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Vanda Pharmaceuticals Inc. (VNDA)

Q3 2025 Earnings Call· Wed, Oct 29, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Hello, and thank you for standing by. My name is Mark, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Q3 2025 Vanda Pharmaceuticals Inc. earnings conference call. [Operator Instructions] Now I would like to turn the call over to Kevin Moran, Vanda's Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead.

Kevin Moran

Analyst

Thank you, Mark. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us to discuss Vanda Pharmaceuticals' third quarter 2025 performance. Our third quarter 2025 results were released this afternoon and are available on the SEC's EDGAR system and on our website, www.vandapharma.com. In addition, we are providing live and archived versions of this conference call on our website. Joining me on today's call is Dr. Mihael Polymeropoulos, our President, Chief Executive Officer, and Chairman of the Board; and Tim Williams, our General Counsel. Following my introductory remarks, Mihael will update you on our ongoing activities. I will then comment on our financial results before we open the lines for your questions. Before we proceed, I would like to remind everyone that various statements that we make on this call will be forward-looking statements within the meaning of federal securities laws. Our forward-looking statements are based upon current expectations and assumptions that involve risks, changes in circumstances and uncertainties. These risks are described in the cautionary note regarding forward-looking statements, risk factors, and management's discussion and analysis of financial condition and results of operations sections of our most recent annual report on Form 10-K as updated by our subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q, current reports on Form 8-K, and other filings with the SEC, which are available on the SEC's EDGAR system and on our website. We encourage all investors to read these reports and our other filings. The information we provide on this call is provided only as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update or revise publicly any forward-looking statements we may make on this call on account of new information, future events, or otherwise, except as required by law. With that said, I would now like to turn the call over to our CEO, Dr. Mihael Polymeropoulos.

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst

Thank you very much, Kevin, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us to discuss Vanda's Third Quarter 2025 Results. This quarter reflects strong commercial execution with total net product sales reaching $56.3 million, up 18% year-over-year, led by a 31% increase in Fanapt sales and 35% growth in prescriptions. HETLIOZ continues to deliver stable performance with $18 million in Q3 sales. We are particularly encouraged by our advancing pipeline, with multiple near-term regulatory milestones. The tradipitant NDA for motion sickness under FDA review with a PDUFA target action date of December 30, 2025; the Bysanti NDA for bipolar I disorder and schizophrenia, also under FDA review with a PDUFA target action date of February 21, 2026; and the anticipated Q4 submission of the imsidolimab BLA for generalized pustular psoriasis. We're also investing strategically in our commercial infrastructure, including increased brand visibility through targeted sponsorships with the goal of supporting long-term market leadership and future commercial launches. We believe that these milestones, combined with our collaborative framework with the FDA will position Vanda for sustained growth and expanded therapeutic impact in 2026 and beyond. On commercial updates. During the third quarter, our Fanapt sales force further expanded their efforts, and we continued our broad awareness campaign. Fanapt revenue increased by 31% compared to the same period in the prior year, driven by the launch of the bipolar I indication. Fanapt is now promoted in the U.S. across all 50 states with a dedicated sales force of approximately 300 representatives. With the expansion of the sales force that was largely completed during the second quarter, we observed a significant increase in activity with the total number of calls growing by more than 20% as compared to the second quarter of 2025 and growing by over 100% compared to Q3 of…

Kevin Moran

Analyst

Thank you, Mihael. I'll begin by summarizing our financial results for the first 9 months of 2025 before turning to discuss the third quarter of 2025. Total revenues for the first 9 months of 2025 were $158.9 million, a 9% increase compared to $145.6 million for the same period in 2024. The increase was primarily due to growth in Fanapt revenue as a result of the bipolar commercial launch. Fanapt net product sales were $84.1 million for the first 9 months of 2025, a 24% increase compared to $67.6 million in the same period in 2024. This increase to net product sales relative to the first 9 months of 2024 was attributable to an increase in volume, partially offset by a decrease in price net of deductions. Turning to HETLIOZ. HETLIOZ net product sales were $55 million for the first 9 months of 2025, a 3% decrease compared to $56.6 million in the same period in 2024. The decrease in net product sales relative to the first 9 months of 2024 was attributable to a decrease in volume. Of note, through the third quarter of 2025, HETLIOZ continues to retain the majority of market share despite generic competition for now over 2.5 years. And finally, turning to PONVORY. PONVORY net product sales were $19.8 million for the first 9 months of 2025, a 7% decrease compared to $21.3 million in the same period in 2024. The decrease in net product sales relative to the first 9 months of 2024 was attributable to a decrease in price net of deductions. For the first 9 months of 2025, Vanda recorded a net loss of $79.3 million compared to a net loss of $14 million for the same period in 2024. The net loss for the first 9 months of 2025 included an…

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst

Thank you very much, Kevin. At this point, we will be happy to answer your questions.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from the line of Raghuram Selvaraju with H.C. Wainwright.

Raghuram Selvaraju

Analyst

I was wondering if you could first and foremost comment on some hypothetical scenarios with respect to the interactions with the FDA. And if these ultimately result in approval decisions, particularly as this pertains to tradipitant, when those approvals might occur? Should we expect potential -- the possibility of tradipitant approval sometime in the first half of 2026, if ultimately the interactions with the FDA proceed positively?

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst

Yes. Thank you very much, Ram. First of all, I would say and I reiterate that we're very pleased with the new collaborative framework that has been established with the FDA. And just as a background, that comes after the significant development of a win in the appellate court by Vanda in August of this year, where we challenged the decision of rejection of HETLIOZ for jet lag without a hearing. And the court canceled the rejection by the FDA and sent it back to the FDA for further proceedings. This was one of the precipitating factors alongside with the new management at the FDA, where we sat down with them to develop a path forward. And we're very quickly able to agree on several initial steps. And the first one, as we mentioned, is the rereview of the HETLIOZ sNDA for jet lag and a promise to be completed by early January of 2026. On your question on tradipitant, tradipitant review is ongoing. And we expect the decision by December 30, 2026. The reason we are optimistic is that so far there have been no issues raised with the efficacy of the drug. And therefore, we are encouraged that this could lead to approval. One area that's very relevant with the collaborative framework to tradipitant is the reconsideration of the partial clinical hold. And to give context, this is a clinical hold on a longer-term motion sickness study. The initial study lasted 12 months and people could take up to 90 doses. We asked for an extension of that study with an amendment to further study tradipitant for an additional 12 months and an additional 90 dose within that period. And that is when, about a year ago or so, the FDA objected to that additional extension, suggesting that an additional long-term 6-month dog toxicity study is needed. And of course, we have contested that. But now the FDA was willing to reconsider that decision, and that is now with CDER with a promise to issue a decision by end of November. So with that, if cleared, alongside what is almost agreed upon, I would say, efficacy demonstrated for tradipitant motion sickness, we'll be optimistic for an approval by end of this year.

Raghuram Selvaraju

Analyst

Secondly, I wanted to ask about PONVORY performance and what you look for in terms of future quarterly growth rate pickup in revenue from this product, particularly given the current investment that you are making in sales and marketing behind the product at this point. Maybe you can give us a sense of what kind of quarterly growth you would expect in terms of net sales for PONVORI over the course of the next 2, 3 quarters? That would be helpful.

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst

Yes. I will let Kevin comment on the future growth. But I would say, we're still in the early phase. The sales force that was built to about 50 people is actually a very recent event, in the last quarter or so, fully staffed. The speaker programs are just starting. And PONVORY has been a smaller piece of our direct-to-consumer campaign so far. That being said, these are significant investments, and we're investing towards future growth. But I will pass it on to Kevin for his comment.

Kevin Moran

Analyst

Thanks, Mihael. Thanks, Ram, for the question. Just as a bit of reminder on the background here. So we acquired the product from J&J at the end of 2023. And at that point, J&J had ceased support for the product a little over a year prior to that. We completed the transition of the PONVORY product from J&J right at the end of the third quarter of last year, so about a year ago. And what we saw during that period from when J&J ceased commercial support through the first quarter of this year was a decline in the underlying patient demand. And that would be expected given that there wasn't any active support in the market from essentially the end of 2022 through roughly the end of the third quarter of last year. What we've seen in the last 2 quarters that's very encouraging to us is we've seen increases in the underlying patient demand, both from the first quarter to the second quarter and then again from the second quarter to the third quarter. There's been some buying patterns from the SPs and SDs that have made the quarterly revenue a little bit up or a little bit down depending on the timing of their purchases, but the underlying demand during those 2 periods is up. And so for us, that's an encouraging sign that our commercial strategy and support for the product is beginning to take hold. And as Mihael had mentioned, with the recent investment in the commercial sales force that, as I mentioned in my script, was completed during the third quarter of this year, we're hopeful that we'll begin to see that trend continue and potentially increase as we exit this year and head into next year, where we not yet have provided guidance beyond 2025.

Raghuram Selvaraju

Analyst

And then just very quickly, 2 other time line aspects. I was wondering if you could, A, comment on the perspectives for the imsidolimab BLA to receive priority review once it has been submitted to the FDA? And secondly, if you could give us any sense of whether you have revised or more specific timing guidance to provide on the MDD study?

Kevin Moran

Analyst

So Ram, I think your 2 questions were on the imsidolimab priority review.

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst

Yes. I will address that. But go ahead, Kevin.

Kevin Moran

Analyst

And then on the timing for the MDD study, Ram, so maybe I'll take that one second, is what we communicated at this point is that we expect results by the end of next year. But given that we've enrolled patients over the last few quarters, we'd like to see a bit more of kind of a run rate before we provide an exact timing on what period we expect to see the results in. But at this point, we've communicated results by the end of next year and hope to be able to share more as we get a few more quarters under our belt.

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst

Yes, that's right. And sites are coming up in the U.S., but also very recently, we got approval for initiation for a number of sites in Europe. So hopefully, that will accelerate recruitment. Regarding imsidolimab, of course, this is a rare or orphan disorder, and we expect a 6-month priority review.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Olivia Brayer with Cantor.

Olivia Brayer

Analyst · Cantor.

Can you talk a little bit about the guidance change this quarter? I mean at the midpoint, it still implies growth for 4Q, but at the lower end of the range, it wouldn't necessarily. So maybe just thoughts around the pushes and pulls of that guidance change and what you're seeing so far into October that helped inform today's update? And then I've got a couple of questions on Bysanti.

Kevin Moran

Analyst · Cantor.

Yes, absolutely. Thanks, Olivia, for the question. So a couple of pieces there. And one thing that I commented on in my script was that underlying the guidance for this year is strong Fanapt revenue growth for the year, right, which is, I think, an underpinning of our guidance. But the other thing that's a variable in that consideration is the HETLIOZ revenue, which we've commented on, can be very variable from quarter-to-quarter depending on the timing of our customers' purchases. So what we see there is that the actual underlying demand for HETLIOZ is pretty consistent. As we've mentioned, we maintain the majority of the market share still at this point, even 2.5 years post generic launch. But the actual buying patterns, which translate to the revenue patterns for HETLIOZ can vary from quarter-to-quarter. And if we saw customers not need to buy as much in the fourth quarter, that could put us on the lower end of the revenue range. So that's kind of the dynamic there. But for Fanapt, what we've seen in the last 2 quarters is both revenue meaningful growth in both quarters and the underlying demand, which we're highly focused on, right, from a quarter-to-quarter perspective, growing sequentially very strong. So we saw 14% growth Q1 to Q2 and 11% growth Q2 to Q3 from a script perspective. And so we expect to see that continue to grow in Q4 to increase relative to Q3 would be our expectation underlying that guidance.

Olivia Brayer

Analyst · Cantor.

Super helpful, Kevin. And then is there anything you guys can tell us at this point around just the engagement that you're having with the FDA for your ongoing Bysanti review? Have they indicated wanting to see any additional information as part of your submission package? And anything you can tell us on when you might enter into label discussions for that asset? And then just kind of as a -- I know there's a couple of questions in there, but as a follow-up on the commercial side, as you look out to your PDUFA next year, what's the commercial strategy for actually convincing patients to switch from Fanapt over to this newer product? Is there a commercial hook or an incentive that would actually incentivize patients to make the switch before a generic version of Fanapt becomes available?

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst · Cantor.

Maybe I'll start off with the regulatory update, and I'll let Kevin comment on the commercial strategy. The -- I think we have given an update that so far, the interactions with the division have been quite positive in that there have been no issues raised on the efficacy and the safety of the drug. So that is progressing well. Now in terms of label negotiations, we don't comment if they have started or about to start. But typically, those will precede the PDUFA date by a couple of months or so.

Kevin Moran

Analyst · Cantor.

Yes. And then, Olivia, on the commercial strategy, we haven't shared, I would say, some key elements of our commercial strategy for Bysanti and the potential transition for Fanapt to Bysanti. But what I would tell you is, as we've talked about in the past, the atypical antipsychotic class is both a highly promotionally sensitive class and also a high switch class. So products that are actively promoted out there, as you know, will do significantly better than products that are not actively promoted. And as part of that, with it being a high switch class, if there are certain commercial tools that are available to prescribers, namely starter packs or titration packs in our case, or commercial co-pay programs, if those programs are available to patients that are starting, they'd be more likely to start on a product that offers those programs versus a product that doesn't. So I think both the nature of the class being highly promotionally sensitive and the potential support that could be available for patients, I think will lead to meaningful success on Bysanti when we decide to pull that trigger.

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst · Cantor.

And I will add, Olivia, that the longer commercial plan is the addition of indications starting with the adjunct treatment of major depression with actually a key differentiator of how Fanapt has been used so far with a once-a-day dosing, increasing the convenience and hopefully compliance.

Operator

Operator

And your next question comes from the line of Andrew Tsai with Jefferies.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst · Jefferies.

On the quarter. This is [ Matt Marcus ] on for Andrew Tsai. First off, for tradipitant in motion sickness, it could be approved on December 30, and then HETLIOZ jet lag could be approved January 7. What would your marketing strategy be for these? And what would the shape of the launch curve look like for these drugs?

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst · Jefferies.

Yes. Thank you. We're actually very excited for both of these potential approvals because they share in common the consumer-centric focus, both in HETLIOZ in jet lag and tradipitant for motion sickness. We're developing a quite elaborate strategy that will become very consumer-centric, focusing on concierge service for supplying the drug to both of them. And our recent experiences with direct-to-consumer campaigns, but also the elevation of brand awareness of the company are going to be very important and have been strategically designed to be in place in advance of those launches. We expect if both of them approved in that time frame you mentioned, that we should be able to be in the market by the first half of 2026. And in subsequent interactions, we can discuss a little more about the latest on the total addressable market for both indications. But I will highlight, it is significant and expanded, both of increased travel, but also the unmet need in motion sickness that has not seen a treatment -- a new treatment in the last 45 years.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst · Jefferies.

And then for your GLP vomiting study, can you describe that study? Like what does the positive efficacy data look like? And what would be the next steps for the program? And then similarly, for Bysanti, should have like Phase III data in 2026. What kind of measures to efficacy separation do you hope to achieve in that study?

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst · Jefferies.

Yes. So I will start with the last question. On MDD, like any other study, there is not a threshold of response. We are looking for a positive primary endpoint on the typical clinical scales that will be used. And of course, subsequently, people are doing a responder analysis, trying to identify a portion of patients responding to a certain effect. But there is no threshold that is required. But of course, the study is powered to detect a significant minimal threshold of efficacy. Your other question was on the use of tradipitant in preventing the GI, specifically vomiting side effects of Wegovy, semaglutide. And we know that GLP-1 analogs have to be titrated slowly because of the very frequent nausea and vomiting side effects, which actually limits the efficacy at least for a certain period of time. And for a number of patients, around 15% or so, may actually drop out of treatment and obviously the benefit of GLP-1 analogs. So this is a well understood and very significant therapeutic issue. The study we have designed, administers tradipitant for a few days prior to initiating a Wegovy injection, which is administered at a much higher dose than the recommended titration dose. Titration dose begins at 0.25 milligrams and escalates in 4-week increments. The dose we're using in the study is 1 milligram. And patients are randomized to receive either Wegovy or placebo. And what we do is we follow these people and measure the efficacy with the number of vomiting episodes and other secondary endpoints like nausea, duration of nausea, et cetera. And as I said, this study has completed now. The sites and data are being monitored and data clean, and we hope soon to be able to analyze the top line results.

Operator

Operator

That concludes our question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back over to the management for closing remarks.

Mihael Polymeropoulos

Analyst

Thank you very much for joining this call. We'll see you at a later time.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today's call. You may now disconnect.