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WEX Inc. (WEX)

Q4 2012 Earnings Call· Wed, Feb 6, 2013

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Operator

Operator

Good morning. My name is Dawn, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the WEX, Inc. fourth quarter 2012 financial results conference call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speaker’s remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. (Operator instructions). Thank you. Mr. Steve Elder, you may begin your conference, sir.

Steve Elder

Management

Good morning. With me today is our CEO, Mike Dubyak. The press release we issued earlier this morning is posted in the Investor Relations section of our website at wexinc.com. A copy of the release has also been included in an 8-K we submitted to the SEC. As a reminder, we will be discussing a non-GAAP metric, specifically adjusted net income during our call. For this year’s fourth quarter, adjusted net income excludes the amortization of purchases intangible assets, goodwill impairment, asset impairment, and other charges, related to the acquisition of Fleet One. The net impact of tax rate changes on the company’s deferred tax asset, and related changes in the tax receivable agreement, including the formal shareholder of RG Card Holdings, Australia. Please see Exhibit 1 included in the press release for an explanation and reconciliation of adjusted net income to GAAP net income. I would also like to remind you that we will discuss forward-looking statements under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Actual results may differ materially from those forward-looking statements as a result of various factors, including those discussed in our press release, the risk factors identified, and exhibit 99.2 to our current report on Form 10-K, furnished to the SEC on January 22, 2013, and other SEC filings. While we may update forward-looking statements in the future, we disclaim any obligations to do so. You should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements, all of which speak only as of today. With that, I’ll turn the call over to Mike Dubyak.

Mike Dubyak

Management

Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us. Earlier today we reported our results for the fourth quarter and full-year of 2012. For the fourth quarter, both revenue and adjust net income came in at the top end of our guidance range. Q4 revenue increased 21% to $169 million, and an adjusted net income increased 9% to $1.07. This resulted in a full-year revenue growth of 13% and adjusted net income growth of 12% for 2012. In 2012, we made significant strides in executing against our multi-pronged strategy of expanding our U.S. Fleet business, diversifying our revenue stream, and further developing our international business. The progress we made over the last 12 months set the stage for continued strong revenue growth for our business in 2013. As we think about the upcoming year and driving the next phase of our company’s development, we see a number of opportunities across our business, including global prospects for our successful Virtual Card product . With the track record of making investments that have yielded impressive results, we plan to make meaningful, strategic investments to maximize the potential of our businesses. As a result, 2013 will be an investment year, as we plant the seeds for our long-term growth, as well as to advance our competitive position. Before I provide more detail in those investments, let me quickly review our results for 2012. Looking at our Fleet Payment segment, we achieved strong revenue growth of 20% during the fourth quarter, driven by the acquisition of Fleet One and new vehicle signings. Consolidated payment processing transactions, increased 16% in Q4. Excluding the impact of Fleet One, we also posted solid results with vehicle growth up 6% and payment processing transactions growth up 7% year-over-year. With respect to our U.S. fleet business, same-store sales remain soft…

Steve Elder

Management

Thank you Mike. For the fourth quarter of 2012, we reported total revenue of $169 million, an increase of $29 million from the prior year period, and at the high end of our guidance range of 162 to $169 million. This performance was driven primarily by strong growth from our virtual card product and the acquisition of Fleet One. Net income to common shareholders on a GAAP basis for the fourth quarter, was $29.1 million or $0.74 per diluted share. Our non-GAAP adjusted net income increased to $41.8 million or $1.07 per diluted share. This compares to $0.98 per diluted share reported in Q4 last year, on an adjusted net income basis. For the full-year 2012, revenue increased 13% to $623 million from $553 million in 2011. On a GAAP basis, net income was $2.48 per diluted share in 2012 compared to $3.43 per diluted share in 2011. On an adjusted net income basis, earnings increased 12% to $4.06 per-share from $3.64 per-share last year. Our key performance metric for the fourth quarter were very much affected by the acquisition of Fleet One, which was completed on October 4. Given that Fleet One will be integrated with our U.S. Fleet business, our performance metrics going forward will be reported on a consolidated basis. For this quarter, however, I will discuss the metrics both as they will be reported going forward, as well as excluding the acquisition of Fleet One for comparative purposes. Consolidated fuel transactions increased 12.1% over the prior year. Consolidated payment processing transactions increased 15.7% over the prior year, primarily due to the acquisition of Fleet One. Excluding Fleet One, we had a growth rate of 7%. The consolidated net payment processing rate for Q4 2012, was 1.4%, which was down 26 basis points versus Q4 2011, and…

Operator

Operator

(Operator instructions). Your first question comes from the line of Sanjay Sakhrini with KBW. Sanjay Sakhrini – KBW: Thank you. Good morning. I just had a question on the opportunities you discussed globally. I mean, it sounds like a lot of them are on the organic side of the Viak acquisition. Is that right? That’s kind of what’s assumed in your guidance?

Mike Dubyak

Management

Yes. I mean in terms of the virtual card in particular, at this point we’re saying that we’re just moving into these countries. We’re going to use our bank whenever we can to issue, and then do the compliance work, stand up some operations where necessary, and also put in sales organizations. Now, if we can find an opportunity to accelerate kind of the presence and the growth if it’s a JV or an acquisition, we will clearly look at that. But at this point we’re saying it’s based on just going into those countries ourselves and standing up the operations and the necessary compliance parts. Sanjay Sakhrini – KBW: Okay. And then, is it possible to just size what that investment spend is in 2013? And maybe talk about what drives the confidence that we’ll see revenue starting 2014?

Mike Dubyak

Management

We haven’t been specific. I think you can imagine that some of that is one time to do the compliance and maybe standup some of the operations, but over time you’ll still have ongoing operations and ongoing sales forces, and there maybe additional countries where identifying the countries we’re going to be focusing on in 2013, and there will be additional countries over time. We’ve done the work, we know we can get into some of these areas where there’s expanding OTA operations. And we also know it’s going to help some of our international partners with their OTAs. But we haven’t been specific, but it’s a big piece of our reinvestment for 2013. Sanjay Sakhrini – KBW: So as we go along, I mean, is it fair to assume that you guys will kind of talk about these onetime costs? Because you also talk about platform integration and stuff. I mean, it would seem to me like some of that stuff is kind of one time, but it’s embedded in your guidance. Will you try to kind of highlight those as we go along?

Mike Dubyak

Management

I think where it’s appropriate we’ll do that as we go through next year. Sanjay Sakhrini – KBW: Okay, great. And then just two data point questions Steve. The step-up in interest expense from the bond deal, I mean, I would assume you’re going to pay down the revolver’s account. What is the net step-up in interest expense? And then, also if you could just talk about how the ConocoPhilips is? I’m kind of thinking of the marathon deal, thank you.

Steve Elder

Management

On the bond interest, we placed $400 million worth of notes. We had just a little bit over $300 million on our revolving line of credit at the time we did it. So, we actually have a bit of a cash balance as of today. As of yesterday, I think it was just a bit under $100 million. So, in terms of the incremental cost, really if you stay with the $300 million on the revolver that we paid down, the interest rate differential on that is, you know, essentially we are [inaudible] close to 175 basis points, so call it 2% in round numbers going to 4.75%. So that will cost you a little over $8 million annually. And then the other $100 million that’s, you know, really sitting in cash, you know, with the interest rate environment today that’s, you know, we’re not going to earn much on that, so that’s another $4.75 million. Sanjay Sakhrini – KBW: Okay.

Steve Elder

Management

In addition, you know, we mentioned pro forma for the deal, that would put our leverage at 2.3x, so we are assuming that, you know, we have a term loan, and we have bonds outstanding, so we have limited ability to reduce the debt levels. So, we’re assuming our leverage is going to stay above 2.25x which will add in some extra cost to our bank facility as well, compared to where we were at the end of the year. And then, just – the last part of it is just all the fees and, you know, legal fees and placement fees and all that to get all this done. Sanjay Sakhrini – KBW: Okay. And then ConocoPhillips?

Steve Elder

Management

Yeah, I mean, these are, you know, I would say great private label wins to have. I mean, we’ve made a practice of really not describing exactly [inaudible]. Sanjay Sakhrini – KBW: Okay, great. Thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Bob Napoli with William Blair. Bob Napoli – William Blair: Thank you very much. The – I’m trying to understand a little bit more on the investment and – should we see – how much are you increasing sale, I guess, compensation expense sales reps in your guidance? Is that – or are we going to see most of the step-up I guess, Mike, Steve, in the compensation expense line?

Mike Dubyak

Management

Yes, most of the expense you’re going to see, especially the sale rep increases are going to show up on the salary line. There’s clearly salaries in there for the virtual card. I mentioned some of the compliance and some of the other things we have to do, and over time as we stand up operations there’ll be other cost associated. But most of it I think is going to show up in the salary line. You know, were increasing – because we see the performance, you know, in UNIK, in CorporatePay, in RapidPay cards, so we’re seeing great performance, and in some cases we’re doubling the sales force. So, that will spread out over the year, but you won’t see the impact until next year on the return on some of those. But we are getting aggressive there beyond even the virtual card entry into some of these markets. Bob Napoli – William Blair: How fast is UNIK growing?

Steve Elder

Management

There coming up, you know, relatively small numbers, and so they’re growing at, you know, a pretty hefty pace. But it’s just the fact that it’s, you know, it’s still small so it’s not having an out size impact in our EPS right now. Bob Napoli – William Blair: The revenue is – can you give us the revenue number?

Steve Elder

Management

It was about $4 to $5 million in the fourth quarter. Bob Napoli – William Blair: Okay, in the fourth quarter, okay. And then, just if I could get a little more clarity on PaySpan if you could, and kind of the ramp up and the rate of ramp up on the PaySpan card. You know, are things – [inaudible] you started in October, how quickly has that been ramping up? Is at least one billion still the right number, or are you feeling more or less confident on that?

Mike Dubyak

Management

Well I think in terms of expectations were – probably fair to say we’re staying with the number we gave you before. So, the billion is kind of the range of what’s in there. They’re clearly working with us, we have a great relationship. We know this is a great opportunity for us. It’s a matter of how fast does it roll out this year. They’re starting with some of their smaller providers and partners, and then will as the year goes on start to market to some of the larger ones. So, that’s why it’s more back end loaded. And again, it’s just a matter of timing I think on a lot of that. We’re getting more transparency working them, but we still have to see how this plays out over time. But again, even if there’s some slippage this year, we still feel very confident about the long-term impact of PaySpan. Bob Napoli – William Blair: And then on Fleet One, are we going to see – I guess and in your Fleet business, are we going to see a significant step down in margins in that segment in 2013 before seeing a significant ramp up in ’14 as you integrate? Is that the right way to think about that, and if so, could you give some collar around the numbers?

Steve Elder

Management

Sure. We’ve said, you know, when we announced the acquisition that their margins are somewhat below ours on an operating basis. So, that will average in clearly, and bring our margins down somewhat. In addition, you know, we mentioned the $5 to $6 million of integration costs that we’re going to incur next year, or this year I should say. That will obviously, you know, bring margins in that segment down as well. And once we get the – hopefully the majority of the integration activities done, and get those expenses behind us, you should see margins come right back to where we’ve been accustomed to seeing them. Bob Napoli – William Blair: Now $5 to $6 million, Steve, is that primarily first quarter, or…

Steve Elder

Management

No, I’d say it’s not primarily first quarter, but it is spread throughout the year. Bob Napoli – William Blair: Thank you.

Steve Elder

Management

You’re welcome.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Greg Smith with [inaudible]. Greg Smith – Sterne Agee: Just on PaySpan, just wondering if – I know you have limited experience so far, but has there been any push back on the paying of Interchange for somebody that wasn’t paying it previously? Mike Dubyak – Chairman, President and CEO: I don’t know if I have enough visibility there. I mean, we know they’re going to have some resistance, that’s why they are not saying that all of their business will convert. But they also know there’s area where they think the value proposition is strong enough that they will get conversions. So, you know, in some cases that’s going to be the case. We know that going in, but I don’t think we’re seeing anything more than we expected going in at this point. It’s just the way they’re playing it out with their customer base, I think they’re really going to go after the larger ones as the year plays out, and that’s why it’s back end loaded. Greg Smith – Sterne Agee: Yeah, okay. And then just – I guess Steve, as we think about Fleet One and the numbers, I think the impact is sort of obvious, they have a much larger transaction size, but a lower discount rate, is that the right assumption? Steve Elder – SVP and CFO: That’s exactly right. On an over-the-road transaction, you know, you talk about gallons in excess of a hundred, so yes, it’s a much bigger transaction. And, you know, because of that it’s a lower fee to the merchant. Greg Smith – Sterne Agee: Yes, okay. And do you guys have any large – just large Fleet renewals this year that are, you know, we should be watching closely…

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Julio Quinteros with Goldman Sachs. Julio Quinteros (Roman) – Goldman Sachs: Hi, it's Roman [Inaudible] for Julio. Thanks for taking the questions. First to follow up on the integration efforts and the additional expenses. Can you maybe help us think through – I know you said it's going to be spread out over the year, but will some of these expenses or most expenses done in the first half so that we can even start seeing some benefit at least from the integration efforts in the back half of the year? Or is this purely a 2014 benefit scenario?

Mike Dubyak

Management

I wouldn’t say purely 2014. I think we've got a multi-year plan to integrate this business fully. Obviously, we'd like to make it as rapid as possible as everyone who's living through this day-to-day wants to do that. I would not characterize it necessarily as the expenses of integration being first half loaded or anything like that. I would say it's pretty much at least through the year. And we'll start seeing incremental benefits as we start completing projects. Julio Quinteros (Roman) – Goldman Sachs: Okay, and on the M&A pipeline, it just felt like your commentary perhaps – we understand you have the capacity and that there's nothing imminent in the short term. Is that a statement on the pipeline, so less attractive than perhaps what you saw back half of last year? Or just help us think how that's changed.

Mike Dubyak

Management

Yeah, there's still opportunities in the pipeline. But there's nothing large. And I think we're looking at opportunities both internationally and domestically. But there's nothing like a Fleet One that's imminent. There are some others that would be considered tuck-ins that we're looking at and then some others that could materialize over time. So it's different stages in the pipeline, but at least what's imminent, there's nothing large. Julio Quinteros (Roman) – Goldman Sachs: Okay, and we'll ask one on the other payment solutions. Any commentary on volume there? I know there's multiple puts and takes there. But could you guys provide a guidance on the volume?

Mike Dubyak

Management

We obviously didn’t provide anything specific. I think we would say that it's obviously the faster growing part of the business. And we will probably be looking for something in the 20% plus range. Julio Quinteros (Roman) – Goldman Sachs: Got it, thank you.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tien-Tsin Huang with J.P. Morgan. Tien-Tsin Huang – JP Morgan: Hi, great, thanks. Just wanted to – I think Mike, you mentioned that some of these countries you feel are hurdles. I'm sure diligence has historically been great. Can you elaborate on that? Is that just less competition, Greenfield? Or just trying to understand what gives you that confidence to make that comment.

Mike Dubyak

Management

I think a lot of it is compliance. So it's not to say we aren't looking at those that are tougher on compliance, but they are probably not going to be a 2013 event. So as I said, there's going to be more countries over time. But I think we're at least using that criteria, what's the barriers to entry. A lot of that's being compliance using our bank. But also where do we need to satisfy those international players? And where is their growth on OTA? So I think we're looking at all of that. And it again, doesn’t mean that we're not working the others. But that's why it's going to be staged. Tien-Tsin Huang – JP Morgan: Understood, now it sounded like – I mean I think on the organic really makes sense. But you sort of left it open that you could do an acquisition. So is this stuff to buy to accomplish what you could accomplish based on your diligence? And to the extent that you do some of these deals, could your investment spending therefore be lower if you were to do that?

Mike Dubyak

Management

I don’t think that's the case. I don’t think there's a lot of assets. But I do think there's opportunities for JVs that could help accelerate I think growth more than anything else. I think standing up some of these areas, it's not like you go in and find somebody who's in that country necessarily whose doing what we do today. We'll still look. But at this point, we're not anticipating that. I think it would be more on the acceleration of growth. Tien-Tsin Huang – JP Morgan: Okay, yes, it sounds like it's Greenfield, so just got to be there to win. That makes sense. Just on the EPS and activity side, now that you're sort of I guess 40% un-hedged here, what's the latest and greatest EPS sensitivity now to a $0.10 change in spot fuel prices?

Mike Dubyak

Management

The $0.10 change in fuel prices is about $8.7 million worth of revenue annually. And that depending on revenue, excuse me, depending on loss rates and interest rates, somewhere around 90% of that will fall to operating income. And that's what we try to hedge the 60% of. Tien-Tsin Huang – JP Morgan: Do we need to contemplate more in the way of diesel mix with Fleet one?

Mike Dubyak

Management

Yeah, that's a great question because when you look at the prices that we gave in our guidance, a little bit higher than you might have seen normally. And that is because of the diesel mix. With Fleet One lumped in or combined in, that would make the mix about 60/40. So about 60% gasoline and 40% diesel, so about a 10% shift from where we were before. Tien-Tsin Huang – JP Morgan: Okay, understood, and so last question. So the same theme around the discount rate 161. Is that fourth quarter? You gave 161 I think excluding Fleet One. Is that sort of a good base to work from given your spot fuel outlook?

Mike Dubyak

Management

Yeah, I mean the sensitivity with the transaction fees that are embedded in there and how the rate will move down with fuel prices. But yes, it's a pretty solid rate. Tien-Tsin Huang – JP Morgan: Okay, terrific, thanks for the details.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Tom McCrohan with Janney. Tom McCrohan – Janney Capital Markets: Yes, hi everyone. If you took out the royalty related investments and I guess investments from the data center, I'm sure you would characterize that as a growth investment. You put those investments in 2013 and put them aside, was the only real headwind going for 2013 incremental interest expense the $15 million and the $5 million I guess integration expense related to Fleet One?

Mike Dubyak

Management

Yeah, I think as said another way, Tom, if I add back the excess bond interest, the integration expenses and what we're planning on for virtual card costs to globalize that, would we be within consensus range? The answer is absolutely. There's nothing [inaudible] that we're expecting a very strong year. We're taking what is a very strong business model and trying to reinvest money back into it to keep that strength over the long term. Tom McCrohan – Janney Capital Markets: And if I heard you correctly, the investments in those initiatives does not just pertain to 2013. This is a multi-year effort.

Mike Dubyak

Management

At least a lot of it will be because if we're increasing sales reps, if we're putting sales reps in countries, that's going to be ongoing. It's just that when you increase those sales reps as we're doing this year say at unique and corporate pay and rapid, you're not going to see the results until next year. And then hopefully next year, we may reinvest and put more reps if we have the right coverage models to continue doing that. But you'll at least start to get the results of what we put in place this year. So we haven't decided what to reinvest next year. But at least it will start to pay off on the investments we're making this year with those sales reps and the additional people we're putting against the virtual card. Tom McCrohan – Janney Capital Markets: Okay, great. And Mike, is it possible just to break out the investments between those that are intended to accelerate top line revenue growth versus others that will improve operational efficiencies such as the data center?

Mike Dubyak

Management

I would say by far, the predominant number is against growth. If it's the virtual card or if it's more sales reps that corporate pay are unique or rapid, all of that is towards growth. The data center I mean clearly has the CapEx piece. There's some expense, but nothing near the CapEx piece.

Steve Elder

Management

It's actually a pretty minimal expense next year. There's some headcount and some space that we're going to rent for the actual facility. But overall, that's relatively minor compared to the other things we're talking about. Tom McCrohan – Janney Capital Markets: Is there a certain type of top line revenue growth that you folks have in mind that you're trying to achieve?

Mike Dubyak

Management

No, I would just say we clearly are showing strong revenue growth this year. We're saying we see opportunities to build on that. So I don’t think we're going to start talking about 2014 yet. But clearly, we're bullish in terms of what we're putting in place this year on the revenue side and what we see as opportunities to kind of meet these and hit these windows of opportunities for future growth. Tom McCrohan – Janney Capital Markets: Okay, great. Congratulations, you have a lot going on, a lot of good opportunities. Thanks for taking the questions.

Mike Dubyak

Management

Yeah, thank you.

Steve Elder

Management

Thank you, Tom.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of David Togut with Evercore Partners. David Togut– Evercore Partners: Thank you. Two questions, and there have been a couple of earlier questions around this. But could you help me quantify the cost of your global expansion for Virtual Card in 2014 and beyond? And what I'm really trying to understand is sort of what's the business case in terms of the potential earnings impact longer term or however you measure it, IRR? But if '13 is an investment year, what should we expect for '14 and beyond?

Mike Dubyak

Management

The only think I'll say is the majority of the investment is on the Virtual Card side. I think we've identified in the prepared remarks that it's a very large market in the countries we've identified. And by the way, in that research was Brazil, was the U.K., was Australia. So we were already in those countries and showing results. So that $500 million revenue opportunity that we've identified, we think we have a good shot at getting a reasonable piece of that knowing we're a leader in kind of what we're doing in the U.S., and knowing that's emerging, and knowing the products we have, and the faster we can set up our shops in those emerging markets, the more market share we think we can gain over time. So we haven't said how much of that $500, but we just feel we have a shot of a reasonable piece of it. David Togut– Evercore Partners: I guess in other words, would you expect the global expansion to be significantly dilutive to earnings in 2014?

Mike Dubyak

Management

I think part of that will come down to our success obviously in signing it up, to stand the operations, to get the lease, to get the compliance funds in place, to get all those kind of base functionality that you need to start something new. That's obviously pretty dilutive. If you get some business to put against it, it clearly helps. I guess I wouldn’t go much further than that in terms of 2014.

Steve Elder

Management

I think what's encouraging for us is the pipeline we see in the markets we've already hit. So in Australia, not only Webjets, but we're seeing others in the pipeline that we feel very confident about. In the U.K. and even beyond the U.K., we're confident about what we're seeing develop. And in Brazil, for them to help us, you need to help us stand up our Virtual Card down there. We already see the beginnings of opportunities. So based on that, those are going to throw off returns in 2014 and beyond. The others, it just depends how fast we can ramp those. But we're very encouraged by the areas we've already addressed. And that's why we're encouraged about moving into some of these other areas that were also identified in the research. David Togut– Evercore Partners: I see, that's helpful. Just a quick final question, can you maybe lay out the competitive strengths and weaknesses of your combined position with Fleet One versus Comdata in the over the road market? In other words, what do you think you can do better than Comdata? Where do you think you need to improve?

Mike Dubyak

Management

I would say that primarily if you look at the products that which includes the convenience of location of the truck stops, so the coverage, we have the coverage. We have a competitive product. This program has been very down market focused. The average fleet size is three to four vehicles. We like that. They've been under the radar a little bit. Not to say others aren't competing there. But they've been very aggressive in going after that small end of the market. We will continue to be very aggressive going after that small end of the market. It doesn’t mean over time we won't look at larger fleets. We have mixed fleets. We've talked about those that have heavy trucks. They're big fleets. We service maybe their gasoline and their small truck program today. We have co-brand partners. So it doesn’t mean we won't get some larger fleets. But we're going to stay with the focus down market and they have a very competitive product. And I think we feel good about the opportunities. David Togut– Evercore Partners: So you think your offering combined with Fleet One is better than Comdata? Or is just positioned differently than Comdata in terms of target fleet size?

Mike Dubyak

Management

I can't say it's better. I would say it's competitive. I think it's just the matter that we are very focused on a piece of the market that as I said is a little bit under the radar. And again, it doesn’t mean other people don’t compete there. I'm not saying it's like wide open. It's not like the under penetrated local business when we talk about cash and general purpose cards even though small fleets use a card product today. So it is a penetrated market. It's just that they've been very successful with their go-to-market strategy and having a market that's competitive in the marketplace to win market share. David Togut– Evercore Partners: I see. Thanks for taking my questions.

Mike Dubyak

Management

You bet.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Phil Stiller with Citigroup. Phil Stiller – Citigroup: Hi, guys, thanks for taking my questions. Just following up on the geographic expansion of Virtual Card product, can you give us some rough timeframes in terms of how long it takes to get up operational in some of these new markets in terms of getting the compliance signing relationships and the ramping relationships?

Mike Dubyak

Management

The biggest hurdle there is government approvals in any particular country. And those are very difficult timelines to predict or adjust. So we are obviously – we have started a lot of those conversations in many countries already. But to handicap exactly how long that's going to take would be pretty difficult. Phil Stiller – Citigroup: Is it safe to assume that none of that is expected in 2013?

Mike Dubyak

Management

I would say that there's an outside chance that we get something towards the end of '13. But I wouldn’t count on it as a big driver. Phil Stiller – Citigroup: Can you start client discussions prior to that approval or does that have to wait as well?

Mike Dubyak

Management

We absolutely can start client discussions. I mean what we can do is what we're doing with Webjet. We're not issuing locally in Australia right now. We're issuing from a U.S. based product. And you pay the cross border fees on that. We can absolutely do that in a whole bunch of different geographies, anywhere in the world we want. But what we can't do is avoid those cross border fees that comes with those transactions. It's a much more compelling proposition for our customers to avoid those cross border fees.

Steve Elder

Management

And it wouldn’t make sense to not have the ability to go after the in-country OTAs if we don’t have the ability to issue in country. Phil Stiller – Citigroup: Okay, that makes sense. Shifting to the fleet business, I think you said [inaudible] processing transaction growth was 7% excluding Fleet One. Obviously, that was up a lot. I think you guys were up around 1% the last couple quarters. I was just wondering if you had some color on that increase whether that's sustainable or not.

Mike Dubyak

Management

Yeah, I mean I would say two things about that. I mean obviously, it was a great headline number for us and one that we're happy with. There was an extra business day in the fourth quarter of this year compared to last year. So that helped us out by a couple of percentage points. It was actually the reverse in Q3. We had one less business day in Q3 and that hurt us by a couple of points. But those things kind of even themselves out over the course of the year. And each transaction when you take out the impacts of Fleet One, each transaction was just a little bit lower, a little bit smaller than it had been in the prior year. So if you look at it, still a great number, still solid growth. But maybe not quite as strong as the number would imply in reality. Phil Stiller – Citigroup: So the 2013 guidance implies something I guess on a normalized basis in the mid-single digits. Is that fair for the fleet segment?

Steve Elder

Management

Yeah, that would be the implication. And Mike kind of said that in the prepared remarks. We expect '13 to be pretty similar to 2012 and organic growth rates in the low to mid-single digits.

Mike Dubyak

Management

But we're confident that Washington will get more confidence into the market by getting more certainty. Phil Stiller – Citigroup: That always helps.

Mike Dubyak

Management

If we could see that, that's why we said with better economic situations, I think we would start to see the growth in the same store sales that we haven't been able to see for a while. Phil Stiller – Citigroup: And what was the revenue contribution from Fleet One in the fourth quarter? And what do are you guys expecting in '13 in that?

Mike Dubyak

Management

When we announced the deal, we talked about $14, $15 million kind of run rate. I would say they were right in line with that. And our guidance for next year is right in line with that given that they're going to grow a little bit over time as well. They're actually in the first quarter out done exactly what we expected out of them. So it was a nice smooth entry if you will for Fleet One into our business. Phil Stiller – Citigroup: Great, thanks guys.

Operator

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Mike Grondahl with Piper Jaffray. Mike Grondahl – Piper Jaffray & Co.: Yeah, thanks guys for taking my questions. Can you just remind us, what is the amount that you believe you have in kind of total liquidity for future acquisitions? And how high would you take your leverage?

Mike Dubyak

Management

As of right now, we've got like I said before, just a little less than $100 million in cash sitting on the corporate balance sheets. So I know we've talked in the past about any kind of cash is typically been trapped at our bank subsidiary and not really available to us. Again, we've got about $100 million as a result of this recent bond offering. As of today where revolver is 100% available to us assuming we meet all the covenant compliance requirements, but that's $700 million that's completely available to us. In terms of where we would take it, I think we've been saying the same thing for many years. One and a half to two times EBITDA is the target. And for the right acquisition, we would probably bring it up in the range of three times. Mike Grondahl – Piper Jaffray & Co.: Great, okay, thank you.

Operator

Operator

And there are no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to our presenters for any closing remarks.