shorter because there's an excessive amount of peer referencing yet Ben, and the reason for that is just because we're still in the early days of market penetration. I definitely predict that if we're successful in getting to the adoption levels we want that that's an exponentially increasing thing. So, it's early days and I think when people see others starting to use it, it is the influential, but we're not yet at a critical mass where it's broadly influential to peer referencing. I would say that what is much more influential and we're starting to see uptick because of is the data that we talked about. So, to be very specific, the fibrosis data that we talked about from the Hamner Institute, that's only been out for about three months now, we're seeing that to be a powerful mover in the market. So, it's a wakeup call for some customers who didn't really have enough data previously to convince them but this data since it's so unique, this fibrosis model, there's just nothing that's able to be achieved before that compares to this, is proving quite influential with folks who are trying to get their heads around why our model is superior. They can see the fibrosis pattern in the tissue and we show them microscope images. They can see from the gene expression profiles that the data that's being generated in fibrosis in this model looks like what you would expect it to be in the human and that really drives some acceptance. So, I think that's really what's driving a little bit more acceptance. Timelines, because you asked about the number -- let's talk about it, the number of months for people to do it. What we've said in the past is that, it's four to six months from the time we start a conversation with someone to when they'll sign a contract. I don't think we'll change that yet. I think we're sticking right around in that range. Some people are quicker. Some people are slower, but that's a good median, is around five months plus or minus, and then remember, after that there's a four to five month timeline for an average normal size contract to be completed. With some larger contracts, it could take quite a bit longer to complete multiple stages.

Operator

Operator

This concludes our question and answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to Keith Murphy, CEO for any closing remarks.

Keith Murphy

Analyst

Thank you very much. I'd like to thank everyone. Thank Steve Kunszabo and Barry Michaels for their participation in the call and our preparations today. I want to thank all of the investors for joining us and thank analysts for the questions. Please feel free to reach out to us for any additional questions as they come up and we look forward to the February call and engaging with you more. Thank you, take care.

Operator

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect your lines. Have a great day.