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NCR Voyix Corporation (VYX)

Q3 2023 Earnings Call· Sat, Nov 11, 2023

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Operator

Operator

Good day. And welcome to the NCR Voyix Corporation Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I’d like to turn the conference over to Mr. Michael Nelson, Treasurer and Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Michael Nelson

Management

Good afternoon. And thank you for joining our third quarter 2023 earnings call. Joining me on the call today are NCR Voyix CEO, David Wilkinson; and CFO, Brian Webb-Walsh. The focus of our discussion on today’s conference call will be on NCR Voyix segment results and key performance indicators for the third quarter 2023. We would appreciate it if you keep your questions focused on the NCR Voyix segment results during Q&A. Please note that our presentation and discussions will include forward-looking statements. These statements reflect our current expectations and beliefs, but they are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those expectations. These risks and uncertainties are described in our earnings release and our periodic filings with the SEC, including our annual report. On today’s call, we will also be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. These non-GAAP measures are described and reconciled to their GAAP counterparts in the presentation materials, the press release dated November 9, 2023, and on the Investor Relations page of our website. A replay of this call will be available later today on our website, ncrvoyix.com. Slides two and three of our earnings presentation provide further details. With that, I would now like to turn the call over to David.

David Wilkinson

Management

Thank you, Michael. And welcome everyone to our first earnings call as NCR Voyix. Please turn to slide six. This is an exciting time as we begin a new chapter in our journey as a publicly traded company. On October 16th, we successfully completed the separation of NCR Atleos. NCR Voyix common stock began trading on the New York Stock Exchange under the ticker symbol VYX at the market open on October 17th. As we move forward, we are well positioned with an exceptional leadership team and a supportive Board of Directors that come with extensive industry knowledge and transformational expertise. We are fully prepared to execute our vision as a focused, platform-led software and services company. First, I would like to thank to more than 16,000 NCR Voyix employees for their dedication and engagement, particularly over these last few months. Complex transactions like these can often be disruptive, but I am proud of how our employees contributed to the success of this transaction. Not only did they deliver strong third quarter results, but they also maintained a high level of service excellence for our customers. Before we dive into our discussion of the NCR Voyix third quarter results, I’d like to reiterate some of the key messages we outlined in our September Investor Day, particularly around service offerings, competitive advantages and growth trajectory. Please turn to slide seven. NCR Voyix is a platform-led SaaS and services company that serves three essential industries, Retail, Restaurants and Banks. For fiscal year 2023, we are on pace to generate nearly $4 billion in annual revenue with approximately half of that from recurring revenues. Software and services comprised about $2.5 billion of our revenue. We operate in a large and growing addressable market valued at a minimum of $25 billion and we maintain…

Brian Webb-Walsh

Management

Thank you, David, and thank you everyone for joining our call today. It’s an exciting time at NCR Voyix. We have certainly accomplished a lot in a short period of time, which is a testament to the talent, dedication and experience of our employees. As Michael stated at the opening of our call, the focus of my discussion will be on the NCR Voyix segment results. Our growth rates presented are on a constant currency basis for better comparison purposes. Please turn to slide 11. In the third quarter, total segment constant currency revenue was flat compared to the prior year and on a year-to-date basis, total segment revenue grew 2% compared to the prior year. For Q3, this includes a 3-point headwind from shifting upfront revenue to recurring. These results reflect our strategy to connect our customers to our SaaS-based platform. Software and services growth offset the decline in hardware revenue, which resulted from the post-COVID bump in the prior year. For the third quarter, constant currency segment adjusted EBITDA increased 2% to $249 million and segment adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 90 basis points to 26.1%. Year-to-date, adjusted EBITDA for the combined segments increased 13% over the prior year and adjusted EBITDA margin expanded 240 basis points to 24.3%. These improvements to adjusted EBITDA were driven by the mix shift from hardware products to our SaaS-based solutions and services, along with cost initiatives that we implemented to improve efficiency. Please turn to slide 12. As I stated on the previous slide, segment constant currency revenue for the third quarter was flat compared to the prior year. However, recurring revenue increased 7% over the same period. As of the third quarter, recurring revenue for the combined segments represented 56% of total revenue, an improvement of 340 basis points over the…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We will take our first question from the line of Dan Perlin with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Dan Perlin

Analyst

Thanks. Good evening and congratulations on the spin. I am sure it was a Herculean task. So David, I just wanted to ask you kind of a broad question initially, which is now post the spin, the conversations you are having with clients across kind of all three of these segments. Maybe you can just kind of bring us up to speed on what those are like, are you finding that during the spend period, there was a little bit of distraction and now the clients are much more focused, and as a result, they are kind of ready to get back and spend with you? Just any kind of anecdotal information would be great? Thanks.

David Wilkinson

Management

Sure. Thanks for the question, Dan. Overall, the conversations largely haven’t changed. I will tell you the teams have not been distracted. It was a Herculean effort. So I appreciate you recognizing that, obviously, very complicated what turned into almost a 50-50 split of NCR into Atleos and Voyix. The customers are very open and receptive, they see the focus that we are driving now as a platform-led software and services company and the progress that we made and we just described in the earnings release, the site growth and the platform lane and the conversion that we are seeing in the upsell and cross-sell message is working with -- and resonating in the marketplace and the functionality that we are delivering for our clients is needed more now than ever as they look to consolidate suppliers and really try to find more of a one-stop shop. So the conversations have been positive all throughout the spin. The service performance by the team has been really amazing to be honest with you and our customers like the new focus and are very receptive.

Dan Perlin

Analyst

Yeah. No. I mean, the results seem to suggest that. So thanks for that color. Just a quick follow-up, the payment asset you just divested, I think, you said generated $40 million of revenues. Can you just remind us like what you are keeping, why you decided to get rid of that business, how that impacts in any way the strategy to kind of, of course, and entice new clients to kind of sign up with the payment? And then with getting rid of some of that stuff, what are you replacing it with or using a third-party, anything around that would be great? Thank you.

David Wilkinson

Management

Yeah. Payments is still a critical part of our go-forward strategy to expand ARPU through the platform. So the assets that were divested were more payment contracts associated with non-core -- non-point-of-sale attach payments not related to Retail, Restaurants or our Banking clients. So our strategy going forward is really to start payments on the point-of-sale software and complete payment through processing to really take paying off of our merchants and complete the payment end-to-end and it’s been the strategy all along. We don’t lose any core capabilities through this process. We will continue to have some capabilities on our front end. We have partnered in the past, we will continue to partner and have a mix of our own capabilities and partner capabilities as we deliver that end-to-end payment. It starts with the sticky point of sale as the -- that’s where we want to build off of that. So we are really trying to just extend that value and clip that payment coupon where we can. It doesn’t mean we have to have 100% penetration. So the strategy has not changed. This will get us a little more focused on executing the attach side of that within our core.

Dan Perlin

Analyst

Got it. Okay. Thank you so much.

Operator

Operator

We will take our next question from the line of Matt Summerville with D.A. Davison. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davison. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Thanks. A couple of questions. David, can you talk a little bit about what you are seeing just more broadly speaking from a demand standpoint within the Retail business, specifically comparing and contrasting between SCO and EPOS. And with respect to the former being SCO, I am curious as to whether you guys are seeing more competition from third-party integrators in the space? And then I have a follow-up. Thank you.

David Wilkinson

Management

Okay. The -- our SCO demand remains strong. We are seeing market share growth. We have been -- the last RBR report comes out, we were the 20 years in a row, the market share leader, still double that of our nearest competitor. And we believe and our numbers will tell us we are going to continue to take share as we expand this year. So the market is growing, that RBR report will tell us that we are seeing mid-single-digit growth in self-checkout and we see that across the strong demand -- that strong demand signal and what we are doing. We are seeing the expansion come in a couple of areas. One, it’s expanding beyond grocery into convenience and fuel and specialty, you will see that in one of the customer wins that we highlighted with designer brands, the old DSW shoe -- that’s the shoe company. But they -- that’s a good example of how we are seeing self-checkout grow beyond grocery. All these customers are also trying to own and define their front-end experience as it relates to self-checkout and that becomes a critical part of that. So the different form factors that we are seeing. And then the labor challenges are real and only worsening in terms of the need to have more labor hours in the store to deliver those services and then try to redistribute labor with creating flexible front ends. On the consumer side of what’s driving that demand, our third-party research and what we read tells us that shoppers prefer to have a choice and they like self-checkout. And so while you see a few of the negative articles run stray, that’s not the general sentiment of the market and that’s evidenced by continued high adoption in stores where we deploy…

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davison. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

And then the other question I had, David, was on third-party competition from system more of a third-party integrator approach trying to get into the self-checkout market if you are seeing that in your business?

David Wilkinson

Management

The good news of our platform approach is that we can embrace -- we have this open ecosystem that we can embrace, whether it’s the do-it-yourself trend that we see with some retailers or whether it’s third-party integrators. We partner with a lot of the big integrators. We are not seeing them come in as really direct competition. The competitive landscape hasn’t changed that much. There are a few start-ups doing some things around specific technology, but we are embracing that. The other benefit of our model is, as we move to the platform the soft, our real value is in the intellectual property around the software and how consumers interact with those devices in the store. So that value doesn’t go anywhere regardless of who -- what other parties are involved. So we -- this is a rising tide that will raise all boats for us in the sense that we will connect to the platform will monetize our model, we can monetize those assets as we deploy with partners or even kind of DIY folks as well. So we feel like we are in a pretty good place.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davison. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

And then just as a follow-up on Digital Banking. Can you maybe talk about where you are at year-to-date from a win rate standpoint in that business versus maybe where it was at two years ago and maybe compare and contrast where you are at with your renewals and the success rates you are experiencing now versus in the not too distant past there? Thanks.

David Wilkinson

Management

Yeah. We are seeing mid-90s in terms of renewal rates across that business, and as we have stated in this release and the previous four quarters, over that time horizon, we won 36 net new customers, we are gaining share in Digital Banking, we are growing registered and active users and you are starting to see that really convert into the growth that we are seeing, the 9% year-over-year ARR growth that you see is the evidence that would support that growth. There is some timing of some customers that we onboarded. So those customers don’t immediately show up. So a lot of the big wins take a little bit longer to onboard. So as those 36 net new customers start to come onboard, that’s what’s gives us confidence in the growth rates in that business.

Matt Summerville

Analyst · D.A. Davison. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Perfect. Thanks, David.

Operator

Operator

We will take our next question from the line of Erik Woodring with Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Erik Woodring

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Hey, guys. Thank you very much for taking my question, and again, congrats on the spend. David, you alluded to some of the hardware declines that is kind of helping to offset the recurring revenue growth. I am just curious, outside of that shift that you are making to the platform lanes and more SaaS-based revenue. Are there any other headwinds to that hardware business that you kind of need to correct or shore up, so to speak? And maybe my question is, outside of the conversion part of your business, kind of how do you change the trajectory of that part of your business that is in -- that is currently in decline? And then I have a follow-up. Thanks.

David Wilkinson

Management

Yeah. Part of the other headwind is, as we have described in previous calls is the average selling price, the ASP, as we get into some of these new formats, even though we are driving unit volume and things like self-checkout, the form factor is a little smaller, convenience is more of a kiosk than a full appliance like you would see in a grocery store that takes cash and other things. So there’s some ASP compression that’s happening in that market. That’s why we see revenue growing a little slower than our unit volume and the overall market share growth. For us, it’s also about -- we are going to shift a bit of a focus to go acquire some net new customers across the Board and we think that will help shore up some of the hardware declines that we see across the existing base as people are sweating assets a little longer. And we are actually creating some of our own headwinds with our edge technology that allows us to uniquely deploy software on hardware and really extend the life of hardware in stores. It’s a real value to our customers in the Retail and Restaurant segment, and so we will find some growth in net new customers as well to overcome some of the overall secular trends in hardware.

Erik Woodring

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Okay. Very clear. Thank you. And then we have heard a lot of positive commentary tonight and so it is really great to see you kind of carrying the momentum after the spin. Just curious if you were to take a bit of like a self-reflecting view of the business and the management team execution. What are any areas where you need to prioritize either improving the product or improving the go-to-market approach or even just improving the overall execution? Where are those holes that you need to patch that can almost supercharge the performance that you are seeing from the rest of your business? And that’s it from me. Thanks.

David Wilkinson

Management

Thanks for recognizing the team for the great performance. They have really stepped up, as you described and delivered an amazing set of results. The areas I would tell you that, I want to supercharge growth in Digital Banking. I mean you are starting to see that growth. So you see the EBITDA margin rate in Digital Banking down a little bit. That’s because we are trying to pour some gas on that fire and get more sales momentum and get in front of every financial institution, because we have done a really good job of building an amazing product there, and we are winning, as I described with the 36 new customers and so I would like to see us move a little faster in terms of gaining new customers. And then when I answered your question on the hardware side, I also want to see us -- our investment thesis and everything we have outlined is really about retaining the base, connecting them to the platform, which we have seen tremendous progress against and then adding new products to grow ARPU, I want us to focus too on adding new customers. I want to -- we want to continue to take share in this space. So I would tell you where we want to focus is on -- it’s not a wholesale shift and it’s not a bunch of product gaps, it’s really get faster connections to the platform, let’s grow some sites across both Retail, Restaurants and our Digital Banking.

Erik Woodring

Analyst · Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Very clear. Thank you very much, guys. Good luck.

Operator

Operator

Thanks. [Operator Instructions] We will take our next question from the line of Ian Zaffino with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Ian Zaffino

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Hi. Great. Thank you very much. Just kind of want to follow up on the last question. I am just looking at sort of Retail, I guess, platform sites are up under 118%. So that’s great numbers. But just getting on to the legacy side, can you maybe give us an idea of the magnitude of declines you are seeing there or maybe -- are they accelerating, are they moderating? Is there anything on the horizon that would suggest that maybe it does moderate or is this just sort of something that we had to deal with basically until this 2027 when things really start accelerating like you kind of outlined in your Investor Day? Thanks.

David Wilkinson

Management

Hey, Ian. The overall sites for us aren’t -- they are relatively flat in the enterprise space for us. So there’s no real decline there. When we talked about legacy, the hardware business has declined, but the overall all overall site count is relatively flat and that’s the area I said we want a supercharge, SMB sites are growing, Digital Banking sites are growing. So the conversion of the platform -- we will continue to see this kind of a trajectory as we described in our Investor Day. So some of the assumptions that we put out in terms of platform site conversion rates against our installed base. So we still believe in all those assumptions. So the -- we described the headwinds -- Brian did in the Investor Day of 2% headwinds over the next -- over 2023 and 2024, starting to shift to tailwinds beyond that as we make that shift to recurring. We still feel that way and have confirmed the assumptions that we made from that original Investor Day presentation in that space.

Ian Zaffino

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Okay. Great. And then also, I guess, congratulations on Uncle Julio’s and Papa Murphy’s. For you to kind of look at the slide, I think, you put off the case study of the Buffalo Wild Wings, where are you in that or is this on the conversion to platform, are we in the impactful results segment? Where are we and how is it tracking, I guess, versus kind of the magnitude of increases that you laid out in that case study? Thanks.

David Wilkinson

Management

Yeah. I mean we outlined the -- in the Investor Day where that Buffalo Wild Wings case study was, we outlined the progress that we have made. We said we were about 20% converted on our Restaurant sites installed base and about 10% on Retail. So we are tracking to those numbers. And we are seeing those ARPU metrics play out. So when we -- as we just described in the recent wins Uncle Julio’s being one, adding payments adds a tremendous amount of additional revenue and we are seeing that show up in ARR growth in the Restaurant segment. So ARR was up 10% year-over-year. That’s on the back of both conversion to the platform and adding payment sites. So we are seeing the numbers play out as we have described in the Investor Day deck. We have no reason to change that.

Ian Zaffino

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Okay. So just maybe a quick follow-up on that one. So I guess when you say conversion to SaaS, you are kind of in that 39 -- not that this client, in particular, would be 3,900, but you are in that 3,900 ARPU box, right? So have you started to see kind of that 9,000 ARPU box yet or just want to know when that will be…

David Wilkinson

Management

It’s client, we -- it’s client-specific. So depending on how long you are -- when we gave the pilot example in the Investor Day deck and the SMB example and we saw the SMB example we gave got close to 19,000 when we include payments into that site. So it’s somewhat dependent on the soak time, if you will, connected to the platform and how long we have to upsell and cross-sell, and some of it is the pain point. The way we approach these is we are solving pain points for these customers and the real value. So we are not forcing them to the platform. We are going in and solving a real-world problem and they adopt the one or two services to solve that problem and then we get in there with additional products. So it’s timing of the cohorts. So we are in that range. We estimate we kind of closed the year, we said, on average, about 3,600 in ARPU across the base. So we are right in that range.

Ian Zaffino

Analyst · Oppenheimer. Please go ahead. Your line is now open.

Great. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

There are no further questions at this time. Mr. Wilkinson, I will turn the conference back to you for any additional or closing remarks.

David Wilkinson

Management

Perfect. Thank you, Operator. Thanks again for joining the call today. And as I said in the opening, the employees of NCR now NCR Voyix and NCR Atleos really did an amazing job to get the spend done and deliver a great quarter. So I appreciate everybody recognizing that. We have a tremendous opportunity in each of our businesses and we are truly excited about what’s in front of us in the future. And we are operating from a position of strength and we will continue to build on our strong foundation. We are the market leader and we have a large base of blue chip customers with whom we have deep and lasting relationships and we have the critical end-to-end solutions to continue serving these customers to help them run their stores, Restaurants and branches more effectively, and we are winning in the market and taking share. Across all three segments we serve, our formula for growth is the same. We are going to capitalize on the secular growth trends to win net new customers and gain market share. We are going to connect and onboard existing customers to our platform to drive deeper relationships and capture greater wallet share. When we do all this, it will improve EBITDA margin through the shift in our business and we will have continued focus on efficiencies and productivity initiatives that will expand margins. And as I mentioned in my opening remarks, our customer’s success is our success and their growth fuels our growth. So I want to thank all of our customers as well. We strive to deliver consistent world-class experiences to our customers and remain a market leader. We know this is the right formula to drive significant value creation. We are fully committed to delivering results to compound shareholder return. I’d like to thank all the employees of NCR Voyix and NCR Atleos once more and thank you all for joining.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect.