Welcome to the Wyndham Hotels & Resorts, Second Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants have been placed in a listen-only mode and the floor will be opened for your questions following the presentation. [Operator Instructions]. I would now like to turn the call over to Matt Capuzzi, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations.

Thank you, Keith. Good morning and thank you for joining us. With me today are Geoff Ballotti, our CEO; and Michele Allen, our CFO. Before we get started, I want to remind you that our remarks today will contain forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to risk factors that may cause our actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied. These risk factors are discussed in detail in our most recent annual report on Form 10-K filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission and any subsequent reports filed with the SEC. We will also be referring to a number of non-GAAP measures. Corresponding GAAP measures and a reconciliation of non-GAAP measures to GAAP metrics are provided in our earnings release, which is available on our Investor Relations website at investor.wyndhamhotels.com. To the extent that our non-GAAP measures discussed in future impact, we are unable to provide the comparable GAAP metric. In addition last evening, we posted an investor presentation containing supplemental information on our Investor Relations website. We may continue to provide supplemental information on our website in the future. Accordingly we encourage investors to monitor our website in addition to our press releases, filings submitted with the SEC and any public conference calls or webcasts. With that, I will turn the call over to Geoff.

Thanks, Matt. Good morning and thanks everyone for joining us. Our comments today will be focused on the impact that COVID-19 is having on our business and how we believe our actions are best positioning us to emerge from this pandemic as a stronger company. But first, I'd like to remind you why we believe we're uniquely positioned to outperform, not just during the crisis and the recovery, but also for the longer term. Our business is fueled by leisure travelers representing 70% of our bookings. Yet the other 30% coming from guests for whom travel is essential to their job is predictable and dependable. Our portfolio of hotels is not reliant on air travel, rather it's predominately drive-to with about 90% of our U.S. hotels located in suburban, interstate or small metro markets. With these destinations primarily appealing to domestic travelers, the vast majority of our portfolio is also not reliant on international travel. We lead the select-service space. 99% of our U.S. hotels are select-service and these hotels fare much better in turbulent times than in higher end chain scales. We have a proven track record of growing our unit base even during times of economic difficulty. We do this by focusing our efforts on conversion opportunities and by leveraging the significant breadth and depth of benefit we could provide to potential owners, in being associated with the world's largest hotel franchise system driven by a strong brand and strong value proposition. Finally, our business model is low risk. With over 95% of our hotels franchised, we have limited exposure to operating costs and capital requirements associated with owned assets. We require less than $50 million in annual CapEx spend and we have minimal to no exposure to incentive fees. Our revenue and cash flows are highly predictable…

Thanks Jeff. Good morning everyone. I'll begin my remarks today with a detailed review of our second quarter results. I'll then review our cash flows and balance sheet, as well as our best current view on certain operating statistics and financial metrics for 2020. In the most challenging quarter our industry has ever experienced, we generated $258 million of revenue and $63 million of adjusted EBITDA. This success was driven by our portfolio of brands that appeal to the mass demographic and by an incredibly flexible cost structure. We were able to reduce our cost and capital spending in the quarter by $101 million and we used these funds to support our franchisees through fee waivers and deferrals, helping them preserve cash during this critical time. Comparable RevPAR which is in constant currency and excludes hotels temporarily closed due to COVID-19 declined 54% on a global basis in the second quarter, including declines to 51% in the U.S. and 65% internationally. A little more than two-thirds of the decline in the U.S. was due to occupancy. We were encouraged by the trends we saw through the second quarter where occupancy for our select-service hotels improve sequentially each month from a low of 26% in April to absolute levels of over 45% in June, and continue to push forward to nearly 60% in July as Jeff mentioned. From a pricing perspective, less than one-third of our domestic RevPAR decline was due to rate. Furthermore, since the trough in mid-April, ADR for our economy and midscale brands has increased 15% on average during the week days and 32% on average during the weekends. Importantly, the current price differential between economy and mid-scale hotels is roughly $20 and the price differential between midscale and upscale hotels is roughly $30, both significant enough gaps…

[Operator Instructions]. We'll take our first question from Joe Greff with JPMorgan. Please go ahead.

Good morning everybody and thanks for all this information. Jeff, can you talk about – and Michele, can you talk about what you're anticipating in the second half for working capital drags related to third party hotel owners, continuing to defer payment of franchise fees. I know you talked about maybe the ability to pay from here. Here’s how I think and I’m guessing that if 70% of U.S. franchisees are at or above 40% occupancy now in July and obviously higher than at different points into 2Q, their ability to pay franchise fees is also higher. So my question is this, should there be less of a quarterly run rate drag into 3Q and similarly something into 4Q that's less than at 3Q or conversely is there this anticipated lag and if so, what is that?

Hi Joe, thanks for the question. We we're expecting considerably higher collections in the third quarter than in the second. Exactly how much probably depends on how travel demand recovers. I would say yes, we do believe with the majority of our portfolio now above breakeven levels that they have the ability to pay. I think – I do think you know some franchisees are a little concerned about what the fourth quarter holds and so we're going to remain flexible and continue to monitor the situation to make sure that we're providing as much support as we can to ensure their success through the pandemic.

Okay, yeah I’ll follow-up with you later. Okay and then, one question on conversions. Obviously the most recent month had a higher level of conversions and maybe some of that is related to the prior two months which had a lower amount of activity. I mean do you look at the conversion level that you've seen more recently as sort of a good run rate here or what are you seeing in terms of the conversion activity and what's anticipated in your comment about not seeing any net room throughout this year, but what’s the gross amount of conversions that we should expect?

Sure. It was definitely Joe a really positive momentum throughout the quarter. The 5,700 opens, you know roughly 2,000 of those were conversion and if I just look at the way it picked up, in terms of our opens domestically we had 100 in April, 400 in May and 2,000 we mentioned in June. 85% of those were conversion rooms and so many of them opened in the same quarter. I mean we were able to open over a dozen hotels in the quarter that were picked up in the quarter in brands like Days Inn and Super 8 and Baymont and Travel Lodge and Trademark. So it was encouraging domestically and it was also encouraging to see the pick-up internationally. We had great same quarter selling opens and so many of those were conversions. I mean we went similarly from a couple of 100 to 1,000 to 2,500 in June. So our teams are back up there domestically and internationally. They are traveling again and we think we have a big conversion opportunity ahead.

Thank you, and I have one quick follow-up. I know I’m asking a lot here. Given your comments that you know the dilution mix generally in the 4Q is indistinguishable from that mix percentage in to 2Q to 3Q, all things being equal, would you expect the lack of an occupancy retrenchment as we shift from 3Q into 4Q, all things being equal and kind of all things being equal is sort of a question mark?

I think all things being equal means that we typically would see some retrenchment in the fourth quarter coming off of the second and third quarter in leisure and leisure demand, right. So I don't expect from a seasonality perspective to see anything different from that this year. So we will see, my guess is occupancy, the occupancy levels decline in the fourth quarter compared to the summer travel season. However, our ability to capture that leisure demand does not change, right. So as we’re much more leisure focused, and that's just kind of the way we always do business, whatever demand is out there, we do feel like we're going to be able to capture that just as effectively or more effectively than we had in the past years.

Thank you very much guys.

Thanks Joe.

Thanks Joe.

Our next question is from David Katz with Jefferies. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning everyone and thank you for all the details. I wanted to ask about the room deletions that you discussed and are you know in the investor deck. Assuming that the world, right, and the market remains stable and starts to improve, do you have an expectation that beyond what we've laid out today there'll be more meaningful dilutions and by meaningful I would say you know beyond kind of a normal bottom run that burns off, because that you know we're used to seeing across the industry over a number of years.

Hi David.

Hi!

Hi! I would say, this is everything we know at the present time. Of course we're going to have some franchisees that struggle through COVID and what comes next for them remains to be seen, but for good operators with a history of brand engagement, we're going to use every tool we have available to them – that we have available to us to help them avoid failure. So at this point everything that we have in the system has been – that we know of has been identified.

And if I may follow-up quickly and apologies if it's in here somewhere and I missed it, but how many La Quinta’s did you add to that brand in the quarter, and if you could just talk about the prospects for your growing those units.

Sure. La Quinta, David we've been very pleased with the growth of La Quinta. On the franchise side the system grew 4%. 2019 it grew – it's grown 2% year-to-date and quarter-on-quarter we added five hotels, so it was up 1% sequentially. Look, we've executed 85 new deals since acquisition and the retention rate remains strong. It's slightly over 98% since we acquired the brand and the prospects really hinge on our team's ability to sell what's just performing so well for this brand right now. It is the strongest performing brand in our line up. The RevPAR index has grown to 107%, both year-over-year and on a two year stack basis and it is a brand that is really out performing. It's also our highest occupancy brand right now. I mean it has been – for our entire system Michele talked about to Joe's question, looking ahead which is tough to forecast, but it has been 15 consecutive weeks where occupancy week-on-week has improved and there's no brand where it has improved stronger or faster or higher than La Quinta. La Quinta ran 65% occupancy this Saturday night and that was up for from the prior Saturday night as it's been for 15 consecutive weeks. So our franchise sales team feel very good about it on both the new construction and the conversion standpoint. I think what is also becoming apparent is that it is a brand that our teams are excited about growing internationally. We have added eight executed deals, four under construction in the Dominican Republic. We opened a hotel in Istanbul, Turkey and we had an opportunity to find two more conversion opportunities and convert those brands to La Quinta. We talked about that in the script, both in Bodrum and on the Black Sea and we've executed two in New Zealand and just signed one in China. So we’re very bullish on La Quinta moving forward.

Got it. Thanks very much.

Our next question is from Stephen Grambling with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead.

Thanks for letting me. This is a bit of a follow-up to Joe’s second question and the last questions, but I'll also tie in development I guess. So how were the conversations with independence and developers changing as we assess their availability of capital and any need for you to provide support in the form of additional key money or loans, and are you seeing any major differences and as it relates to you know that support by region?

Yeah, no real differences you know as we've talked about before and we joke, Michele squeezes key money out with an eye dropper and we're not certainly seeing any need to do anything more than we've done in the past. I think as we've talked about Stephen, in the conversion market there is a significantly lower need to use our balance sheet, but the conversion opportunity for us is as you say and we’ve talked about important and it’s a big opportunity for us domestically and we think it's an even bigger opportunity internationally. When you look at the addressable market that Smith Travel tracks in the United States with roughly 15,000 rooms that are tracked that we're targeting and recall that over two times the independents right now are closed today versus economy or mid-scale branded hotels. And then you look at the international opportunity which is even larger and less branded. We don't anticipate the need to use our balance sheet anymore going forward than we have in the past.

And I would just add to that, you know we have earmarked some rescue capital in our plan and so we're happy to put it to work where it makes sense. Of course we would do that on a select basis and only where it would generate stronger allies for us and for our franchisees. We do see now that financing is a little tighter. You know the key money could become a more important element of a deal going forward, where capital stack needs to be filled. So we’re watching it closely and seeing where and how we can put that rescue capital to work, but as of right now we're not seeing a ton of those opportunities beyond what we would typically see, but we are hopeful that it'll come our way.

As a very quick follow-up and maybe I missed this in the opening remarks, but I guess what percentage of the rooms in the pipeline had secured financing in place and what would be considered already under construction.

Sure. We've got 180,000 rooms in the pipeline and under construction as we pointed out, I think it's on slide seven of the deck, 46,000 are under construction. Those rooms obviously have financing in place and your question on the new construction rooms that are in the pipeline as we've gone through it, we estimate that approximately 55% of those rooms that are not yet in the ground have financing in place.

Super helpful. Thanks so much.

Thanks Steve.

Our next question is from Anthony Powell with Barclays. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. So another question of conversions. Are hotel owners kind of willing and able to convert right now or I mean – there wasn't an increase in June. Do you expect conversions to continue to increase this year or you even think the larger of it would be in 2021 as hotel owners have found a better view on kind of medium term fundamentals.

Yeah, great question Anthony. We do think it will continue to increase and we think the bigger opportunity is later this year or next year. So many independents right now are just trying to deal with their banks and with forbearance, and when they come up to that deadline, whether it's later this year or whether it's next year in Q1 or Q2, banks are going to be looking for a plan. They're going to be looking for a reason that they should continue to work with that independent owner, and we want to be part of that plan. We want to be part of that plan because the independent owners is going to be able to show its bank that our brand delivers a RevPAR premium that delivers dramatically lower distribution costs and significant operating cost savings from procurement, from FF&E, from OS&E, from F&B, from technology, from the labor related to both of those and when you combine that with what our marketing program Wyndham Rewards drives right now, we continue to see an increasing share of occupancy. We’re up and we’ve just been very pleased to see that direction of occupancy coming up. What that does to that overall cost structure, lowering the amount of rooms they are getting through an OTA at a much lower contribution. We think our value proposition and pitch becomes a lot more compelling later this year and into the first and second quarter of next year. But we were pleased with how much pick up we saw in June, both domestically and internationally versus what we had in April and May.

Thanks, and on another topic, would you consider another formal, a fee deferral program. In the winter if you obviously got to kind of take it down as leisure demand kind of seasonally is kind of – it’s a bit lower and you know pulling [ph] them up.

We're not prepared to speculate on what relief measures we may or may not provide moving into the fall and winter season. At this point in time we want to wait and see how the summer months perform and you know what the outlook holds for the broader industry as a whole.

Okay, thank you.

Thanks Anthony.

Thank you.

Our next question is from Patrick Scholes with SunTrust. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning Jeff and Michele.

Good morning, Patrick.

Alright, it looks like you had a pretty size – what I would call seismic shift in market share gains for common and mid-scale brands. I'm looking over the other color, a little bit, some color from you folks as to what you think is you know behind that. Thank you.

Sure. There is so much that we're proud of that we've been able to attract and capture this quarter in terms of share gains from business travelers that have been out there, having to travel for work and that was really in those early months what – I mean our share gain had never been stronger. I mean we just had all of those essential everyday Business As Usual travelers that you know are not are per se white collar travelers, but you know are out there because they have to be. But you know – and we've been certainly picking up a lot of alternative use room nights. We've had great success. Our team has had great success on university lodging. We picked up and filled hotels in Pittsburgh and Houston and New Jersey and most recently a La Quinta in Colorado Springs with universities that are looking to move in. But as leisure travel picked up, what's really been driving that pick up is that drive to business and it's what's driving bookings now. We've seen tremendous improvement in our direct, mobile and call volume leisure bookings, drive-to bookings. Our mobile business which was down – you know when we were filled with those essential workers down 80% is now down you know less than 30% and it's improved every consecutive week, and our direct voice booking channels continues to improve as well. Our call center conversion bookings are back up to almost pre-COVID levels. The booking windows are expanding. Sunday night has become our busiest period. We're staffing back to book getaways for those looking to get away on a drive to vacation and what's most encouraging Patrick is that our ADR has been really holding steady. We’ve been actually seeing our ADR continue to tick up as our occupancy has continued to tick up now for 15 consecutive weeks, and it's been doing so every week, week-on-week across the country, because of that drive-to leisure travel that's looking to get away.

Okay. Alright, thank you. Jeff another question here, shifting topics, and correct me if I'm wrong here. I believe that both Marriott and Hyatt have instituted requirements that all guests wear masks. I don't believe that you folks have done that or have done that yet. Can you tell us your rationale at this point for allowing or not allowing masks, making it mandatory. Yeah, thank you.

No, thanks for the question Patrick. It is by far and away the most important thing that all of us in the industry do and it was the American Hotel and Lodging Association. Chip Rogers and his team with all of the industry on a call a few weeks ago that held hands and reached the consensus and decision that as part of safe stay mandatory mask wearing would be a requirement across this nation. I think it was – well, it was all of us agreed that no one branch should own safety and we've all been contributing team members to stay safe. We’ve all been working through our franchise advisory councils and yes, we're announcing this, this morning. If it hasn't gone out already that you know after working through our franchise advisory councils and our leaders who speak on behalf of the general managers and the small business owners, who manage these hotels that it is indeed a requirement in all of our hotels as well.

Required for guess going forward, right.

Yep, absolutely.

Okay, congratulations that’s an excellent move in my opinion. Thank you.

Thank you.

We’ll go next to Dan Wasiolek with Morningstar. Please go ahead.

Just first a question on the pipeline activity. I think you called out financing hurdles and travel restrictions kind of hindering that in the quarter. Just wondering if you can maybe give some details out, which of those two had a greater impact? And then on the travel restrictions, I know you mentioned that that had improved in June versus April and May. Just wondering if there's any kind of then diversion in July in travel restrictions hindering your ability given some state-to-state quarantine restrictions.

Yeah, we have not seen it yet. We continue to be encouraged by what we're seeing out there from our franchise sales teams domestically and internationally. I'd say the best call though, Michele and I get to get on is Friday afternoons with all our franchise sales people. Obviously there’s some requirements in terms of where they can and can't drive, but we have not felt any significant slowdown I think. Moving forward we feel good about our prospects and the first part of your question.

Yeah, just between the two, I guess drivers called out on a pipeline activity, on the financing hurdles, the higher financing hurdles and the travel restrictions earlier in the quarter. You know which of those had a greater impact. I guess it's you know partly answered in your first response that travel restrictions had become less of a hindrance, so.

Absolutely.

Okay.

I would say the travel restrictions at the front of the quarter really did have an impact on the ability to build the pipeline and then the increased hurdle rates, it’s probably a little less.

Okay, great. And then if I could just has one question, kind of from a longer term perspective. I know you guys have called out some permanent savings opportunity. And just as we get to kind of a more normal travel demand environment post COVID, how do you guys view the potential for overall operating margin, EBITDA margins. Are those going to be able to you know get back to you pre-COVID levels, maybe even be stronger with kind of the cost initiatives you have in place and you know if you can kind of I guess include cost reimbursements in that viewpoint, that would be helpful? Thanks.

Yeah sure. We are expecting in a post-COVID world we would drive higher operating margins, because we are driving, at least $40 million of incremental EBITDA through some of the more permanent changes we made to the cost infrastructure. And then on the – what was the second part of the question?

Hold on a minute. Yes, no, it was just – I guess including you know the cost reimbursement.

Yes, yes.

Question there is you know moving forward longer term, do you guys think that I guess cost reimbursements, those go up kind of overall or do they go down because of your ability to utilize the initiatives like By Wyndham and have lower marketing costs you know that way. Just kind of thoughts I guess long term how to think about cost reimbursement revenue and expenses.

So cost reimbursement revenue and expenses on our P&L are related to our Managed Business and they are predominantly payroll costs that are funded by the hotel owners, but GAAP requires us to gross it up on our P&L. I think what you are referring to are the marketing revenues and marketing expenses, and as we look at those in 2020, we are expecting it EBITDA drag related to what we refer to as our marketing funds, which is, how the revenues and expenses kind of match each other or in the case of 2020 won’t match each other. Typically we will offset our revenue declines in the marketing funds with the one for one reduction in expenses. We are not doing that in 2020 because the revenue, the clients are so severe and we wanted to keep some marketing spend as well as the GSO teams and other teams that are directly supporting the franchisees through the crisis and through the recovery. So we won't have a one for one decline and we are expecting in 2020 that the marketing funds will drag EBITDA by about a point and a half for every point – $1.5 million for every point of RevPAR I should say. Moving forward in 2021, we expect that our marketing funds would again begin to become break even with one exception. We will be in a position where we can recapture some of the 2020 overspent over time, and we will figure out how to phase that in as we move through our budgeting and strategic planning process.

Okay, understood. Very helpful, thanks for the clarity.

Our next question is from Dany Asad with Bank of America. Please go ahead.

Hey, good morning everybody. My question is just on franchisee support. So can you give us a sense for the mix of domestic versus international franchisees that have needed assistance so far?

Yeah, we…

Go ahead Michele.

No, no, no, please Jeff.

No go.

Okay, we have about 65% through the end of the second quarter, which is already decreased to 60% globally that have needed some assistance. We are seeing higher take rates on the deferral program internationally than in the U.S., especially for EMEA and in China where we had complete shut downs for a bunch of our hotels.

Got it. And then just from my follow up. So for like the 30%, 40% of collections and then billings, how did that trend, like for the peak months of April and May and what's your best guess for what that could be in July for June and maybe through third quarter, if you happen to have some sense of that.

I would say, I was actually pleasantly surprised to see the collection rates so high in the month of April, given how there was so much uncertainty with respect to the summer travel season. So it’s improved as we move through the quarter and as franchisees have been more positive operating cash flow in the months of June and I would say even July. I don't want to speculate about how much of – how much we're going to collect in the third quarter, because it really is – there are really a lot of assumptions that would, we would have to make to provide you with any type of range.

Yeah, got it, okay. And then one more and this is more of a clarification, but when we talk about you know your franchisees making positive cash flow in June and July does that mean they're making debt service payments or is it just like before debt?

Yes, so we’re saying positive operating cash flow. So on an operating basis before debt service, we feel very confident that they would be positive cash flow. The debt service question really depends on how they're capitalized. For the majority of our franchisees that are reasonably capitalized at like a 70% or lower LTV, at 40% occupancy they should be able to cover off debt service. If they're higher than 70% levered then they will have a harder time covering up the debt service and will require higher occupancy to be able to do that.

Understood. Okay, thank you so much.

Thank you.

The next question is from Michael Bellisario with Baird. Please go ahead.

Good morning everyone.

Good morning, Mike.

Just another clarification question on the fee deferrals. Maybe help us better understand the timing of everything. Pardon me if I’m wrong; March, April, May payments were deferred, but you are saying only 40% plus or minus has been collected through I think July 24. Does that mean the June payments that are not being paid in July, are those not subject to a deferral program or how should we think about what's been paid, what’s not being paid relative to the three months that you actually deferred.

Yes, the three months that we deferred, you're right, March, April, May are not due until September 1. What we have seen is that 40% of those have been paid prior to the September 1 due date. With respect to June billings, we haven’t provided any detail around those collections, because they – June performance was only billed in July and so they're actually not technically due until August 10.

Got it, that's helpful. And then just one more quick clarification question; I think the comparable RevPAR figure includes closed hotels. What would that negative-54 comparable figure be if you included all closed hotels for the period?

Well, that would have been the reported number, which I believe was minus-61%.

Thank you.

You're welcome, and you can find that on – I think we have some – a supplemental schedule posted to our website that gives the comparable and reported RevPARs for each of the regions.

And our next question is from Jared Shojaian with Wolfe Research. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning everyone. Thanks for taking my question. So in terms of your comments on units being down this year, I apologize if I missed this, but if you neutralize for removing all the non-compliant rooms that you did in the second quarter, and you talked about in the second half, would you be expecting unit growth to be positive this year after neutralizing for that or no?

Hi Jared, I think if we were to neutralize for the deletions in the second quarter for the 9,000 rooms in China and as well as the incremental rooms we are going to take out in the third and fourth quarter, yes, I do think we would have expected to see positive net room growth for the full year.

Okay, thank you, that's helpful. And then it looks like you've been showing pretty consistent improvement in weekly RevPAR until the most recent week, which took a step back. Any color you can share there? I realize there’s week-to-week noise. I don't want to be too near term focused, but I think in this environment right now, which is so fluid, I think it's important. So any color you can share their.

Sure. We actually – it's been 15 consecutive weeks Jared. This past week that just reported the week of July 25, was our 15th consecutive week of occupancy up and rate coming down just a little bit. It certainly has slowed somewhat this past week, 35 states were reporting occupancy up, 15 down slightly and I know there’s a lot of focus right now on Texas, on Florida, and even in those two markets which are big markets for us, both went backwards. They were one of 15 states that were down slightly by less than 100 basis points I think. Texas dropped from 49 to 48.5, Florida dropped from 45 to I think something like, somewhere in the 44s and it was remarkable for us to see Californian improve. California actually another important state for us saw its 15th consecutive week. It was one of the 35 States that were up, remarkably grown from 56% to 57%. What’s driving the growth in our consecutive week on week occupancy, our highest occupancy levels are in those real, great outdoor road trip states that are so important to us, where people just you know have to design the confidence to get out. Idaho and Colorado are running at 68%; South Dakota and Montana are running 67%; Michigan we talked about in the script up consistently at 65% now and we're seeing really a steady and fast growth, the fastest growing states right now are in the North East. Maine jumped from 31% to 36%, Mass from 40% to 45%, Rhode Island from 50% to 55% last week and Vermont from 52% to 56%. So when you roll all that up and look at where people want to go and want to drive to, it has been occupancy wise week on week 15 consecutive weeks up.

Okay, thanks Jeff. And just a follow-up on that, real quickly. So in slide, July 18 you have RevPAR down 39%. It sounds like you have the new week for July 25. You know what that comparable RevPAR number is if you're down 39, July 18 and again I apologize for being so near term focus, but again…

No, no, no and I'm looking at overall occupancy levels and obviously coming out of the July 4 holiday, we did see both Memorial Day and July 4 the weekends drop, which we generally week-on-week and it goes back to what we're comparing it to in prior week in occupancy. Michele I don't have the RevPAR down week-on-week. I'm looking at here on Zoom, but the occupancy week for July 25, if you look to the right side of that chart on slide five, it was up from 50 to 51. Do you know what the RevPAR was?

I'm actually looking, yeah.

I think it’s flat at 39% down to prior year, occupancy up to my prior comments for the 15th consecutive week to 51.

Okay, and sorry just one more quick one. Any reason why the rate is falling off a little. Is that just some year-over-year noise or anything specific or franchisees choosing to lower rates a little bit right now? What would you say is driving that?

We are not seeing that Jared. We are seeing it – what might be, what is causing it? Certainly we do have some full service Urban Hotels that are seeing rate drop in the economy and in the midscale segment our rates have been remarkably resilient and has been improving on the weekends a little bit for us.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Yeah, occupancy up – occupancy, excuse me, was up about 10 basis points week-over-week for the week ending July 25 and we're seeing just slight week-over-week improvement in RevPAR about up a point still. We are seeing as Jeff mentioned, some softness in Florida and Texas, but that's being offset by week-over-week improvement in California, Georgia and a majority of our other top 15 states such as Virginia and Pennsylvania.

Okay. Thank you very much.

Next question is from Alton Stump with Longbow Research. Please go ahead.

Great, thank you and good morning everybody. Thanks for taking the question. I think most of my questions has been asked. I was just going to ask, you know from a consumer standpoint there is obviously not lot of people that are hopping on planes this summer. So I presume if they are going on vacation that they are hopping in the cars for road trips, which obviously fits very well in your model. Are seen evidence of that, that you know what had been you know trips in the past that where you know on plane are now being done via cars and therefore you know potentially helping to drive higher demand for average hotel stays.

Sure, thanks Alton. We read every, every consumer survey and consumer intent, data point that's out there, whether it's a Focus Wire or Saber. The most recent I saw yesterday which I think is a good one is from MMGY. They have been serving consumers across the country and they just released – I think it was this week, it was either yesterday or the day before, I can't remember when I saw it. They weigh at six, I believe it was, and what they point out is that it continues to be over 50% of consumers in the United States are as likely if not more likely to travel they are saying this fall. And over 60%, I believe the figure was, was expected to take a leisure trip in the next six months. But for us and in our model, what is so important for us and was great to see is that over 70% continue to be twice as likely to travel by car and they want to use their own cars, their own personal car. And another interesting thing that has been surveyed and reported and that we are certainly hearing and seeing from our marketing team is that more consumers are willing to drive further distances. A third are willing to drive according to MMGY over 300 miles and a fifth now are willing to drive over 500 miles. So our advantages is that every day traveller that wants to get out and vacation and there's plenty of other surveys out there that are saying that what people most want and what they're most looking for are recognized in trusted brands where they know that that brand has a cleanliness and cleaning protocol in place where you know if it's a roadside or a suburban, or interstate hotel they could feel safe in.

Thanks for the color Jeff. That’s all I got. I’ll hope back in the queue.

Thanks Alton.

We’ll go next to Robert Mollins with Gordon Haskett. Please go ahead.

Hi, good morning. Jeff, can you share what you're seeing in terms of booking windows? Are consumers beginning to book hotel stays while on the road or are the majority of the bookings being made for near term stays?

Yeah, a great question. It was early on really day-off and we are certainly seeing consumer start to plan. You know my comment earlier, of Sunday suddenly becoming our busiest night in the call center is exactly that. So it was you know nearly 100% of bookings for same day, next day back in April is reduced significantly. It's probably 60% now and continues – that booking window continues to lengthen.

And then, you also mentioned that you're working with some universities. How big of an opportunity is that and do you have any thoughts around guests being unwilling to stay at a hotel that’s housing college students?

The great thing in so many of these buyouts is that they're in and for their entirety. I mean, the last one I mentioned, the U.S. Air Force is an example that just recently booked the La Quinta Colorado Springs North for both the fall and the spring semesters. They've booked it in its totality; it was a $2 million booking. The university of Pittsburgh which booked the Wyndham Downtown in Pittsburgh and they've booked it in its entirety. I've seen very few and with that we got numerous other opportunities either in the works or that we're about to sign that I won't mention on this call. But I’ve seen very few where it is a piece of the hotel and it's been more the hotel in its entirety.

Great! And then just one more from Michele, in terms of cost savings, what gives you confidence they will need to bring back some of those 440 positions that have impacted as demand recovers in 2021 and beyond.

Yeah, it's a great question and it's something that we're always looking at. In reality we did leave a little bit of cushion, because we know we wouldn’t have gotten it 100% right. So there will be a few positions that we do need to bring back, but we have, we believe that we reflected that in the $255 million number we provided.

Great, thank you very much.

Thank you.

It appears we have no further questions. I'll return the floor to Geoff Ballotti for closing remarks.

Okay, thanks operator, and thanks everybody for your interest in Wyndham Hotels & Resorts. We can't tell you how much we appreciate it. Michele, Matt and I look forward to speaking with many of you in the weeks to come, but more importantly, hopefully meeting with you face-to-face in the not too distant future. I would like to remind any of you golf fans to please tune into the Wyndham Championship from August 13 through August 16, which will be airing on both the Golf channel and on CBS, where if you have not seen our new advertising yet, you'll certainly see it there. Enjoy the rest of your summer. Take care and most importantly, thanks again everybody for dialing in today.

And this does conclude today's Wyndham Hotels & Resorts second quarter 2020 earnings conference call. Please disconnect your lines at this time. Have a wonderful day!