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VNET Group, Inc. (VNET)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, May 15, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning and good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you, and welcome to 21Vianet Group's First Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. With us today are Mr. Alvin Wang, Chief Executive Officer and President; Ms. Sharon Liu, Chief Financial Officer; and Ms. Rene Jiang, Investor Relations Director of the company.Now I'll turn the call over to the first speaker today, Ms. Rene Jiang, IR Director of 21Vianet. Please go ahead, ma'am.

Rene Jiang

Management

Hello, everyone. Welcome to our first quarter 2020 earnings call. Before we start, please note that this call may contain forward-looking statements made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions for the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current expectations and observations that involve known and unknown risks, uncertainties, and other factors not under the company's control, which may cause actual results, performance or achievements of the company to be materially different from the results, performance or expectations implied by these forward-looking statements. All forward-looking statements are expressly qualified in their entirety by the cautionary statements, risk factors, and details of the company's filings with the SEC. 21Vianet undertakes no duty to revise or update any forward-looking statements for selected events or circumstances after the date of this conference call.I will now turn the call over to Mr. Alvin Wang, CEO and President of 21Vianet.

Alvin Wang

Management

Thank you, Rene. Good morning and good evening, everyone. Thank you for joining us on our earnings call today. First and foremost, all of us here at VNET hope that you and your loved ones are staying safe and healthy.So, post-IDC industry and our company continues to grow in the periods, we were acutely aware of the pandemic toll on society. Even so, we also saw some of the best in humanity as medical workers, grocery store workers, police officers and our own employees came together in support of their communities. On behalf of the company, I would like to say a special thank you to all those fighting against the virus on the front lines. So this continue to be a source of inspiration. We are all truly grateful.In the first quarter of 2020, we grew our revenues to RBM1.091 billion, and our adjusted to EBITDA RMB259 million, meeting both of our previous guidance ranges. Meanwhile, EBITDA margin declined to 23.8% due to our continuous expansion of IDC capacity. During the quarter, we added over 3,300 cabinets to our locations in Shanghai and Jiangsu provinces, which brought our total cabinet capacity to 39,646 by quarter-end. This strong performance was the product of our effective execution during the crisis which enabled us to maintain our construction and cabinets delivery schedules.In regards of market conditions, China's IDC industry continues to grow at a good pace in the first quarter despite the uncertainty brought about by the outbreak of COVID-19. While the pandemic has caused a momentary pause in construction, social distancing policies around the country have begun loosening in the second quarter, and the multiple IDC services remains strong. Furthermore, our IDC - our data centers are increasingly recognized as an important component of China Digital transformation, the government had to…

Sharon Liu

Management

Thank you, Alvin and hello, everyone. Before we start our detailed financial discussion, please note that we will present non-GAAP matters today. Our non-GAAP results exclude certain non-cash expenses which are not part of our core operations. The details of these expenses may be found in the reconciliation tables included in our press release. Please note that all of the financial numbers we are presenting today are in RMB terms and that percentage changes are on a year-over-year basis unless otherwise stated.In an uncertain macro environment, we concluded the first quarter with strong financial results, improved our operating efficiency and kept our construction and cabinet delivery schedules on-track. Notably, in the first quarter, other revenue reached the high-end of our previous guidance range while our adjusted EBITDA was around the mid-point of our previous range. Revenue in the first quarter increased by 25.1% to RMB1.09 billion from RMB871.9 million in the same period of 2019; such growth was mainly due to the industry's healthy trajectory, which is being driven by the ongoing trend of corporate digitalization across China. It was also partially due to an uptake in IDC demand from retail customers resulting from certain industry tailwinds that emerged during the pandemic.Retail IDC MR per cabinet in the first quarter decreased slightly to 8,747 from 8,788 in the same period of 2019. We net added 3,355 cabinets during the first quarter of 2020. As of March 31, 2020, we operated and managed 39,646 cabinets, compound utilization rate in the first quarter was 60.4% compared to 65.6% in the first quarter of 2019 which was mainly due to our continued delivery of additional cabinets in the period. More specifically, our utilization rate for those mature IDC delivered prior to 2019 improved to 72.3% in the first quarter of 2020 compared to…

Operator

Operator

Thank you very much. Ladies and gentlemen, we'll now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first telephone question is from Edison Lee from Jeffries, Hong Kong. Please ask your question, Edison.

Edison Lee

Analyst

Hi, good morning, Alvin and Sharon. Thank you very much for taking my questions. So first of all, congratulations on a very strong revenue growth in first quarter. I have two questions. Number one is, I would like to know because one of your peers actually told investors that power cost was actually a little bit lower than expected in the first quarter owning to some government support policy. So, I would like to see whether VNET also saw something like that? And would you expect some work up on policy on power costs in the rest of the year can emerge to actually help lower the cost for you guys? So that's question number one.Question number two is that, I would like to just clarify as to your capacity growth in the first quarter, the 3,300 cabinets; whether it includes any wholesale in that number? And if it does, how much is that? Thank you.

Sharon Liu

Management

Thank you, Edison. I will take your question on the capacity, as well as the power cost. Actually, other power costs represent around 15% to 18% of our total revenue in our IDC business. We see that power cost is stable during Q1. Of course, for government's policy; when the data center matures, we can apply for the reduce of the power capacity commitment. That will help us to reduce the power costs but the amount is not so significant.Regarding to your questions related to our capacity delivered in Q1, actually we have delivered two data centers. One is the wholesale data centers in Jiangsu campus, so it's around 1,000 high power density cabinet. So company will start to recognize wholesale revenue and EBITDA from Q2. Thank you.

Alvin Wang

Management

This is Alvin. I will add few words regarding your first question. Actually, we do see some favorable policy from government regarding to optimize our power cost. But it's - that policy will be temporary, we'll adjust for a few months and will apply to some of our data center across our data center network. So the impact is positive, but it will be temporary and it will be marginal impact. Thank you.

Edison Lee

Analyst

If I can ask a follow-up on the power cost. How much of your power arrangement is actually based on direct power purchase?

Sharon Liu

Management

Hi, welcome. Almost all the power purchase from the government.

Alvin Wang

Management

The state rate from north, from south, it's state rates.

Edison Lee

Analyst

Okay, that's fine. Thank you very much.

Alvin Wang

Management

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Next telephone question is from Yang Liu from Morgan Stanley. Please ask your question.

Yang Liu

Analyst

Thank you for the opportunity to ask questions. I have two questions. The first one; management mentioned that you signed two MOUs with internet company. Could you please share more detail on that; on size or data public cloud or is it customer or - yes, what was this vertical, particularly? Is it a wholesale or retail customer?The second one is - could management share your thoughts on the public rates policy issued by CSRC and NDRC? And what is Venus plan to leverage with that kind of rates policy in future? Thank you.

Alvin Wang

Management

Okay, thank you Liu Yang for your questions. I will address your first question. That - as you mentioned that we already signed two MOU with leading Chinese internet player which is our existing customer already. These two projects are wholesale projects, and also that we expected the first project will deliver within this year, and the second will deliver in different phases in the second year, and in the following years. And actually, it's two projects; quite another milestone for us to enhance our cooperation with leading customers, especially from wholesale side. And acknowledge if we combine all the MOU together with wholesale customers, we have accumulated 19 megawatts contracts already. Thank you.

Sharon Liu

Management

Hi, Yang. Regarding to your question on public rates; we noticed that on April 13 NDRC and CSRC joint announced the pilot program on the infrastructure related public rates. As the Chinese government has included data centers in their new infrastructure scope, mature data center assets generating stable cash flows are the suitable assets for these rates. According to resources we talked to, the issuer should have the ownership of the IDC land and property, and the government likes diversifying customer base in the data center. To [indiscernible], we have qualified data center SS for public rates, and we believe this is so via alternative funding channel for other material data centers. We'll keep continue to focus on the progress because the document announced is only a consultation version while we'll wait for the final version and more clear policy. Thank you.

Yang Liu

Analyst

Thank you

Operator

Operator

Our next telephone question is from Tina Hal [ph] from Goldman Sachs. Please ask a question, Tina.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, thank you very much management for your time. I have two questions. The first one is that, so far have you seen any supportive policies coming out from government on data center as the new infrastructure area? Has there been any new capacities coming into the market either in Tier 1 places or the Tier 1 adjacent markets such Jiangsu? And related to that, have you seen the competition bring up to some extent? And is it getting easier or more difficult to acquire the land and electricity resources? So that's number one.And in terms of the second question, also under MOU that you signed recently with a wholesale customer; could you share more details on what kind of size - and then, specifically which quarter of the year can you see the MOUs to start generate revenues? Thank you.

Alvin Wang

Management

Thank you, Tina, for your questions. Regarding your first question, there is very strong support from the government regarding the data center in China. We do see that local authorities from different provinces have issued policies to support or to encourage more investments in data center and so called new infrastructure for the country. And I really expect that including ourselves that we can get some more kind of land and property and also power supply for high tier data center or data center campus in different locations. And at the same time I will say that we see this is a very competitive market landscape, it requires very strong customer relationship and also it requires strong on your confidence, especially with your engineering, technology, capital, and of course, cost control etcetera. So, we do see that we have a positioned ourselves very well in the coming years to acquire more resources to serve our customer with their increasing demand.Regarding your second question, as I mentioned before that we signed with our existing customers and released two wholesale products, very typical projects, always leading customers, and also the one is in Beijing actually, as we expect it to be delivered as early Q3 this year and also the second, that another even bigger one will be in the central part of China, and that delivery will be the second quarter of next year and also it will be - have expansion in the foreign cultures. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next telephone question is from Jen-Yang Chen [ph] from CICC. Please ask your question.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hi, management. This is [indiscernible]. Thank you for taking my question. I have two questions. First one is about our future expansion plans. We noticed that Shanghai government has announced to increase another 16,000 rep quota. And would we have any adjustments accordingly on our agency portfolio expansion? And how do we expect any other supporting policies in the future? And my second question is about our customers from the cloud computing. And we noticed that cloud computing has very strong demands on the IDC industry. And for example, Baba [ph] has announced about RMB200 billion investment. And how do we adjust our future strategies accordingly to meet the hyper field customer demands? Thank you.

Alvin Wang

Management

Jen-Yang thank you for your questions. Regarding your first question, that’s a way to do - to notice that restaurant supporting policy from different local governments, and then, especially Shanghai that has very clear announcements already. And actually, it's a way to predict - way to prioritize Shanghai as one of our top markets, and we do have big projects there in the pipeline to apply power culture in the next batch of approval, and we expect the approval process will be completed in the coming quarters. And we are confident that we can get the strong support from the local authority based on our very strong experience and very strong capacity plan in Shanghai as well. And also that we - at the same time that we respect our capacity, not only in Shanghai but also in several cities across to Shanghai as well. We do have a Jiangsu campus, one and two, and we expect we will have further expansion in the surrounding area as well.And then, regarding your second question for the cloud computing, we do see that a strong demand from cloud customers already in the first quarter, and we have very strong engagements with all the leading ones, namely Ali, Tencent, Huawei, Kimso [ph] and Jingdong as well. So we expected - so we will increase our cooperation with all these leading public cloud players, and the public clouds will present a very big cost driver for our business in the coming years. Thank you.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Our next telephone question is from Jon Atkin from RBC. Please ask your question, Jon.

Jonathan Atkin

Analyst

Thank you and good morning. I wanted to ask a question about the evolution of cloud demand; public cloud and any trends that you can talk about with respect to enterprise migration from co-location to public cloud, hybrid cloud deployments? And is there anything that you're noticing in your business or more broadly, with respect to cloud migration or hybrid cloud adoption? Thank you.

Alvin Wang

Management

Thank you, Jon for your question; it's a very broad question and most asked [ph] question. We do see why we have strong business demands from public clouds customers. And I've seen hundreds - we see that many of them have very huge plan, which means that in the coming years that public clouds will have very strong demands for IDC custom players, including us. And at the same time we also see some of our own IDC customers, they have strong demands on hyper clouds which means that they - along their departments, they will deploy their abilities not only on the public clouds but also on the hosting as well. And based on our very close cooperation with popular public cloud players, we can provide the cutting-edge and also very competitive hyper cloud solutions to customers. We see that as one of our major competitive advantage compared to other players. Thank you.

Jonathan Atkin

Analyst

Thank you.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] There are no further questions at this time. I'd like to hand the call back to the speakers for closing remarks. Please go ahead.

Rene Jiang

Management

Thank you again, for joining us today. If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact the company's IR. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the call for today. You may all disconnect. Have a great day. Bye.