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WESCO International, Inc. (WCC)

Q4 2017 Earnings Call· Thu, Feb 1, 2018

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Christine and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Anixter Fourth Quarter 2017 Results Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Lisa Gregory, Vice President, Investor Relations, you may begin your conference.

Lisa Gregory

Analyst

Great. Thank you, Christine. Good morning and thank you for joining us today for our fourth quarter 2017 earnings call. This morning, Bob Eck, Chief Executive Officer; Bill Galvin, President and Chief Operating Officer; and Ted Dosch, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer, will review our fourth quarter financial results. Following their remarks, we will open the lines to take your questions. Before we begin, I want to remind everyone that we will be making forward-looking statements in today’s presentation, which are subject to a number of factors that could cause Anixter’s actual results to differ materially from what is indicated here. We do not undertake to update these statements and refer you to our SEC filings for more information. Today’s presentation includes both GAAP and non-GAAP financial results, the reconciliation of which is detailed in our earnings release and in the slides posted on our Investor Relations website. Now, I will turn the call over to Bob.

Bob Eck

Analyst

Thanks, Lisa. Good morning and thank you for joining us for our fourth quarter 2017 earnings call. In this morning’s call, I will provide an overview of our fourth quarter and full year financial results followed by brief comments on our outlook. Bill Galvin will then discuss sales results in greater detail. Finally, Ted will review our financial performance and provide additional thoughts on 2018, including a discussion of the expected impacts of corporate tax reform on our business. After Ted’s comments, we will take your questions. As you saw from this morning’s press release, we delivered fourth quarter 2017 GAAP earnings per diluted share of $0.01 that included the impact of the new tax legislation. On an adjusted basis, diluted earnings per share increased 8% to $1.41. Unless otherwise noted, all of our comparisons refer to the fourth quarter of 2017 versus the fourth quarter of 2016. Both the current quarter and prior year quarter had 62 billing days. Total company sales increased by 6.3% to a fourth quarter record of $2 billion. Adjusting for the favorable impacts of the higher price of copper and currency fluctuations, organic sales increased by 4.2%, which was above the 2.5% and 3.5% range we provided in our outlook for the quarter. On a sequential basis, fourth quarter average daily sales increased by 1.5%, a seasonally strong finish to the year. Sales growth was broad-based with reported growth in all three segments and all thee geographies. We are especially pleased with strong organic growth in our EES and UPS segments and our emerging markets and EMEA regions. Bill will provide more detail on our segment sales results and the trends we are seeing. Turning to the full year, we also delivered growth in all segments and all geographies, including double-digit organic sales growth…

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Thank you, Bob and good morning everyone. Beginning with the network and security solutions business, NSS quarterly sales of just over $1 million increased by 1%, adjusted for $11.6 million favorable impact of foreign exchange, NSS organic sales reflect modest growth and our security business offset modest decline in the network infrastructure reflecting a low with project spend in the market. Sequentially, sales increased by 0.3% on an organic basis. Looking at NSS by region, North American sales of $809 million declined 1.7% on an organic basis. We continued to experience a lower level of large capital projects in the market. However, strength in the day-to-day business and mid-sized project activity help us to close the gap. As we discussed in our Q2 and Q3 earnings calls, project billings were very strong in North America in 2016. Projects are beginning to move from our pipeline into our backlog giving us confidence that sales growth will accelerate as we move through 2018. Our EMEA geography delivered $93 million in sales which was a decline of 2.7% on an organic basis reflecting a lower level of projects and some fluctuations in project timing in the current year. For the full year we had an organic growth of 6.2% in our EMEA business, driven by strong growth in the Middle East and Continental Europe. Finally, emerging markets sales of $149 million increased 11.9% on an organic basis, driven by large projects in both our CALA and Asia Pacific geographies. While still challenging the Latin America geography overall is stabilizing and our trends continued to improve. The current quarter marks the fifth consecutive quarter of improving sales trends in Latin America. Looking at the security portion of the business, NSS security sales of $421 million or approximately 40% of segment sales increased 1.5% from…

Ted Dosch

Analyst

Thanks, Bill and good morning everyone. Before we move into the details, I want to remind you that today’s earnings release includes non-GAAP measures, which are reconciled to GAAP measures in the financial tables that accompany our release. We believe the non-GAAP we disclosed, which exclude non-cash expenses and other items provides the best representation of our ongoing operational performance. Each quarter we exclude intangible amortization and if applicable acquisition and integration costs from our non-GAAP results. I will begin with a summary of these expense items. Fourth quarter 2017 results include amortization and impairments of intangible assets and acquisition and integration costs which combined had a $16.2 million pre-tax and an $11.8 million after-tax impact. Additionally, net income includes $35.6 million of tax expense related to the recently passed tax legislation, which I will discuss in broader detail later in my remarks. Combined, the net income impact of these items was $47.4 million or $1.40 per diluted share. Prior year results included amortization of intangible assets and acquisition and integration costs, which combined had a pre-tax impact of $9.8 million and a net income impact of $7.6 million or $0.22 per diluted share. Excluding the impact of the above items, fourth quarter 2017 adjusted earnings per diluted share increased 8% to $1.41 compared to $1.31 in the year ago quarter. All of the following comments this morning, including year-over-year and sequential comparisons are based on continuing operations only and on an adjusted earnings basis. Turning to sales, our record quarterly sales increased 6.3% to $2 billion driven by growth in all segments and all geographies, adjusted for the $16.8 million favorable impact of higher average copper prices and the $22.5 million favorable impact of currency fluctuation, organic sales increased by 4.2% versus last year above our outlook range for…

Operator

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Your first question comes from the line of Luke Junk from Baird. Your line is open.

Luke Junk

Analyst

Good morning.

Bob Eck

Analyst

Good morning Luke.

Luke Junk

Analyst

Just bigger picture question on project activity first, just curious what’s you would say the normal mix of project business today is in NSS and EES, I guess the old rule of thumb is always thought was about 20% of revenues in a normal economy, curious does that still hold and I guess the things I would be thinking about would be one whether the NSS business has changed at all on the longer term basis given the rise of the cloud hyper skill datacenters, things of that nature. And then also on the wake of Tri-Ed and the Power Solutions acquisitions how those have impacted project mix as well?

Bob Eck

Analyst

So Luke, this is Bob. I will start and then I will turn it over to Bill. I think we have been moving off of an old model that honestly goes back probably 10 years where we used to say it was 80-20 and we have been saying the mix is a little more skewed towards projects than we used to say in the past, so we do think projects have a bigger impact on the business overall. It is a little different between EES and NSS. EES tends to be a little more project heavy in the industrial component, however that’s offset by the OEM part of the business which is programs that are contracted and consist revenue flow. So it’s also fair to say that Tri-Ed acquisition changed some of that mix. The Power Solutions acquisition did not materially change that mix. I will now let Bill give you an outlook on how project – how we think the project business is unfolding.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Yes. So we – the strength certainly last year within the mid-market, so what we would consider small to mid-size projects as well as the day-to-day flow. But as I mentioned in the comments, we are seeing significant strength building in NSS where project business going forward up 7% year-over-year. So although the natural mix of projects the day-to-day flow is going to say the same. We are just starting to see more activity now long-term for project buildings. So that’s why we were more encouraged by the outlook for NSS.

Bob Eck

Analyst

Yes. Look if I can just clarify one number Bill throughout, the 7% year-over-year is in reference to the level of NSS backlog at the end of January year-over-year as an indicator of continued improvement in that overall business.

Luke Junk

Analyst

Okay, that’s helpful. And then second, question on the margins side for you Bob, coming out of market downturn in the EES segment here, can you just speak to the current competitive dynamics in the context of rising copper prices, I know in past upturns you have talked about the idea of market clearing price of copper and just curious how the market clearing price of copper today is changing relative to what you are seeing in prices, are you seeing any sort of lag out there?

BobEck

Analyst

No, I think the lag is the same as it’s always been. We have said that from the market to clear on copper, because we aren’t selling copper, we are selling cable that copper is a component of. You have to flush through inventory and distribution, finished goods inventory and the manufacturers and with inventory and the manufacturers before you fully adjust. That works in kind of gradually. Having said that, there is variation by product set and so that’s why copper is a little bit difficult to estimate without knowing what the product mix is going to be. When we give you an outlook like Ted on copper we are assuming a consistent mix. If the mix shifts say to more instrumentation cable the copper impact reduces. If it shifted to more building wire, the copper impact would increase. So we are saying if we have pretty consistent mix that’s the impact we should see. And frankly how quickly, copper clears the market is also a function of products set. So building wire market tends to be copper sensitive on a day-to-day basis. Building wire is a still small percentage of our total mix, because commercial construction and residential is a very small percent of the mix of our EES business versus industrial. So I don’t think we would see any material change right now on how quickly we would expect copper to clear through our pricing.

Luke Junk

Analyst

Okay, helpful. Thank you very much.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Shawn Harrison from Longbow Research. Your line is open.

Shawn Harrison

Analyst

Hi, good morning.

Bob Eck

Analyst

Good morning, Shawn.

Shawn Harrison

Analyst

On the 2% to 5% organic growth for the year, I don’t want to put words in your mouth, but it appears that EES could be at or above maybe the high end and kind of the other segments and then maybe the middle part of the range, but maybe if you could bifurcate or I guess trifurcate that growth rate in between the different divisions as we think about 2018?

Bob Eck

Analyst

Yes. Great question Shawn, as I said in my comments, we believe that EES with the outlook and what we know right now would have the highest growth of the three segments this year followed by UPS and then third by NSS. So within NSS, having a relatively flat year last year having low single-digit growth there including the impacts of the pricing pressures in video cameras and some of the things like that we discussed, we think we will have volume growth much higher than that in NSS and still be able to deliver growth in that say 3% range or so in NSS as well. But I think you are right that the different segments will perform a little bit differently and part of that will come as a basis of the strength of the prior year comps that they will be comparing to like in the case of UPS, which has had a fabulous year this year with double digit growth for the full year and we will have little more difficult comps than the other two segments.

Shawn Harrison

Analyst

And then two follow-ups if I may kind of side into the NSS dynamic, how long does it typically take to get from backlog into actual billings. And then wanted to follow-up just on the $50 million win for the life of being in probably the decade of occurring you guys, I can’t remember at least such an announcement, but it’s obviously a big multi-year $50 million win is big news, so if you maybe talk about backlog and the billings and then also are there more these type of programs, this integrates supply chain solution available within NSS that you could come out over the next 12 months to 18 months?

Bob Eck

Analyst

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Shawn Harrison

Analyst

That’s helpful. Thanks Bob. I will jump back in the queue.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Kessler from Imperial Capital. Your line is open.

Jeff Kessler

Analyst

Thank you. With regard to the large contracts that you announced from UPS, is this the type of – is this the first of the large contracts that we have seen here, meaning is this the type of branding that can be done to if you get into this contract far enough that it can be used for other large as a reference point for other large contracts if you are going to indeed employ various parts of Anixter into that utility?

Bob Eck

Analyst

Yes. Jeff, let me clarify to start with. You said the large contract we announced in UPS, we didn’t announce one in UPS this quarter.

Jeff Kessler

Analyst

I mean I am sorry I misspoke.

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Alright. So are you referring to the UPS contract we announced last quarter or the NSS contract that Bob just spoke now.

Jeff Kessler

Analyst

I am talking about the UPS contract you announced last quarter?

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Okay. So on the heels of a little over a year ago announcing a very large contract win which was a complete win market share take that we talked at the time of being over $100 million incremental revenue, we now anniversary that and have actually exceeded those initial estimates for that customer would drive. So I think good evidence of the capabilities that we were able to bring to bear in the value we brought to that customer. The more recent one that we announced last quarter is smaller in scale, but similar and that we won the business entirely based on our supply chain capabilities. And we are able to take business there that had previously been served by distribution and are working with that customer on potentially taking some additional business that had been manufactured direct. So we…

Jeff Kessler

Analyst

What I am trying to find out is what is in your supply chain capabilities or some of them what I talked when I refer to multiplicity of services coming out of that, so what is in those supply chain capabilities that are you are being used to get these contracts and is how replicable is this – repeatable is this in the same type of negotiation with other types of large entities?

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Jeff this is Bill Galvin. So it’s similar to the large project that Bob mentioned on NSS. So the fact that we are going in and getting involved in the customer’s complex supply chain, working capital models, all the things that they are trying to do to reduce cost of their own infrastructure, that model is absolutely something that is replicable across multiple customers, multiple geographies, multiple segments. So, it’s something we have been talking about as one of the core pillars of the company that being able to take what works, which is supporting customer’s working capital needs and complexities around supply chain that we can take over that for them and they can show great efficiencies by doing that. So it is absolutely something that is scalable.

Jeff Kessler

Analyst

Okay. Finally, you have talked about in the couple of your divisions, lower vendor rebates, is this something that we are going to be seeing over the course of the year continue or has – or was this a function more or less of what happened in just that specific quarter? I realized that even in the case of video and in the case of video there is a problem out there with pricing still being low, but I am wondering if we are – it’s affecting other areas of the companies as well?

Bob Eck

Analyst

Yes, Jeff. Our reference to the lower vendor rebates, which impacted obviously the global consolidated numbers, was primarily driven from NSS with the difference being a 2016 that ended more positively with more year end volume growth than anticipated. So, we were able to achieve higher levels of vendor rebates in 2016. So for calendar year 2016, we had probably what would be a disproportion amount of that rebate in Q4, whereas this year the trend was just the opposite with a little weaker business in Q4 meant that we had some softness in those vendor rebates. So, on an annual basis in NSS, I would say there wasn’t significant difference in vendor rebates, but we accrued additional amounts in Q4 ’16 a little lower amounts in 2017. So, the year-over-year comparison in the quarter was a little more significant, but I don’t believe you should read into that any change from a commercial standpoint for the overall business going forward.

Jeff Kessler

Analyst

Okay. So essentially, if I can read you right here, there has been some equilibrium is getting back into the middle here?

Bob Eck

Analyst

Yes, I guess you can use that word. We don’t think it was out of equilibrium so to speak it was more just the timing of how the rebates were quarter-by-quarter.

Jeff Kessler

Analyst

Okay, great. Thank you very much.

Bob Eck

Analyst

Thanks.

Ted Dosch

Analyst

Thanks, Jeff.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Josh Pokrzywinski from Wolfe Research. Your line is open.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

Hi, good morning, guys.

Bob Eck

Analyst

Good morning, Josh.

Ted Dosch

Analyst

Good morning, Josh.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

I hopped on a bit late here. So I apologize if you answered the question or went over in your prepared remarks, but with CapEx deductibility now, I heard some of the comments around the NSS backlog being up 7%. It sounds like though the tone in Hamburg what’s going on is more small project than a large project. I guess maybe it takes time for things to get off the ground, but our customers coming to you wanting to talk about things that are bigger, do you have something like a front log that you can speak to – to maybe give us a sense on how that’s maybe filtered through or those conversations have changed and tax reform went through?

Ted Dosch

Analyst

Yes, specific to let’s talk about the EES and NSS segments, as we have said the project activity in larger projects in EES has been strengthening. So, we expect that to continue strong in Q4 coming into Q1, we expect that to continue. The NSS business has been the one where we felt the much less big large capital expenditure projects. However, as we said we are starting to see that activity free up as consumption now has really started to take this phase that was built out. So, we anticipate the project business to get stronger throughout the year in 2018 probably seeing us build in second, third quarter and on. Did that answer your question, Josh?

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

Would you characterize any of that as having a necessary linkage to tax reform or is that just what the economy is getting better and this is the natural extension of that conversation?

Ted Dosch

Analyst

Yes, I think Josh our best view of the market is that the combination of the two, but the connection to tax reform at this point in time is probably more anecdotal than something we could actually quantify. We certainly think it will help incentivize some additional capital spend, but I think we would be hard pressed like I said to put a number on. The other thing as Bill said I think this will primarily help in NSS EES space when it comes to the UPS space regulated utilities according to the new legislation cannot benefit by the accelerated depreciation. So, I would say in general we may not see the legislation directly driving increased CapEx in that segment of our business.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

Got it. That’s fair. So to the extent that some of these deductibility issues become more of a driver that could be incremental to what you are seeing today I think it seems like a fair assumption?

Ted Dosch

Analyst

Yes, I think it’s too early to say, but yes, we believe as I said based on more of the color commentary that it should be supportive of higher levels of spend, but I don’t think we should get out ahead of it.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

That’s fair. And then I guess I don’t recall the last time this might have come up in the deck or in the press release, but you did call out some competitive pressures on the margin side. I see that coincident with some project activity starting to pickup in an environment where more of the mix starts to shift that way and as you just said maybe you get some added gaps on the fire with tax reform down the road. Do you see some of that margin competition flaring up, particularly now with all your competitors as well probably have a bit of an umbrella with lower tax rate themselves to try to price through?

Bill Galvin

Analyst

Yes, I don’t think we certainly experience yet nor do we anticipate that the tax legislation in other words maybe putting more dollars in corporation’s pockets due to the lower rate being something that will contribute to margin pressure through pricing.

Ted Dosch

Analyst

Yes. I think it’s probably important we don’t believe that competitors will compete away the tax benefit and largely if you look at how management tends to get compensated, it’s of operating income, not after tax. And clearly in the field, it’s of gross profit and contribution margin in our organization and we know that’s pretty consistent across other organizations. So, taxes don’t really benefit management at all and so it’s not a sudden windfall to incentive comp and that I think will drive the same kind of pricing maybe the comparative pressure we think is just coming from frankly a softer project environment for a long time people get hung where they want to go grab some volume and so that creates a little more tension around some of the activity that’s out there. As the activity spikes up frankly some of that competitive pressure if anything may abate, but I think Ted’s comments about margin or probably the right way to look at it, we think the margin point we are at exiting Q4 is the right way to look at margin going forward, we don’t see that being competed away because of the tax change.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

Got it. That’s helpful. And then just maybe sneak one more in there, again I don’t know if this came up during the prepared remarks, but datacenter activity within NSS, how does that look, obviously I know there were chunk of different end markets in there, but anything you would like to share on that particularly in the U.S. how those were trending?

Bob Eck

Analyst

Yes, Josh. As we have said, the datacenter projects were slower in 2017 and we have seen previews. I think that we are starting to see large companies talking about investments globally on infrastructure. So, we expect that to be a more of a tailwind in ‘18 as the year goes on and we have visibility into large U.S. multinationals making investments into this year and further on.

Ted Dosch

Analyst

And when Bill says infrastructure you mean data infrastructure not sort of generic economic infrastructure.

Josh Pokrzywinski

Analyst

Got it. Perfect, thanks for the color guys.

Operator

Operator

Your final question comes from the line of Brian [indiscernible] from Morningstar. Your line is open.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Hey, guys. Good morning.

Bob Eck

Analyst

Good morning.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

So, your working capital management has been pretty impressive running in the low 18% as a percent of sales versus I think your long-term goal is less than 20%. So, can you just remind us what kind of initiative you have been successful in the near-term? And then if you see any opportunity for further improvement going forward?

Ted Dosch

Analyst

Yes, sure, Brian. Keep in mind that, that goal of working capital as a percent of sales to be less than 20% was a goal that we have set in the fourth quarter of 2015 on the heels of the Power Solutions acquisition. And one of the things that we knew was that as we integrated that business into ours that we did have significant opportunities for working capital improvement partially through process, partially through incentivizing with the right goals, for the right groups of people etcetera. And so what we realized over, I would say 2016 was I will say the low hanging fruits coming off the heels of that acquisition. However, in addition to that across all three of our segments, we have continued to drive a variety of initiatives across each of the buckets of working capital, including some things like supply chain financing initiatives, some inventory management process changes and system enhancements to help us better optimize each of the buckets of inventory between safety stock and in-transit and so forth. So I guess to second part of your question, we believe that where we are today first off is sustainable, but yes, we do believe there is opportunity for further improvement going forward. I would not suggest that it’s going to be another 200 basis points like going from 2018, but I think over the course of 2018 and ‘19, you will see us continue to make further improvement in the level of working capital.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst

Alright. Perfect. Thank you.

Bob Eck

Analyst

That concludes today’s call. If you have additional questions, please do not hesitate to reach out to Ted or Lisa. And as always, thank you for listening to us today.

Operator

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect.