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Virtus Investment Partners, Inc. (VRTS)

Q1 2020 Earnings Call· Fri, May 1, 2020

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Crystal, and I will be your conference operator today. I would like to welcome everyone to the Virtus Investment Partners Quarterly Conference Call. The slide presentation for this call is available in the Investor Relations section on the Virtus website, www.virtus.com. This call is also being recorded and will be available for replay on the Virtus website. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the conference over to your host, Sean Rourke.

Sean Rourke

Analyst

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. On behalf of Virtus Investment Partners, I'd like to welcome you to the discussion of our operating and financial results for the first quarter of 2020. Our speakers today are George Aylward, President and CEO of Virtus; and Mike Angerthal, Chief Financial Officer. Following the prepared remarks, we will have a Q&A period. Before we begin, I direct your attention to the important disclosures on Page 2 of the slide presentation that accompanies this webcast. Certain matters discussed on this call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, and as such are subject to known and unknown risks and uncertainties including, but not limited to, those factors set forth in today's news release and discussed in our SEC filings. These risks and uncertainties may cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed in these statements. In addition to results presented on a GAAP basis, we use certain non-GAAP measures to evaluate our financial results. Our non-GAAP financial measures are not substitutes for GAAP financial results and should be read in conjunction with the GAAP results. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures to the applicable GAAP measures are included in today's news release and financial supplement, which are available on our website. Now I'd like to turn the call over to George. George?

George Aylward

Analyst

Thanks, Sean. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining us on our first earning -- first quarter earnings conference call. As always, I appreciate your interest in Virtus and in this uncertain time, I hope that you and those you care about are all healthy and safe. Despite the challenging markets that emerged late in the first quarter and the resulting impact on ending asset levels and net flows, we are pleased with the financial and operating performance of the business, which included our highest level of quarterly sales with increases across nearly all product categories, positive net flows in retail separate accounts and structured products as well as equity strategies in the aggregate, a higher operating margin and earnings per share compared with the prior year period and continued return of capital and meaningfully higher debt reduction. Our managers also continue to generate outstanding investment performance, which I'll discuss in more detail in a moment. A market environment like the one we are experiencing provides a great opportunity for quality active asset managers to demonstrate their value to clients. Turning over to the results. After reaching our highest level last quarter, long-term AUM declined by $18 billion or 17% in the first quarter, almost entirely due to the market decline in March. For the quarter, we had $1.3 billion of net outflows, which were primarily in mutual funds, particularly fixed income. Looking at the flows, it is useful to understand the trend during the quarter. In the first 2 months, total long-term net flows continued the positive trend from the fourth quarter as we generated $1 billion of positive net flows with strong momentum across products and asset classes. However, the market shock in March led to elevated mutual fund redemptions as the retail investors fled to cash perceived…

Michael Angerthal

Analyst

Thank you, George. Good morning, everyone. Starting with our results on Slide 7, assets under management. At March 31, long-term assets were $89.5 billion, down from $107.7 billion at December 31. The sequential decrease reflected $16.6 billion of market depreciation and $1.3 billion of net outflows. Assets continue to be diversified by product type with open-end funds, institutional and retail separate accounts representing approximately 37%, 32% and 20%, respectively. In terms of asset classes, equity assets represented 64% of long-term AUM with 75% in domestic equity and 25% in international. I would point out that fixed income assets represented about 32% of long-term AUM, which is up 250 basis points sequentially, largely due to the impact of the equity market decline. We continue to generate strong relative investment performance across our strategies. As of March 31, approximately 82% of rated fund assets had 4 or 5 stars and 97% were in 3, 4 or 5-star funds. We currently have 7 funds with AUM of $1 billion or more, and all are rated 4 or 5 stars, representing a diverse set of strategies from 5 different managers. In addition to this very strong fund performance, 92% of institutional assets were beating their benchmark on a 5-year basis as of March 31 and 79% of assets were exceeding the median performance of their peer group on the same 5-year basis. Turning to Slide 8, asset flows. Net outflows of $1.3 billion in the first quarter were largely related to the exceptionally challenging markets in March. As George indicated, net flows were broadly positive through the end of February, continuing the trend of positive flows from the fourth quarter up until the market decline in March, which then led to elevated redemptions, primarily in the more credit-sensitive fixed income strategies. By product, we…

George Aylward

Analyst

Thank you, Mike. Few thoughts before taking questions. Clearly, these are unprecedented markets with an elevated level of uncertainty and volatility that makes it difficult for an asset manager to have clear visibility into the next few quarters. However, I can say that we are confident in our positioning from both competitive and balance sheet perspective. Our managers have clearly demonstrated their ability to generate attractive investment performance. Our distribution is highly effective, as evidenced by the sales growth during this environment. Our cost structure is highly variable. And as we've demonstrated, we've always managed our expenses thoughtfully and will continue to do so as we focus on those areas that enhance our value proposition. Balance sheet is strong, and we maintain an ability and flexibility to operate optimally. We will continue to be balanced in our management of capital, which has been core to our philosophy and allows us to navigate this environment without having to make fundamental changes to capital allocation. In addition, as I said earlier, this market is an opportunity for asset managers to demonstrate their value proposition. As we anticipate, all investors will be thoughtful about how to invest for the next 10 years as opposed to the last 10. We see this as an opportunity and one for which we are particularly well positioned. We'll now take your questions. Crystal, could you open up the lines, please.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Jeremy Campbell from Barclays.

Jeremy Campbell

Analyst

Thanks for the color around April flows. First, George, I'm just wondering if you can go into a little bit more detail around what strategies are driving such accelerated sales growth across the spectrum, but maybe particularly, especially in the retail separate account channel.

George Aylward

Analyst

Sure. And I think throughout the period, what we're trying to sort of highlight was really unusual about this period is not only the continued sales momentum, but actually, if I were to have gone into like on a month-by-month basis, there was actually sort of step increases over that period. Remember, when we did the call late January for the fourth quarter, we sort of indicated that daily sales in January were very strong and robust and pretty broad-based, particularly on the equity side is what I would say. And then as we went into February, they actually upticked even more in terms of the sales, again broad-based other than maybe a few fixed income strategies. So that was sort of interesting to watch. And then even during that incredibly severe dislocation in March, where you sort of had a capitulation on the redemption side, you actually didn't see any decline in sale, which is really unusual. I've been looking at daily sales since 1996, and it's really odd to not have some kind of correlation between sales levels and capitulation on the redemption side. But they sort of held up. And I think a lot of that was, while there were clearly many people thoughtfully moving to the perceived safety of either cash or very credit -- high credit quality strategies, other people were rebalancing their portfolios and seeing that as an entry point into maybe some equity strategies that they had previously thought might have been overbought. So I think the diversity, because I think as we sort of walk through the different strategies, and domestic and aggregate maintained is its positive momentum. On the international side, that was positive. So what I would really do is do the reverse, is where was there a little bit of weakness, it was absolutely during the downturn in the very credit sensitive end of the lower credit quality fixed income and emerging market equities, which all make sense. Other than that, it was pretty consistent. And it was in funds and it was in retail separate accounts and as they've been alluded to for April, it's in the institutional side. So really, it's almost like if you plucked out those 3 weeks in March, the numbers across the board would have been incredibly strong and positive across all the product categories. Mike, is there anything you would add in terms of the breadth?

Michael Angerthal

Analyst

No, I think you covered it comprehensively.

Jeremy Campbell

Analyst

Great. And then just a quick follow-up. Mike, I was hoping -- obviously, there's a lot of moving pieces to fee rate because you have inflows in the higher fee products and outflows in lower fee products, but you also have the strange averaging thing that happened probably during the first quarter where because the sell-off was in March, it kind of was a late quarter weighting, if you will. So I was just hoping you can give some color around, one, maybe where the fee rate was ending the quarter versus the quarter average? And then two, where we might be sitting right now given the pretty big rally back here we've had in April?

Michael Angerthal

Analyst

Yes. Obviously, this is a difficult question to answer given the significant volatility in the markets. We did point out -- I think it's important to recall that certain of the asset categories and the product types do lock in their fee rates at the beginning of the period, and most notably, retail separate accounts. And I think just looking at that product category, I think from a modeling purpose, you'd probably want to look towards the fourth quarter rate and -- in that 46% to 47% level as a more appropriate level for modeling purposes. And then as we look at the open-end funds, we did have the positive fee rate differential which was offset by some of the equity market declines. So again, I think looking back at the fourth quarter level is probably as good as any from a modeling perspective. But clearly, these fee rates are going to be impacted by the continued volatility of the market. So I think indicative.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Sumeet Mody from Piper Sandler.

Sumeet Mody

Analyst

Just wanted to get an update on the capital priorities in this environment. I saw the increased debt paydown in the quarter, $27.5 million, with the purchases in line with last quarter on a dollar basis. Just wanted to get an idea of how you guys thought about that balance in the quarter. And then with the stock kind of rebounding off these lows, your leverage ratio still being in a pretty comfortable position, how are you thinking about that in the second quarter and potentially moving forward from there?

George Aylward

Analyst

Sure. And a lot of it is sort of fundamental, sort of how we always think about, right? We always sort of strive to make sure that we have the flexibility and the optionality to sort of maximize our use of capital in an environment. So having gone through this environment, the thoughtfulness behind getting into this environment, making sure we weren't too overlevered and that we could sufficiently have capital to fund the ongoing investments in our business as well as sustained repurchases and returns of stock, sort of -- it was helpful to have that kind of a situation as we entered this. So as we always do, we sort of evaluate at any point in time what the different opportunities are. So we highlighted a couple. So we do believe in consistently paying down debt, and we've demonstrated that consistently since the issuance of that debt. But there's also an opportunity to retire some of the discounts. So that we viewed as a compelling use of capital and did it at that time. And in terms of the stock repurchases, we consistently do stock repurchases generally other than those periods where we have other -- some other large capital type of a commitment. And we also, in an environment like this, want to be thoughtful that we maintain sufficient liquidity, had things continue to go south, right? At March 23, the feel in the market was much different than it was, what, 2 days ago. So we do think -- our main obligation is to make sure we have a strong balance sheet to manage the company if things were to get as dire in the financial markets as they were previously, but then not to have that preclude us from having opportunities to take advantage of that. Mike, do you want to talk about the debt repurchase?

Michael Angerthal

Analyst

Yes. And Sumeet, the debt repurchase, I think it's good to just elaborate on how we thought about it, of the $28 million -- or the $27.5 million paydown in the first quarter. We've generally been consistently paying down the term loan on a quarterly basis and $17.5 million of that was clearly part of the consistent approach of paying down the loan. And then as the markets dislocated in that mid-March time frame, we saw just an opportunity to provide liquidity to certain of the holders of the loan at a meaningful discount when it just traded down into the 80s. So we were able to deliver a gain while continuing to delever. And since that time, we've seen the loan creep back up close to the 97, and it's historically traded at par. So it's something we monitor, and we were able to opportunistically execute in that dislocation.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from [ Gayathri Ramakrishnan ] from Bank of America.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

This is [ Gayathri ] on behalf of Michael Carrier. Just following up on the question -- hello, can you hear me?

George Aylward

Analyst

Yes, yes.

Unknown Analyst

Analyst

Yes. Just following up on the earlier question on capital management. I was wondering what your appetite for M&A is? And sort of what would be the nature of new affiliates you are likely to look at in the near future?

George Aylward

Analyst

Yes. So going back to the -- the philosophy is, we want to make sure we do have flexibility for the various things in terms of, we spoke about return of capital, we spoke about thoughtfully managing our leverage as appropriate and having flexibility in our balance sheet. We always say on M&A that our fundamental long-term growth strategy is not predicated upon M&A. However, we see it as a very effective tool in the right environments. And I think it will be interesting to see, this environment may create opportunities. We certainly will evaluate anything that comes to our attention. We think we're uniquely positioned, particularly for some of the firms that we’re looking to partner in a multi-boutique model. So we would certainly consider things like that. Again, our strategy isn't dependent upon that to be successful. But we do think that there could -- if there were opportunities, we would certainly look at those. And in terms of kinds of things we look at, it would -- it really gets down primarily to firms that are very good at what they do and are somehow differentiated in one aspect or another. So it's sort of hard to put a filter around that because you sort of never know what opportunities are going to arise. But we're conscious of anything that's sort of out there and are continuing -- we continuously have dialogues looking for opportunities. But we're very thoughtful about how we use our capital and what is the highest and best use at any given time.

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our next question comes from Michael Cyprys from Morgan Stanley.

Stephanie Ma

Analyst

This is Stephanie filling in for Mike. I wanted to ask about expenses a bit more and how are you thinking about expense flexibility if the markets pull back further. Maybe can we get update on the comp outlook? I apologize, if I missed that earlier. And then broadly speaking, any color around what levers you could potentially look to pull further, if we have a sustained market pullback?

George Aylward

Analyst

Sure. I'll give a high level, and then Mike can elaborate. So generally, as we sort of look at our expenses, we do have a meaningful percentage of our expenses that are variable, that will vary with the revenue line and the AUM line, and that includes a significant portion of our employment expense. So a lot of our employment expense, and as a reminder, a lot of our affiliate structures, are profit based. So that as profit goes down, the compensation goes down. And then there will be certain things, and Mike alluded to one of them, which is travel and entertainment, I'm pretty confident will be much lower this quarter than it was in the second quarter of last year. So I think we sort of see that happening. So we constantly monitor our expenses and we look at those things where, in the short term, we can maximize opportunity without sacrificing strategic things. Mike?

Michael Angerthal

Analyst

Yes. I think as we've talked about, on the employment side, about 50% to 55% of the employment is variable. It is challenging given these volatile markets to talk about expectations. Certainly, we pointed to record levels of sales in April. Assuming that would continue, then we would have sales commissions go up. And given the market environment, we would probably exceed the range that we've talked about previously. But certainly, the market and sales levels are the key variables that are going to drive the employment ratio, the profit-based pools, they certainly take care and fluctuate according to revenue and profits. On the other operating expense side, we did point to moving to the low end of that $18 million to $20 million range, as we talked about. So there's some flexibility. And again, I think that that's appropriate thinking about the second quarter. And as you model again, just a reminder of the Board grants that come through on the expense side in Q2.

Stephanie Ma

Analyst

Okay. And then maybe a follow-up, if I can. I wanted to get an update on your view on the CLOs. Given the current market environment, how are you thinking about the potential deferral of sub fees on the CLOs? Has that happened yet? And any help on sizing any potential impact there?

Michael Angerthal

Analyst

Yes. I think there are a couple of impacts that I'll point to, and we did talk about the outlook for interest and dividend income in the second quarter in a range of $1 million to $1.5 million. That's down from $3.4 million in the first quarter, and that's a combination of the seed portfolio, the cash balances expecting to contribute lower given the lower cash balances and the lower expected return on those cash balances in the current environment and then the outlook on CLOs. I think as we look forward to the CLOs, our managers are actively performing and managing each of our CLOs, which represent about $4 billion or so of AUM. I think it's important to note of the 34 basis point fee on structured products, about 1/3 of that fee is the senior fee, 2/3 of it is subordinate. And we'll look to each of the structures on how they're performing will impact the subordinate fee. And as you mentioned, there are some structures that have been deferring the subordinate fee at this point. We sort of looked back to previous market cycles where those deferrals can last a quarter or 2 and then get fully recovered. So we feel good about that asset category. It'll be reflected on a structure by structure basis, and we'll update you as appropriate to the extent anything changes.

Operator

Operator

And I am showing no further questions from our phone lines. I'd now like to turn the conference back over to George Aylward for any closing remarks.

George Aylward

Analyst

Great. Thank you. And I want to thank everyone today for joining us. And certainly, as always, encourage you to give us a call if you have any other further questions. Take care and stay safe.

Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in today's conference. This does conclude the program. You may all disconnect. Everyone, have a wonderful day.