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Vishay Precision Group, Inc. (VPG)

Q4 2013 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 12, 2014

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Operator

Operator

Good day, and welcome to the Vishay Precision Group Fourth Quarter Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. All participants will be in listen-only mode. (Operator Instructions) After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. (Operator Instructions). Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Wendy Wilson, Investor Relations. Ms. Wilson the floor is yours ma’am.

Wendy Wilson

Investor Relations

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining our call. I just to want to remind you that the content of this conference call is owned by Vishay Precision Group and is protected by U.S. and International Copyright Law. You may not make any recordings or other copies of this conference call, and you may not reproduce, distribute, adapt, transmit, display or perform the contents of this conference call in whole or in part without our written permission of VPG. Today’s remarks are governed by the Safe Harbor provisions of the 1995 Private Securities Litigation Reform Act. Actual results may turn out significantly better or worse than indicated by any forward-looking statements that we have made today. For a more complete discussion of the risks associated with the operations of Vishay Precision Group, please refer to our SEC filings, especially the Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2012 and our other recent SEC filings. And now, it’s my pleasure to introduce the host for today’s call, Ziv Shoshani, CEO and President and Bill Clancy, CFO. Bill?

William M. Clancy

Management

Thank you Wendy. Good morning everyone, and thank you for joining us on our call today. I would like to start by reviewing some fourth quarter highlights and then summarizing the financials. Following that, Ziv will provide his view of the year. Overall, I would say, the fourth quarter was a good one and the full-year results ended on an uptick. Net revenues were up 22% year-over-year for the fourth quarter and up 10.4% for the fiscal year. Fourth quarter consolidated adjusted gross margin was 37.8% as compared to 34.4% for the fourth quarter of 2012. The cash generated from operations was $8.4 million and free cash flow was $5.6 million respectively for the fourth quarter of 2013. Our consolidated book-to-bill of 1.04 shows that market demand continues to be stable. For those reasons, we are setting our first quarter guidance in a range of $59 million to $64 million due to factors that Ziv will review later on the call. For a brief review of the financial results, let’s start at the top. For the fourth quarter we reported revenues of $62.2 million, a 22% increase from $51.0 million for the prior year period. An updated valuation report for the KELK acquisition resulted in the company recording fair market value adjustments, associated with purchase accounting that include approximately 454,000 of KELK acquisition purchase accounting adjustments, which impacted the cost of goods sold, $42,000 of acquisition cost and $51,000 of restructuring which effected comparability. For the 2013 full-year, the adjustments included approximately $4.9 million of KELK acquisition purchase accounting adjustments, which impacted the cost of goods sold, $794,000 of acquisition costs and $538,000 of restructuring costs, which affect comparability. The consolidated adjusted gross margin for the fourth quarter increased to 37.8% compared to 34.4% for the fourth quarter of 2012…

Ziv Shoshani

CEO

Thank you, Bill. Despite the weak start to 2013 from a macroeconomic perspective, we see continued improvement, which is supported by positive industrial production index in the U.S., Europe and Japan. Additionally, PMI indicators show that expansion had continued in Q4 with particular strength in the Eurozone and Japan. According to the World Steel Association, global steel output for 2013 increased by 3.5% from 2012. China is up 7.5%, showing some improvement from 2012, globally mill utilization declined to around 74%, down from 79% in the third quarter and up from 72% from last year. Capacity utilization has decreased in the second half of 2013, which could indicate a softening outlook. Based on the above mentioned indicators we project a slower market demand for our steel market product. Moving onto operational trends, let’s start by comparing consolidated year-over-year and sequential results. The company’s overall book-to-bill was 1.0 in the fourth quarter of 2013, compared to 0.96 last year and 1.01 in the third quarter of 2013. Without the effect of the KELK business, the book-to-bill was 1.04 in the quarter, which is consistent with the third quarter. We believe excluding KELK from this ratio is relevant, because KELK operates in a project type business model. Beginning in our next quarter’s results, we will report only the company’s combined book-to-bill ratio as KELK is now consolidated into our results. Total orders for the fourth quarter were 62.4 million up by 27.2% from 49 million last year and up 6.9% from the third quarter of 2013. The year-over-year increase is across all regions and reporting segments with 50% of the increase coming from KELK. Some details on our reporting segments. The FTP segment had a book-to-bill ratio of 1.07 for the fourth quarter of 2013, compared to 0.96 for the fourth quarter…

Operator

Operator

Thank you, sir. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions). Our first question comes from John Franzreb of Sidoti & Company. Please go ahead. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Co. LLC: Good morning everybody.

Ziv Shoshani

CEO

Good morning.

William M. Clancy

Management

Good morning, John. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Co. LLC: It sounds to me that the FTP business has been seasonally strong book-to-bill ratio of 1.07. Could you just talk a little bit about what’s driving that demand in FTP?

Ziv Shoshani

CEO

The demand in the FTP is driven by the European and U.S. economy. We are looking at few different segments. First, if you look at the sub-segment in Europe, we have seen an increase of; I will say 8% versus prior quarter in orders, while in Europe also around 10%. The main increase is coming, that the FTP is coming from distribution on the digital side, but being driven by AMS market sectors and test and measurements as well as end user business for stress analysis for the gauges also coming from Europe and United States. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Co. LLC: Great. And in Force Sensors, I realized you’ll be trying to migrate more of your customer base or your sales base to an OEM type sale. Could you talk a little bit about how Force Sensors maybe finished the year or the quarter, whichever date you may have, so how much of that is an OEM customer now and what your expectations are and continue into migrate that sales mix?

Ziv Shoshani

CEO

As you may know the intention was to move to a design-in win type of concept, driven by OEM customers. Due to the fairly length product design cycle at OEM, it takes I would say between 18 to 24 months, it takes time to create this momentum. At this point in time, the ratio between OEM and generic product is around 30% and this ratio still at large for Q4. Moving to next year, we see that we believe that the OEM will take a higher share, the target would be 335, hopefully maybe 40% of the total revenues depending on the macroeconomic environment, which will drive our customers to release their new platforms. The OEM customer base is mainly in Europe and in North America. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Co. LLC: Got it, got it. And it seems to be that the KELK is really weighing on results in Weighing and Control. And you’ve pointed out that moderate space in the steel market, I was wondering if you have a sense of when you expect that business to turn around or is it just going to be easier comps year-over-year. Can you give a sense of what your feel is for KELK going forward?

Ziv Shoshani

CEO

Okay. John, as we said, excluding KELK, we did see an increase of 25% in our own coal business. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Co. LLC: Right.

Ziv Shoshani

CEO

In the WCS, regarding the dynamics in the steel market, there are different – there are different, I would say views on that. The fact that Asia is still in an overcapacity situation in many Asian companies; mainly Chinese are losing money at today’s crude steel prices. Nevertheless U.S and Europe had moved more – to a more special type of steel. The fact that there is some indication that due to the old mill structure, which creates a lot of pollutions, the Chinese government made for some of the bigger companies to close old mills and to open new mills, which are more efficient and are more – I would say environmental-friendly. In this case, despite the fact that the macroeconomic is that the recent overcapacity, the upside maybe, that we may enjoy part of being able to acquit the new mills in China. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Co. LLC: Okay. Any sense of the timing on that?

Ziv Shoshani

CEO

We would have a better understanding how Asia and mainly, the Chinese government what, how, which way they are going to go, I would say, it should be through the second half of this year. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Co. LLC: Okay. And one last question, I’ll get back into queue and maybe to some of you Bill, the SG&A line is up over $1 million sequentially.

William M. Clancy

Management

Right. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Co. LLC: And was even above what the similar revenue number was in the second quarter, which also had KELK. So I’m kind of wondering it’s kind of a big move there, what happened on the SG&A line?

William M. Clancy

Management

Sure, John. I mean most of that the increase of that $900 million, sequentially 900,000 comes from divisions, which is primarily we added some headcount; we also had some wage increases. The rest of the G&A was basically flat. So it really came from the divisions adding some headcount, helping to grow that the business like Ziv discussed. And I think John, going forward; this is probably a more accurate run rate for our total G&A. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay, all right. Thanks guys. I’ll get back into queue.

Operator

Operator

And Mr. Franzreb. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Yes.

Operator

Operator

Okay. Actually, if you hold on one moment. I’m just going to give the instructions, again. (Operator Instructions). And Mr. Franzreb, you can go ahead and proceed, sir with additional question, I mean if you do have. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. If that’s the case, could you just really talk about the tax rate – some it’s kind of in all over the board, which you’ll use for modeling purposes going forward. Could you just discuss that maybe a little bit in length, Bill?

William M. Clancy

Management

Sure, John. And then the operational tax rate for the year 2013 came in at about 25%. So I would say for next year, given the same all depends upon makeup of your income, and where it’s made. But we would expect the operational tax rate next year would be between like 25% and 26%. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. And maybe, we could have a little bit of a discussion on M&A going forward. It certainly sounds to me that multiples are call it floppy out there. What are your expectations on mergers and acquisitions in 2014? Will you be active or do you also see that the environments maybe a little bit rich?

Ziv Shoshani

CEO

Regarding acquisitions and you have seen now in our Investor Presentation, we have few highlights, which we are looking at acquiring the company. I think that as we said in the past, we are looking in a proactive way – and we are looking in a proactive way to acquire companies. Of course, it will depend on the end price. but nevertheless, if we would be able to achieve a similar deal to the KELK one, we will move forward. So you are correct, the environment did become rich, but we are still looking in a proactive way to acquire companies this year. John Franzreb – Sidoti & Company, LLC: Okay. That’s it from me, guys. Thank you very much.

Ziv Shoshani

CEO

Thank you, John.

William M. Clancy

Management

Thank you, John.

Operator

Operator

The next question we have comes from Ross DeMont of Midwood Capital. Ross D. DeMont – Midwood Capital Management LLC: Hi, guys. Congratulations on a good quarter and a good close to the year. Just wanted to ask about where EBITDA margins might normalize over time. I mean we used to do sort of mid-teens EBITDA margins admittedly as a division of a larger company. If we use sort of $250 million of revenue as a proxy. I mean what kind of EBITDA margins can we drive to that today?

William M. Clancy

Management

Good question. I mean for the EBITDA margin, to answer your question. If we get to the – I think the $250 million revenue, which is only $10 million more than what we have today, you are probably looking like in the low-teens from an EBITDA margin percentage of revenue. Ross D. DeMont – Midwood Capital Management LLC: Okay. That’d be great. Actually, that was my only question. I’d be great to see that.

William M. Clancy

Management

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

(Operator Instructions) It appears that we have no further questions at this time. We’ll go ahead and conclude our question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the conference back over to management for any closing remarks.

Wendy Wilson

Investor Relations

Thank you. Thank you, operator and thank you everyone for dialing in today. We look forward to speaking with you on the future and for any of you, who will be going to the Sidoti Conference in March, we will be there and we look forward to seeing you. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Operator

We thank you Ms. Wilson and gentlemen for your time. The conference call is now concluded. We thank you all for attending today’s presentation. At this time, you may disconnect your lines. Thank you and take care everyone.