Sure. I mean, I think that -- I mean, the V was very, very tight, right, in '09. Demand snapped back pretty quickly. And if you remember, we put a very large medium aircraft order in for the 35 76C++ so and that benefited us in the '10, '11 and '12 time frame. so we -- again, we talked a little bit about doing some of that in this downturn. Because some of this also has, really, a bifurcation with some type of financial crisis, we do believe it's going to come back. I think the real issue, though is the cost structures of our clients will take time to adjust. And whether you talk about shale, which we come off quickly but the actual production does take at least a year, if you talk about a number of other issues associated with our clients who weren't doing great from a return standpoint, even at a $100 oil, there is a number of cost-structure initiatives they have to get through. We want to help them. And I think that's going to take longer, right? And don't get me wrong. If it ends up being V-shaped, all the better. That's one of the reasons why we're very, very careful about making sure that we fleet-manage correctly, get, in essence, rid of some of our older aircraft faster, have these new aircraft ready to go. And for us, that's being prepared, because of the capital intensity. But also managing our cost structure. I think that's one thing you're hearing differently in third quarter than second quarter. Because we think it's you, we really do have to get at our cost structure, come -- because unlike others that we really admire in the oil subservices space, who have less capital intensity, maybe more technology-oriented companies, they don't have the capital intensity. And therefore, we had to look at both our cost structure if we believe it's U-shaped. We don't have the luxury, in many ways, of hoping that it's V-shaped. We have to plan for something that's U-shaped that has some cost structure adjustments. And know this; the elimination of OIBU, the restructuring of our maintenance, that actually started in August, right? We couldn't announce this today. These things take a number of months, and we've already, in many ways, prepared for other things that Jeremy's not going to be specific for over the last 6 months, seeing that our clients weren't doing well last summer, anyway.