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Q1 2025 Earnings Call· Mon, May 5, 2025

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Operator

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, greetings, and welcome to the Weave First Quarter 2025 Financial Results. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. It is now my pleasure to introduce our host, Mark McReynolds, Head of Investor Relations. Please go ahead.

Mark McReynolds

Analyst

Thank you, Zeco. Good afternoon, and welcome to Weave's first quarter 2025 earnings call. With me on today's call are Brett White, CEO; and Jason Christiansen, CFO. During the course of this conference call, we will make forward-looking statements regarding the anticipated performance of our business. These forward-looking statements are based on management's current views and expectations entail certain assumptions made as of today's date and are subject to various risks and uncertainties as described in our SEC filings. We've disclaimed any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements. Further, on today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP metrics that we believe aid in the understanding of our financial results. Unless otherwise noted, all numbers we talk about today will be on a non-GAAP basis. A reconciliation to comparable GAAP metrics can be found in today's earnings release, which is available on our website and as an exhibit to the Form 8-K furnished with the SEC before this call, as well as the Earnings Presentation on our Investor Relations website at investors.getweave.com. And with that, I will now turn the call over to Brett.

Brett White

Analyst

Thank you, Mark, and thanks to everyone joining us today. Before I get to our Q1 financial and business highlights, I'm excited to share that we have signed a definitive agreement to acquire TrueLark, an agentic AI-powered receptionist and front-desk automation platform. Together, we will unlock a future of intelligent autonomous workflows that reshape how healthcare practices operate, drive growth, connect with patients and thrive. Before diving into more detail about TrueLark, I'd like to briefly introduce Weave to those of you who may be new to our story. Weave is a patient engagement and payments platform built for small-and-medium sized healthcare practices. Our customers are skilled medical professionals, experts in healthcare, not business. Yet to succeed, they must attract new patients and sustain growth in increasingly competitive markets, retain the patients they already have with effective communication and improved in office interactions, create a workplace that attracts and retains talent amidst staffing shortages, and oversee operations and the financial health of their business. Practices are often left managing a fragmented mix of tools, with limited IT resources, making it hard to streamline operations or scale effectively. This technology sprawl creates friction, slows growth and pulls focus away from what matters most, caring for their patients. We've unified communication, scheduling, payments and reviews into a single easy-to-use platform. Built to scale from single-location practices to large multi-location groups, Weave offered centralized management, robust analytics and authorized integrations with over 85 practice management systems. Our proprietary VoIP platform lets teams communicate from anywhere with the practice's trusted phone number. We've also embedded payment requests into communication workflows, which accelerates cash collections and improves treatment plan acceptance with flexible payment options. We are focused on dental, optometry, veterinary and specialty medical practices, which is a high value segment of the SMB market.…

Jason Christiansen

Analyst

Thanks, Brett, and good afternoon, everyone. I'm pleased to join you today and look forward to connecting with many of you in the quarters ahead, as we continue building strong relationships across the investor community. I'll start by discussing our acquisition of TrueLark and provide additional color, on how it fits into our long-term financial picture. Weave acquired TrueLark for $35 million comprising $25 million in cash and $10 million in equity, and we will be filing a registration statement with the SEC to register the shares issued as part of the consideration. In addition to the purchase consideration, we have established performance based equity awards tied to revenue milestones for the next two years. We anticipate the transaction will close in Q2. I'm genuinely excited about what TrueLark brings to Weave, including a powerful AI native platform, a team with deep technical expertise and compelling customer validation, especially among larger multi-location healthcare organizations. TrueLark is a high growth business that is making significant progress with dental service organizations. The TrueLark team has been very scrappy with minimal go-to-market investment. As part of our integration strategy, we see a meaningful opportunity to extend TrueLark's reach in the single location and small group practices by leveraging our go to market engine. Additionally, we see an opportunity to expand the markets pay service and this puts another arrow in the quiver of our mid-market sales reps. We'll be making targeted investments across two key areas. The first is in R&D, which will be used to build additional TrueLark integrations with practice management systems, and to integrate with Weave. The second is in sales and marketing, which will increase awareness, drive demand and accelerate customer acquisition. Even with these additional investments, we anticipate TrueLark to be accretive to the bottom-line in 2026. I'm…

Operator

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Alex Sklar with Raymond James.

Alex Sklar

Analyst

Great. Thank you. Brett, maybe first one for you on TrueLark, a couple of parts to this question. But can you talk about how incremental that is to your existing bundles? I think I heard $10 billion TAM makes me think it's barely incremental there. Is there any existing customers already using it that kind of help you see the value prop there? And then what's kind of the cross-sell opportunity that TrueLark customer base that you don't have today?

Brett White

Analyst

Sure. So, we do have joint customers, which is one of the things that really excited us about it because we could really get a deep understanding of the value of the product. And the customers view this as a revenue driver that, it brings in, it automates the appointment booking and it helps with marketing and lead gen and follow-up on lead conversion, both when the office is open because significant number of calls into the practice go unanswered during the day. They leave voicemails and then there's follow-up where TrueLark can actually handle what they need to get done during the office. But it also does booking after hours. So, I think one of our favorite quotes from our due diligence was when we were talking to a joint customer, a very large DSO, and they said, well, if I went if there was some sort of calamitous economic situation and I went through my software spend, this would be the last software that I would cut because it absolutely brings them revenue. So, it's a very complementary, but incremental piece to our solution. So, we're just thrilled with how well it fits. And then the second on the cross-sell, so, TrueLark is a scrappy startup company and just they focus primarily on selling to large DSOs because they had to get -- they had to make the go to market investment work. So they sold primarily DSOs. They have very few single locations, which is the majority of our customers. So there is a terrific cross sell opportunity for us to bring this product to a market economically. And so, some of the investments we're making is frankly adding onboarding team members and adding sales resources to our upsell team so we can bring this product and totally incremental value to our customer base.

Alex Sklar

Analyst

Okay. Great color there. And then Jason, maybe a follow-up for you. You talked about, the record specialty medical quarter and the growth this year ex TrueLark and pricing expected to be up versus 2024. Are you already seeing that through Q1? I know we don't get location counts every quarter, but is that something you're already seeing there? Is that more so based on some of the hiring plans you have driving faster growth in the back half of the year? Where are we to date on that target?

Jason Christiansen

Analyst

Yes. Thanks, Alex. We had a strong Q1. On the medical side, it was a really great quarter. As Brett mentioned, this performed across several different specialties, largely driven by continued improvement in the integrations, as we continue to add integrations in that medical space. In terms of the overall growth, we continue to anticipate that, as we add the sales capacity and as those investments that we've talked about will continue to land that we anticipate seeing more improvements in the back half of the year.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Brent Bracelin with Piper Sandler.

Brent Bracelin

Analyst · Piper Sandler.

Thank you. Good afternoon. Brett, following up here on TrueLark, as you think about the monetization pricing opportunity, maybe walk through how is the product priced today, if it is driving kind of ROI, is it on a subscription basis, is it a consumption or transactional kind of pricing model. Walk us through a little bit more around pricing as we think about taking that and cross selling into the installed base?

Brett White

Analyst · Piper Sandler.

Yes. Thanks Brent. I'll take that one. Today, they're largely sold on a per location basis or on a per contract basis. And we think that there's an opportunity to evaluate that, especially as we look at new workflows, how that integrates into our customer base and integrates in with our product. And we to maybe put some context to the opportunity that we see and how that fits in with our overall pricing strategy. The TAM -- the shift in TAM previously we reported our U.S. TAM at $7.1 billion. And today we announced that with the acquisition of TrueLark that U. S. based TAM is about $10 billion.

Jason Christiansen

Analyst · Piper Sandler.

Yes. Just a couple of things. So Brent to answer the question, they are subscription contracts. Another thing that was very attractive to us is customers generally will run a pilot, and then they'll sign an annual or even multi-year contracts. So customers are pretty confident with the ROI, when they sign up for the product. And another -- Jason mentioned the TAM, another thing that's very interesting is we've actually gotten interest when TrueLark was just a partner, we got interest internationally from bringing this type of solution to market outside the U.S. So I think that there's additional opportunity there that we're pretty excited about.

Brent Bracelin

Analyst · Piper Sandler.

Congrats on the first build buy kind of decision accelerating the roadmap, certainly interesting. My last question is just around maybe the pipeline, the activity around new business. Obviously, the world is changing. There's a lot of dynamics out there that small businesses are nervous about. Walk us through how resilient the pipeline has been so far for you guys, as you think about going into April here, early May, what are you seeing from a pipeline build perspective?

Brett White

Analyst · Piper Sandler.

Yes. Now, I'm going to knock on my wooden table here. Fortunately, our market, and our products have been quite resilient to economic challenges, and we certainly have not seen a degradation in what I would call our leading indicators, lead flow, inbound interest, pipeline, that -- We have a relatively short sales cycle, so really the big pipeline build comes in multi-location space, and that's growing. But what's really exciting is by bringing, TrueLark into the product portfolio, we can start, we can lead with an absolutely proven out revenue generation positive ROI product and get the customer started on that, if they just want to start there. We have the revenue generation and efficiency tool that Weave has always had plus we have this new revenue generation efficiency tool through TrueLark. So, I think it really helps, our pitch and our market space. And it's just so easy to prove the ROI that, we're quite excited and really haven't seen any type of degradation, I would say, on the pipeline or on the macro side.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Parker Lane with Stifel.

Parker Lane

Analyst · Stifel.

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. Sticking here with TrueLark. Brett, when you guys did the diligence process here, I was just wondering if you could comment on what you saw from a competitive standpoint, how early you feel like we are in this agentic AI opportunity for the types of businesses you work with and if there's any other companies out there that are really attempting to do this or if this is a situation where you found yourself at the front of the line?

Brett White

Analyst · Stifel.

Yes. So we've been looking at this for a while. We've got a pretty clear three year vision on what our product roadmap looks like and what our solution set should be and could be. So we've been looking at these types of businesses. I think we've probably looked pretty deep at 20 or more. And the thing that really struck us about the TrueLark business is just the fact that, it worked so well. The customers were really positive on the ROI. They have a very nice customer list of large organizations, DSOs. And so, with multi-year contracts and these contracts scale over time and it's just a proven solution. It just works. It gets the job done. And so, that's the most impressive part for us, was the customer base and the fact that, they raved about it and it actually solves the problem. There are lots of, I would say, companies, products out there, that are really cool looking, but they just didn't have the traction and the footprint and the established pattern of success that TrueLark had. So, we're very excited about what we've got here. And the other thing I think that was quite exciting for us on a competitive front of the 20 plus companies that we looked at was the leadership team. These are very, very experienced AI folks going back to ML learning researchers from Microsoft and so they've got a long period of time. They've got a lot of learnings in the industry that we're in. You can always spin up a product and put it on top of ChatGPT and make it look good. But, solving real customer problems because you just -- when it comes to booking, you just can't get it wrong. And so, having their deep experience, having them learn the hard way about how these businesses work, was incredibly and is incredibly valuable to us.

Parker Lane

Analyst · Stifel.

Got it. Thanks for the feedback there. And just a follow-up on the customer relationships they already have. You mentioned that, this could be applicable to all the different sub-verticals you work with longer-term. It sounds like maybe dental is where they've gotten some of the bigger customer relationships. But I also see beauty and wellness and fitness on their website. Is there potentially an opportunity for you to go deeper with some of those sub-verticals that they have brought to the table that you don't currently address?

Brett White

Analyst · Stifel.

Yes, absolutely. So they've done real well in MedSpa. And MedSpa is -- we've had we have had a couple of great quarters in MedSpa as well. So we consider MedSpa specialty medical. They've done well there. They're in dental, but you're right. They also have had fitness. Basically, their footprint works really well in appointment based businesses, both single location and multi-location, which is where our platform works well as well. So I could definitely see us taking Weave, our kind of our Weave quarter platform into verticals where they currently are through their TrueLark relationships.

Operator

Operator

The next question comes from Michael Funk with Bank of America.

Michael Funk

Analyst · Bank of America.

Yes. Thank you for the questions tonight. So you mentioned in ordering a script, success you've seen in specialty medical, MedSpa and plastic surgery. Can you just emphasize, which verticals you've seen the greatest penetration in over time? I know originally Dental was one you're very early success with. So where are we in penetration of the verticals? And then related question, which of the verticals do you think is most economically sensitive? So based on your macro viewpoint, which ones would be most affected by a either macro downturn or improvement?

Jason Christiansen

Analyst · Bank of America.

Yes. Thank you for the question. Overall, we are less than 15% penetrated in all of the verticals that we service. Even back to our S-1 when we IPO, we indicated that optometry is where we were probably the most saturated. If you think about length of time in the different markets. Dental, we've been in for longer. Those two would be our highest market saturation, but there's still plenty of room in each of those markets for us to grow. And to the question of sensitivity, I think, that's wherever there's markets with discretionary spend. And so, when you think about the businesses that have more luxury tags to them, or elective elements to them, those are the areas that we see can have some struggles. Now the fortunate thing is the vast majority of the businesses that we're in, the vast majority of our customers are not really that elective and where our existing installed base is. So fortunately, we're not seeing a lot of headwind at this point, or really any headwind associated with the macro. But if we were to see it, it would be in those elective areas.

Brett White

Analyst · Bank of America.

Yes. So, maybe, you know, I think as Jason said, dental would be our most penetrated. I think we're just north of 10% there. Specialty medical, we're still what sub 1%. That is a really, really big space. And although we've got a lot of growth there, we're still very early stages when it comes to penetration. I think it's like 22 or so sub-verticals in there. So we have tons of runway. But dental is the most penetrated and, especially medical is the least penetrated. I'm going to answer the other question a little bit backwards. What we have seen through multiple economic evolutions is that, the core space where we are in, dental, optometry, veterinary and then the specialty medical segments, where we're focused right now are actually have proven to be quite resilient. And a strange here's a strange fact. So I've been in, my prior role was in a wellness software company, and we thought that during the Great Recession and then during COVID that, the pullback would happen in the places, where they had big ticket items and it was most discretionary. So cosmetics, plastics, and it turns out, when times get tough, people still spend money on that stuff. So, I'm not really concerned about some of the mere fact that, something is optional, a service is optional, is necessarily an outsized risk to the business because, when folks lose their jobs, they may give up on the Caribbean vacation, but they're not going to give up on some of their other elective, activities. So, that would that would be my answer.

Michael Funk

Analyst · Bank of America.

That's great. Thank you so much for all the color on that. And really quickly, one more if I could. So it seems you really dialed in the go-to-market, the last couple of years at least and, we're working very well. Are there further refinements or changes planned where you think that you can either bring down the customer acquisition cost or increase the velocity or gross ads going forward?

Brett White

Analyst · Bank of America.

The answer to both of those is, yes. So, I personally just don't believe that any part of our business cannot be improved. And that's really a mindset we have around here. So, our go-to-market leadership is always trying to figure out new ways to scale the business, new ways to reduce CAC, new ways to create additional leverage. And one of the things we've done recently is, we've stood up this mid-market team. We've got a -- we've totally -- we've changed the profile of the folks who are on that team and that's starting to see really good traction. We had a good quarter, in our mid-market segment in bookings. But, the answer is we're never satisfied. We're always, experimenting, trying new things. I'm really excited about what the TrueLark opportunity brings to us, because it really adds a new type of product that we can bring to our customers that solves a different type of problem that actually brings revenue into their business, and it can be sold into our installed base through, through our existing team. So it really just further, enhances or develops our opportunity to be a true trusted partner to our customers as opposed to just a software vendor.

Operator

Operator

Our next question comes from Mark Schappel with Loop Capital Markets.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Loop Capital Markets.

Thank you for taking our questions. I guess my question is regarding the payment solution. Could you talk about the attach rate that you're seeing from that business and whether it's increasing meaningfully?

Brett White

Analyst · Loop Capital Markets.

Yes. So, up to this point, we haven't provided a breakout of our payments business, until we're required to. We won't do that. Now what I will share is that, we do continue to see increase in our attachment. It's still less than 10%. It makes up less than 10% of our revenue. And once we cross that threshold, we'll be able to provide more color and clarity. But, it continues to grow faster than overall revenue, and the attach rate continues to improve within our customer base. And there's still a lot of room for us to grow in that area. We look forward to the day when, we do cross the 10% threshold.

Jason Christiansen

Analyst · Loop Capital Markets.

I would just add, we are, I think, meaningfully underpenetrated relative to the opportunity we have. And we are all hands on deck on building the payments functionality into the communications workflow and then integrating that back into the various practice management software. And again, here's another place where TrueLark really helps us, because they also can automate payments transactions. So we're super excited about the opportunity. I think we mentioned -- we did mentioned our commentary that we had a very strong revenue growth quarter in Q1 in payments and we're just going to continue to be heads down on that.

Unidentified Analyst

Analyst · Loop Capital Markets.

Okay. Thank you. And I guess sticking on that, since you guys mentioned that, it's a relatively small part of percentage of revenue, I think you said below 10%. How high do you think that percentage can get, as you continue to execute on opportunity?

Jason Christiansen

Analyst · Loop Capital Markets.

Let me I think. I think it can be much, much, a much larger part of our business without question. I probably shouldn't say too much. But, we're definitely not even close to being anywhere satisfied with our current, percentage of revenue. And, you know, I think we can definitely get it well north of 10%, and, I think we have the opportunity to make it actually significant larger than that.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to Brett White, CEO, for closing remarks.

Brett White

Analyst

Thank you all for joining the call, and thank you again to the Weave team, and welcome to the TrueLark team. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation.