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Washington Trust Bancorp, Inc. (WASH)

Q1 2025 Earnings Call· Mon, Apr 21, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Good morning, and welcome to the Washington Trust Bancorp, Inc.'s Conference Call. My name is Jayla, and I'll be your operator today. [Operator Instructions] Today's call is being recorded. And now I will turn the call over to Sharon Walsh, Senior Vice President, Marketing Strategy and Planning. Please go ahead.

Sharon Walsh

Analyst

Thank you, Jayla. Good morning, and welcome to Washington Trust Bancorp, Inc.'s conference call for the first quarter of 2025. Joining us this morning are members of the Washington Trust executive team, Ned Handy, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; Mary Noons, President and Chief Operating Officer; Ron Ohsberg, Senior Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer; and Bill Wray, Senior Executive Vice President and Chief Risk Officer. Please note that today's presentation may contain forward-looking statements, and our actual results could differ materially from what is discussed on today's call. Our complete safe harbor statement is contained in our earnings release, which was issued earlier today, as well as other documents that are filed with the SEC. All of these materials and other public filings are available on our Investor Relations website at ir.washtrust.com. Washington Trust trades on NASDAQ under the symbol WASH. I'm now pleased to introduce today's host, Washington Trust's Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, Ned Handy. Ned?

Ned Handy

Analyst

Thank you, Sharon, and good morning, and thank you all for joining our first quarter conference call. We respect and appreciate your time and interest in Washington Trust. I'll briefly comment on the quarter and then Ron will provide more detail on the financial results. And after our prepared remarks, Mary and Bill will join us for the Q&A session. Washington Trust's first quarter results show the positive effects of our Q4 balance sheet restructuring with improvements in NIM, loan to deposit ratio, dividend coverage, and capital. We also saw our deposit growth strategies deliver results in both in-market deposits and new households. In-market deposits reached an all-time high of $5.13 billion. While intentional reduction in our residential mortgage portfolio, elevated payoffs in our CRE book, and reduced line utilization outstrip new loan fundings in the quarter, pipelines continue to build and we expect low-single-digit growth to be achievable. Our retail branches continue to compete well in the neighborhoods they serve, and we've now supplemented them with a team of retail sales officers, full-time sales professionals dedicated to surfacing loan and deposit opportunities, complementary to our branch, business, and commercial bankers. Our teams continue to listen to our customers and prospects and to build solutions to the varied challenges and opportunities that arise in uncertain times. We remain committed in service to all the communities, customers, and stakeholders, who count on our consistent presence and performance. I'll now turn the call over to Ron for additional details on the quarter. We'll then be glad to address any questions. Ron?

Ned Handy

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Ned, and good morning, everyone. For the first quarter, we reported net income of $12.2 million or $0.63 per share, excluding two infrequent transactions that I will discuss shortly, adjusted net income amounted to $11.8 million or $0.61 per share. Net interest income was $36.4 million, up by $3.5 million or 11% on a linked quarter basis. The margin was 2.29% up by 34 basis points, reflecting benefits from the recent balance sheet repositioning transactions. Turning to fees, as previously disclosed, five branch locations with a total net book value of $4.8 million were reported as held for sale at December 31. Sale leaseback transactions were completed in Q1, and a pre-tax net gain on the sale of these properties totaling $7 million was recognized within non-interest income. Excluding infrequent transactions, adjusted net income amounted to $15.6 million and was down $394,000 or 2%. Wealth management revenues were $9.9 million down by $158,000 or 2% and mortgage banking revenues totaled $2.3 million, down $544,000 or 19%. Our mortgage pipeline at March 31 was $95 million, up by $35 million or 59% from the end of December. Turning to expenses, in connection with our previously disclosed termination of our qualified pension plan, plan assets were distributed in Q1, which resulted in a pre-tax non-cash pension settlement charge of $6.4 million being recognized within non-interest expenses. This charge reflected the recognition of pre-tax actuarial losses previously reported as a reduction in AOCI. Excluding the pension settlement, adjusted non-interest expenses totaled $35.8 million, up by $1.5 million or 4%, compared to Q4. Salaries employee benefits expense was up $547,000 or 3%, which includes higher payroll taxes due to the start of the new calendar year. Income tax expense in the first quarter totaled $3.5 million and the effective tax rate was…

Ned Handy

Analyst

Thank you, Ron. And at this point, we'll open it up for questions.

Operator

Operator

Our first question comes from Mark Fitzgibbon with the company Piper Sandler. Mark your line is now open.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Hey, guys. Good morning.

Ned Handy

Analyst

Good morning, Mark.

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

Hey, Mark.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Hey, Ron, I was curious, how much will the quarterly operating cost be impacted as a result of the sale lease back and the pension curtailment? Or maybe asked it different way, what do you think sort of run rate operating expenses will look like going forward?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

Yes, so the -- on an annual basis, the sale lease back adds about a net $700,000 to occupancy and equipment. But that was all embedded in the guidance that we gave in January.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Okay. And what about the pension curtailment impact?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

Yes, I don't think -- there's really no ongoing expense related to the pension. And again, any, you know, that was all factored into guidance that we gave at year-end.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Okay.

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

And I would just say, Mark, I would just say that the guidance I gave at the end in the first quarter is for expenses, both on the salary line and on the other expense line is consistent.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Okay, great. And then secondly, I know, Ned, you mentioned that the pipelines were strong. Can you give us any color on sort of size and complexion?

Ned Handy

Analyst

Yes, Mark, it's a little over $100 million on the commercial side, which is not historic highs, but maintained despite about $50 million of formation in the first quarter. So you know we're kind of in rebuild mode. The early stages of the pipeline are stronger. We don't typically report on proposals out. We report on stuff where proposals have been accepted, so but that early stage is growing as well. So I feel confident that the low-single-digit guidance we gave is still reachable and there's a lot of good activity going on. Mary, I don't know, on the resi side, do you want to?

Mary Noons

Analyst

Sure, so we're hitting the seasonal period where it starts to grow on the resi side. Again, a lot of that is going towards fee generation, but it's up from where it was at $3.31.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Okay, great. And then, Ron, assuming we follow the forward curve, I assume you think the net interest margin will continue to steadily rise a few basis points a quarter across the remainder of the year. Is that a fair statement?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

Yes. So we're thinking, well, obviously a lot of uncertainty with the Fed's rate policy. So I'd like to just limit my guidance to the second quarter. And we're looking at $2.35 for the quarter. And then we'll see what happens.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Okay. Fair enough. And then lastly, I guess I was curious what your longer, maybe intermediate term or longer term expectations or targets would be for the dividend payout ratio? Where would you like to see that?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

Yes, we'd like to see it lower, obviously, as we've said, we have no intention of reducing it. So from this point forward, I think that the point is to be improving that income and bringing the ratio down. So we expect to be certainly in the mid to low-80s by the end of the year, and we'll see where it goes from there. Not likely to increase the dividend anytime soon, for sure.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Right. But do you feel like that could constrain your ability to grow when the environment starts to get better if you've got such a high payout ratio?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

Yes. Well, it could. You know, we'll just have to see when we get there.

Mark Fitzgibbon

Analyst

Okay. Thank you.

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

Yes. Operator And the question comes from Damon DelMonte with the company KBW. Damon, your line is now open.

Damon DelMonte

Analyst

Thank you, good morning. So just wanted to circle back on the margin. You know, if we do see a couple rate cuts in the latter part of this year, you know, how has your interest rate sensitivity changed given the restructuring and other items that have occurred in the last few months for you guys?

Ned Handy

Analyst

Yes. So, you know, historically, we were pretty asset sensitive and we strayed away from that and I would say even, even went liability sensitive probably at an inopportune time for sure. The restructuring that we did took a lot of that liability sensitivity off, so we're much closer to rate neutral, I would say. So if we did see some good benefit in the fourth quarter from the Fed cutting the 100 basis points that they did. I think there's less upside to future rate reductions for us to improve the margin. And, you know, so, as I mentioned, we're seeing 5 or 6 basis points improvement in Q2, and we'll just be working hard if the Fed cuts to manage our deposit costs down as quickly and as much as we can.

Damon DelMonte

Analyst

Got it. Okay.

Ned Handy

Analyst

But I don't think you'll see that. Yes, I don't think you'll see the expansion that we saw in the third and fourth quarter just because of the restructuring.

Damon DelMonte

Analyst

Got it. Okay. That's good. And then you guys had some good in-market core deposit growth this quarter. What kind of drove that and has there been a shift in approach to gathering local deposits or could you just provide a little color on that?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

Yes, so a couple of things. So we had good growth in the quarter, about half of that was a single relationship, so I'll put that out there. So the other half of it I think was just good, strong organic deposit growth kind of across the board. Ned mentioned that we've hired a couple of retail sales officers to kind of get out there and do a better, more targeted job of bringing in deposits. We're trying a few things on deposit promotion. I can tell you that deposit competition remains very intense. We tried a couple of promotions in the quarter up on both the CD and on the money market side and so a good deposit growth. So we'll see if we're able to maintain that.

Damon DelMonte

Analyst

Got it. Okay, great. That's all that I had for now. Thank you.

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst

Great. Thanks, Dan.

Ned Handy

Analyst

Thanks, Dan.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Laurie Hunsicker with the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Great. Hi, thanks. Good morning.

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Hi, Laurie.

Ned Handy

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Good morning, Laurie.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Just going back to expenses, so when in the quarter did the sale lease back happen?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Well, it happened in February and March.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Okay, so we really didn't see the drag back in. So when we think about it and we just sort of reiterated, obviously, similar guidance what you gave out last quarter, you're still thinking, you know, as we're looking at the core number here, the $35.8 million, that probably still jumps to about $37 million, even though things like no removal, et cetera, come out?

Ned Handy

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Yes. So, I think my guidance at year-end was for all other expense, which that would be in there, about $13.5 million a quarter. We were $13.3 in the first quarter, but the $13.5, I think, is a good estimate for the non-salary expense line.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Okay, and then what the $2.7 million, the other, other, was there anything non-recurring in that that compares to $2 million in the fourth quarter?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

You know, the other, other, you know, at year-end we had some, you know, accrual adjustments and, you know, there's, it's all other, right? So there's nothing notable going through there.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Okay. And then last question on our census here. You're still planning to make a charitable foundation contribution in the fourth quarter? Is that right?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Yes.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Okay. Just making sure I got that right. Okay. And then, just back to margin, and I know you've already touched on this, but do you have a spot margin for March?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

I do. Yes, for March it was $2.31.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

2.31%. Okay, great. And then going to credit, and I appreciate all the details you give, but can you just refresh us specifically on some of these office properties and then just help us think about the Class B that dropped from $10 million last quarter down to $7.6 million. Was that all charge-offs or did something cure or how should we think about that? And I guess specifically, you know, around the loans that I would love a refresh. I know you had a -- and these are numbers from last quarter, $7.8 million Class B that was 50% vacant. It was still performing. Is it -- you know, how do you think about that? You had a new non-performer that come up. Is that still planned to resolve in 2Q? You obviously had the $3.4 million Class B that was due this quarter. Was that where the charge-offs were? I mean, if you could just help us think about that. And then that last one, that big one, that $20.5 million lap, you know, any new news on that, any new appraisal, I think that's due in the fourth quarter unless there's been some restructuring movement. Just anything on those four properties would be super helpful?

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Yes. I'll turn it over to Bill. I mean, we did see a reduction, Laurie, and within non-accrual, it's one relationship that has two loans, that has three buildings in there. And so one of them has been under P&S, I think we talked about that on the call, that's about $3.3 million, I believe. It's still on track to settle, to close out in the second quarter. And we did take a charge off on the other loan that's secured by the two properties. So that's the only change quarter-over-quarter in the reported balances. But Bill, I'll just let you provide a little bit of color on the loans that we're talking about.

Bill Wray

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Sure, Ron. So as Ron said, about of that non-accrual, we again, it'll close when it closes, but we believe it is very likely that we'll get that knocked down by 3 point, about $3.3 million, and then we'll have the remaining non-accrual that's the other half of that relationship. And that is where the charge-off was. That was driven by an appraisal. It's being marketed for sale. We think it's at a reasonable level to be disposed, but we'll see when the offers come through. With regard to the large asset, that is over half lease now, just over half lease. There are active lease proposals in place. The borrower put a lot of money in, and as we mentioned before, to build out spec suites. So that seems to be getting them some momentum. So, and the borrower's been supportive all along. So again, we believe that's on the upswing and is in good shape and over time as these leases convert from LOI into signed leases, you know, we'd be reevaluating the classification on that. And then was there another property you had a question on?

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Yes, we’ll just on that $20.5 lap is that still due in the fourth quarter or is there any movement on extending that?

Bill Wray

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Let's see we did it we did two one-year extensions that went through 2026 as they put in a very significant amount of equity to do that. So I think if I'm moving it right, just to make sure this will be early 2026 when this comes back up.

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Bill, I think it's the end of 2026.

Bill Wray

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Okay. Yes, I'm sorry. Was reading that wrong.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

I’m sorry, but I’m hearing you guys with a lot of detailed questions. And Bill, just to go back to the one that you took the charge-off on, which loan was that? Was that the Class B office that was due this quarter?

Bill Wray

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Yes.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Okay, got you. And is that still, I mean, I had in my notes I was sitting around 70% vacant. Is that still the case or has that improved at all?

Bill Wray

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

It's 50%. And again, thankfully, through all these, they continue to pay. So they're still current, but it's 50% occupied at this point.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

So it's gotten better. Okay, okay that's great. I really, really appreciate the details there. And then Ned, just last question for you. You know with sort of earnings clarity, dividend coverage clarity, et cetera, really, really starting to shine and the fact now that your stock is 20%-plus lower than where you did the spot? How do you think about buybacks? How does the board think about buybacks? Thanks.

Ned Handy

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Yes, it's certainly something we need to think about and, you know, it goes to best use of capital. You know, we want to be careful about it as I think you know and, Ron, you should talk about the current state of approvals. I mean, I know we let the approval.

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Yes, so we don't have a plan currently in place, Laurie, but it is something that we're relooking at.

Laurie Hunsicker

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Okay, great. That's helpful. Thanks for taking my questions.

Ron Ohsberg

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Yes.

Ned Handy

Analyst · the company Seaport Research Partners. Laurie, your line is now open.

Thanks Laurie.

Operator

Operator

It sounds, there are no more questions registered in queue. [Operator Instructions] There are no more questions registered in queue. I would like to pass the conference over to our hosting team for closing remarks.

Ned Handy

Analyst

Well, thank you all for joining us. We appreciate your time and your interest and look forward to talking again soon. Have a great day everybody.

Operator

Operator

That will conclude today's conference call. Thank you for your participation and enjoy the rest of your day.